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VK2TV > WINPAC 23.06.09 12:02l 130 Lines 5406 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
BID : FE0012VK2TV
Read: GUEST
Subj: Re: Missing text
Path: IZ3LSV<IK6ZDE<IK6IHL<IW0GPS<ED1ZAC<VE2RXY<VK7AX<WA7V<KD4YAL<VK2TV
Sent: 090623/0941Z @:VK2TV.#MNC.NSW.AUS.OC #:642 [Kempsey, QF68JX] $:FE0012VK2T
From: VK2TV@VK2TV.#MNC.NSW.AUS.OC
To : WINPAC@WW
VK6BE wrote:-
> From : VK6BE
> To : WINPAC@WW
> Type/status : B$
> Date/time : 23-Jun 17:32
> BID (MID) : 230013VK6BE
> Message # : 639
> Title : Missing text
>
> Path: !GB7LDI!ZL2BAU!GB7YKS!VK2DOT!VK6ZRT!
>
> From: VK6BE@VK6ZRT.#BUN.#WA.AUS.OC
> To : WINPAC@WW
>
>
> Well I thought that changing BBSs had cured the unusual problem I had here
> with Winpack but it was not to be. With the new BBS I still have the same
> problem. Just to elucidate:
>
> (1) Winpack works perfectly until the sysop sends a message. Bulletins
> from other operators come down all right in their entirety, and I can send
> replies with no difficulty.
>
> (2) I can originate and send bulletins and messages with no problem.
>
> (3) PNL messages come and go with no problem.
>
> (4) As soon as the sysop sends a message a problem shows up quite
> consistently.
> (a) If it is a short message it downloads with header and route but no
> text.
> (b) If it is longer than a few lines the missing text appears in
> succeeding bulletins by other operators and their messages are garbled.
> (c) So far as I can tell only the sysop's bulletins cause the problem.
>
> (5) This has been going on with increasing frequency since about June
> 2008. It has never shown up prior to that.I have used WInpack with no
> problems for at least 12 years.
>
> (6) I have had the same computer for about four years and all other
> programs and software behave normally.My laptop also has a problem with a
> slight variation. Forget the laptop.The difficulty there could be
> unrelated.
>
> (7) I have used downloads of the latest version of WInpack - no effect.
>
> (8) Dave VK2AWZ sent me his version of WInpack which I installed making
> only the necessary changes for my callsign and password etc. No
> difference. Text missing in sysop's messages.Using Dave's details (with
> his approval) I could access the BBS with no problem. However in hind
> sight I am not sure that this was not a red herring as I can't remember
> whether the sysop sent a message at that time. If he did not then my own
> callsign and password would probably have worked OK.Forget that one; it
> could be a red herring.
>
> (9) I have had many suggestions, none of which made the slightest
> difference.
>
> (10) Clearly the BBSs are cleared of blame as it has happened consistently
> with two different BBSs on opposite sides of the country.
>
> (11) I noticed with both BBSs I have used recently that some messages
> were downloading automatically in their entirety (no missing text) onto
> the screen when I booted up. I could read the entire message from the
> sysops. I believe that the titles were listed in the selection list
> editor, automatic download.. When I downloaded them in the usual way the
> text was missing.
>
> Some of the advice sent to me suggested that I am a newcomer to the
> mysterious world of packet radio and computers. Forget that fellers
> Nothing could be further from the truth.
>
> As far as packet radio is concerned I graduated from Digicom when packet
> first started up on a C64 to Paket up to version 6, then to TPK and on to
> early Winpack, through to version 6 Winpack.I introduced computers into my
> school, teaching word processing to classes of 10 to 12 years olds more
> than 20 years ago. My first computer was a Dick Smith kit with 1kB memory.
> Forget it! I have been with computers for many years and in amateur radio
> for 54 years. I know what I am doing but this one has me completely
> bamboozled. Nor have I found anyone who can explain the phenomenon.If you
> think I have lost it as was suggested by one person, well you explain
> the problem!!!
>
> BTW thank you to those who have helped with advice. Your input was really
> appreciated. However the war is not yet over.
>
> Anyone with ideas?
> Cheers,
> Bob VK6BE.
Well, well, well.
The biggest problem Bob is that you already know everything. You just said
so, "I know what I am doing". You are not prepared to accept that you may
not have the answers.
Despite being asked numerous times to supply your Winpack configuration
you maintained there was nothing wrong with it.
Despite being told there may be a problem with your computer, you
maintained there was nothing wrong with it.
You repeatedly told me, and others, you had done everything possible to
resolve the problem.
You did everything except what you were asked to do - suppy your configs.
I wished you well with your new sysop after you refused to help the people
you asked for help. I'd had enough of you.
I tried to methodically work through resolution of your problem but you
went off at a tangent and did things that were quite unhelpful towards my
efforts. I even admitted the problem may have been here at my BBS but by
going off in your own "I know what I am doing" way you showed that you
weren't interested in the efforts of those who were trying to help you -
those people who may actually know more than you.
Aren't you the same person who knows more about the LPG suppy situation
4000km away from where you live than somebody who actually lives here?
Bob, I never thought that after 40 years of being licenced I'd say this to
a fellow amateur operator, but you have what you deserve as a result of
your own words, actions and attitudes.
Ray vk2tv
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