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Hi Rodge and all
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:06:00 +0000, g0cjm%gb7imk.#43.gbr.eu@gb7cip.ampr.org
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> Subject: Re: UI-View 32
> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:06:00 +0000
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> From: G0CJM@GB7IMK.#43.GBR.EU
> To : UIV32@EU
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>> I've dabbled a few times with APRS and UIVIEW but never been very
>> impressed with the message carrying capability but I'm willing
>> to give it another go and give you a call.
> Delighted, my comms r on 24/7 G0CJM or G6XCJ.
>> I have UIVIEW ready to go but could Rodge G0CJM give us a list of the
>> esential parameters and the reason for their settings as this seems
>> to be an area where there is little solid information.
> For me UIV32 is downloaded onto my laptops from the INET and opened BUT
> they have to be registered first so they can be legally used. Roger
> G4IDE(SK) asked only that a donation be made to his Cancer fund, donate
> what you will then you will receive numbers which you enter into the
> registration. Its not simple, its damned hard but eventually you will get
> there. At this mo in time i use KISS in my laptops TNC no radio
> connections at all.
>> I will put on a fixed station on 144.800 Hhz so details how PATH and
>> digipeater and beaconing parameters should be set to get the system
>> working efficiently would be very useful for many people.
> I am in the sticks in Scarboro. There are no other packet stations
> LOS(Line-of-sight) so i have to rely on the teachings of the master Bob
> Bruniga WB4APR see www.ariss.net
>
> Being so isolated ALL my radio signals go direct to ARISS on path:CQ V
> ARISS,myqra,mycall*: NO it doesnt make any sense to me either but on air i
> understand that as the sat comes over the horizon once every 45 minutes
> for a window of 10 minutes in that ten minutes i can digi off the ISS to
> anywhere in the world-magic.
>
> On INET the same thing happens via the *pipe* to Goonhilly...>>>>
>
> My radio is a TS-2000 set at 5w on 145.825Mhz Simplex (Station setup).
>
> My mobiles are TT3+Combo using handy set such as DJ-596 or VX-7R both on
> 5w BUT qrq is 144.800 Bench tests show the path APU25N,TRACE7-6 is
> converted by radio to g6xxx>apt311,abcdef,qAo,g0xxx ???? Dont ask me i
> dont know why or how this is done but it is and your signal of 5w gets
> into the most remote of places. But essentially the TT3+ is a tracking
> device wired up to a GPS which you can stick to your dash with velcro,
> this radio is NEVER used by me for anything but tx of packet info. The
> aerial is mounted on the roof and bingo you are set to go...please reread!
>
> YES you will be seen wherever you go. Xastir used on Kubuntu gives a snail
> trail of exactly where you go, your speed, your direction, your elevation.
> It is brilliant. BUT, for me the brilliance is not just in the accuracy of
> location in Lat/Lon/QRA but in the fact that you can communicate on a
> second handy voice with any nearby stations which open your CTCSS. For
> privacy my CTCSS is set at ??? Should you be anywhere near me like ships
> in the night i will be alerted if you open my CTCSS and can pull over and
> have a chat VHF.
>
> Digipeating will only happen on KISS setting.
>
> Voice:This can be activated by following the directions of MSAGENT.exe
>
> You want to wake a mate so you enter on the Msg page To:g6XXX Port:I Msg:
> %Wakey wakey! Magic. There is so many clever devices built into UIV32
> 24hrs every day my UIV32 is talking all stations that have just beaconed
> so i could be the far side of the shack and suddenly hear SOS SOS SOS and
> all my attn goes to responding instantly, or it could just be a mate
> saying Hi Rodge, are you well?
>
> Have i missed owt?
I looked out my old PC with its registered copy of UIVIEW32 running 10 watts
to a 1/4 wave at 30ft but as you may know by now using my old class B call
G8DTQ from Caterham Surrey. I cant say it was a great success as far as
communicating with ANYBODY but more of that later.
