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Today's Topics:
1. Re: The Moon is our Future (Gordon JC Pearce)
2. Re: The Moon is our Future (Gordon JC Pearce)
3. ISS Visual Siting over the US (Bauer, Frank H. (GSFC-5900))
4. Re: The Moon is our Future (Joe)
5. FW: Re: The Moon is our Future (Dave)
6. FW: Re: The Moon is our Future (Dave)
7. FW: Re: The Moon is our Future (Dave)
8. Re: FW: Re: The Moon is our Future (Dave)
9. Fw: [keps] orb09176.2l.amsat - old keps (Roger Kolakowski)
10. sorry...old 6/25/09 keps without all the garbage
(Roger Kolakowski)
11. Re: The Moon is our Future (John B. Stephensen)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:40:47 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future
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On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 18:21 -0500, Gregg Wonderly wrote:
> It seems to me that the correct choice is the highest frequency we can get
on
> board for at least 24dB at the longest length of antenna that we would be
> allowed to send up.
Lunar gravity is weaker and there is no wind. So, a collapsible antenna
that wouldn't last five minutes in typical Earth weather will be a lot
more usable on the Moon.
Maybe something like a telescopic boom with a gas canister or pyro
charge to pop the sections out?
Gordon
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:41:00 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future
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On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 11:15 -0400, David - KG4ZLB wrote:
> On the contrary, we need more LEO's to augment and replace the existing
> aged fleet.
>
> Whilst AMSAT works on the HEO's lets put some of our efforts towards the
> Universities who seem to regularly put up 2/70 satellites!
>
I'm relatively new to both amateur radio and the LEO satellites, I'll
admit it. But I just can't see why we aren't constructing and launching
more mode V/U LEO sats. A couple of the cubesats that are already
flying are basically using stripped-down commercial radios in an
off-the-shelf bus. It *cannot* be that hard to do, *if* you avoid
getting bogged down in "clever" stuff.
I appreciate that a mode V/U satellite would need to be a little more
sophisticated than a pair of cheap Chinese HTs gaffa-taped together and
thrown out the driver's window of a passing Space Shuttle, but the fact
remains that such a contraption *would* actually work, briefly. Most
people on this list probably have enough junk lying around to build a
viable mode V/U transponder if not a whole satellite (I'd need to hit
eBay after payday for the solar panels, and scrounge around in Clyde
Space's bins for the chassis).
The tricky bit is getting launches, but it must be possible somehow.
How hard can it be?
Gordon 2M0YEQ
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:44:50 -0500
From: "Bauer, Frank H. (GSFC-5900)" <frank.h.bauer@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Visual Siting over the US
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All,
There will be some outstanding ISS Visual Passes over the US this weekend.
See the article link below for more info.
I hope the weather in your area will be good for viewing.
Enjoy!!
73, Frank Bauer, KA3HDO
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/090630-space-station-spotting.html
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:46:17 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future
To: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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someone I can't remember wheremade a ultra cool linear transponder
recently, too bad it most likely isn't rad hard.
for it was like dirst cheap, but can't remember who made it.
Joe WB9SBD
Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 11:15 -0400, David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>
>
>>On the contrary, we need more LEO's to augment and replace the existing
>>aged fleet.
>>
>>Whilst AMSAT works on the HEO's lets put some of our efforts towards the
>>Universities who seem to regularly put up 2/70 satellites!
>>
>>
>>
>
>I'm relatively new to both amateur radio and the LEO satellites, I'll
>admit it. But I just can't see why we aren't constructing and launching
>more mode V/U LEO sats. A couple of the cubesats that are already
>flying are basically using stripped-down commercial radios in an
>off-the-shelf bus. It *cannot* be that hard to do, *if* you avoid
>getting bogged down in "clever" stuff.
