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3. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (Joe)
4. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (kd8bxp@xxx.xxxx
5. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
6. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (Ben Jackson)
7. AMSAT Ballot (Martha)
8. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
9. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (Roger Kolakowski)
10. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (kd8bxp@xxx.xxxx
11. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
12. AO-51 Special event (Angel)
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14. Re: Evidence of moon landings....! (David - KG4ZLB)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:21:02 +0000
From: kd8bxp@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: "John P. Toscano" <tosca005@xx.xxx.xxx>,
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Hello - to all and to the group
I have been having a very interesting email conversation with a gentelman, who
truely has given me a lot to think about
This man doesn't know me from adam, and therefore I believe he is telling me
what he personally saw - I am not going to say his name or call I don't know
if he would want that and out of respect to him I just willnt do that.
I did tell him that I still have questions reguarding the moon walk - but
that I will accept what he saw as face vaule.
And he does seem to have some knowledge on the subject - I google some of what
he said and was able to find some of what he told me
Do I know for sure that someone walked on the moon? NO
I would like to think Nasa and the US didn't perpetrate the biggest hoax in
the world. But time will surely tell
I still want to see or have present something independant from Nasa - so far
still the only source releasing pictures
I am openned minded about this - and honestly this is the conspirary thory I
"buy" into maybe not for the same reasons as others.
I am not really a conspirary person - some times you can really get caught up
in the conspiary and miss the forest thou the tree as it were
OH BTW
Off topic - yes I think the pictures from hubble are real. But we aren't
talking about hubble and we are not talking about galaxies here we are talking
about something much closer to home. And the only source of information for
that right now is Nasa
LeRoy, KD8BXP
http://www.HamOhio.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: "John P. Toscano" <tosca005@xx.xxx.xxx>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:53:26
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
William Leijenaar wrote:
> The news is full again of the moon landings, where NASA claims to have new
evidence, which makes me laugh again. I have the same idea like LeRoy, KD8BXP.
When the information is only from one source it is not reliable at all, every
scientist should know.
>
> This doesn't mean that I state no man has been on the moon, for me it is
just not clear.
William:
If one is truly skeptical of the truth of NASA's claims to have landed
men on the moon and brought them back to earth safely, then it is only
natural to claim that nothing that NASA says will be accepted as proof
of having accomplished the deed. The only thing that NASA could do to
convince a true skeptic is to land that person on the moon and bring
them home again. (Wouldn't that be a treat?)
On the other hand, we should be clear that NASA is *NOT* claiming that
these pictures are "evidence that they really were there". They are
(rightly) very proud of the extreme resolution of the pictures coming
from the new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), and wanted to "show
off" how good the pictures are. Of course, they chose to image targets
that would pique the interest of as many folks as possible. For that
reason, choosing to show photographs of the moon landing sites surely
fulfills the criterion of generating lots of interest.
You are certainly entitled to your disbelief. But attributing these
photos to a claim by NASA as evidence of the moon landings is a little
bit too negative for my taste. I think that they are fully aware of the
fact that any "proof" they could provide would be discounted by the
skeptics because of its source. The web pages I saw never said anything
about offering proof of prior successful landings on the moon. They are
simply "showing off" their latest interesting photos.
By the way, do you also believe that all of the fantastic pictures from
the Hubble Space Telescope were created in Photoshop instead of being
real images of far away space objects? Oh, sorry, that's a bit
off-topic, and only a rhetorical question. No need to reply to that.
> I would like to see pictures from another nations satellite, in higher
resolution. I believe we will soon know, as there are several countries
wanting to go to the moon. I am looking forward to their pictures and the
state of the equipment left on the moon, in case the landings were no film
studio work :o)
I, too, would welcome more pictures! (See, it really is an interesting
target to photograph!)
> For the moment I keep it more close to the earth with my small transponder
work,
The AMSAT community is indeed highly indebted to you for your hard work
in this area. Thank you very much for your efforts in making small
linear transponders for satellites.
> Maybe in the future there will be a chance to have a moon-ponder :o)
Maybe, and maybe not. But if no one ever dreams of it, it will certainly
never come to pass. Wanting to take the journey is the very first of
many, many steps in the journey, but one that is not optional if the
journey is ever going to be undertaken.
73 de W?JT
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:33:02 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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It sad... These moon deniers are just continuing evidence of
the gowing ignorance coming out of our education system.
