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Today's Topics:
1. Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS Re:Re:dream)
(W4ART Arthur Feller)
2. W1AW/8 (Mark Spencer)
3. That was GREAT! (Rick - WA4NVM)
4. EN86 Drummond Island MI (John Papay)
5. Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS Re: Re:
dream) (Tony Langdon)
6. Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS Re:
Re:dream) (Tony Langdon)
7. Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS Re:Re:dream)
(Tony Langdon)
8. Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS Re:
Re:dream) (Tony Langdon)
9. AMSAT Field Day Summary Sheets Due (Bruce)
10. down converter (Jerry)
11. Re: AO-7??? (Auke de Jong)
12. Re: FT-736R won't send CW (Greg D.)
13. 2009 AMSAT Annual Meeting and Space Symposium - Call for
papers (Daniel Schultz)
14. Book your flight to the Amsat Symposium today, airline fare
sale for next 24 hours (Daniel Schultz)
15. Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS Re:
Re:dream) (Gordon JC Pearce)
16. Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS Re: Re:
dream) (Gordon JC Pearce)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:37:47 -0400
From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS
Re:Re:dream)
To: kd8bxp@xxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi, LeRoy,
First of all, if an issue arises, FCC will discuss the matter with
affected folks long before taking action against a license. Legal
actions, both theirs and yours, cost a lot of money. Talking over an
issue is far more practical and less expensive. Not to worry.
A wonderful thing about amateur radio is that it's only for individual
people to learn and try ideas. We have both a great deal of
flexibility and the responsibility that goes with the flexibility.
Gives us wonderful possibilities!!!
Enjoy!!
73, art.....
W4ART/4 Miami FL
On 7-Jul-2009, at 12:28 PM, kd8bxp@xxx.xxx wrote:
> Wow I am honestly surprised by this attiude. This is the 2nd email
> that I have seen saying don't ask the FCC anything
>
> I the rules are vauge at best - why else would so many people
> disagree about what can and can not be done
>
> I don't have the time or money to go into a legal battle with FCC -
> and I don't want to loose my license if this is in their minds
> illegal. I am just not willing to do that -
>
> A judgement for or against is the only way to settle the question
> once and for all.
> If I personally don't like the ruleing then I would just have to
> live with it - or file for an appeal.
>
> There is no reason that I can see to break the law (maybe) and let
> it sort itself out latter.
>
> I am really surprised by this -
>
> Truely surprised
>
> A judgement needs to be made - some people may not like it - but if
> that is the rules - we can make reasoned arguments as to why the
> rules need to be changed. Not just break the rules and then sort it
> out later
>
> LeRoy, KD8BXP
> http://www.HamOhio.com
> Sent on the Now Network? from my Sprint?? BlackBerry
>
>
> From: W4ART Arthur Feller
> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:13:59 -0400
> To: <kd8bxp@xxx.xxx>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers
> (WAS Re: Re:dream)
>
> "Whenever you get in bed with the Federal government, you often get
> more than just a good night's sleep." Ronald Regan.
>
> Translation: Don't ask for a ruling unless prepared to hear
> something you won't like.
>
> Better to proceed in good faith and sort out the matter only if
> needed.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> 73, art.....
> W4ART/4 Miami FL
>
>
> On 7-Jul-2009, at 11:42 AM, kd8bxp@xxx.xxx wrote:
>
>> Ben, I agree we need a ruling on this I think part 97 is vauge and
>> vauge for a reason
>>
>> What we need is to setup a confrance call or something so we can
>> get a well written letter together and get it off to someone who
>> can make a ruleing at the FCC
>>
>> Skype, echolink, dstar or something where those that are interested
>> can all join in -
>> Define a system and descuss the possablities of doing call sign
>> routing, sending the pages up to a satellite ect ect
>>
>> But before "we" put a lot of time and effort and money into this
>> I think we need a ruleing
>>
>> I know for a fact that our local repeater is cabable of doing 2
>> tone paging - and was in use back when I was very young and not a
>> ham - the elders of the local club say it was able to send alerts
>> for weather, pages for people to get on the radio, ect. It was all
>> done with tones at the time - "our" pagers are far more advanced
>> and can display the text of whatever
>>
>> No one in the club can tell me why they stopped using pagers - a
>> couple of the guys thought it was because cell phones became small
>> and able to be carried in your hand.
