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G4EBT > BBS 05.05.09 02:59l 160 Lines 5575 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
BID : BA0697G4EBT
Read: GUEST
Subj: Re: Packet Seems Alive to Me!
Path: IZ3LSV<IK2XDE<DB0RES<ON0AR<GB7FCR
Sent: 090504/2004Z @:GB7FCR.#16.GBR.EU #:27028 [Blackpool] FBB-7.03a $:BA0697G4
From: G4EBT@GB7FCR.#16.GBR.EU
To : BBS@WW
Tony, G0WFV wrote:-
> G4EBT Said:
> Some who purport to be "on packet" are about as visible
> as Lord Lucan.
Thanks for reading my bull and for your comments Tony.
Tony:-
> Definition of being "on packet"
> Is it...
> a) The ability to connect to the packet network (be that via RF or
> t'interweb) and peruse the bulletins, but not necessarily send a great
> deal.
I guess that defines most 'users'.
Basically, 'packet SWLs' - the raft of invisible 'users'. But they're not
'communicators' - communication is a two-way process. I'd say they were
passive rather than active.
It's their choice of course, but if everyone just listened on HF and
no-one transmitted, how would that be? It's only because packet isn't in
real time that it survives at all, or it would be like 2M/70cM - the Marie
Celeste of amateur radio.
Hardly a week goes by that yet another sysop writes:
"this BBS is closing down due to lack of users and lack of use".
> b) Item a) plus a few SPs to a few friends who are also "on packet"
> just to keep in touch now and again when 80m isn't quite making the
> trip.
I dare say e-mail has largely supplanted that. It's private, whereas
packet leaks like a seive, and attachments are difficult. I get lots of
e-mails every day from people I've met on packet.
> c) Items a) and b) plus actively contributing to the bulletin
> discussions that are ongoing.
I think that's the more balanced approach.
> d) Items a) through c) plus send out 3 or 4 useful bulletins to seed
> interest (thanks G8MNY - some of your technical bulls do catch my
> attention and are appreciated, which I believe is the point!)
Agreed, but here's how John, G8MNY, ends all of his bulls:
>Why Don't U send an interesting bul?
>73 de John G8MNY @ GB7CIP
Well?
Why don't a few more try?
> We don't all have to send multiple 6k bulls every day to be "on
> packet", David!
Nor do I, for the most part.
Too many "on" packet don't send bulls about anything. A few more "multiple
senders" might stave off yet another BBS, then another, from closing down.
The person who - in Jan 2009 wrote the recently re-issued bull to which I
responded wrote: "Packet [in Sheffield] seems alive to me" had never been
heard of before or since on packet. Nor has anyone else from Sheffield for
a very long time. But yes, they might as busy 'on packet' as a hive of
bees, unnoticed by the rest of us.
Or not.
As to "multiple 6k bulls every day", it's a fallacy.
True, some of my bulls on the more serious topics have been 6k, but that
isn't the norm - not that it would matter if every bull on packet was 6k+.
In the last couple of days the largest bulls on packet (none mine) have
been:
26.2k
25.1k
17.4k
15.6k
14.7k
9.0k
So what?
I don't have a problem with that and no-one else seems to, so why big deal
about 6k bulls? The size, topic and sender are evident from the header -
read or ignore.
Unless of course, someone has an obsessive compulsion, as one individual
did, to open bulls on topics about which he was neither knowledgeable of
nor interested in, from someone he disliked to the point of loathing, [me
that is], just to make a nuisance of himself.
It always puzzled me why anyone should do that, but then I'm not a doctor.
Here are my last 25 bulls, which cover 17 topics.
Eight are over 5k (this will be #9:-).
None are 6k or over, and 14 are below 3k:
21-Apr B$ 1870 TECH @GBR Re: NimH charger circuit..??
22-Apr B$ 2124 CODGER @GBR Re: Hand petrol pumps 'BYT
22-Apr B$ 5610 TODAY @WW Re: Red Baron + Brit pilots
23-Apr B$ 1433 CODGER @GBR Re: Petrol - 1973/2009 'HUD
23-Apr B$ 4850 AMRAD @WW Re: 70,000 uk ham licenses 2009
23-Apr B$ 603 TECH @GBR Free PCB software
24-Apr B$ 5743 TODAY @WW Re: St George's Day.
27-Apr B$ 2804 WOIDS @GBR Re: "'FTD'ing" - a new word?
27-Apr B$ 382 GOOGLE @GBR Today on Google - Morse's Bday
27-Apr B$ 1636 TRIVIA @GBR Anzac Day DX event
28-Apr B$ 5477 TRUE @GBR Re: G0MF(Dubya) wrote:-
30-Apr B$ 4420 CBERS @GBR Re: Lawless CB - G0TEZ
30-Apr B$ 4764 ABUSE @GBR CB and anarchic criminality
30-Apr B$ 5759 WOIDS @GBR re: TEZ's phantasies, GM7HUD
02-May B$ 2237 CODGER @GBR Re: Hand petrol pumps 'BYT
02-May B$ 2589 RADIO4 @GBR Re: One Chord Wonders play?
02-May B$ 2086 WOIDS @GBR Re: We're all suspects now 'EBT
02-May B$ 3806 WOIDS @GBR Re: "'ebt'ing" - G0TEZ
03-May B$ 2352 PIRACY @GBR Software Piracy Raids - Hull
03-May B$ 2290 HUMOUR @GBR Re: The Hall of Shame
03-May B$ 1393 BBS @WW Re: Packet Seems Alive to Me!
03-May B$ 1087 MUSIC @GBR Re: Is this the best record ever?
03-May B$ 5202 PACKET @WW Re: Old Bulls - G4IVD ?
03-May B$ 5400 SEASON @WW Re: Autumn days de ZL1ABS
04-May B$ 5764 WW1 @WW Oz Cemetery at Fromelles, Fr.
About 75k in total over a 13 day period - an average of 3k per bull.
They look ok to me.
I rarely write to ww any more. Only one of the above - the last one,
was initiated by me to ww. The rest were responses by me to ww bulls,
as is this one.
There you go - almost 6k, to up my batting average:-)
I'll keep on not minding.
Best wishes
David, G4EBT @ GB7FCR
Cottingham, East Yorkshire.
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