They just believe anything that some smooth talking talk show
personality puts out there. Since they can't make sense of the
real world through knowledge and learning and education, they
grab onto to crazy ideas of others so that they have some sense
of belonging to a community of like minded people.
There was a report last week about more than 50% of high school
graduates in Maryland have to take remedial math before they can
begin their college education. And we are not talking about
high math, they can't even do basic math like multiply 7 x 9.
There is no value to arguing with these people or bringing them
fact, because they lack basic fundamentals of science and
physics on which to build understanding.
Witness the the growth of "belief" based knowledge as opposed to
science based knowldedge. And attempts to make them equal...
I fear for our future.
Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
> [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John P.
Toscano
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:53 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
>
> William Leijenaar wrote:
>
> > The news is full again of the moon landings, where NASA
> claims to have new evidence, which makes me laugh again. I
> have the same idea like LeRoy, KD8BXP. When the information
> is only from one source it is not reliable at all, every
> scientist should know.
> >
> > This doesn't mean that I state no man has been on the moon,
> for me it is just not clear.
>
> William:
>
> If one is truly skeptical of the truth of NASA's claims to
> have landed
> men on the moon and brought them back to earth safely, then
> it is only
> natural to claim that nothing that NASA says will be accepted
> as proof
> of having accomplished the deed. The only thing that NASA
could do to
> convince a true skeptic is to land that person on the moon and
bring
> them home again. (Wouldn't that be a treat?)
>
> On the other hand, we should be clear that NASA is *NOT*
> claiming that
> these pictures are "evidence that they really were there".
They are
> (rightly) very proud of the extreme resolution of the pictures
coming
> from the new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), and wanted to
"show
> off" how good the pictures are. Of course, they chose to
> image targets
> that would pique the interest of as many folks as possible.
For that
> reason, choosing to show photographs of the moon landing sites
surely
> fulfills the criterion of generating lots of interest.
>
> You are certainly entitled to your disbelief. But attributing
these
> photos to a claim by NASA as evidence of the moon landings is
> a little
> bit too negative for my taste. I think that they are fully
> aware of the
> fact that any "proof" they could provide would be discounted
by the
> skeptics because of its source. The web pages I saw never
> said anything
> about offering proof of prior successful landings on the
> moon. They are
> simply "showing off" their latest interesting photos.
>
> By the way, do you also believe that all of the fantastic
> pictures from
> the Hubble Space Telescope were created in Photoshop instead
of being
> real images of far away space objects? Oh, sorry, that's a bit
> off-topic, and only a rhetorical question. No need to reply to
that.
>
> > I would like to see pictures from another nations
> satellite, in higher resolution. I believe we will soon know,
> as there are several countries wanting to go to the moon. I
> am looking forward to their pictures and the state of the
> equipment left on the moon, in case the landings were no film
> studio work :o)
>
> I, too, would welcome more pictures! (See, it really is an
> interesting
> target to photograph!)
>
> > For the moment I keep it more close to the earth with my
> small transponder work,
>
> The AMSAT community is indeed highly indebted to you for your
> hard work
> in this area. Thank you very much for your efforts in making
small
> linear transponders for satellites.
>
> > Maybe in the future there will be a chance to have a
moon-ponder :o)
>
> Maybe, and maybe not. But if no one ever dreams of it, it
> will certainly
> never come to pass. Wanting to take the journey is the very
first of
> many, many steps in the journey, but one that is not optional
if the
> journey is ever going to be undertaken.
>
> 73 de W?JT
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:04:34 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Explain me this,,For something as big as NASA to be a hoax there would
be 10s of thousands of people in on it for 50+ years. and not one of
them has talked? Thats unbelivable. Take crop circles, which is a fairly
obvious hoax, there was 2 old drunks in england doing them and they
talked about it and showed how they did them after just a couple of
years. Yet there are people who actually still think that flying saucers
are making them.
William Leijenaar wrote:
>Hi AMSATs,
>
>The news is full again of the moon landings, where NASA claims to have new
evidence, which makes me laugh again. I have the same idea like LeRoy, KD8BXP.
When the information is only from one source it is not reliable at all, every
scientist should know.
>
>This doesn't mean that I state no man has been on the moon, for me it is just
not clear.
