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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: 30M MMSSTV 10.132    
    From: jdow

2a. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: ve3wej gmail
2b. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: Russell Blair
2c. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: Fred VE3FAL
2d. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: Russell Blair
2e. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: ve3wej gmail
2f. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: Russell Blair
2g. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: ve3wej gmail
2h. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: Russell Blair
2i. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: W6IDS
2j. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: jdow
2k. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m    
    From: Dave Jones

3. ARRL/TAPR Digital Communication Conference, Chicago, September 26 -     
    From: Mark Thompson


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: 30M MMSSTV 10.132
    Posted by: "jdow" jdow(AT)earthlink.net ferdyfubar
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:54 am ((PDT))

One wonders if one could then produce an SSTV transmission that did
not use an SSB voice transceiver to up-convert its FM based signal
from audio baseband to RF would it then be legal?

The superstitious babble about the means of production of a signal is
stupid and rather anti-scientific.

By that ARRL bozoid's reckoning PSK31 is illegal because it is usually
produced using SSB to upcconvert audio to RF.

Dan Henderson is a dolt, IMAO.

{^_^}   Joanne, W6MKU
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ve3wej gmail" <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 2008, September 09 12:36
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] 30M MMSSTV 10.132


> > sure explains why you get no answer, eh???
> > 
> > 
> > VE3WEJ 
> > Dave Garber
> > 
> > 10-X # 23465
> > echolink # 52852
> > irlp node 2202
> > email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca



Messages in this topic (23)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2a. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "ve3wej gmail" ve3wej(AT)gmail.com ve3wej
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:21 pm ((PDT))

i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv...  19 
does not support it, oh well


VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT)yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m


Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as 
well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and 
scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.

Russell NC5O


=================
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM






I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: "MMSSTV" <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

> > Sorry, I do see your signal but I have a lot of QRM today it is raining. I
> > hope thing will get better. Thnaks.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >

> > Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55
> >




Messages in this topic (14)
________________________________________________________________________
2b. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "Russell Blair" russell_blair86(AT)yahoo.com russell_blair86
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:35 pm ((PDT))

Well good Dave, I'v been on 10.132 all day and not a peepe, called cq a 
few times but no good.
 
Russell


================= 
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:20 PM






i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv... 19 
does not support it, oh well

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as 
well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and 
scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.

Russell NC5O

============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM

I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: "MMSSTV" <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

> > Sorry, I do see your signal but I have a lot of QRM today it is raining. I
> > hope thing will get better. Thnaks.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >

> > Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55
> >

Messages in this topic (14)
________________________________________________________________________
2c. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "Fred VE3FAL" flesnick(AT)tbaytel.net ve3fal
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:28 pm ((PDT))

What mode are you guys using? I am using MMSSTV 1.11G....

Fred
VE3FAL

I can at least listen from Canada, but not sure if I can transmit that data
from here due to bandwidth.



-----Original Message-----
From: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com [mailto:MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Russell Blair
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:35 PM
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Well good Dave, I'v been on 10.132 all day and not a peepe, called cq a few
times but no good.
 
Russell


 
================= 
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:20 PM






i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv... 19 
does not support it, oh well

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as 
well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and 
scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.

Russell NC5O


============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM

I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: "MMSSTV" <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

> > Sorry, I do see your signal but I have a lot of QRM today it is raining. I
> > hope thing will get better. Thnaks.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >

> > Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55



Messages in this topic (14)
________________________________________________________________________
2d. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "Russell Blair" russell_blair86(AT)yahoo.com russell_blair86
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:58 pm ((PDT))

Fred, do a right click on a mode as in Scottie 2 and you look down the list 
to MP73N thats it. The bandwidth will be <500hz. 
 
Russell NC5O 


================= 
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Fred VE3FAL <flesnick(AT)tbaytel.net> wrote:

From: Fred VE3FAL <flesnick(AT)tbaytel.net>
Subject: RE: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 4:28 PM






What mode are you guys using? I am using MMSSTV 1.11G....

Fred
VE3FAL

I can at least listen from Canada, but not sure if I can transmit that data
from here due to bandwidth.

-----Original Message-----
From: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com [mailto:MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of
Russell Blair
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:35 PM
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Well good Dave, I'v been on 10.132 all day and not a peepe, called cq a few
times but no good.
 
Russell

============ ===== 
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:20 PM

i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv... 19 
does not support it, oh well

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as 
well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and 
scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.