>>
>> But at around the same time they stopped paging, kantronics also
>> stopped modify pagers for 2 meters, and I think they stopped making
>> the tncs that were able to do POCSAG - so my thinking was that a
>> rule had changed making pagers illegal in the ham bands. Or at very
>> least questionable. From the kantronics point of view the may not
>> have been selling many of them and just didn't want to put the time
>> and resources into making them anymore. But something happended -
>> As I said our local repeater is cabable of doing two tone - it was
>> built like that from the beginning
>>
>>
>> We need to setup something and get as many people as we can write
>> up a well written paper and get a ruleing. That is bottom line on
>> it -
>> I am on the fence as far as if it is legal or not - on one hand an
>> agrument can be made for telemetery - which is aloud - on the other
>> hand pagers can be used to send one way personal pages which is
>> where I am unclear
>> I think as we see here agurements can be made on both sides. Which
>> is why we need a ruleing. When rules are written this vauge some
>> one needs to decide and stand by the decision
>>
>> LeRoy, KD8BXP
>> http://www.HamOhio.com
>>
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Ben Jackson
>> To: Bob Bruninga
>> Cc: kd8bxp@xxx.xxx
>> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Subject: Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS Re:
>> [amsat-bb] Re:dream)
>> Sent: Jul 7, 2009 11:20 AM
>>
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>> Bob Bruninga wrote:
>>
>> *snip*
>>
>> We'll agree to disagree regarding your take of the rules as almost
>> everyone else did on APRSSIG. ;)
>>
>>> There is no reason to nit pick rules. When one is broadcasting (one
>>> way) to the general public or using amateur radio inappropriately, I
>>> think everyone can tell when it is blatanly illegal. I just don't
>>> see the FCC cares one nit about some of these debates when any one
>>> can see that hams are taking initiative to better their use of the
>>> radio art.
>>
>> Considering that they've recently ruled on whether contesters should
>> give blanket "5-by-9" signals, I'd think they'd be glad to rule on
>> something interesting and relevant. :)
>>
>>>>> You just have to ignore the curmudgeons who have nothing better
>>>>> to do than nit-pick ways to prevent other hams from developing
>>>>> useful applications of technology. A pager is simply the
>>>>> text-to-user device integrated into the normal local 2-way
>>>>> amateur radio communications system.
>>>> The issue is that, according to Part 97, it can't be used beyond
>>>> QSTs, telemetry, or "necessary" emergency communications. Could I
>>>> get away with setting up such a system? Likely. Do I foot to stand
>>>> on when my local OO comes knocking? Not so much.
>>>
>>> Some OO's are part of the problem, not the solution...
>>
>> Then the solution has presented itself. Get a ruling from the FCC
>> regarding the use of transmissions to receive-only devices such as
>> pagers. Then we can finally put this issue to rest and if anyone
>> comes
>> knocking regarding the legality of these transmissions, we can have
>> something concrete to cite.
>>
>> Again, I'd love to set up something like this, but I'd be hard
>> pressed
>> to spend a chunk of money on a system that could be taken down if
>> someone files a complaint to the FCC.
>>
>> Let's take any further discussion about this offline.
>>
>> - --
>> Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
>> bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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>> Sent on the Now Network??? from my Sprint???? BlackBerry
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:26:42 -0400
From: "Mark Spencer" <mspencer@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/8
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <20090707212643.E9E0155800C@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Thanks to all who helped out with the satellite demonstration during the
ARRL teachers institute held in Dayton OH today. The contacts were on AO27
during the 1515 EST pass. For those that contacted me (I was using W1AW/8)
that would like a QSL, just send me a card at my call book address and I
will return the favor (no SASE required).
73 and CU again from HQ (Newington) July 28th on AO27 and the afternoon pass
(EST), there I will of course use W1AW.
Mark
Mark Spencer, WA8SME
ARRL-The national association for Amateur Radio
Education and Technology Program Coordinator
mspencer@xxxx.xxx
http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/
530-495-9150
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:57:09 -0500
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] That was GREAT!
