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Today's Topics:
1. NEED CONTACT WITH MAINE AND RHODE ISLAND FOR W.A.S AWARD!
(DAVID BIRD)
2. Re: Cross boom question (Edward Cole)
3. Re: NEED CONTACT WITH MAINE AND RHODE ISLAND FOR W.A.S AWARD!
(Roger Kolakowski)
4. Re: Cross boom question (Greg D.)
5. AO-51 is down (Andrew Glasbrenner)
6. NAVSPASUR Fence - Still VHF? (Rich Dailey)
7. SATPC32 (Allen Vinegar)
8. K5E by the numbers (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
9. Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite (JoAnne Maenpaa)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:20:00 -0700
From: DAVID BIRD <kc7uss@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] NEED CONTACT WITH MAINE AND RHODE ISLAND FOR W.A.S
AWARD!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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HI ALL! MY NAME IS DAVID, KC7USS. I AM TRYING TO EARN THE ARRL W.A.S
AWARD. I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE STATES TO GO! THE TWO I NEED IS MAINE AND
RHODE ISLAND.IF YOU CAN HELP PLESE E-MAIL ME AT kc7uss@xxxxx.xxx
THANKS ALL!!! 73 KC7USS
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:06:34 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cross boom question
To: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <w0sat@xxx.xxx>,
<kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <hislens@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <200907260606.n6Q66Y9J064053@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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That may be OK in country that does not
experience snow. I built a 437-MHz Helix using a
wooden closet pole (painted) and it only lasted
two seasons before the pole split from the
wieight of the snow. Wood makes a good stiffener
but really does not have the strength that fiberglass has.
But one need not worry mounting CP satellite
x-yagis on a metal crossboom. WA5VJB analyzed
and tested the concept proving that mounted in
the X confiuration with cables dressed tight to
the antenna and crossbooms negilible effects are
seen (at least for satellite class operations).
73, Ed - KL7UW
I have used a metal crossboom for years.
At 02:24 PM 7/25/2009, Greg D. wrote:
>Wooden pole for me. Just a regular closet pole
>from the lumber yard. I've never been impressed
>by the structural qualities of plastic pipe, and
>putting a wooden dowel up the middle of one
>still leaves much of the structural
>responsibility with the plastic on the
>outside. So, why not make it all wood? Heck,
>if it can support my wife's wardrobe, it should
>be able to handle a couple of antennas :-). How long of a span do you need?
>
>Greg KO6TH
>
>
> > From: W0SAT@xxx.xxx
> > To: kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx hislens@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:14:20 -0500
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cross boom question
> >
> >
> > Amen: I have been aluminum cross booms for several years now.
> > Jerry w0sat
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> > Behalf Of Jim Jerzycke
> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:36 PM
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Kevin Groth
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cross boom question
> >
> > This has been gone over a zillion times.
> > Short answer; Mount them in an "X" configuration and don't worry about it.
> > http://www.g6lvb.com/fibermetalboom.htm
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, Kevin Groth <hislens@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > From: Kevin Groth <hislens@xxxxx.xxx>
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Cross boom question
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 1:47 PM
> >
> > I have just finished building a set of 2m and 440mhz circular polarized
> > beams to work the birds. (tired of standing in the heat and cold
outside!)
> > I tried to save a little bit of money by
> building a wood dowel inserted into
> > a sched 40 uv resistant pipe. I hung the beams on either side of the
cross
> > boom and it sags way too much and is ugly. I thought about using some
> > eyebolts and some nylon cording for support to the vertical mast, but I'm
> > trying to keep everything as clean as possible for the neighbors. I would
> > really rather not have to purchase a
> fiberglass satellite boom commercially,
> > but if I have to, I will.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a bunch of 1.75" aluminum pipe that would be more than able to
> > support most anything I plan to add to the antenna collection in the
future
> > (1.2 and 2.4 ghz). My question is how much
> of a difference would it make if
> > I mounted the 2m and 440 beams in an X position to the aluminum beam? I
> > have read some short answers that it would minimize the swr issue, but
> > haven't really found an answer that I am comfortable with. Also, how
would
> > that effect a later addition like a 1.2 or 2.4 ghz antenna.? My current
> > antennas are a KLM 2m-14c and a 435-40cx, both circular polarized and
> > switchable RH and LH polarization. Does anyone have any experience with a
> > metal crossboom?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > N9EME
> >
> > Fort Worth, TX
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:59:10 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NEED CONTACT WITH MAINE AND RHODE ISLAND FOR
W.A.S AWARD!