>
>I appreciate that a mode V/U satellite would need to be a little more
>sophisticated than a pair of cheap Chinese HTs gaffa-taped together and
>thrown out the driver's window of a passing Space Shuttle, but the fact
>remains that such a contraption *would* actually work, briefly. Most
>people on this list probably have enough junk lying around to build a
>viable mode V/U transponder if not a whole satellite (I'd need to hit
>eBay after payday for the solar panels, and scrounge around in Clyde
>Space's bins for the chassis).
>
>The tricky bit is getting launches, but it must be possible somehow.
>
>How hard can it be?
>
>Gordon 2M0YEQ
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:46:14 -0600
From: "Dave" <dave@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Re: The Moon is our Future
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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We have met the enemy and they are us. WE need to do something. Yes, $15m is
outta reach, but isn't there a cash prize for the first on-commercial moon
landing?
Dave
DM78qd // KA0SWT
If it weren't for Philo T. Farnsworth, inventor of television, we'd still be
eating frozen radio dinners.-- Johnny Carson
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-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Jeff Davis
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:35 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 06:48:51AM -0600, Jack K. wrote:
> communications anyway) and move forward... We can put up all the leos
> we want, but until someone makes something like B. Bruninga's cell
> concept work, we are only going to have more of the same, We don't
> need more of the same!
I couldn't agree more - we don't need more of the same.
If I want to sit back and have a two hour rag-chew with someone on the other
side of the planet I will use Skype or my cell phone!
Dreaming about what *might* be in space is a fun exercise. Actually doing
something about it requires sending things to LEO because reality has
dictated that's as far as we can afford to go.
How's about we use some of that frustrated *imagineering* to come up with
interesting new concepts at LEO? We don't need any more FM repeaters buzzing
overhead, but what about more cameras downloading HD images, scientific
payloads that monitor the ongoing climate change, payloads to study the
Earth's magnetic field, etc. etc. Our own 'Twitter' messaging network from
space...?
The Apollo 13 creed of "failure is not an option" has completely infected
the brains at AMSAT and this list. You want something at HEO or on the moon,
cut a check for $15 million dollars and let's get on with it. Been waiting
since 1996 for another AO-13 and I am getting too old to keep waiting.
AMSAT is becoming completely irrelevant as it strives without success for
the impossible mission and exhibits a shocking amount of leadership
malfesance as it stubbornly refuses to recognize and adapt to realities in
the launch business.
I know, I know maybe NEXT year someone rich will die and leave us a boatload
of cash. Or the bankrupt US government will suddenly cough up a billion
dollars for some orbiting emergency communication system. In the meantime we
have to stifle the truth because it might blow yet another *secret* deal
that's in the works and *almost* a done deal, so let's not complain publicly
and ruin it.
Heard the stories, heard the lies, got all the t-shirts and ball caps.
Whatever.
--
Jeff, KE9V
AMSAT-NA member since 1994,
Skeptic that we will ever go back to HEO since 2002
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:46:14 -0600
From: "Dave" <dave@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Re: The Moon is our Future
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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I do not understand and am asking for help understanding, why a long, slow,
slingshot path to the moon isn't feasible. We don't need a direct shot, do
we, unless we do this all ourselves? If we go with someone else, we ride
their mission so it doesn't matter what we want. But for total usefulness,
it starts it's mission as a LEO, transitions to an HEO, and then becomes a
lander. Three different missions, three different antenna systems, three
different opportunities to use it. What's wrong with that concept?
Nuc fuel, utilizing a tethered antenna floating above craft held in position
by magnetics or coax, but not affixed to craft so that it can be adjusted
without affecting the lander. A 4x4x4 plastic sheet for an antenna that when
expanded becomes a 20m semi-rigid antenna.
Might as well use products already here tied to dreams.
This can work albeit slowly.
Dave
DM78qd // KA0SWT
If it weren't for Philo T. Farnsworth, inventor of television, we'd still be
eating frozen radio dinners.-- Johnny Carson
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-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Jeff Davis
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:35 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 06:48:51AM -0600, Jack K. wrote:
> communications anyway) and move forward... We can put up all the leos
> we want, but until someone makes something like B. Bruninga's cell
> concept work, we are only going to have more of the same, We don't
> need more of the same!