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <D40D3C8534F5484EAB981A50F7CDA11D@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi All,
It sure was nice to see everyone recognize a rare grid on the bird, work it,
and back off to let everyone else work it. I'm referring to the A0-51 pass
just now (2238utc) with Doug - KD8CAO in EN86. I was very proud of all
the operators during the peak time (the after work crowd) pass of the bird.
It shows it can be done..... and thanks to all those that make the effort
to activate those rare grids.
73 all from Memphis,
Rick - WA4NVM
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:06:53 -0400
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN86 Drummond Island MI
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <200907072306.n67N6P4V001791@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Doug, KD8CAO, is now active from EN86, Drummond Island, MI. He
worked 17 stations on the last AO51 pass at 2240Z, 7 July 09. He
will be active soon on the ssb birds. EN86 is a very rare grid;
XE2AT, who is at the top of the VUCC leader board with 900 grids
confirmed, still needs it! Doug should be active on Wednesday from
EN86 and will be heading back through EN76 Thursday. He only made a
few contacts today on his way through EN76. He reports that he has
no internet connection on the island but his cellphone is
working. He has been using his TH-D7AG and the Arrow on the FM birds
but plans to set up the TS2000 with doppler control now that he is on
the island. Hope you can make a contact.
John K8YSE k8yse@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:29:21 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS
Re: Re: dream)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4a53da73.25578c0a.7948.ffff918f@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 11:55 PM 7/7/2009, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>In my mind a pager is just another way of making the call. THe
>intent is NOT ONE WAY, it is to provide a call-up or a message as
>part of a CLEARLY TWO-WAY amateur network.
For me, the use of modified pagers has a LOT of advantages. There
are times when I don't get to listen to the radio much, or wander off
at the wrong moment, when someone's looking for me. Having a pager
facility would fill those gaps, and it sounds like it's not too
difficult to integrate that into the APRS network. I'm also an easy
case, because I spend a lot of time in the same general area (around
here). Anyway, might be a way to recycle some redundant hardware
that's lying around.
>There is no reason to nit pick rules. When one is broadcasting (one
>way) to the general public or using amateur radio inappropriately, I
>think everyone can tell when it is blatanly illegal. I just don't
>see the FCC cares one nit about some of these debates when any one
>can see that hams are taking initiative to better their use of the radio art.
Besides, it's easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for
permission, when it comes to the rules, if you breached them
unknowingly, while acting in good faith.
We had some similar issues in the past with a local club wanting to
do an innovative amateur related (i.e. club and local ham goings on)
news broadcast, and one of the rules that was brought into play was
about 1 way transmissions, so the news broadcasters came up with a
clever solution. It was to be an extended test transmission, with
signal reports from those "participating" in the "test" before and
afterwards. :) While the news broadcast lasted only 3 years, due to
participant burnout, it did lead to a significant change in the
regulations here, for the better. I participated as a relay station
and also automatically recorded each news broadcast as it went to
air. There are archives lurking around somewhere. Should also have
them on a hard disk and on the web too.
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:41:24 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS
Re: Re:dream)
To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>, kd8bxp@xxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4a53dd48.1f588c0a.2aa8.4d33@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 02:06 AM 7/8/2009, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>No we don't.
>The FCC are obviously happy to allow us to do what we do now.
I agree. I believe it's counterproductive going off and making noise
to the relevant Government authority (FCC, Ofcom, ACMA, Industry
Canada, etc). The rules are there for a reason, but the rules can't
keep pace with the level of technological change and
innovation. WHat we do need to focus on is operating within the
_spirit_ of the rules. Sending a page to establish a QSO is another
means of selective calling, and that's already available on other
modes (e.g. callsign squelch on D-STAR). In fact, a very clever
gateway might be able to route a D-STAR call to a pager, and alert
the recipient that someone on D-STAR is looking to make contact.
>If you stir up trouble and get things banned, there are going to be
>an awful lot of pissed amameurs after your arse.