To: "DAVID BIRD" <kc7uss@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <00f801ca0db6$323937a0$0300a8c0@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi David...
Your CAPS KEY seems to be stuck on...maybe you should look into getting a
new keyboard...
Roger
WA1KAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID BIRD" <kc7uss@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] NEED CONTACT WITH MAINE AND RHODE ISLAND FOR W.A.S
AWARD!
> HI ALL! MY NAME IS DAVID, KC7USS. I AM TRYING TO EARN THE ARRL W.A.S
> AWARD. I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE STATES TO GO! THE TWO I NEED IS MAINE AND
> RHODE ISLAND.IF YOU CAN HELP PLESE E-MAIL ME AT kc7uss@xxxxx.xxx
> THANKS ALL!!! 73 KC7USS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:44:27 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cross boom question
To: <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <w0sat@xxx.xxx>, <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <hislens@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W2660E2805B59E55B638FBDA9170@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Hi Ed,
I am fortunate in the weather dimension, especially compared to your neck of
the woods. My pole has been up, untreated, for about 10 years now, and it's
starting to show signs of its age. Summer project to rebuild the array, as
it's gotten quite a bit out of balance as new antennas have been added and old
small ones swapped out for bigger ones.
If I had the steel pole, I'd probably use it. The wood is nice in one way,
though; things clamped to it tend to stay where they are, as the teeth dig in
nicely.
Greg KO6TH
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:06:34 -0800
> To: ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxxx w0sat@xxx.xxxx kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-
bb@xxxxx.xxxx hislens@xxxxx.xxx
> From: kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Cross boom question
>
> That may be OK in country that does not
> experience snow. I built a 437-MHz Helix using a
> wooden closet pole (painted) and it only lasted
> two seasons before the pole split from the
> wieight of the snow. Wood makes a good stiffener
> but really does not have the strength that fiberglass has.
>
> But one need not worry mounting CP satellite
> x-yagis on a metal crossboom. WA5VJB analyzed
> and tested the concept proving that mounted in
> the X confiuration with cables dressed tight to
> the antenna and crossbooms negilible effects are
> seen (at least for satellite class operations).
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> I have used a metal crossboom for years.
>
> At 02:24 PM 7/25/2009, Greg D. wrote:
>
> >Wooden pole for me. Just a regular closet pole
> >from the lumber yard. I've never been impressed
> >by the structural qualities of plastic pipe, and
> >putting a wooden dowel up the middle of one
> >still leaves much of the structural
> >responsibility with the plastic on the
> >outside. So, why not make it all wood? Heck,
> >if it can support my wife's wardrobe, it should
> >be able to handle a couple of antennas :-). How long of a span do you
need?
> >
> >Greg KO6TH
> >
> >
> > > From: W0SAT@xxx.xxx
> > > To: kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx hislens@xxxxx.xxx
> > > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:14:20 -0500
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cross boom question
> > >
> > >
> > > Amen: I have been aluminum cross booms for several years now.
> > > Jerry w0sat
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> > > Behalf Of Jim Jerzycke
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:36 PM
> > > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Kevin Groth
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cross boom question
> > >
> > > This has been gone over a zillion times.
> > > Short answer; Mount them in an "X" configuration and don't worry about
it.
> > > http://www.g6lvb.com/fibermetalboom.htm
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, Kevin Groth <hislens@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Kevin Groth <hislens@xxxxx.xxx>
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Cross boom question
> > > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 1:47 PM
> > >
> > > I have just finished building a set of 2m and 440mhz circular polarized
> > > beams to work the birds. (tired of standing in the heat and cold
outside!)
> > > I tried to save a little bit of money by
> > building a wood dowel inserted into
> > > a sched 40 uv resistant pipe. I hung the beams on either side of the
cross
> > > boom and it sags way too much and is ugly. I thought about using some
> > > eyebolts and some nylon cording for support to the vertical mast, but
I'm
> > > trying to keep everything as clean as possible for the neighbors. I
would
> > > really rather not have to purchase a
> > fiberglass satellite boom commercially,
> > > but if I have to, I will.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a bunch of 1.75" aluminum pipe that would be more than able to
> > > support most anything I plan to add to the antenna collection in the
future
> > > (1.2 and 2.4 ghz). My question is how much
> > of a difference would it make if
> > > I mounted the 2m and 440 beams in an X position to the aluminum beam? I
> > > have read some short answers that it would minimize the swr issue, but
> > > haven't really found an answer that I am comfortable with. Also, how
would
> > > that effect a later addition like a 1.2 or 2.4 ghz antenna.? My current
> > > antennas are a KLM 2m-14c and a 435-40cx, both circular polarized and
> > > switchable RH and LH polarization. Does anyone have any experience with
a
> > > metal crossboom?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > N9EME
> > >
> > > Fort Worth, TX
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
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> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it
now.
