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G8MNY > TECH 15.03.22 09:53l 146 Lines 7542 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Another Mic Preamp
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Sent: 220315/0749Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:63024 [Caterham Surrey GBR]
From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO
To : TECH@WW
From: 2E1ESY@GB7NND.#23.GBR.EU
(8 Bit ASCII graphics use code page 437 or 850, Terminal Font)
The microphone below I have made & used now for around 15 years, it has lots of
gain & a very small current drain, the 1.5V battery will last for over a year
with daily use.
Pre-Amp Microphone
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+1.5V
컴컴컴컴컴컴컫컴컴쩡컴컴쩡컴컴컴컫컴컫컴컴컴컴쩡컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴캑
� � � � � �
� � � R5 � � R6 � �袴袴袴袴敲 -1.5V
C5 � � � � � � 旼컴봬栢 栢캤컴컴컴�
渼쵬 � � C6 � � + C7 � � � SW1 �
� � 읕컴늘컴캑 읕컴倍컴캑 � 旼봬栢 栢캤커
� R1 � � R7 � � � � � �
� � 旼컴컴컴컴냐컴캇굇궂컴캑 � � � 栢 栢 � �
� � � � � � � 훤袴袴袴袴� �
E1 + � �+ C1� 旼훏컴캑 旼<훒켸 � 읕컴컴컴컴쩡컴�
께께컴컴캐컴컴컴컵콕쳐탠b큈1 읕컴컴b큈2 읕컴컴컴컴컴냐컴컴PTT�>
께께컴� � � � 읕>e커 읕컴c커 �
- � � C2 � � � �+ C4 �
� � 渼쵬 � � 旼늘컴컵콕쳐� 쳐SCREEN컴>
� � � R2 � R3 � � C3 � � �
� � � � � � � �<컴컴컴컴캐횫UDIO컴�>
� � � � � � R4 � 쿝V1 �
컴컴컴좔컨컴컴좔컴컴컴좔컴컴컴좔컴컴컴좔컴컴컨컴컴좔컴컴컴컴컨컴컴컴컴�
Resistors:- R1,R4=1k. R2,R7=100k. R3=470ohm. R5=10k. R6=510ohm. RV1=5k lin pot.
Capacitors:- C1,C4,C7=1mf mini electrolytic capacitor. C2=1nf disc capacitor
C3,C5,C6=4.7nf disc capacitor.
Transistors:- T1=BC549C. T2=BC559C.
E1=Electret Mic Element. SW1=D.P.D.T. Switch.
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MATRIX BOARD LAYOUT
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+旼컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴�
�넌敲E1 旼컴컴컴컴컴캐컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴커 旼컴�
� � � �袴袴袴固袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴固袴넌� � �袴袴袴袴敲
훤固� � � � o � oC2� � o 헢3 oC3� 헢4� � � � � RV1 �
�- � 勁넌袴袴넌袴袴넌固袴袴固袴�*袴袴꽜告袴袴袴攷 � � �
旼컴� � � 쿗1o � o � 쿝2o � * 헱 � � +헍4o � � 훤箇藁袴箇�
� 旼캐컴� 勁넌袴袴넌袴袴넌告袴袴固袴�*固袴袴袴袴꽜袴攷 읕컴컴� 읕캐�
� � � � � � � � +� � � 헳 � * 쿟2o o � o캤컴컴컴컴컴컴켸�
� 旼냐캐커� 勁넌固袴袴呱袴袴固袴盃袴袴�*谷袴袴袴袴袴袴攷 �袴袴袴敲 �
� �固固敲� 납 � � 쿝1o 핧1o � �b � * b� o 헚2o o � �(-) (+)� �
� � | | 볐 납 勁넌固袴袴袴袴袴袴袴盃告袴�*谷袴袴固袴袴袴攷 훤넌袴넌� �
쳐봬|�|캤� 납 � � � o o o oT1� 핾7o 햑 � � � o � 旼켸B1 � �
� � | | � 납 勁넌固袴袴袴�*袴袴袴넌袴袴袴袴袴넌*넌固袴袴박캐컴컴컴� �
� 훤袴袴� 납 � � � � *o o 햎 � � o � *� 콯7o 볐 � �
� S1 납 勁袴固袴꽜袴�*袴袴袴袴告袴꽜袴袴넌*袴固袴袴뭄 � 旼컴컴켸
� 납 � o � 핧5o o o oR5� 핧6o 핾6o +� o캤� � � AUDIO
� 납 훤袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴暠 � 읕컴컴�>
� 냅컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸 P.T.T.