Russell NC5O

============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM

I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: "MMSSTV" <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

> > Sorry, I do see your signal but I have a lot of QRM today it is raining. I
> > hope thing will get better. Thnaks.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >
> > ============ =====
> > Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55
------------ --------- --------- ------


Messages in this topic (14)
________________________________________________________________________
2e. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "ve3wej gmail" ve3wej(AT)gmail.com ve3wej
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:36 pm ((PDT))

according to the NEW (07/2008) cdn bandplan, we CAN send narrow band digital 
(up to 500 hz bandwidth), so is sstv a digital mode, or voice???


VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick(AT)tbaytel.net>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m


What mode are you guys using? I am using MMSSTV 1.11G....

Fred
VE3FAL

I can at least listen from Canada, but not sure if I can transmit that data
from here due to bandwidth.



-----Original Message-----
From: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com [mailto:MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Russell Blair
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:35 PM
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Well good Dave, I'v been on 10.132 all day and not a peepe, called cq a few
times but no good.

Russell


=================
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:20 PM






i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv... 19
does not support it, oh well

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as
well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and
scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.

Russell NC5O

============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM

I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: "MMSSTV" <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

> > Sorry, I do see your signal but I have a lot of QRM today it is raining. I
> > hope thing will get better. Thnaks.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >

> > ============ =====
> > Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55
> >


Messages in this topic (14)
________________________________________________________________________
2f. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "Russell Blair" russell_blair86(AT)yahoo.com russell_blair86
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:14 pm ((PDT))

Well Dave, that has been a subject of discussion hr in this group, some say it 
voice if the bandwidth that is used on 14,230, and some say it digital, 
based on its bandwidth is less than <500hr wide.  
I hope that helps. I hope I said that wright. 
 
Russell NC5O 


================= 
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:34 PM






according to the NEW (07/2008) cdn bandplan, we CAN send narrow band digital 
(up to 500 hz bandwidth), so is sstv a digital mode, or voice???

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick(AT)tbaytel. net>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

What mode are you guys using? I am using MMSSTV 1.11G....

Fred
VE3FAL

I can at least listen from Canada, but not sure if I can transmit that data
from here due to bandwidth.

-----Original Message-----
From: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com [mailto:MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of
Russell Blair
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:35 PM
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Well good Dave, I'v been on 10.132 all day and not a peepe, called cq a few
times but no good.

Russell

============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:20 PM

i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv... 19
does not support it, oh well

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as
well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and
scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.

Russell NC5O

============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM

I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: "MMSSTV" <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

> > Sorry, I do see your signal but I have a lot of QRM today it is raining. I
> > hope thing will get better. Thnaks.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >
> > ============ =====
> > Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55


Messages in this topic (14)
________________________________________________________________________
2g. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "ve3wej gmail" ve3wej(AT)gmail.com ve3wej
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:23 pm ((PDT))

seen you on my screen, no fskid, but picture was faint

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT)yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m


Well Dave, that has been a subject of discussion hr in this group, some say 
it voice if the bandwidth that is used on 14,230, and some say it digital, 
based on its bandwidth is less than <500hr wide. I hope that helps. I hope I 
said that wright.

Russell NC5O


=================
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:34 PM






according to the NEW (07/2008) cdn bandplan, we CAN send narrow band digital
(up to 500 hz bandwidth), so is sstv a digital mode, or voice???

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick(AT)tbaytel. net>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

What mode are you guys using? I am using MMSSTV 1.11G....

Fred
VE3FAL

I can at least listen from Canada, but not sure if I can transmit that data
from here due to bandwidth.

-----Original Message-----
From: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com [mailto:MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com] On Behalf 
Of
Russell Blair
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:35 PM
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Well good Dave, I'v been on 10.132 all day and not a peepe, called cq a few
times but no good.

Russell

============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:20 PM

i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv... 19
does not support it, oh well

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as
well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and
scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.

Russell NC5O


============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM

I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: "MMSSTV" <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

> > Sorry, I do see your signal but I have a lot of QRM today it is raining. I
> > hope thing will get better. Thnaks.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >
> > ============ =====
> > Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55

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2h. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "Russell Blair" russell_blair86(AT)yahoo.com russell_blair86
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:37 pm ((PDT))

Dave, I hear some one now but it is decode it but very fant.
 
Russell 


================= 
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 6:22 PM






seen you on my screen, no fskid, but picture was faint

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Well Dave, that has been a subject of discussion hr in this group, some say 
it voice if the bandwidth that is used on 14,230, and some say it digital, 
based on its bandwidth is less than <500hr wide. I hope that helps. I hope I 
said that wright.

Russell NC5O


============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:34 PM

according to the NEW (07/2008) cdn bandplan, we CAN send narrow band digital
(up to 500 hz bandwidth), so is sstv a digital mode, or voice???