>
>http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_ML
OGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1
> >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:15:47 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 is down
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A32E43321DE444CE838A60004EA00ACA@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
It appears that AO-51 is down as of ~800Z this morning. Please standby until
we notify that operations have been restored.
73, Drew G/KO4MA/P
AMSAT-NA VP Ops
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:16:52 -0400
From: Rich Dailey <richdailey@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] NAVSPASUR Fence - Still VHF?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20090726080233.023d5940@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
In doing some historical research, I came across a tidbit of info about
Raytheon being
awarded a contract in 2002 to convert the NAVSPASUR fence transmitters to s-
band.
Does the system still use 216.98 mhz, or is it strictly s-band now?
A related question - given the huge amounts of radiated energy on 216 mhz from
the system, has the effects
of fundamental overload ever been experienced by any of our amateur satellites
when "crossing the
fence"? If so, could it be a contributing factor to the operational stability
of a "marginally operational" satellite,
such as AO-7? Would be an interesting observation, if they are still using
vhf, that is.
(Google search terms: NAVSPASUR)
Rich, N8UX
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:07:40 -0400
From: "Allen Vinegar" <tokens@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <5326FC6E974A4BD7B3DA098EBFB07118@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I was in the middle of a contact on FO29 when I got repetitive message boxes
stating the following:
Zugriffsverletzung bei Adresse 00405DFC in Modul 'SatPC32.exe'. Lesen von
Adresse 00C0C0C0
The program froze while this was going on.
Any ideas?
Al W8KHP
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:28:21 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] K5E by the numbers
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<072620091428.6882.4A6C68050002F56300001AE222243651029B0A02D2089B9A019C0
4040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hey Everyone,
Here is a more detailed summary of the K5E Satellite Special Event, which
celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission to the moon.
Four operators made contacts over the course of the special event as K5E ?
AA5PK, K8YSE, N3TL and WA4NVM. We made 338 contacts with 182 different
stations.
Those totals do not include two automated responses sent directly to K5E
(being operated by N3TL) in response to direct packets sent to RS0ISS-3. The
ISS radio confirmed a direct contact and generated its own direct response,
but no one was manning the station aboard the ISS. Still, it was pretty cool
to get a direct response from the ISS on two different occasions.
Here?s a look at how those 338 contacts occurred:
By Satellite ? in descending order:
AO-51: 126
AO-27: 53
SO-50: 51
FO-29: 50
VO-52: 29
AO-7: 28
ISS: 1
By Mode ? in descending order:
FM: 230
SSB: 103
CW: 2
Cross Mode (one station used CW, the other used SSB): 2
Packet: 1
Geography
K5E logged contacts with stations in 42 states, four Canadian provinces and
five additional DX entities.
States: It?s easier to list those K5E did NOT log ? Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana, North Dakota, Nebraska, New Hampshire and Oklahoma. The other 42
states are in the log.
Canadian provinces: British Columbia, Manitoba, Ontario and Quebec.
DX entities: Colombia, Honduras, Mexico, Puerto Rico and Venezuela.
Not all of the K5E operators logged the grid squares of the stations they
worked. Here, specifically, I refer to myself (N3TL). It?s safe to say that
the operation made contacts with more than 100 grids among the 182 stations.
There are 51 grids accounted for just in the states, provinces and DX entities
worked.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
K5E - The 40th Anniversiary Apollo 11 Satellte Special Event
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:42:26 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite
To: <david.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002a01ca0dff$4c4fcc00$e4ef6400$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello David, and everyone,
> AMSAT-UK has announced a new amateur satellite project - FUNcube
> ... received major initial funding from the Radio Communications
> Foundation (RCF)
First, congratulations to AMSAT-UK on your exciting new project!
This is an excellent example of the premise that AMSAT needs to create a
mission that excites possible funding sources ... with a positive side
effect that Amateur Radio gets to use a new linear transponder in orbit.
Well done!
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
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