Agree. Nothing worse than the nit pickers getting something banned,
because they made noises, rather than letting events develop. Now,
if the pages were being used for commercial reasons, fair enough, but
that's already covered in the rules, no further action needs to be
taken. POCSAG is a readily available protocol, so no problem there,
and the majority of pages are going to be to initiate a QSO.
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:50:19 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS
Re:Re:dream)
To: kd8bxp@xxx.xxxx "W4ART Arthur Feller" <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4a53df45.27b38c0a.20e5.ffff984b@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 02:28 AM 7/8/2009, kd8bxp@xxx.xxx wrote:
>I don't have the time or money to go into a legal battle with FCC -
>and I don't want to loose my license if this is in their minds
>illegal. I am just not willing to do that -
Well, the worst case scenario I see is that because you acted in good
faith, not with intent to break the rules, the FCC would write to you
advising that they consider what you're doing to be illegal, please
stop. If you have any questions, please contact...
So, all you'd have to do if you got the letter would be to stop
operating your pager transmitter, and THEN, since they initiated
contact, give the FCC a call and discuss it further.
>There is no reason that I can see to break the law (maybe) and let
>it sort itself out latter.
The rules are sometimes vague for a reason. The FCC (or whoever)
don't have a crystal ball, and can't fully predict which way
technology will be develop or used. If they see a problem, they will
advise those they judge to be of concern. I can't see them slapping
a fine on you without warning, when you're not doing anything
malicious. Worst I'd expect is a cease and desist letter (and if you
got one of those, THEN you'd better stop what they asked you to stop
doing! :) ).
Speaking of rules, in Australia, there has been a trend towards
taking out specifics (such as modes allowed on each band) and
replacing them with more general limits, such as bandwidth. This is
another sign of the authorities saying we should organise our own
sandpit to play in (they just tell us where we can play), but play
nice and don't give anyone a "free ride" where they aren't allowed to go. :)
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:58:18 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS
Re: Re:dream)
To: kd8bxp@xxx.xxxx dave@xxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx
Bruninga '" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4a53e124.16048e0a.6c2f.27b7@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 04:05 AM 7/8/2009, kd8bxp@xxx.xxx wrote:
>So let's say I know your personal capcode - I send to you making a
>call up now "KF8II de KD8BXP pls call on 40meter 7.100 at 2200z"
>
>I think that would be 100% legal. So it is all about content and not
>about the techonolgy of it being a oneway device
I'd agree with this logic. It is establishing a QSO, albeit on a
different frequency. Similarly, a pager could be used to send signal
reports, when there's only a 1 way path. For example, I can hear
someone on HF, but they can't hear me, I could send a page saying "UR
5x1, can't reply, amp no go" . Now this is becoming a real time,
cross band, cross mode QSO, and those ARE legal. :)
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:35:21 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day Summary Sheets Due
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A53F7D9.30103@xxxx.xxx>
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If you participated in AMSAT Field Day and would like your efforts to
count towards AMSAT Field Day, you have until Monday, July 13, 2009 at
11:59PM CDT to submit your entries. They can be emailed to me at
kk5do@xxxx.xxx or kk5do@xxxxx.xxx
You can also send them in the mail but give plenty of time for them to
arrive or you will be out of luck. I will send you a confirmation email
when I receive your entry (might take a day depending on my work
schedule). Photos and neat descriptions of your field day antics and
events are welcome.
73...bruce
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:06:09 -0500
From: "Jerry" <W0SAT@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] down converter
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi : would anyone be interested in buying my non modified AIDC
3731 down converter ???
Jerry w0sat
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:35:51 -0600
From: "Auke de Jong" <sparkycivic@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7???
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <003301c9ff85$92dc8ab0$6400a8c0@xxxxxxx>
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reply-type=original
Could the solar panels on one particular side be failing? Are there any
regular patterns to the performance?
... and so continues the next chapter of most interesting satellite we have!
----- Original Message -----
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
To: <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:08 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7???
On Tue, July 7, 2009 03:41, w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Hello
Hi Bob,
> To all you AO-7 fans. We appear to have a sick bird. We should feel
> blessed in having such a well performing satellite for several years,
> considering it is older than some of it's users. The audio is distorted
> and cw sounds bad, running absolute minimum power.