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick(AT)tbaytel. net>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

What mode are you guys using? I am using MMSSTV 1.11G....

Fred
VE3FAL

I can at least listen from Canada, but not sure if I can transmit that data
from here due to bandwidth.

-----Original Message-----
From: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com [mailto:MM-SSTV(AT) yahoogroups .com] On Behalf 
Of
Russell Blair
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:35 PM
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Well good Dave, I'v been on 10.132 all day and not a peepe, called cq a few
times but no good.

Russell

============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:20 PM

i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv... 19
does not support it, oh well

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as
well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and
scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.

Russell NC5O

============ =====
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:

From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM

I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..

VE3WEJ
Dave Garber

10-X # 23465
echolink # 52852
irlp node 2202
email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
To: "MMSSTV" <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m

> > Sorry, I do see your signal but I have a lot of QRM today it is raining. I
> > hope thing will get better. Thnaks.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >
> > ============ =====
> > Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55


Messages in this topic (14)
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2i. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "W6IDS" w6ids(AT)verizon.net w6ids2003
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:12 pm ((PDT))


So, it "IS" acceptable to conduct NBSSTV on 10.132 or whatever?

That said, where else are we finding NBSSTV appearing?

Hmmm..... will MMSSTV 1.11G work on  VISTA 64?  I only know
from my Windows XP lifetime which ended a month ago.

Howard W6IDS


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT)yahoo.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m


Fred, do a right click on a mode as in Scottie 2 and you look down the list 
to MP73N thats it. The bandwidth will be <500hz.

Russell NC5O



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2j. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "jdow" jdow(AT)earthlink.net ferdyfubar
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:22 pm ((PDT))

SSTV as in the 500 Hz mode being touted is an analog FM mode. It is not
allowed on 30 meters in the US. It is decidedly not a digital mode.

{^_^}
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ve3wej gmail" <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 2008, September 11 15:34
Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m


> > according to the NEW (07/2008) cdn bandplan, we CAN send narrow band 
> > digital
> > (up to 500 hz bandwidth), so is sstv a digital mode, or voice???
> >
> >
> > VE3WEJ
> > Dave Garber
> >
> > 10-X # 23465
> > echolink # 52852
> > irlp node 2202
> > email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick(AT)tbaytel.net>
> > To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
> >
> >
> > What mode are you guys using? I am using MMSSTV 1.11G....
> >
> > Fred
> > VE3FAL
> >
> > I can at least listen from Canada, but not sure if I can transmit that 
> > data
> > from here due to bandwidth.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com [mailto:MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of
> > Russell Blair
> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:35 PM
> > To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
> >
> > Well good Dave, I'v been on 10.132 all day and not a peepe, called cq a 
> > few
> > times but no good.
> >
> > Russell

> > =================
> > Russell Blair (NC5O)
> > Skype-Russell Blair
> > Hell Field #300
> > DRCC #55
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
> > To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:20 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > i had to finally upgrade to 111g in order to copy the narrow sstv... 19
> > does not support it, oh well
> >
> > VE3WEJ
> > Dave Garber
> >
> > 10-X # 23465
> > echolink # 52852
> > irlp node 2202
> > email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Russell Blair" <russell_blair86(AT) yahoo.com>
> > To: <MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
> >
> > Hi Dave, Ya same hr a lot of CQ's from N4WI and even a DX station PZ5RA as
> > well, nice to see all the activity, Ya some on them were on Martin 2 and
> > scottie 2. so hope they will move over to SSTV-N.
> >
> > Russell NC5O
> >
> > ============ =====
> > Russell Blair (NC5O)
> > Skype-Russell Blair
> > Hell Field #300
> > DRCC #55
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com> wrote:
> >
> > From: ve3wej gmail <ve3wej(AT)gmail. com>
> > Subject: Re: [MM-SSTV] Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
> > To: MM-SSTV(AT)yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:43 PM
> >
> > I am seeing signals, too, but few fskid to tell who they all were..
> >
> > VE3WEJ
> > Dave Garber
> >
> > 10-X # 23465
> > echolink # 52852
> > irlp node 2202
> > email ve3wej(AT)rac.ca

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2k. Re: Seeing a lot of SSTV-N on 30m
    Posted by: "Dave Jones" kb4yz(AT)hughes.net kb4yz
    Date: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:11 am ((PDT))

No, the FCC considers 500 Hz SSTV to be a data mode.
Allowing SSTV in the "data" segment on nearly all bands.

See the FCC Report and Order released in 2006:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-149A1.pdf

Dave KB4YZ

jdow wrote:

> > SSTV as in the 500 Hz mode being touted is an analog FM mode. It is not
> > allowed on 30 meters in the US. It is decidedly not a digital mode.