� �
� 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴�>
� SCREEN
읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴>
Output to TX >>>>
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DIAGRAM VIEWED FROM COMPONENT SIDE, COPPER STRIP ON OPPOSITE SIDE
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Diagram Symbols:- � = Resistors. � = Capacitors. o = Vero board holes
e c
� �
�b b� = Transistors. * = Breaks in Copper track.
� �
c e
+ = Marked on diagram for the positive connection on electrolytic capacitors
L=Link Wire. B1=1.5V AA Cell Battery
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� � 73 de Alan � �
� � 2E1ESY @GB7NND.#23.GBR.EU � �
Why don't U send an interesting bul?
SB TECH @ WW
A Simple V.O.X. Circuit
By G8MNY (Updated Sep 09)
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Here is a 3 transistors 6 diodes circuit that is a Voice Operated Tx PTT
control as well as an ANTI VOX circuit to stop mis-operation from Rx noise.
SCHEMATIC
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>캑 RFI 척MIC척 AF 척Set Decay척 Set 척 LEVEL 척 Set 척 AF 쳐<Rx
Mic쿑ilter납AMP납DETECTOR납 Time 납Level납COMPARITOR납Level납DETECTOR� LS
In 읕컴컴켸읕컴牡컴컴컴컴牡컴컴컴컴켸읕컴컴牡컴컴컫컴컴牡컴컴켸읕컴컴컴켸
旼컴컴좔컴커
쿛TT DRIVER쳐�>PTT
읕컴컴컴컴켸
CIRCUIT
VOX TIME VOX GAIN ANTI VOX Smooth
+旼컴컴쩡컴컴컴컴컫컴쩡컴쩡컴컫컴컴컴컴컴컴컫컴컫컴컴컫컴컴컴컴�<+9-15V
100u === _�_ 2uF�+ � � � � +�10u _�_
_�_ D1\_/ === � 220k � 旼>10k === /_\ D5
쳐컴커 � === VAR � PNP�/e POT � �
� Ge_�_D2 10k 퀅1 � 220k<컴쩡캑 � � D4 �+10u
10k /_\ Ge� � � POT � �\ 읕컴좔�>쳐좔늘컴47R�< LS
旼컴컴� � D3 � � � � 10M � DETECTOR
� 쳐늘컨캑<쳐좔컨컴컨컴컴� 읕컴�(컴컴컴쩡컴컴컴컴쩡컴컴�> PTT
10M � u1 DETECTOR � � �
� �/ 4k7 �/ BC107 _�_
컴늘컨쿨캑 BC109 쳐컴캑 NPN /_\ back
u1 FB �\e 4k7 �\e D6 � EMF
MIC � � � �
컴컴컴컴컴컨컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴좔컴컴컨컴컴컴컴컨컴컴컴< GND
MIC AMP PTT DRIVER
All diodes are 1N4148 or Germanium point contact type.
HOW IT WORKS
The BC109 Mic high gain amp is RF protected by the Ferrite Bead on the base
lead. Its' low level output is voltage doubled with Germanium diodes D2 & D3
into double time constants Caps to give fast attach & slow decay time
responces. The rectified DC is referenced from the +ve rail less the voltage
drop of Silicon diode D1 together with the germanium detector diodes, this
makes the Mic Audio detector very sensitive! The voltage is put across the 220k
VOX gain pot, & the hang time determined by the 220k decay variable control
that discharges the capacitors.
The gain controlled sample of the DC switches on the PNP which turns on the NPN
PTT drive transistor, that is protected from rig relay back EMF by D6. The 10M�
from the PNP base to NPN collector, gives positive feedback hysteresis if
needed (SCHMITT) for snap on-off action.
High level LS audio is also voltage doubled with Silicon diodes D4 & 5 to give
DC that feeds the ANTI VOX control, this DC is used on the emitter of the PNP
to stop the PTT operating from loud RX LS audio that may be heard by the mic.
See my Tech Bul "Rig DC Power & RF Hazards"
Why Don't U send an interesting bul?
73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP
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