I couldn't agree more - we don't need more of the same.
If I want to sit back and have a two hour rag-chew with someone on the other
side of the planet I will use Skype or my cell phone!
Dreaming about what *might* be in space is a fun exercise. Actually doing
something about it requires sending things to LEO because reality has
dictated that's as far as we can afford to go.
How's about we use some of that frustrated *imagineering* to come up with
interesting new concepts at LEO? We don't need any more FM repeaters buzzing
overhead, but what about more cameras downloading HD images, scientific
payloads that monitor the ongoing climate change, payloads to study the
Earth's magnetic field, etc. etc. Our own 'Twitter' messaging network from
space...?
The Apollo 13 creed of "failure is not an option" has completely infected
the brains at AMSAT and this list. You want something at HEO or on the moon,
cut a check for $15 million dollars and let's get on with it. Been waiting
since 1996 for another AO-13 and I am getting too old to keep waiting.
AMSAT is becoming completely irrelevant as it strives without success for
the impossible mission and exhibits a shocking amount of leadership
malfesance as it stubbornly refuses to recognize and adapt to realities in
the launch business.
I know, I know maybe NEXT year someone rich will die and leave us a boatload
of cash. Or the bankrupt US government will suddenly cough up a billion
dollars for some orbiting emergency communication system. In the meantime we
have to stifle the truth because it might blow yet another *secret* deal
that's in the works and *almost* a done deal, so let's not complain publicly
and ruin it.
Heard the stories, heard the lies, got all the t-shirts and ball caps.
Whatever.
--
Jeff, KE9V
AMSAT-NA member since 1994,
Skeptic that we will ever go back to HEO since 2002
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:46:52 -0600
From: "Dave" <dave@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Re: The Moon is our Future
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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Could the antenna be a launched in the craft as piece of small, folded
reflective plastic that when activated by gas or ??, expands to a dish
shape, and becomes a super large plastic large dish? The dish then could be
any size we wanted it to be and not be a hindrance to the launch craft size.
I've seen these but have trouble no putting my finger on the name. We could
make the dish 30ft around and folded it could be 4 inches square.
Dave
DM78qd // KA0SWT
If it weren't for Philo T. Farnsworth, inventor of television, we'd still be
eating frozen radio dinners.-- Johnny Carson
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-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Tony Langdon
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:07 PM
To: James French; AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future
At 02:30 AM 7/3/2009, James French wrote:
>Why not use a L/s, U/L. or a U/s transponder for this?
>Why limit ourselves to V/u for everything?
>Aren't we supposed to 'experiment' with the higher frequencies we have
>allocated?
I agree. I believe the Moon is a job for the microwave bands. Antenna gain
on both ends is easier to produce (for a fixed dish/array, the Moon end will
be gain limited by the need to have the beam cover for the varying position
of the Earth due to libration).
Comeing up with a method to align the antenna initially will be an
interesting challenge. That will have to be automated, even if it's a one
off process.
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:00:45 -0600
From: "Dave" <dave@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: Re: The Moon is our Future
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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Ooopps... Sorry. It's $20 million.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6993373.stm
Dave
DM78qd // KA0SWT
If it weren't for Philo T. Farnsworth, inventor of television, we'd still be
eating frozen radio dinners.-- Johnny Carson
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:46 AM
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Re: The Moon is our Future
We have met the enemy and they are us. WE need to do something. Yes, $15m is
outta reach, but isn't there a cash prize for the first on-commercial moon
landing?
