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G8MNY  > TECH     20.08.08 07:59l 103 Lines 5660 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: SIP2300 Generator info
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From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EU
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By G8MNY                                       (Updated Jun 06)
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I bought a MEDUSA SIP2300 4 stroke petrol generators as the were so cheap (just
in case we have power cuts!). It is the same generator as the WOLF 2.3kW one!

It is fairly quiet @ 73dBA @ 4m. The large 12 l tank gives approx 10 hour run
time. It is not too heavy @ 83kg full, 41kg dry, to move it by oneself (only on
& off a low level trolley & lift into van etc!).

                                        Gauge   Filler
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Û³Take³³ ³ ( ) ³  ³ Û               Û³A ³       (=)oil ALT |  ³³Û
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I have modified it for /P contesting, to power several 400W Valve PAs for as
per my bul on "Petrol Gennys for /P SSB". With my rev up modification (add a
solenoid for FEED FORWARD compensation) the measured performance is now...

Generator      Unmodified               Modified
 Load kW        Volts  Hz               Volts  Hz
   0             250   55                250   55
  0.1            240   54                230   55
  1.0            225   53                234   55
  2.0 Rated      215   51                235   55
  2.3 Old Peak   200   49                233   55
  2.5            190   47                235   55
  3.0 New peak   180   45 33% throttle   220   54 @ FULL THROTTLE!

It is not intended that continious loads over 2kW be used, just speech peaks
etc. to go to 3kW peak load. Before the modification it was not possible to
activate the 10A thermal output trip on good power factor loads, after this mod
it is now possable!

At 50Hz you only get 225V output, but it is more economical to use lower RPM if
the peak power is not needed! There is no 2 speed option for this, but a long
screwdriver will adjust it OK.

Other Mods I did were..
1/ Added earth bonding from engine, to frame, & to the electric panel plate.
2/ Added earth lead & earth clip for external earth stake.
3/ Added engine ignition lead screening, & made a screen tube for the plug cap.

CIRCUIT
I have reverse engineered the diagram...
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 ³      Neon     10A    ³            |  ³D2 ³    ____/ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ  ³  ³
 ³        ³      Trip   ³bk          |  ³   ³   ÃÄ200êÙ    C1 ³  | bk/wh  ³  ³
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 ³                ³rd   ³            |  ³   ³  \_/,       63v ³+ |       Oil ³
 ³  25u 450V      ³     ³  Solenoid  |  ³  _³_ ~³~            ³  |      Neon ³
 ³  ÚÄ´ÃÄÄ¿(155V) ³     ³-------¿Mod |  ³  \_/  47ê           ³  |        ³  ³
 ³  ³     ³       ³     ³ ===== ³    |  ³ Q2³\__ÃÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÂÄÄÄ¿ ³  |        ³  ³
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 ³  ³     ³       ³     ³            |  ÀÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÁÄÄÄ)ÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ  ³
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 ³  ³or   ³or     ³rd   ³bk  |            __  oil         bk³           bk/wh³
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_³_ À(((()Ù ===== À(((()Ù    |   Pickup |(  ÀÄ´ÃÄÄÙ             Spark  ||(6k ³
     ====  Ú(((()¿ =====     |    -2V   _³_  1n                 Plug   ||(___³
           ÀÄ´>ÃÄÙ           |                                         ||( 1ê
     A L T E R N A T O R     |   C R A N K C A S E        M A G N E T O _³_
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                                        FRAME             COWLING
ELECTRONIC IGNITION
The electronic ignition works in a strange way, as top dead centre approaches a
voltage of -80V or so is made by the magneto primary, this is shorted out when
the timing pulse triggers the SCR shorting this voltage & producing an ignition
voltage in the magneto secondary.

Only one wire from the crankcase handles both the timing, & the oil status. If
low oil, the crankcase oil switch is not made, & the ignition is killed after
the oil warning neon light was lit for 30 seconds.

Does anyone really understand the operation of this circuit?

Any feedback on the working of it would be appreciated.


Y Don't U send an interesting bul?

73 de John G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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