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G8MNY  > TECH     19.01.18 12:51l 77 Lines 4009 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: HiFi Dynamic Noise Limiter
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Sent: 180119/0726Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:6253 [Caterham Surrey GBR] $:6253_GB
From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO
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By G8MNY                            (Clarification Mar 13)
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This is an old circuit I have used for years, only 4 transistors, originally
designed by Philips as a hiss remover, for tape recorders. I have used it for
the HiFi sound channel on 23cms ATV repeater GB3HV etc. Although treble gating
can sound bad if set up badly, with the right level of noise floor, it works
very well removing just the hiss & no useful treble.

  Phase Inverting   Treble     Clipping Treble         Treble
     buffer          Amp            Amp                 Gate
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HOW IT WORKS
This is an unusual circuit. It uses treble phase cancellation to achieve the
high level of treble reduction (20dB) at low treble levels (-50dBm).

T1 produces 2 phases of signal, one via a fine level control goes to the
output. The other feeds a treble Butterworth filter T2 then on the T3 that
forms a clipped treble amplifier. T4 buffers this & produces an amplified
version that drives 2 diodes D3 & 4 to quickly charge up C8 & 9 to control the
treble gate D5 & 6. This gate gently attenuates the out of phase treble so it
cancels it out if it is weaker than -40dBm.

SETUP
Set VR1 to provide the minimum hiss on a weak hiss source >-52dBm (2mV RMS).
Then you should have a noise reduction that is like this...

ATTENUATION                                        LEVEL dBm  mV
0dB�----------...____________________.........-------- -40   7.7
   �                ~~""":---------------컴컴~~~~~~~~~ -42
   �                       ~"":-----------컴컴�~~~~~~~ -44
-10�                            ~"":------______--�~~~ -46    4
   �                                 ~":-..._______... -48
   �                                      "-...____... -50
-20�                                          "-.__.-- -52    2
   �                                             "-._
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   2k     3k     4k     5k     6k     7k       10k   15kHz  FREQUENCY

So set up the input level to this circuit to give the noise floor @-52dBm (2mV)
so that you get maximum hiss attenuation. Then as programme material treble
content gets louder the noise gate gently reduces the top attenuation.

CONCLUSION
In mono it is very impressive for such a simple circuit. But for stereo some
combination of the left & right channel DC at C8 & C9 (e.g. a pair of 1k
bridges between the 2 channel's C8s & C9s) improves the stereo, by blurring the
the spatial image (stereo location) of the soft switching points.


Also see my Tech Bul "BHI Noise Eliminating DSP LS"


Why don't U sent an interesting Bul?

73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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