Dave
DM78qd // KA0SWT
If it weren't for Philo T. Farnsworth, inventor of television, we'd still be
eating frozen radio dinners.-- Johnny Carson
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Jeff Davis
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:35 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 06:48:51AM -0600, Jack K. wrote:
> communications anyway) and move forward... We can put up all the leos
> we want, but until someone makes something like B. Bruninga's cell
> concept work, we are only going to have more of the same, We don't
> need more of the same!
I couldn't agree more - we don't need more of the same.
If I want to sit back and have a two hour rag-chew with someone on the other
side of the planet I will use Skype or my cell phone!
Dreaming about what *might* be in space is a fun exercise. Actually doing
something about it requires sending things to LEO because reality has
dictated that's as far as we can afford to go.
How's about we use some of that frustrated *imagineering* to come up with
interesting new concepts at LEO? We don't need any more FM repeaters buzzing
overhead, but what about more cameras downloading HD images, scientific
payloads that monitor the ongoing climate change, payloads to study the
Earth's magnetic field, etc. etc. Our own 'Twitter' messaging network from
space...?
The Apollo 13 creed of "failure is not an option" has completely infected
the brains at AMSAT and this list. You want something at HEO or on the moon,
cut a check for $15 million dollars and let's get on with it. Been waiting
since 1996 for another AO-13 and I am getting too old to keep waiting.
AMSAT is becoming completely irrelevant as it strives without success for
the impossible mission and exhibits a shocking amount of leadership
malfesance as it stubbornly refuses to recognize and adapt to realities in
the launch business.
I know, I know maybe NEXT year someone rich will die and leave us a boatload
of cash. Or the bankrupt US government will suddenly cough up a billion
dollars for some orbiting emergency communication system. In the meantime we
have to stifle the truth because it might blow yet another *secret* deal
that's in the works and *almost* a done deal, so let's not complain publicly
and ruin it.
Heard the stories, heard the lies, got all the t-shirts and ball caps.
Whatever.
--
Jeff, KE9V
AMSAT-NA member since 1994,
Skeptic that we will ever go back to HEO since 2002
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:04:53 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: [keps] orb09176.2l.amsat - old keps
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Old keps 6/25/09
Roger
WA1KAT
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To: "AMSAT KEP" <keps@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:29 PM
Subject: [keps] orb09176.2l.amsat
> SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORB09176.N
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> FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX June 25, 2009
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> CO-65