>I would like to see pictures from another nations satellite, in higher
resolution. I believe we will soon know, as there are several countries
wanting to go to the moon. I am looking forward to their pictures and the
state of the equipment left on the moon, in case the landings were no film
studio work :o)
>
>For the moment I keep it more close to the earth with my small transponder
work,
>Maybe in the future there will be a chance to have a moon-ponder :o)
>
>73
>William
>---
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:27:12 +0000
From: kd8bxp@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: "Joe" <nss@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Leijenaar" <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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It wouldn't be as hard to hoax something like that at all -
And yes - I know what I am going to say will make people think that I got the
idea from a movie. I did not.
But the movie Capricorn One (Which was made late 70s early 80s I believe) is a
movie about a manned program to mars - the program had problems and it was
decided to rather then have it fail - Nasa would fake it - there were problems
of course with faking it as well - namely the astronauts where going to play
along until the space craft ended up being destroyed because of the heat
shield - so the astronauts had to be killed. Anyways, total fiction - I know
it I understand. But in the movie - key personnel in Nasa knew about the hoax
- knew what was going on and miss directed the underlings - at one point - a
man working in control runs and program on his own - saying the messages
couldn't be coming from mars the signals were too close - the director (who is
in on the hoax) asks which console he is on - and then states oh yes we have
been having problems with that console - the next day the worker is assigned a
different job - but will not let well enough alone - speaks to a reported
(movie remember) - and is then eliminated -
Point is - if only the high up know about the hoax and the miss-direction -
then a hoax on a massive scale can be pulled off -
Now - as I said in one of my other posts - I still have questions - but the
gentleman who has been emailing me has made me think a little more on what was
going on.
Is it a hoax? I don't know I said that before.
I would like to think not, but I still have questions about it.
Did I just give you a movie plot for me reasons it could have been - Yes and I
fully realize it was a movie plot. And therefore not anyway real life. Just
interesting
That is all I am saying. Here - I don't like the idea of all the information
coming from one source - more sources are needed.
I am open to the possibility I am wrong - I just want to see prove from a
source other then Nasa
LeRoy, KD8BXP
http://www.HamOhio.com
------Original Message------
From: Joe
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
To: William Leijenaar
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
Sent: Jul 20, 2009 10:04 AM
Explain me this,,For something as big as NASA to be a hoax there would
be 10s of thousands of people in on it for 50+ years. and not one of
them has talked? Thats unbelivable. Take crop circles, which is a fairly
obvious hoax, there was 2 old drunks in england doing them and they
talked about it and showed how they did them after just a couple of
years. Yet there are people who actually still think that flying saucers
are making them.
William Leijenaar wrote:
>Hi AMSATs,
>
>The news is full again of the moon landings, where NASA claims to have new
evidence, which makes me laugh again. I have the same idea like LeRoy, KD8BXP.
When the information is only from one source it is not reliable at all, every
scientist should know.
>
>This doesn't mean that I state no man has been on the moon, for me it is just
not clear.
>I would like to see pictures from another nations satellite, in higher
resolution. I believe we will soon know, as there are several countries
wanting to go to the moon. I am looking forward to their pictures and the
state of the equipment left on the moon, in case the landings were no film
studio work :o)
>
>For the moment I keep it more close to the earth with my small transponder
work,
>Maybe in the future there will be a chance to have a moon-ponder :o)
>
>73
>William
>---
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:38:58 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
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A lot of people believe that the existence of God is a hoax and that has been
going for several thousand years without a
conclusive outcome.
Joe wrote:
> Explain me this,,For something as big as NASA to be a hoax there would
> be 10s of thousands of people in on it for 50+ years. and not one of
> them has talked? Thats unbelivable. Take crop circles, which is a fairly
> obvious hoax, there was 2 old drunks in england doing them and they
> talked about it and showed how they did them after just a couple of
> years. Yet there are people who actually still think that flying saucers
> are making them.
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:42:07 -0400
From: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx William Leijenaar
<pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
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Can we kill this thread please? This is insanely off topic...
Besides everyone knows that NASA is a front by the trilateral commission
to keep us from looking into Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster.
- --
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:57:32 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Ballot
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To all - Please read the front page of our web page. You will find the
answer to your question on the AMSAT ballot.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:05:32 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: kd8bxp@xxx.xxxx "Joe" <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Leroy,
Should I wait until you're satisfied that the Apollo 11 mission and all
surrounding the Apollo program was NOT, collectively, a hoax before I mail
your QSL card for the contact you seemed excited to make yesterday on SO-50
with K5E?
