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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (Gordon JC Pearce)
2.  epistomological question (andy thomas)
3. Re: FW: [BLT] University of Texas at Austin	'Picosatellite'
To Be Launched from Space Shuttle To Begin	Milestone
Small-Satellite Mission (Trevor .)
4. Re: epistomological question (andy thomas)
5. Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance (Timothy J. Salo)
6. Re: AO-51 Special event (GW1FKY@xxx.xxxx
7. Re: AO-51 Special event (David Barber)
8. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (STeve Andre')
9. Re: AO-51 Special event (Graham Shirville)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:57:28 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1248109048.4951.32.camel@xxxxx>
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On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 14:27 +0000, kd8bxp@xxx.xxx wrote:

> Point is - if only the high up know about the hoax and the
> miss-direction - then a hoax on a massive scale can be pulled off

That unfortunate physics thing gets in your way though.  How would you
build a stage large enough to film it on that could pumped down to a
hard vacuum?

There is no credible evidence that it was faked, and lots of credible
evidence that it would have been impossible to fake.

Gordon 2M0YEQ




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:03:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  epistomological question
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <406674.52526.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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on the epistomological question about the moon landings: my account is on:

http://projectapollo.co.uk/your-story/

Some people you can trust(GW1MLA, SK)

andy G0SFJ






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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:09:09 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: [BLT] University of Texas at Austin
	'Picosatellite' To Be Launched from Space Shuttle To Begin	Milestone
	Small-Satellite Mission
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Andy,

I see it's running quite high power, 1 watt output, when in Data Mode.

Would I be right in thinking the Data Mode will only be activated when it's in
range of Texas ? Presumably the 200 mw 437.325 MHz 200 mw beacon will be
available the rest of the time ?

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Mon, 20/7/09, Andrew.MacAllister@xxxxxxx.xxx
<Andrew.MacAllister@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> From: Andrew.MacAllister@xxxxxxx.xxx <Andrew.MacAllister@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [BLT] University of Texas at Austin 'Picosatellite'
To Be Launched from Space Shuttle To Begin Milestone Small-Satellite Mission
> To: blt@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Monday, 20 July, 2009, 4:29 AM
> Get ready to check out BEVO-1 later
> this week!
> Various items in BEVO-1 flew to the edge of space last year
> on BLT-24.
> 73 de Andy W5ACM
> http://www.w5acm.net
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> Sent: Sun 7/19/2009 9:01 PM
> To: MacAllister, Andrew [PROCESS/DAN/HOU]
> Subject: Re: [BLT] University of Texas at Austin
> 'Picosatellite' To Be Launched from Space Shuttle To Begin
> Milestone Small-Satellite Mission
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for the publicity on your lists. I have a website
> set up at
> http://paradigm.ae.utexas.edu/ops where amateur radio
> stations can
> send what they hear. Deployment from Shuttle Endeavor will
> occur
> tentatively at 7:27 AM CDT, July 30th.
>
> ~Jahshan
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM, <Andrew.MacAllister@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> > As seen during BLT-24 last year!
> >
> > Looking forward to the July flight of BEVO-1 and
> AggieSAT-2!
> >
> > http://www.utexas.edu/news/2009/06/09/picosatellite/
> >
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:41:45 +0000 (GMT)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: epistomological question
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Have just received AO-51 speeches and photo - photo on my website
http://www.andythomas.eu

Or did I? That is the epistomological question. How do you know?

Fundamentally you have to trust in life to get along in it.

andy G0SFJ







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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:42:45 -0500
From: "Timothy J. Salo" <salo@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Officer Assistance
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A64AC95.3010305@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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>> Related to Q2 & Q5 (compensation):
>> * As university staff, can I transmit to the CubeSat, or is my
>> salary considered compensation?
>>
>> * Is the refurbishment of a club ground station (man hours,
>> equipment repair/purchase) considered compensation?

These are very important questions.  I think it is also
important that we have a shared understanding of the answers,
rather than private opinions.

I suggest that the researcher also approach the ARRL for an
opinion.  My suspicion is that AMSAT and the ARRL will provide
conservative (and unofficial) answers to these questions.  It
is much safer to say "no, that's prohibited" than "yes".

In my view, this may be a question that we want to approach
the FCC with.  I suspect that, if the question is properly
framed, the FCC might be more inclined to find this acceptable
than either AMSAT or the ARRL.

-tjs

Clint Bradford wrote:
> Can an AMSAT officer please privately reply to me regarding this email
> inquiry? Many thanks.
>
> A gentleman is considering a CubeSat mission for weather research, and
> needs answers to his inquiry after reading the AMSAT FAQ regarding
> using ham frequencies ...