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________________________________________________________________________
3. ARRL/TAPR Digital Communication Conference, Chicago, September 26 - 
    Posted by: "Mark Thompson" wb9qzb(AT)yahoo.com wb9qzb
    Date: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:41 pm ((PDT))

http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2008/09/11/10327/?nc=1

ARRL, TAPR Prepare for Digital Communications Conference in Chicago, 
September 26 - 28 

 
Aficionados of digital communications are gearing up for the 27th annual 
ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC) September 26-28 in 
Chicago, Illinois. 
The ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference is an international forum 
for radio amateurs to meet, publish their work and present new ideas and 
techniques. 
Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange ideas and 
learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories, experimental 
results, and practical applications. 

The DCC is for all levels of technical experience -- not just for the 
expert. 
Not only is the conference technically stimulating, it is a weekend of 
fun for all who have more than a casual interest in any aspect of amateur 
digital electronics and communications; introductory sessions are scheduled 
throughout the conference to introduce new technical topics for both 
beginners and experts.
 
Topics at the DCC include, but are not limited to: Software 
defined radio (SDR); digital voice (D-STAR, P25, WinDRM, FDMDV, G4GUO); 
digital satellite communications; 
Global Position System (GPS); 
precision timing; Automatic Position Reporting System (APRS); 
short messaging (a mode of APRS); Digital Signal Processing (DSP); 
HF digital modes; 
Internet interoperability with Amateur Radio networks; spread spectrum; 
IEEE 802.11 and other Part 15 license-exempt systems adaptable for 
Amateur Radio; 
using TCP/IP networking over Amateur Radio; mesh and peer-to-peer wireless 
networking; 
emergency and Homeland Defense backup digital communications; 
using Linux in Amateur Radio; 
updates on AX.25, and other wireless networking protocols.
 
QEX Editor Larry Wolfgang, WR1B, will represent the ARRL at the Conference. 
He will also be giving a talk "Writing for Publication -- 
It's Not Rocket Science (Even if You Are Writing About Rocket Science!)." 
Retired ARRL Chief Technology Officer Paul Rinaldo, W4RI, will also 
represent the League. Rinaldo will speak on "SDR Outlook."
 
The DCC provides a separate (and lockable) room for participants to bring 
and show off their latest projects. 
Tables and power will be provided. 
Participants are encouraged to bring their own equipment and display for 
all to see, learn, and ask questions about, as well as a small sign and/or 
flyer naming and describing their project.
 
D-STAR digital voice and data will be the focus of the DCC Friday 
evening session. Pioneers and leaders in D-STAR digital voice and data 
technology will be presenting the technical innovations in D-STAR and how 
it is being used worldwide. In addition to the Friday evening session, 
ICOM will be at the DCC demonstrating D-STAR radios in the demonstration 
room, and TAPR's 70 cm and 23 cm D-STAR digital voice and data repeaters 
(KT7APR) with Internet gateway will be on the air.
 
Sunday Seminar Speaker Announced 
 
Each year, the DCC hosts an in-depth 4 hour seminar on Sunday. 
Past seminars have included such topics as Software Defined Radios, 
Spread Spectrum Design and Theory, RD Design and Deployment, 
PICmicro MCU Design and Development, Packet Radio Networks with Millions 
or Billions of Stations and others. Seminars are given by experts in their field -- 
this year is no different. Phil Harman, VK6APH, will present 
"Software Radio Through the Looking-Glass."
 
Harman, licensed for more than 40 years, has worked on leading-edge RF 
techniques related to receivers and transmitters. 
His current passion is the development of fully digital HF radios. 
Harmon co-writes the Software Defined Radio column in the RSGB Radio 
Communications journal and also co-authored the SDR chapter in the latest 
RSGB Handbook. 
He will guide participants through the basics of SDRs right up to the very 
latest techniques that digitize signals directly at the antenna socket. 
Using diagrams and a minimum of math, Harmon will cover such subjects as 
front end design, mixers, I and Q signals, digital up and down conversion, 
AGC techniques, noise blanking and high efficiency power amplifiers. 
The presentation will be highly interactive, so be sure to bring along 
that question that has been puzzling you for so long!
 
Conference presentations, meetings, and seminars will be held at the Holiday 
Inn Hotel Elk Grove Village, Illinois. 
It is highly recommended that participants book rooms prior to arriving. 
A block of rooms at the special DCC room rate of $89.00 single/double is 
available; this rate is good until the block is all sold out. 
The hotel provides a complimentary shuttle to and from O'Hare Airport.
 
Register for the DCC at: www.tapr.org/dcc


      


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