> 1 32785U 08021C 09176.70268926 .00000096 00000-0 19000-4 0 4005
> 2 32785 097.9453 240.5990 0015235 008.3830 351.7612 14.81493670 62704
> KKS-1
> 1 33493U 09002B 09176.88419017 .00000186 00000-0 31251-4 0 5081
> 2 33493 098.0580 289.1313 0019414 210.4079 149.6019 14.80688384 22759
> SOHLA-1
> 1 33496U 09002E 09176.83034283 .00000002 00000-0 85078-5 0 4709
> 2 33496 098.0391 286.0037 0005305 254.2821 105.7805 14.69437775 22542
> NOAA-10
> 1 16969U 86073A 09175.72772319 .00000084 00000-0 52192-4 0 06649
> 2 16969 098.6905 202.3341 0012293 171.0362 189.1022 14.27389512184583
> NOAA-11
> 1 19531U 88089A 09175.49113686 -.00000001 00000-0 22039-4 0 06777
> 2 19531 098.7869 265.3322 0012413 089.4171 270.8423 14.14897749070559
> NOAA-12
> 1 21263U 91032A 09175.96824484 .00000005 00000-0 20866-4 0 01898
> 2 21263 098.7709 184.0309 0013207 120.1820 240.0669 14.25583101941504
> MET-3/5
> 1 21655U 91056A 09175.97408281 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 07247
> 2 21655 082.5516 200.9922 0013420 155.9174 204.2578 13.17019186858651
> MET-2/21
> 1 22782U 93055A 09175.55519873 .00000031 00000-0 14802-4 0 04941
> 2 22782 082.5466 176.1630 0021530 329.9082 030.0833 13.83635925798626
> OKEAN-4
> 1 23317U 94066A 09175.72556791 .00000072 00000-0 59111-5 0 09446
> 2 23317 082.5393 327.4493 0021923 344.4490 015.6042 14.82704198793488
> NOAA-14
> 1 23455U 94089A 09175.74336266 -.00000102 00000-0 -30207-4 0 06671
> 2 23455 098.9099 253.3970 0009753 164.3299 195.8158 14.13764053746998
> NOAA-15
> 1 25338U 98030A 09175.56723357 .00000231 00000-0 11762-3 0 09807
> 2 25338 098.5834 164.6118 0011417 041.4774 318.7265 14.24769101577824
> RESURS
> 1 25394U 98043A 09176.66111299 -.00000005 00000-0 15515-4 0 2456
> 2 25394 098.3403 208.5784 0001243 145.6858 214.4401 14.24184484569605
> FENGYUN1
> 1 25730U 99025A 09175.95755151 -.00000296 00000-0 -14902-3 0 07909
> 2 25730 098.7559 145.8910 0019535 193.1400 166.9258 14.07910508521416
> OKEAN-0
> 1 25860U 99039A 09176.52362912 -.00000001 00000-0 71323-5 0 7131
> 2 25860 097.7858 157.3718 0001574 101.9779 258.1597 14.73577805534376
> NOAA-16
> 1 26536U 00055A 09175.51746078 -.00000240 00000-0 -10443-3 0 04574
> 2 26536 099.1751 179.3604 0009521 260.3387 099.6709 14.12521443451335
> NOAA-17
> 1 27453U 02032A 09175.72931123 -.00000104 00000-0 -27140-4 0 04639
> 2 27453 098.4841 234.5396 0012832 101.2955 258.9659 14.24071269363820
> NOAA-18
> 1 28654U 05018A 09175.77495941 -.00000064 00000-0 -10703-4 0 09523
> 2 28654 098.9075 118.9557 0014109 346.1912 013.8898 14.11264390211026
> NOAA-19
> 1 33591U 09005A 09175.75659977 .00000369 00000-0 22915-3 0 01556
> 2 33591 098.7461 121.3211 0013431 218.6593 141.3620 14.10967917019502
> HUBBLE
> 1 20580U 90037B 09174.09806668 .00000242 00000-0 57594-5 0 04110
> 2 20580 028.4694 063.7168 0003244 344.9911 015.0591 15.00810340850742
> ISS
> 1 25544U 98067A 09176.70194252 .00010931 00000-0 79349-4 0 1041
> 2 25544 051.6411 263.1881 0008223 149.5961 346.7696 15.73976504607291
> CO-58
> 1 28895U 05043F 09175.67237911 .00000208 00000-0 52977-4 0 03349
> 2 28895 098.0614 066.0811 0017335 327.9567 032.0595 14.59777232194827