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:54:01 EDT
From: GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Special event
To: ea4dut@xxx.xxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <d4f.573708bc.37960939@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Hi all,
A perfect evening here in Wales ( UK ) for the  pass    - No wind or rain
and not to hot.
I copied the audio and SSTV just using my Kenwood  THD7 and Arrow  antenna
with excellent satisfaction.
Thanks to all involved in the project and arrangements it really made my
day.
And thanks also for the " New One" Hi!
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat -UK
Amsat NA


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:01:06 +0100
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Special event
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <5395B6B474C942A185804F4226036CF3@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Just to add my thanks to Dave and Frank for their activities this afternoon.

Brilliant!

Regards

David
G8OQW


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
Sent: 20 July 2009 18:54
To: ea4dut@xxx.xxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Special event

Hi all,
A perfect evening here in Wales ( UK ) for the  pass    - No wind or rain
and not to hot.
I copied the audio and SSTV just using my Kenwood  THD7 and Arrow  antenna
with excellent satisfaction.
Thanks to all involved in the project and arrangements it really made my
day.
And thanks also for the " New One" Hi!
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat -UK
Amsat NA
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:10:21 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <200907201410.22001.andres@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On Monday 20 July 2009 10:27:12 kd8bxp@xxx.xxx wrote:
> It wouldn't be as hard to hoax something like that at all -
>
> And yes - I know what I am going to say will make people think that I got
> the idea from a movie. I did not.
>
> But the movie Capricorn One (Which was made late 70s early 80s I believe)
> is a movie about a manned program to mars - the program had problems and it
> was decided to rather then have it fail - Nasa would fake it - there were
> problems of course with faking it as well - namely the astronauts where
> going to play along until the space craft ended up being destroyed because
> of the heat shield - so the astronauts had to be killed.  Anyways, total
> fiction - I know it I understand. But in the movie - key personnel in Nasa
> knew about the hoax - knew what was going on and miss directed the
> underlings - at one point - a man working in control runs and program on
> his own - saying the messages couldn't be coming from mars the signals were
> too close - the director (who is in on the hoax) asks which console he is
> on - and then states oh yes we have been having problems with that console
> - the next day the worker is assigned a different job - but will not let
> well enough alone - speaks to a reported (movie remember) - and is then
> eliminated -
>
> Point is - if only the high up know about the hoax and the miss-direction -
> then a hoax on a massive scale can be pulled off -
>
> Now - as I said in one of my other posts - I still have questions -  but
> the gentleman who has been emailing me has made me think a little more on
> what was going on.
>
> Is it a hoax? I don't know I said that before.
> I would like to think not, but I still have questions about it.
> Did I just give you a movie plot for me reasons it could have been - Yes
> and I fully realize it was a movie plot. And therefore not anyway real
> life. Just interesting That is all I am saying. Here - I don't like the
> idea of all the information coming from one source - more sources are
> needed. I am open to the possibility I am wrong - I just want to see prove
> from a source other then Nasa
[snip]

LeRoy,

I'm not sure how you can have a source other than NASA, other than two hams
who made independant recordings of Apollo transmissions.  In 1971 (summer
issue) a QST article talks of Dick Knadle(sp?) KRIW who got some, and another
ham, I believe W4HHK received signals as well.

I'd also bet the Russian space agency has stuff.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you have questions about any
"fakery" of moon landings, find the Myth Busters TV show.  They did a *really*
good job of debunking several myths about how things were faked.

I do not find this discussion OT for Amsat-bb, because this affects us.  It
erodes the effort of tens of thousands of technical people, and has ripple
effects for the USA, far beyond the original topic.

--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf  en82


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:14:20 +0100
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Special event
To: <GW1FKY@xxx.xxx>, <ea4dut@xxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <2E19CD6CCB1C4A1096473026E29473C4@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
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	reply-type=original

Hi All,

Yes a great signal from AO51 this evening on an almost overhead pass. As
well as the message it was interesting to hear the bursts of repetitive QRM
on the L band uplink. From previous ATV experience I could instantly
identify it as coming from one or more of the "en route" aeronautical high
power radars that we share the band with over here.

Congratulations and thanks to everyone involved in organising the event!

73

Graham G3VZV

----- Original Message -----
From: <GW1FKY@xxx.xxx>
To: <ea4dut@xxx.xx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:54 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Special event


> Hi all,
> A perfect evening here in Wales ( UK ) for the  pass    - No wind or rain
> and not to hot.
> I copied the audio and SSTV just using my Kenwood  THD7 and Arrow  antenna
> with excellent satisfaction.
> Thanks to all involved in the project and arrangements it really made my
> day.
> And thanks also for the " New One" Hi!
> Ken Eaton
> GW1FKY
> Amsat -UK
> Amsat NA
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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