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Today's Topics:
1. Apollo 11 transmission on AO-51 tonight
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
2. Appolo 11 special event (Luc Leblanc)
3. Re: Moon Landing Special Event (Mike McMahan)
4. FM25 - Cape Hatteras National Seashore (Albert Jagnow)
5. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (Edward Cole)
6. Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance (Reicher, James)
7. Re: AO-51 message + SSTV (Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG])
8. Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
9. Re: AO-51 message + SSTV (Andrew Glasbrenner)
10. I: Re: AO-51 message + SSTV (Francesco Grappi)
11. Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance (Reicher, James)
12. Fwd: Re: Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (Edward Cole)
13. Re: AO-51 message + SSTV (Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG])
14. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (STeve Andre')
15. Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (STeve Andre')
16. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (Joe)
17. Moon Landing a Russian report (john heath)
18. Re: [suitsat2] Lunar Landing 40th Anniversary
(White, Rosalie, K1STO)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:09:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Apollo 11 transmission on AO-51 tonight
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi!
I was able to hear the transmission on two passes tonight
(0000 and 0139 UTC). The first pass was a tough one to hear,
as I was driving on US-6 between I-70 and Provo near the
DM49/DN40 grid boundary, with lots of rocks and mountains
all around me. I could hear the middle 3 or 4 minutes of
that pass with little difficulty using my IC-T7H HT and the
Larsen 2m/70cm mobile whip on the roof of my truck. For the
later pass at 0139 UTC, I was using my normal FM satellite
station (IC-2720H with Elk Antennas 2m/70cm log periodic)
outside the motel I'm in tonight located in DM49bq.
I recorded the 0139 UTC pass, since I did not get my laptop
set up to receive the SSTV signals in real time. I have not
fed the SSTV audio into my laptop yet, but will do that in
the next day or so to see the picture. The four audio
recordings were all very appropriate for the transmission,
and I'm sure the photo will be as well - when I get to see
it from my recording.
It has been nice to see the satellite activity commemorating
this event over the past few days - VE3MOON, K5E, and the
AO-51 transmission this evening. I've had the chance to work
both of those special-event stations while on the road, and
will appreciate receiving those QSLs.
Glad to see radio- and satellite-related chatter return to the
-BB. Good night, and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK - Nephi, Utah
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:23:48 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Appolo 11 special event
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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I got a good recording of on one pass but the SSTV Robot 36 was slanted with
the same setup i used for the ISS and AO-51 past SSTV session?
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:33:46 -0400
From: Mike McMahan <mmcmahan@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Moon Landing Special Event
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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<a055080f0907201733ra7e6dbfvde592e97aead155a@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Excellent job control team. Greetings from EM79 using a handheld, and
digital recorder without a cable I was able to copy and record the SSTV
along with the voice message on a 28 degree pass. Played the SSTV data back
through MMSSTV, and got several identifiable images. Needless to say a
pleasant surprise this evening.
Again Thanks to all involved for a wonderful 40th anniversary memento.
73
KC9NXP
Mike McMahan
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:19 PM, <kc8ran@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Ditto on the 0000Z pass from EN91. Good copy on the SSTV image on a 20
> degree elevation pass. Well Done, Echo! Well Done Control Team!
>
> Joe KC8RAN
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:51 PM , John Marranca, Jr wrote:
>
> > Great signals during the 2220z pass over FN02. Many thanks to the
> > Control Team once again!
> >
> > John KB2HSH
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________
> >
> >
> > John Marranca, Jr
> > PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
> > BN Systems, Inc
> > Orchard Park, NY
> > (716)972-2006
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:51:18 -0500
From: "Albert Jagnow" <albert-jagnow@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM25 - Cape Hatteras National Seashore
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Anyone who worked me last week on AO-51 from one of two locations in FM25 Cape
Hatteras National Seashore, North Carolina can just drop me an email.
<mycall>@xxxx.xxx I will send a card. I will try to create a nice card from
some of my photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40642917@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I don't know how common a grid is FM25. I can say it is the best location I
have ever worked satellite. Planning to return next summer, but for now I am
back in EN41.