> FALCON
> 1 30776U 07006E 09176.79940574 .00000135 00000-0 12811-4 0 5985
> 2 30776 035.4341 047.1578 0001895 326.8877 033.1725 15.03259636126393
> MAST
> 1 31126U 07012K 09175.60683167 .00000091 00000-0 31516-4 0 06269
> 2 31126 097.9878 230.0731 0093481 256.9784 102.0982 14.53502988116112
> CAPE1
> 1 31130U 07012P 09176.82442862 .00000109 00000-0 36264-4 0 6326
> 2 31130 097.9885 229.3960 0101343 258.2616 100.7188 14.52066525115940
> COMPASS
> 1 32787U 08021E 09176.81388957 .00000337 00000-0 49540-4 0 3926
> 2 32787 097.9420 240.5656 0016079 008.8095 351.3396 14.81617948 62727
> AAUSAT2
> 1 32788U 08021F 09175.63305491 .00000324 00000-0 47758-4 0 03978
> 2 32788 097.9405 239.4526 0015832 013.9132 346.2550 14.81740836062558
> DO-64
> 1 32789U 08021G 09176.73525739 .00000223 00000-0 35028-4 0 4033
> 2 32789 097.9472 240.7144 0016099 008.4001 351.7477 14.81728343 62710
> CO-66
> 1 32791U 08021J 09176.85771567 -.00000022 00000-0 39697-5 0 3855
> 2 32791 097.9446 240.6417 0016252 007.2815 352.8608 14.81445218 62699
> RS-30
> 1 32953U 08025A 09175.75582124 .00000010 00000-0 00000-0 0 03392
> 2 32953 082.5011 251.9048 0019640 158.5884 201.6028 12.43001863049335
> TACSAT-3
> 1 35001U 09028A 09175.93379220 .00000878 00000-0 28137-4 0 00398
> 2 35001 040.4546 194.3312 0025115 222.1467 137.7416 15.38854406005542
> PHARMSAT
> 1 35002U 09028B 09175.46165344 .00000788 00000-0 25273-4 0 00395
> 2 35002 040.4677 196.9365 0027767 222.7881 137.0772 15.39623457005465
> HAWKSAT1
> 1 35003U 09028C 09174.48276175 .00000576 00000-0 19942-4 0 00382
> 2 35003 040.4696 202.7207 0028682 217.3307 142.5515 15.39876872005320
> CP6
> 1 35004U 09028D 09176.16548937 .00001922 00000-0 52153-4 0 295
> 2 35004 040.4601 192.5592 0028371 231.4161 128.4108 15.40085915 5570
> AEROCUB3
> 1 35005U 09028E 09175.71597130 .00001954 00000-0 53235-4 0 00304
> 2 35005 040.4761 195.3626 0028388 225.3310 134.5197 15.39903107005502
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:09:59 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] sorry...old 6/25/09 keps without all the garbage
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SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORB09176.N
2Line Orbital Elements 09176.AMSAT
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX June 25, 2009
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DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY:
1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
AO-07
1 07530U 74089B 09175.75015012 -.00000027 00000-0 10000-3 0 5121
2 07530 101.4266 200.1487 0011548 253.4118 106.5685 12.53575790583665
FO-29
1 24278U 96046B 09175.76747098 -.00000037 00000-0 50709-6 0 00863
2 24278 098.5539 048.7848 0350587 330.9181 027.2821 13.52944157634776
SO-33
1 25509U 98061B 09175.88466058 .00000381 00000-0 65939-4 0 04849
2 25509 031.4322 008.9480 0354276 045.8279 317.0947 14.28254882556932
RS-22
1 27939U 03042A 09175.58345773 .00000153 00000-0 38391-4 0 08247
2 27939 097.9444 050.1848 0014639 107.5940 252.6873 14.63325076306654
VO-52
1 28650U 05017B 09175.34334044 .00000376 00000-0 54172-4 0 02577
