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1. Hello to my fellow ATVers in the United Kingdom N6IFU    
    From: ian abel


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1. Hello to my fellow ATVers in the United Kingdom N6IFU
    Posted by: "ian abel" g3zhi@hotmail.com g3zhi
    Date: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:14 am ((PST))

Hello to my fellow ATVers in the United Kingdom;N6IFU
 
I have been visiting the GB3GG repeater system for their net each 
Friday via their Internet camstream. I have found it most enjoyable 
but the communication for video is only one way. And audio is not 
available from us here in the United States and we are limited to 
typing in a chat room. There are some limitations from the camstreams 
as well but I think I have a way we can make a two way Ham Radio 
style contact and have two way video/audio.            Here is my 
idea.
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Here in the U.S. I will log on to your GB3GG camstream. I will then 
transmit the live feed coming from the GB3GG camstream in the U.K. to 
the ATN repeater network. This will allow all the Hams here in 
Southern California to see your camstream. (To see what the coverage 
of the ATN repeater network is go to www.atn-tv.org or you can log on 
to the camstream (www.ac6rb.com then click on ATV) and there is a map 
on one of the ID screens that shows the repeater locations.) 
Basically the coverage is from Simi Valley which is southeastern edge 
of Ventura County all the way south through Los Angeles and Orange 
County close to San Diego as well as out east into parts of the 
desert.
 
Because your net is at 2100 UTC which is 1:00 PM here in Southern 
California there will be a limited number of ATVers here, maybe only 
five or six. But that is a good start to work out this experiment.
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For you guys in the U.K., will be able to watch and communicate on 
the GB3GG repeater to us here in the U.S. as well as between each 
other there in the U.K.. But if your ATVers can also logon to the 
camstream coming from Southern California everyone there will be able 
to see and hear everyone here in the U.S. as well as everyone from 
the U.K..
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I know that the GB3GG camstream doesn't have audio at this time and 
we will have to wait until it is operational. And here on the ATN 
network the 2.4 GHz link from Oat Mountain to the hub of the repeater 
network is tenuous and has had problems in the resent past. So some 
things need to come together before we attempt this experiment.
 
There is a time delay that the camstreams have that we will have to 
deal with, so we will have to be patient as we attempt this 
experiment. I have experienced anywhere from 15 to 20 sec. to as long 
as 90 sec. time delay depending on how many people are logged on to 
the camstream. 
 
Here in Southern California, we have had as many as 9 people on the 
camstream and they were still able to receive a picture. Last week 
there were 4 people logged onto the GB3GG camstream and anyone else 
logging on wasn't able to see a picture.  
 
I think it would be a a lot of fun to work out some kind 
of "protocol" to do this "RF to Internet to RF", link work. After we 
work out a protocol we can then use it with any camstream from an ATV 
repeater anywhere. And besides that it would be great to write about 
and put in my newsletter.
 
Please let me know your thoughts and if you guys are interested. As 
well as any other ideas you might have or already done in linking ATV 
repeaters.
 
There was a Ham on the GB3GG net last week that mentioned linking 
repeaters to your own. I think it was G0ATW but I might be wrong. If 
whomever it was, would like to send me some comments 
regarding "linking", I am very interested.
 
I am willing to go one step further and offer to do a one on one test 
with the described program above and make the first test. The ATVer 
on the GB3GG repeater would need to have a marking pen and paper to 
communicate since the audio isn't operational. But we could see how 
well it works.
 
 
73's
N6IFU 
Bryon 





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