I mean ... who would celebrate a hoax?
I was born in 1956 and grew up in the middle of the Cold War and the Space
Race. I am insulted by the "moon deniers," as an earlier poster characterized
them.
They confound me on two levels:
1 - Collectively, they fail to mention that America's one true adversary in
the race to the moon - Russia - has never raised an iota of skepticism over
the Apollo program's validity. Given the access to the audio, photographic and
video record of the program, the fact that the Apollo program's achievements
stand without challenge backed by significant evidence on the part of the
single entity with the most to gain by exposing such a charade suggests there
is nothing to expose. I suppose you can claim that Russia was in on it, too
(i.e., "if only the high up know about the hoax and the miss-direction - then
a hoax on a massive scale can be pulled off"). Yeah ... right.
2 - Collectively, you fail to include the deaths of Gus Grissom, Ed White and
Roger Chaffee in the Apollo 1 capsule. Since the Apollo program succeeded in
completing multiple moon landings, their deaths cannot be attributed to a
"Capricorn One scenario." How and why did that tragic accident become a part
of the hoax? Were Grissom, White and Chaffee the inaugural members of the
federal witness protection program? Oh, wait ... their deaths triggered the
launch of the hoax because of the dangers involved. Yeah ... right.
Let me know about that QSL.
73,
Tim - N3TL
K5E - The 40th Anniversary Apollo 11 Satellite Special Event
-------------- Original message from kd8bxp@xxx.xxxx --------------
> It wouldn't be as hard to hoax something like that at all -
>
> And yes - I know what I am going to say will make people think that I got
the
> idea from a movie. I did not.
>
> But the movie Capricorn One (Which was made late 70s early 80s I believe) is
a
> movie about a manned program to mars - the program had problems and it was
> decided to rather then have it fail - Nasa would fake it - there were
problems
> of course with faking it as well - namely the astronauts where going to play
> along until the space craft ended up being destroyed because of the heat
shield
> - so the astronauts had to be killed. Anyways, total fiction - I know it I
> understand. But in the movie - key personnel in Nasa knew about the hoax -
knew
> what was going on and miss directed the underlings - at one point - a man
> working in control runs and program on his own - saying the messages
couldn't be
> coming from mars the signals were too close - the director (who is in on the
> hoax) asks which console he is on - and then states oh yes we have been
having
> problems with that console - the next day the worker is assigned a different
job
> - but will not let well enough alone - speaks to a reported (movie remember)
-
> and is then eliminated -
>
> Point is - if only the high up know about the hoax and the miss-direction -
then
> a hoax on a massive scale can be pulled off -
>
> Now - as I said in one of my other posts - I still have questions - but the
> gentleman who has been emailing me has made me think a little more on what
was
> going on.
>
> Is it a hoax? I don't know I said that before.
> I would like to think not, but I still have questions about it.
> Did I just give you a movie plot for me reasons it could have been - Yes and
I
> fully realize it was a movie plot. And therefore not anyway real life. Just
> interesting
> That is all I am saying. Here - I don't like the idea of all the information
> coming from one source - more sources are needed.
> I am open to the possibility I am wrong - I just want to see prove from a
source
> other then Nasa
>
> LeRoy, KD8BXP
> http://www.HamOhio.com
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Joe
> Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
> To: William Leijenaar
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
> Sent: Jul 20, 2009 10:04 AM
>
> Explain me this,,For something as big as NASA to be a hoax there would
> be 10s of thousands of people in on it for 50+ years. and not one of
> them has talked? Thats unbelivable. Take crop circles, which is a fairly
> obvious hoax, there was 2 old drunks in england doing them and they
> talked about it and showed how they did them after just a couple of
> years. Yet there are people who actually still think that flying saucers
> are making them.
>
> William Leijenaar wrote:
>
> >Hi AMSATs,
> >
> >The news is full again of the moon landings, where NASA claims to have new
> evidence, which makes me laugh again. I have the same idea like LeRoy,
KD8BXP.
> When the information is only from one source it is not reliable at all,
every
> scientist should know.
> >
> >This doesn't mean that I state no man has been on the moon, for me it is
just
> not clear.
