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G8MNY > TECH 24.09.20 08:50l 113 Lines 4834 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Marconi Distortion MeterTF2337
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Sent: 200924/0649Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:7305 [Caterham Surrey GBR] $:7305_GB
From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO
To : TECH@WW
By G8MNY (Correction Sep 16)
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Level Meter Distortion Meter
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�--旼컴컴컴컴컴왯컴컴컴컴컴커--� I have been working on one of these
� 뇌 납� � � old AF automatic distortion meters.
� � '. 납 '. � � It is quite different to the usual
�--읕컴컴컴컴컴牡컴컴컴컴컴켸--� fiddly variable Wien Bridge deep
� � notch type. So it is ideally suited
� 0 � for setting up tape machines, where
� Function Distort � the playback level & frequency will
� [][][][] [][][][] � never be that steady.
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읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸
In Level Range Mains
Level Ranges:- 30V, 10V, 3V, 1V, 300mV, 100mV, 30mV, 10mV.
:- 30, 20, 10, 0, -10, -20, -30, -40 dBV
Response :- 10Hz - 250kHz @ -3dB
Distortion Filters 400Hz, 1kHz & External.
Distortion Ranges: 30%, 10%, 3%, 1% min to 0.2%
& dBs -10 -20 -40 -40 min to -55dB
Harmonic Response: 1.5x Filter to 130kHz @ -3dB
Mains 230V. odd 3 pin 1cm square socket.
The automatic refers to the distortion measurement does not need the zero level
reference level to be set first. (But is must be reading 30-100% on the level
meter scale.) This is done not by a very low distortion AGC system as you might
think, but a cleaver meter movement with 2 coils & no return springs. One coil
is fed with rectified DC from the input level detector 1 & acts as the return
spring & the other is fed from an 2nd detector from a high pass filter that
removes all of the fundamental, so it just the harmonics. The resultant meter
deflection is the distortion fraction.
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쿌tten� � Amp � � 쿏et 1� DC 읕컴컴컴컴컴� �
읕컴컴� 읕컴컴� � � 쳐컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴커 �
� 읕컴컴� 旼컴컨컨컴컴커
� 旼컴컴컴컴� � DISTORTION �
� o캑400Hz HPF쳐o 旼컴컴� 旼컴컴� �2 COIL METER�
� 쳐컴컴컴컴� � Set � 쿗evel� 읕컴컫컫컴컴켸
�>o캑 1kHz HPF쳐o<캑Gain 쳐캑Det 2쳐컴컴컴� �
읕컴컴컴컴� � Amp � � 쳐컴컴컴컴�
o� External 컴o 읓쩟쩟� 읕컴컴� DC
^컴�Dist Range
It just uses simple RC transistor Amps & bridge diodes for the electronics. The
notches are sealed LC high Q units. (M derived?)
There are only 3 presets:- Level gain, Distortion gain, & input amp Bias.
DISTORTION MEASURING PRINCIPLES
f1 f2
� f1 0dB캑 | 憫컴컴컴 � f1
Level� � f2 � | � High � f2
� � � f3 � | � Pass � � f3
� � � � f4 f5 -60dB_�___|_/ Filter � � � f4 f5
읕컴좔컴좔컴좔컴좔컴� 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴� 읕컴컴컴좔컴좔컴좔컴�
Distorted Signal Filter Filtered Signal
The high pass filter must completely remove the fundamental & all LF hums etc.
but leave all the harmonics intact. The detectors (especially the distortion
one) should be a true RMS type, as the waveform will generally be very complex
& nothing like a sine wave. The ratio of f1 to all the harmonics f2+++ is the
distortion factor.
Calibration is done by adding in a 2nd tone (e.g. 3-10x freq) via high value Rs
at say 10% of the level to indicate 10% distortion. The distortion meter
bandwidth can also be checked with this circuit.
1V 1kHz 훟-o컴�10k컴쩡컴쩡컴컴커
Osc 1 o � � �
_�_ � � Distortion
� DVM Meter
100mV � _�_ _�_
2-20kHz 훟-o컴�10k컴�
Osc 2 o
_�_
To check the HPF filter is working OK a very pure sine wave is needed, so an LC
tuned circuit after a signal generator is used. But I did find that > 0.5V @
resonance on the meter did make the inductor distortion rise > 0.01% !
Osc 88mH 500mV
50mV 1kHz 컴�((((()컴쩡컴컴� Hi Z
low Z � Distortion
� 0.28uF === Meter
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MODERN ANSWER
Of course with a good quality PC sound card & a Furrier analysis program that
can add up the harmonics distortion measurement should be easy.
See my bul "Simple 1kHz AF osc".
Why don't U send an interesting bul?
73 de John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP
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