2 28650 097.7424 236.6888 0027183 008.8245 351.3438 14.81596988223705
AO-16
1 20439U 90005D 09175.47168576 -.00000018 00000-0 85527-5 0 06357
2 20439 098.2785 143.5419 0011258 144.6504 215.5414 14.31826786014190
LO-19
1 20442U 90005G 09175.45760117 .00000021 00000-0 22821-4 0 05559
2 20442 098.2408 150.7636 0012428 141.9606 218.2471 14.32062565014359
AO-27
1 22825U 93061C 09175.56625056 -.00000100 00000-0 -22655-4 0 02759
2 22825 098.4363 128.7578 0007725 237.6929 122.3504 14.29267387820962
IO-26
1 22826U 93061D 09176.74504781 -.00000019 00000-0 90005-5 0 23
2 22826 098.4300 130.6439 0008091 232.0525 127.9928 14.29519950821238
GO-32
1 25397U 98043D 09175.73599878 .00000118 00000-0 70396-4 0 09278
2 25397 098.3262 197.6718 0000667 180.5458 179.5710 14.23160891569204
NO-44
1 26931U 01043C 09175.70042414 .00000090 00000-0 67347-4 0 02020
2 26931 067.0532 044.9895 0005659 272.6391 087.4033 14.29560557403657
SO-50
1 27607U 02058C 09175.52809685 -.00000083 00000-0 91958-5 0 09182
2 27607 064.5582 002.7936 0066368 204.0590 155.7400 14.71442765349751
CO-55
1 27844U 03031E 09176.72554986 .00000011 00000-0 25192-4 0 6083
2 27844 098.7127 185.7703 0010937 115.9668 244.2612 14.20643376310470
CO-57
1 27848U 03031J 09175.57723077 .00000018 00000-0 28635-4 0 5551
2 27848 098.7141 183.6982 0010218 121.6656 238.5513 14.20444859310278
AO-51
1 28375U 04025K 09176.57690259 .00000003 00000-0 13263-4 0 4214
2 28375 098.0512 185.6902 0084770 099.1173 261.9616 14.40645546262166
CO-56
1 28941U 06005C 09176.55364702 .00065207 40470-5 20794-3 0 1975
2 28941 098.1393 352.5601 0082223 101.0558 259.9954 15.85707484188579
GENESAT1
1 29655U 06058C 09175.96435867 .00007422 00000-0 74015-4 0 07462
2 29655 040.0233 134.5766 0002092 231.9162 128.1467 15.65742955143691
CP3
1 31129U 07012N 09176.71624616 .00000102 00000-0 34509-4 0 182
2 31129 097.9885 229.3834 0101257 258.7852 100.1941 14.52141115116120
CO-65
1 32785U 08021C 09176.70268926 .00000096 00000-0 19000-4 0 4005
2 32785 097.9453 240.5990 0015235 008.3830 351.7612 14.81493670 62704
KKS-1
1 33493U 09002B 09176.88419017 .00000186 00000-0 31251-4 0 5081
2 33493 098.0580 289.1313 0019414 210.4079 149.6019 14.80688384 22759
SOHLA-1
1 33496U 09002E 09176.83034283 .00000002 00000-0 85078-5 0 4709
2 33496 098.0391 286.0037 0005305 254.2821 105.7805 14.69437775 22542
NOAA-10
1 16969U 86073A 09175.72772319 .00000084 00000-0 52192-4 0 06649
2 16969 098.6905 202.3341 0012293 171.0362 189.1022 14.27389512184583
NOAA-11
1 19531U 88089A 09175.49113686 -.00000001 00000-0 22039-4 0 06777
2 19531 098.7869 265.3322 0012413 089.4171 270.8423 14.14897749070559
NOAA-12
1 21263U 91032A 09175.96824484 .00000005 00000-0 20866-4 0 01898
2 21263 098.7709 184.0309 0013207 120.1820 240.0669 14.25583101941504
MET-3/5
1 21655U 91056A 09175.97408281 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 07247
2 21655 082.5516 200.9922 0013420 155.9174 204.2578 13.17019186858651
MET-2/21
1 22782U 93055A 09175.55519873 .00000031 00000-0 14802-4 0 04941
2 22782 082.5466 176.1630 0021530 329.9082 030.0833 13.83635925798626
OKEAN-4
1 23317U 94066A 09175.72556791 .00000072 00000-0 59111-5 0 09446
