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Subj: RE: Ian G0TEZ's various topics
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DT: Monday, February 4th.,2013 @ 0139hrs EST <JPST>
Hello Ian and others ...maybe reading along..if not, then
...well...on with it;
<< Quoting G0TEZ to FOOD @WW >>
> From : G0TEZ To : FOOD @WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 03-Feb 15:53
> Bid : 410026G0TEZ Message # : 84141
> Title : KB2VXA and diet.
>
> Quote.
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> "Hi Ian and all,
>
> Eh, so what does an athiest know about so many religious prohibitions?
> I say many because there are far more than dietary laws so I don't
> worry about my ignorance so why should you?"
I take it, that Ian is responding to ??? at this point ...so no real
comment on the dietary laws, on what thouest should not eat.
> At the age of 8 I was told to prepare for and exam called The Diocese
> of Hereford Bible and Prayerbook Examination.
>
> The exam was purely Christianity but, as I was studying, I managed
> to get my hands on books about the other religions. Ancestor worship,
> Buddhism,Braminism, Judaism and, of course, the Koran.
>
> After reading all these books I found a common thread; "If you obey all
> the 'thou shalt nots' and other rules, you will have a wonderful time
> after you are dead."
>
> I remember thinking "Jam Tomorrow." an old English saying which means,
> you will get paid tomorrow for work today and, of course, tomorrow never
> comes.
I never had a exam on religion, so unfortunately, I never got to study
the other religions of the world, as you did Ian.
> That finally converted me to atheism, even thogh I won first prize in
> the exam. Atheism in it's strict sense means #against gods' not religions.
> I agree with Sir bertrand Russell in that religion is a crutch people
> use because they are (quite naturally) terrified of death.
As you might well know, religions also use GOD to justify their actions,
when they know very well they are wrong.
> The faithful all standing or sitting in a room, talking to someone who
> isn't there, strikes me as a form of insanity but, if it helps them,
> let them believe what they want.
As funny as it sounds, it is right. I feel like they are only going
thru the moves, of what is expected at a service sunday morning. If
one can not live by the teachings of the Bible, then why go to church?
They know they are going to comeout and, seem empowered to carry out
GOD's will. I know very religious people, that never go to church
and are most upstanding and honest, and I have no doubts in their
character. The big problem, is they are very few. Very few.
> Eight yeard later, at the end of what you call 'High School' I wasn't
> too sure I had the minimum nimber of exams to go forward so I spent
> three days and nights memorising the New Testament. My exam sheets
> formed a big, untidy pile, compared with just 2 or 3 sheets of foolscap
> (about A4) at the end of the exam but, it transpired that I had scored
> 100%, the highest ever scored by a long way. 20 years later I found
> that I was even mentioned in records as the highest scoring student in
> RK (Religious Knowledge).
That mighty good Ian. Really.
> As a young man I found a lot of people who just couldn't believe that I
> was an atheist, trying to convert me to their religion, even a Rabbi
> who I had helped out when he was ill and, if you know your Judaism,
> you will know that they do not evangelise so, being invited to become
> a jew is a big deal. Rabbi Franks was a nice old man so I didn't want
> to upset him and just made some excuse.
No problem , you being an atheist Ian. You believe what you believe.
> We have had religious arguments on packet before so I still keep a
> bible handy for reference. It is also quite a good piece of literature.
> I especially like Ecclesiastes and The Song of Solomon, very thin books
> next to each other, I can reccomend them.
The problem on packet, is instead of accepting the opinion of others,
they get into this mode of I will change your opinion and outlook, and
due to you not changing, they get rude and insulting.
> I was slightly puzzled by the fact that the recent discovery of horsemeat
> in burgers and non halal meat in prisons has not been mentioned as a
> religious issue on TV. They have concentrated more on the fact that the
> very idea of eating cute horses will upset hose lovers.
Yes...exactly, and then too, shall we really open the topic of what
they eat in other countrys WE, or you, or anyone wants to mention...eh??
> No mention either of the fact that horse steaks are openly on sale in
> France even though it is a very religious, Roman Catholic country.
Yes, as well isn't horsemeat a delicacy in some countrys?
> The TV people like getting out the woodn spoon and winding people up and
> the very devout make an easy target.
Some very devout also just accept the fact that ...there are other
cultures in the world, and it is normal to them there, if not normal
and cruel etc here. I guess something to do with who is more
civilized.
> I did miss most of MASH as I had better things to do, it ws on from
> about 1970 to 1981 over here, much longer than the Korean war.
> It was Pete who suggested that the character of Corporal Klinger
> might upset certain minorities, which is illegal over here.
> I think he has a point.
As my name is Pete. Well Pete VE3WBZ never said that. Corporal
Klinger was looking for a way to get home to the USA, away from the
war, so he dressed "odd" and the base commander and others just
realized the fact. He didn't shy from his duties on the show.
Jammie Farr who played Corp. Klinger did a really great job on the
character.
> I have never bothered going to the BBC site because, if some of
> the really good series like the original Casanova and The Cleopatras,
> aren't shown on broadcast TV, the won't be available on the interenet.
I guess something rattled the laws and thus they are not to be viewed
or allowed to be viewed.
> I see your problem, I once tried connecting and trying to watch certain
> episodes of Babylon 5, which I have most of, only to run into a message
> saying I was in the wrong part of the world. It is only in N. America for
> some reason so some BBC stuff is probably not allowed outside the UK.
Same here...oh well.
> Long waffle - you can wake up now.
Thats ok I have something to add, I got this evening...
> 73 - Ian, G0TEZ @ GB7CIP
>
> Message timed: 15:53 on 2013-Feb-03 GMT
> Message sent using WinPack-Telnet V6.80
>
> [End of Message #84141 from G0TEZ]
Found out about that Mosquito < sliding the bombs > operation from
WW2. The operation was directed at the Amiens Prison in Amiens France.
Info came from UK. Lots of it, and even some other interesting stuff
in another area.
Anyhow...Good night..and good morning... 73 Pete VE3WBZ
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