Thanks for the info Rodge I have tried calling you today but to say
it was hard going is an understatement. I'm still not clear when I call
you, are you ONLY available to chat when ISS is overhead or are you
connected direct to the internet? I have noted what you have said about
parameter settings but I suspect using TRACE7-6 may cause too much
traffic so I have limited my path to the European guide lines for a fixed
station of APRS,TRACE3-3 and have restricted the beacon to hourly as I'm
unlikely to move very far.
As previous excursions onto 144.800 have shown the frequency here has
packets audible on it around 80/90% of the time and I'm sceptical about
being able to use it for any sensible communication via an unconnected
network. Radio conditions today were well above average so here is a list of
stations heard direct compiled from UIVIEW's lists
2008-February-18 16:15 19 stations
----------------------------------
Callsign Type Latitude Longitude Miles Bearing Last Heard
-------- ---- -------- --------- ----- ------- ----------
+G8DTQ Home 51.16.93N 000.05.66W 0.0 0 Feb 18 13:42
G0CKV-3 Home 51.21.76N 000.26.74W 16.2 290 Feb 18 16:08
+G0IQK Home 51.33.03N 000.04.85E 20.0 22 Feb 18 13:39
2E0EXL-7 Jeep 51.26.04N 000.32.28W 21.9 299 Feb 18 15:15
-M0BPQ Home 51.37.59N 000.06.09W 23.8 359 Feb 18 12:59
+G8BUE Antenna 51.32.11N 000.38.36W 29.4 307 Feb 18 16:02
+G1MPC Home 51.39.42N 000.26.55W 30.0 330 Feb 18 15:24
+G4KUJ Home (HF) 51.40.55N 000.24.80W 30.5 333 Feb 18 13:32
-M1HVJ Dot 51.31.37N 000.44.30W 32.5 301 Feb 18 15:28
G7EOB-7 Digi 51.44.22N 000.20.45W 33.2 341 Feb 18 13:29
-MB7UFF (I) Diam'd 51.46.28N 000.07.34E 35.1 15 Feb 18 13:40
MB7UG Digi 51.11.34N 000.58.19W 38.6 261 Feb 18 12:50
MB7UP Digi 50.51.26N 001.04.08W 51.7 235 Feb 18 13:06
+MB7UH Digi 51.54.53N 000.53.93E 60.9 44 Feb 18 13:25
G0HWC Home (HF) 51.48.82N 001.10.12E 65.7 55 Feb 18 13:12
-MB7UIV (I) Diam'd 51.50.45N 001.13.36E 68.7 55 Feb 18 13:33
MB7UKS Digi 52.27.43N 001.16.03E 100.0 35 Feb 18 13:26
+G1XYZ Antenna 52.42.82N 000.25.39E 101.5 12 Feb 18 13:42
G7PQF-7 Car 52.39.05N 001.15.61E 111.0 31 Feb 18 13:55
Key: '+' = UI-View user '*' = heard via a digipeater
The map built up to around 120 stations during the day at its peak plus a
large number of sundry objects such as lighthouses etc..
A couple of stations called me G0IQK and G5YC but I only received a single
packet from each of them and neither acked my replies though both should be
within easy reach direct. I tried calling both G6XCJ and G0CJM as it wasn't
at first clear if you were in the UK or France as your position on findu.com
was ambiguous but later in the day both calls were shown at 'home' in
Scarborough. Various attempts were made to call both callsigns but no
packets were ever acked. I was using the path APRS,TCPIP in UIVIEW's
messaging window. I did receive a few fragmented packets from both callsigns
addressed to me over several hours so I knew you had seen me calling but I
think they were mostly indicating a similar lack of reception at your end. I
will be around tomorrow and will see if things will be better then but so
far results at communicating are to say the least poor. I wonder if anyone
has any tips on improving the situation? or is it as I suspect hopeless :-)
--
73 de Bryan
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