--
Albert Jagnow
N0PFT
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:52:08 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <200907210652.n6L6q8wM072548@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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>
>LeRoy,
>
>I'm not sure how you can have a source other than NASA, other than two hams
>who made independant recordings of Apollo transmissions. In 1971 (summer
>issue) a QST article talks of Dick Knadle(sp?) KRIW who got some, and another
>ham, I believe W4HHK received signals as well.
>
>I'd also bet the Russian space agency has stuff.
>
>Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you have questions about any
>"fakery" of moon landings, find the Myth Busters TV show. They did a
*really*
>good job of debunking several myths about how things were faked.
>
>I do not find this discussion OT for Amsat-bb, because this affects us. It
>erodes the effort of tens of thousands of technical people, and has ripple
>effects for the USA, far beyond the original topic.
>
>--STeve Andre'
>wb8wsf en82
>_______________________________________________
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Steve you can add my witness of the Lunar orbiter signal on S-band
received on a ten foot comm dish that my supervisor with JPL set up
in his yard using a diode mixer and a microwave signal generator for
LO. The signal exhibited expected Doppler shift and every 20-minutes
or so it dropped out (occulted by the Moon as the orbiter orbited
behind). This was not Apollo-11 but one of the other missions
afterward, to memory (long time ago - 1971). We both worked at
Goldstone tracking facility back then. We only detected the carrier
since the dish was insufficient size for recovering the modulated signal.
73, Ed - KL7UW (then K8MWA/K6)
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:57:53 -0500
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<95ADAAE74104344D9B6F961E4DAD65980813E06D@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
An example of this would be WB4APR, who uses Amateur Radio to teach
satellites to the midshipmen at Annapolis.
73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak.
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:14:12 -0000
From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance
To: "Timothy J. Salo" <salo@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <652DBC3397E9492187A9C0CF5AE0E27C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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reply-type=original
97.113 (5) (c) A control operator may accept compensation as an incident
of
a teaching position during periods of time when an amateur station is
used
by that teacher as part of classroom instruction at an educational
insitution.
73,
John
KD6OZH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy J. Salo" <salo@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 17:42 UTC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance
>>> Related to Q2 & Q5 (compensation):
>>> * As university staff, can I transmit to the CubeSat, or is my
>>> salary considered compensation?
>>>
>>> * Is the refurbishment of a club ground station (man hours,
>>> equipment repair/purchase) considered compensation?
>
> These are very important questions. I think it is also
> important that we have a shared understanding of the answers,
> rather than private opinions.
>
> I suggest that the researcher also approach the ARRL for an
> opinion. My suspicion is that AMSAT and the ARRL will provide
> conservative (and unofficial) answers to these questions. It
> is much safer to say "no, that's prohibited" than "yes".
>
> In my view, this may be a question that we want to approach
> the FCC with. I suspect that, if the question is properly
> framed, the FCC might be more inclined to find this acceptable
> than either AMSAT or the ARRL.
>
> -tjs
>
> Clint Bradford wrote:
>> Can an AMSAT officer please privately reply to me regarding this
email
>> inquiry? Many thanks.
>>
>> A gentleman is considering a CubeSat mission for weather research,
and
>> needs answers to his inquiry after reading the AMSAT FAQ regarding
>> using ham frequencies ...
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:39:39 -0700
From: "Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <9f92dbe314bc8e6a6777c84e142e45e0@xxx.xxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Nothing heard on the 13:17 UTC pass over VU. Is the SSTV / Messages still
operational on AO-51
73's
Nitin [VU3TYG]
--------- Original Message --------
From: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: 'Amsat-Bb@xxxxx. Org' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
Date: 07/19/09 12:12 PM"
> The message and SSTV image will be "streaming" Monday evening.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:50:41 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance
To: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A65C7B1.7080409@xxxxx.xxx>
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And an excellent job he does too, with many spinoffs made available to the
amateur community.
Reicher, James wrote:
> An example of this would be WB4APR, who uses Amateur Radio to teach
> satellites to the midshipmen at Annapolis.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:53:19 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
To: "Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <36E83689A0984514BF982E79E93BA1F6@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
The event is over. If you'd like to hear the audio I'll try to get it posted
online somewhere.
73, Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
> Nothing heard on the 13:17 UTC pass over VU. Is the SSTV / Messages still
> operational on AO-51
>
> 73's
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: 'Amsat-Bb@xxxxx. Org' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
> Date: 07/19/09 12:12 PM"
>
>> The message and SSTV image will be "streaming" Monday evening.
>>
>> Alan
>> WA4SCA
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
> ________________________________________________
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:54:48 +0200
From: "Francesco Grappi" <f.grappi@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] I: Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000001ca0a0a$d0318f20$7094ad60$@xxxxxx@xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Nitin VU3TYG,
The special event on AO-51 with voice message and SSTV was
Yesterday 20 July.
73"
Frank IW4DVZ
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Per
> conto di Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]
> Inviato: marted? 21 luglio 2009 15.40
> A: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
>
> Nothing heard on the 13:17 UTC pass over VU. Is the SSTV / Messages
> still
> operational on AO-51
>
> 73's
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: 'Amsat-Bb@xxxxx. Org' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
> Date: 07/19/09 12:12 PM"
>
> > The message and SSTV image will be "streaming" Monday
> evening.
> >
> > Alan
> > WA4SCA
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> >
> >
>
> ________________________________________________
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> author.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:02:05 -0500
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance
To: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<95ADAAE74104344D9B6F961E4DAD65980813E0E8@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Agreed, Nigel!
A few years back, Bob was kind enough to give my wife and me a brief
tour of his lab on a rainy August day. Among the many amazing things we
saw was the early development of PCSat 2, bread-boarded into a roasting
pan. This was at least a couple years before it made it up to the ISS.
73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF [mailto:nigel@xxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:51 AM
To: Reicher, James
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance
And an excellent job he does too, with many spinoffs made available to
the amateur community.
Reicher, James wrote:
> An example of this would be WB4APR, who uses Amateur Radio to teach
> satellites to the midshipmen at Annapolis.
------------------------------
Message: 12
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:12:46 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Re: Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: "amsat-bb-amsat.org" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <200907211412.n6LECk2v091770@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:52:08 -0800
>To: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
>
>>
>>LeRoy,
>>
>>I'm not sure how you can have a source other than NASA, other than two hams
>>who made independant recordings of Apollo transmissions. In 1971 (summer
>>issue) a QST article talks of Dick Knadle(sp?) KRIW who got some, and
another
>>ham, I believe W4HHK received signals as well.
>>------snip
>
>Steve you can add my witness of the Lunar orbiter signal on S-band
>received on a ten foot comm dish that my supervisor with JPL set up
>in his yard using a diode mixer and a microwave signal generator for
>LO. The signal exhibited expected Doppler shift and every
>20-minutes or so it dropped out (occulted by the Moon as the orbiter
>orbited behind). This was not Apollo-11 but one of the other
>missions afterward, to memory (long time ago - 1971). We both
>worked at Goldstone tracking facility back then. We only detected
>the carrier since the dish was insufficient size for recovering the
>modulated signal.
>
>73, Ed - KL7UW (then K8MWA/K6)
Ed, I completely forgot to discuss the reception of the Lunar
orbiter. Yes, we used an old TS-408/U (military version of a hp 608A
signal generator) a polaplexer, and Bill Burns 8-foot trailer mounted
dish. We got good S/N ratio on the carrier, but couldn't recover
information from the sidebands. If I remember correctly, the downlink
was about 2287 MHz. The downlink/uplink ratio was 240/221, Milt
Brockman's ratio we used in the DSN since the L-band days. 73, Dick K6HIJ
So there you have it.
73, Ed - KL7UW
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:30:39 -0700
From: "Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Nitin Muttin
[VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <a14c8e360898f531dc62e785a939ef77@xxx.xxx.x.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Drew,
Thanks for the update. Please upload so we can hear the message.
73's
Nitin
VU3TYG
--------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG] <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
Date: 07/20/09 07:50 PM"
> The event is over. If you'd like to hear the audio I'll try to get it
posted
> online somewhere.