> >I would like to see pictures from another nations satellite, in higher
> resolution. I believe we will soon know, as there are several countries
wanting
> to go to the moon. I am looking forward to their pictures and the state of
the
> equipment left on the moon, in case the landings were no film studio work
:o)
> >
> >For the moment I keep it more close to the earth with my small transponder
> work,
> >Maybe in the future there will be a chance to have a moon-ponder :o)
> >
> >73
> >William
> >---
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:25:30 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Now it's not only off topic...it becoming personal and threatening...
(The moderator must be on vacation...)
Roger
WA1KAT
> Leroy,
>
> Should I wait until you're satisfied that the Apollo 11 mission and all
surrounding the Apollo program was NOT, collectively, a hoax before I mail
your QSL card
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:31:27 +0000
From: kd8bxp@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>,
amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx
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Roger,
I didn't take it like that at all - I have upset the man - and didn't mean to
I apologized to him in private - now I will do it in public
Tim, I am sorry that I offended you. Please accept my applogie. It was not my
intention to offend anyone. So if I also offend someone else that is not what
I was doing or my intention. Please email me off list. And we can talk more
LeRoy, KD8BXP
http://www.HamOhio.com
------Original Message------
From: Roger Kolakowski
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To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
Sent: Jul 20, 2009 12:25 PM
Now it's not only off topic...it becoming personal and threatening...
(The moderator must be on vacation...)
Roger
WA1KAT
> Leroy,
>
> Should I wait until you're satisfied that the Apollo 11 mission and all
surrounding the Apollo program was NOT, collectively, a hoax before I mail
your QSL card
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:34:42 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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My aplogies, Mr. Kolakowski, to you personally and to everyone on the board.
No real threats were intended. Apparently my sarcasm was not well-taken - at
least not by you.
I remain open to anyone who can explain the reasons why the two issues I
raised are as they are - and ask that such explanations be made off this BB.
Again, my apologies to all.
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> Now it's not only off topic...it becoming personal and threatening...
>
> (The moderator must be on vacation...)
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
>
> > Leroy,
> >
> > Should I wait until you're satisfied that the Apollo 11 mission and all
> surrounding the Apollo program was NOT, collectively, a hoax before I mail
> your QSL card
>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:19:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: Angel Pel?ez, EA4DUT <angelkilroy@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 Special event
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Excellent the pass received few minutes ago with my home made arrow antenna on
my vacation site by the Mediterranean shore at JN00DF in Spain.
The maximum elevation was only 8 degrees but I could record the voice message
and SSTV transmision comfortably up to three times meanwhile the sat passed
above my deep sea blue horizon....
I was?so excited that I was near to start to shout out!!
Now I will try to decode the SSTV and listen carefully to the voice message
for writing it down for QSL details.
Congratulations and thanks to control team for this historical event. A great
leap indeed 40 years ago that now we can live again.
Thanks again and good luck.
73, EA4DUT, Angel
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:22:26 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Special event
To: Angel Pel?ez, EA4DUT <ea4dut@xxx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: EA4DUT <angelkilroy@xxxxx.xx>, Angel. Pel?ez @xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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Congratulations, Angel!
And thank you to the control team for recruiting operators in order to make
the AO-51 operation a worldwide event.
Job well-done!
73,
Tim
-------------- Original message from Angel Pel?ez, EA4DUT
<angelkilroy@xxxxx.xx>: --------------
Excellent the pass received few minutes ago with my home made arrow antenna on
> my vacation site by the Mediterranean shore at JN00DF in Spain. The maximum
elevation was only 8 degrees but I could record the voice message and SSTV
transmision comfortably up to three times meanwhile the sat passed
> above my deep sea blue horizon....
> I was so excited that I was near to start to shout out!! Now I will try to
decode the SSTV and listen carefully to the voice message for
> writing it down for QSL details. Congratulations and thanks to control team
for this historical event. A great
> leap indeed 40 years ago that now we can live again.
>
> Thanks again and good luck.
>
> 73, EA4DUT, Angel
>
>
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:54:01 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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See
Moon astronauts urge Mars mission
here! <http://foxyurl.com/p4w>
Rumours that Stephen Spielberg has been signed up to provide the special
effects are currently unsubstantiated but obviously the BBC are already
on board.
:-P
David
KG4ZLB
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