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G8MNY  > TECH     14.04.08 23:35l 66 Lines 2960 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Lead Acid Batteries
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By G8MNY                                            (Updated Jun 05)
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BATTERY OPEN CIRCUIT?
Have you checked to see it they come up with a reverse charge? This is
something that is quite safe to do to a Lead acid (but never a Nicad as they
may explode), as this is how the original batteries were made.

FLAT STATE
+ Plate      Electrolyte     - Plate
Pb PbSO4         H20         PbSO4 Pb
Grey/White    Low SG=1.0    Grey/White

CHARGED STATE
+ Plate      Electrolyte     - Plate
Pb PbO2      H20+H2SO4       Pb  Pb
  Brown       SG > 1.25       Grey

There is 2 type of lead (PbSO4) sulphate that is formed on flat batteries, the
first type is conductive & allows normal recharging, the 2nd type that
crystilizes over a long time is hard white lead sulphate that just insulates
the cell plate & inhibits normal recharging unless very high voltages
(>5V/Cell) are applied. But reverse charging (with a suitable current limiting
lamp in series) will break down the hard sulphate immediately. A couple of
charge/discharge cycles will then bring back a heavily sulphated battery to
near normal capacity.

DRY FIT TYPES??
The so called dryfit batteries are actually wet types with a clever seal. They
are just as susceptible to loss of water by over-charging & warm temperatures
as wet batteries are, but your supposed to throw this type away instead of
topping them up!
                 WET TYPE                DRY TYPE
                  Top up                  Hidden
                   Plug     Internal       Plug
                ÚÄÄÂ==ÂÄÄ¿_ Connections_ÚÄÄÂ--ÂÄÄ¿
                ÃÛÄÙ  ÀÄÛ³              ÃÛÄÙ""ÀÄÛ³
                ³Û------Û³--Acid Level--³ÛÜÜÜÜÜÜÛ³
                ³ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ³              ³ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ³ Acid totally
                ³ÛPLATESÛ³              ³ÛPLATESÛ³ Absorbed in
                ³ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ³              ³ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ³ seperators.
                ³ßßßßßßßß³Deposit       ³ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ³
                ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙSpace         ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

However closer examination of the top of dryfits will show a glued cover over a
set of 6 rubber cup caps that if removed will let the cells be topped up as
normal. Only some success is possible with this method, as over-charging
usually destroys the lead frame in the +ve plate as well & it falls apart.

Cycle charging up to 14.5V (6 cells), 13.8V standard infinite float charge, but
13.5V MAX on sealed cells.

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Tony, G8TBF says there is another way to recover batteries that have gone high
resistance due to being left idle for long periods.
Connect a bridge rectifier across the battery, + to +, & supply this from a
240V AC source in series with a 15W or 40W light bulb. The supply should
preferably be from an isolating transformer..... 73, Tony, G8TBF.


Why Don't U send an interesting bul? 

73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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