>
> 73, Drew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:39 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
>
>
> > Nothing heard on the 13:17 UTC pass over VU. Is the SSTV / Messages
still
> > operational on AO-51
> >
> > 73's
> > Nitin [VU3TYG]
> >
> >
> > --------- Original Message --------
> > From: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
> > To: 'Amsat-Bb@xxxxx. Org' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 message + SSTV
> > Date: 07/19/09 12:12 PM"
> >
> >> The message and SSTV image will be "streaming"
Monday evening.
> >>
> >> Alan
> >> WA4SCA
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >>
> >
> > ________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
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>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:36:25 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <200907211236.26338.andres@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 02:52:08 Edward Cole wrote:
> >LeRoy,
> >
> >I'm not sure how you can have a source other than NASA, other than two
> > hams who made independant recordings of Apollo transmissions. In 1971
> > (summer issue) a QST article talks of Dick Knadle(sp?) KRIW who got some,
> > and another ham, I believe W4HHK received signals as well.
> >
> >I'd also bet the Russian space agency has stuff.
> >
> >Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you have questions about any
> >"fakery" of moon landings, find the Myth Busters TV show. They did a
> > *really* good job of debunking several myths about how things were faked.
> >
> >I do not find this discussion OT for Amsat-bb, because this affects us.
> > It erodes the effort of tens of thousands of technical people, and has
> > ripple effects for the USA, far beyond the original topic.
> >
> >--STeve Andre'
> >wb8wsf en82
[snip]
> Steve you can add my witness of the Lunar orbiter signal on S-band
> received on a ten foot comm dish that my supervisor with JPL set up
> in his yard using a diode mixer and a microwave signal generator for
> LO. The signal exhibited expected Doppler shift and every 20-minutes
> or so it dropped out (occulted by the Moon as the orbiter orbited
> behind). This was not Apollo-11 but one of the other missions
> afterward, to memory (long time ago - 1971). We both worked at
> Goldstone tracking facility back then. We only detected the carrier
> since the dish was insufficient size for recovering the modulated signal.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW (then K8MWA/K6)
Wow... I have never talked with someone who heard "raw" signals from
Apollo before. It must have been an amazing experience. So not quite
enough to decode it, but enough to get the carrier. I'm sure noise has
never been as exciting, before or since. ;-)
Thanks for this.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en82
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:45:40 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <200907211245.40335.andres@xxx.xxx>
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On Tuesday 21 July 2009 10:12:46 Edward Cole wrote:
> >Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:52:08 -0800
> >To: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> >From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
> >
> >>LeRoy,
> >>
> >>I'm not sure how you can have a source other than NASA, other than two
> >> hams who made independant recordings of Apollo transmissions. In 1971
> >> (summer issue) a QST article talks of Dick Knadle(sp?) KRIW who got
> >> some, and another ham, I believe W4HHK received signals as well.
> >>------snip
> >
> >Steve you can add my witness of the Lunar orbiter signal on S-band
> >received on a ten foot comm dish that my supervisor with JPL set up
> >in his yard using a diode mixer and a microwave signal generator for
> >LO. The signal exhibited expected Doppler shift and every
> >20-minutes or so it dropped out (occulted by the Moon as the orbiter
> >orbited behind). This was not Apollo-11 but one of the other
> >missions afterward, to memory (long time ago - 1971). We both
> >worked at Goldstone tracking facility back then. We only detected
> >the carrier since the dish was insufficient size for recovering the
> >modulated signal.
> >
> >73, Ed - KL7UW (then K8MWA/K6)
>
> Ed, I completely forgot to discuss the reception of the Lunar
> orbiter. Yes, we used an old TS-408/U (military version of a hp 608A
> signal generator) a polaplexer, and Bill Burns 8-foot trailer mounted
> dish. We got good S/N ratio on the carrier, but couldn't recover
> information from the sidebands. If I remember correctly, the downlink
> was about 2287 MHz. The downlink/uplink ratio was 240/221, Milt
> Brockman's ratio we used in the DSN since the L-band days. 73, Dick K6HIJ
>
> So there you have it.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
This is *really* cool. So there are some small number of hams who've
done this. Given that we on this list just learned of at least two more
receptions, I'm curious how many there are, and how many might have
some audio of their efforts. Even just a feeble carrier lurking among
the static would be a neat thing to have.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en82
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:47:08 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A65F10C.5080104@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Why does everyone continue to try to talk to this Brain dead person.