I used AO-7 yesterday evening and all seems well except the normal AO-7
gargle. But when you take this in consideration and don't use to must power
or talk the fast is it still a nice bird to use.
> Any thoughts or suggestions are solicited.
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Seattle
73's PE0SAT / JO21ho
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:33:37 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FT-736R won't send CW
To: <suenrod@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <tokens@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Allen,
Presumably my earlier suggestions to the 736 forum all checked out,
unsuccessfully. One other thing to check: If you have a volt meter, measure
the potential across the key. Mine is a tad over 7 volts. If you get zero,
it's possible that there is indeed something wrong inside the rig.
I've checked both of the rig's owners manuals, as you probably already have,
and the diagrams for plugging in a key or paddles are identical.
Good luck,
Greg KO6TH
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:20:18 -0700
> From: suenrod@xxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FT-736R won't send CW
>
>
> I know it's a simple anwser but make sure the CW plug is wired the same.
> It might be a stereo plug and wired differently for the 736R and the 767.
>
> 73's
> RoD
>
> --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Allen Vinegar <tokens@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > From: Allen Vinegar <tokens@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-736R won't send CW
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 10:26 AM
> > I posted this to the 736R forum but
> > have not received any good answers. I know I must be missing
> > something obvious but I can't get my FT-736R to work in CW
> > mode. I plug in the same key I use with my FT-767GX, press
> > the CW button, turn on the VOX, press down the key and
> > nothing happens. Rig works fine on SSB and FM. Before I open
> > up the case and dig in, what am I missing??
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Al W8KHP
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:20:24 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2009 AMSAT Annual Meeting and Space Symposium -
Call for papers
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This is the second call for papers for the 2009 AMSAT Annual Meeting and Space
Symposium to be held October 9 - 11 at the Four Points Sheraton Hotel at the
Baltimore Washington Airport. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations
and poster presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur
satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon
as possible, with final copy submitted by September 1, 2009 for inclusion in
the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz,
N8FGV, at n8fgv@xxxxx.xxx.
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:28:24 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Book your flight to the Amsat Symposium today,
airline fare sale for next 24 hours
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Southwest Airlines is having a fare sale today only for fall travel, sale
fares are valid every day except Fridays & Sundays. Must purchase tickets
online by July 8, 11:59 pm Pacific Time (about 24 hours from now). Other
airlines may be matching these fares.
Now might be a good time to book your flight to the Amsat Symposium at the
Baltimore (BWI) airport, October 9 to 11. (Even if you decide to return home
on Sunday, you can still save a bit on the outbound flight if you come on
Thursday.)
Dan Schultz N8FGV
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:45:25 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS
Re: Re:dream)
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On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 16:06 +0000, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> No we don't.
> The FCC are obviously happy to allow us to do what we do now.
>
> If you stir up trouble and get things banned, there are going to be an awful
lot of pissed amameurs after your arse.
"easier to ask forgiveness than permission" I think is the phrase you're
looking for here.
Without rehashing old ground, I don't see why POCSAG would be any less
legal than DSTAR. "But it's a code!" - yes, a well-documented one,
unlike DSTAR with its super-sekrit only-for-the-inner-circle codec and
poorly-documented protocol.
Gordon 2M0YEQ
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:48:56 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: Universal Text Messaging and Pagers (WAS
Re: Re: dream)
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On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 09:55 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote:
> Sorry, one can also claim that every transmission is one-way because
> only under full duplex conditions is a system truely two-way. There
> are all kinds of applications in amateur radio where one side of the
> link uses different hardware than the other return side, and once can
> make all kinds of arguments as to how much delay is involved between
> the transmission and the receiption.. 3 seconds? 10 seconds, a
> minute? 10 minutes? A day? When you make a call to a party TO
> ESTABLISH commmunications it is one way, until the person gets his
> system going and responds.
A good example of this is the amateur satellites. You might fire an
email off to someone - "I heard you but you couldn't hear me" after the
pass. I think you'd have a hard time describing that as anything other
than a one-way radio communication, but I don't see where that would
become illegal.
Gordon 2M0YEQ
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