it really goes to show how the FCC has dumbed down the tests.
geez
STeve Andre' wrote:
>On Tuesday 21 July 2009 02:52:08 Edward Cole wrote:
>
>
>>>LeRoy,
>>>
>>>I'm not sure how you can have a source other than NASA, other than two
>>>hams who made independant recordings of Apollo transmissions. In 1971
>>>(summer issue) a QST article talks of Dick Knadle(sp?) KRIW who got some,
>>>and another ham, I believe W4HHK received signals as well.
>>>
>>>I'd also bet the Russian space agency has stuff.
>>>
>>>Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you have questions about any
>>>"fakery" of moon landings, find the Myth Busters TV show. They did a
>>>*really* good job of debunking several myths about how things were faked.
>>>
>>>I do not find this discussion OT for Amsat-bb, because this affects us.
>>>It erodes the effort of tens of thousands of technical people, and has
>>>ripple effects for the USA, far beyond the original topic.
>>>
>>>--STeve Andre'
>>>wb8wsf en82
>>>
>>>
>[snip]
>
>
>>Steve you can add my witness of the Lunar orbiter signal on S-band
>>received on a ten foot comm dish that my supervisor with JPL set up
>>in his yard using a diode mixer and a microwave signal generator for
>>LO. The signal exhibited expected Doppler shift and every 20-minutes
>>or so it dropped out (occulted by the Moon as the orbiter orbited
>>behind). This was not Apollo-11 but one of the other missions
>>afterward, to memory (long time ago - 1971). We both worked at
>>Goldstone tracking facility back then. We only detected the carrier
>>since the dish was insufficient size for recovering the modulated signal.
>>
>>73, Ed - KL7UW (then K8MWA/K6)
>>
>>
>
>Wow... I have never talked with someone who heard "raw" signals from
>Apollo before. It must have been an amazing experience. So not quite
>enough to decode it, but enough to get the carrier. I'm sure noise has
>never been as exciting, before or since. ;-)
>
>Thanks for this.
>
>--STeve Andre'
>wb8wsf en82
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:46:39 +0100
From: "john heath" <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Moon Landing a Russian report
To: "amsat" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi,
Just a bit of evidence for your consideration:
Valentina Tereshkova and Valery Bykovsky were in Coventry England a few years
ago and I was privilaged to be amongst the guests at a dinner held in their
honour. During the after dinner conversation they were asked about the
authenticity of the Amarican moon landings. Bykovsky said that they were
monitoring the mission and there was no doubt in their minds that it was
genuine.
73 John G7HIA
PS - I am also looking forward to some high resolution images so that we can
bury the "hoax theory" once and for all.
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:35:38 -0400
From: "White, Rosalie, K1STO" <k1sto@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [suitsat2] Lunar Landing 40th Anniversary
To: <K3IO@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <suitsat2@xxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Suitsat" <suitsat2@xxxx.xxx>
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<145372871023544E98881538F29B1DFC140476@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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This is wonderful! Great job, Steve!
73, Rosalie, K1STO
________________________________
From: Tom Clark, K3IO [mailto:tom.k3io@xxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Mon 7/20/2009 10:20 PM
To: AMSAT BB; Suitsat
Subject: [suitsat2] Lunar Landing 40th Anniversary
EE Times prepared a July 20th special edition that does a great job of telling
the Lunar Landing story from the viewpoint of a number of engineers. It can be
found here. <http://newsletter.eetimes.com/cgi-
bin4/DM/y/hBSpe0MbG1o0Zqc0HNTh0Ex>
Starting on page 42 are comments from a number of people who feel it was a
very personal event in their lives. Page 44 features comments by our own Steve
Bible, N7HPR. Thanks for voicing the sentiments that a lot of us feel, Steve.
73 de Tom, K3IO
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