2 23317 082.5393 327.4493 0021923 344.4490 015.6042 14.82704198793488
NOAA-14
1 23455U 94089A 09175.74336266 -.00000102 00000-0 -30207-4 0 06671
2 23455 098.9099 253.3970 0009753 164.3299 195.8158 14.13764053746998
NOAA-15
1 25338U 98030A 09175.56723357 .00000231 00000-0 11762-3 0 09807
2 25338 098.5834 164.6118 0011417 041.4774 318.7265 14.24769101577824
RESURS
1 25394U 98043A 09176.66111299 -.00000005 00000-0 15515-4 0 2456
2 25394 098.3403 208.5784 0001243 145.6858 214.4401 14.24184484569605
FENGYUN1
1 25730U 99025A 09175.95755151 -.00000296 00000-0 -14902-3 0 07909
2 25730 098.7559 145.8910 0019535 193.1400 166.9258 14.07910508521416
OKEAN-0
1 25860U 99039A 09176.52362912 -.00000001 00000-0 71323-5 0 7131
2 25860 097.7858 157.3718 0001574 101.9779 258.1597 14.73577805534376
NOAA-16
1 26536U 00055A 09175.51746078 -.00000240 00000-0 -10443-3 0 04574
2 26536 099.1751 179.3604 0009521 260.3387 099.6709 14.12521443451335
NOAA-17
1 27453U 02032A 09175.72931123 -.00000104 00000-0 -27140-4 0 04639
2 27453 098.4841 234.5396 0012832 101.2955 258.9659 14.24071269363820
NOAA-18
1 28654U 05018A 09175.77495941 -.00000064 00000-0 -10703-4 0 09523
2 28654 098.9075 118.9557 0014109 346.1912 013.8898 14.11264390211026
NOAA-19
1 33591U 09005A 09175.75659977 .00000369 00000-0 22915-3 0 01556
2 33591 098.7461 121.3211 0013431 218.6593 141.3620 14.10967917019502
HUBBLE
1 20580U 90037B 09174.09806668 .00000242 00000-0 57594-5 0 04110
2 20580 028.4694 063.7168 0003244 344.9911 015.0591 15.00810340850742
ISS
1 25544U 98067A 09176.70194252 .00010931 00000-0 79349-4 0 1041
2 25544 051.6411 263.1881 0008223 149.5961 346.7696 15.73976504607291
CO-58
1 28895U 05043F 09175.67237911 .00000208 00000-0 52977-4 0 03349
2 28895 098.0614 066.0811 0017335 327.9567 032.0595 14.59777232194827
FALCON
1 30776U 07006E 09176.79940574 .00000135 00000-0 12811-4 0 5985
2 30776 035.4341 047.1578 0001895 326.8877 033.1725 15.03259636126393
MAST
1 31126U 07012K 09175.60683167 .00000091 00000-0 31516-4 0 06269
2 31126 097.9878 230.0731 0093481 256.9784 102.0982 14.53502988116112
CAPE1
1 31130U 07012P 09176.82442862 .00000109 00000-0 36264-4 0 6326
2 31130 097.9885 229.3960 0101343 258.2616 100.7188 14.52066525115940
COMPASS
1 32787U 08021E 09176.81388957 .00000337 00000-0 49540-4 0 3926
2 32787 097.9420 240.5656 0016079 008.8095 351.3396 14.81617948 62727
AAUSAT2
1 32788U 08021F 09175.63305491 .00000324 00000-0 47758-4 0 03978
2 32788 097.9405 239.4526 0015832 013.9132 346.2550 14.81740836062558
DO-64
1 32789U 08021G 09176.73525739 .00000223 00000-0 35028-4 0 4033
2 32789 097.9472 240.7144 0016099 008.4001 351.7477 14.81728343 62710
CO-66
1 32791U 08021J 09176.85771567 -.00000022 00000-0 39697-5 0 3855
2 32791 097.9446 240.6417 0016252 007.2815 352.8608 14.81445218 62699
RS-30
1 32953U 08025A 09175.75582124 .00000010 00000-0 00000-0 0 03392
2 32953 082.5011 251.9048 0019640 158.5884 201.6028 12.43001863049335
TACSAT-3
1 35001U 09028A 09175.93379220 .00000878 00000-0 28137-4 0 00398
2 35001 040.4546 194.3312 0025115 222.1467 137.7416 15.38854406005542
PHARMSAT
1 35002U 09028B 09175.46165344 .00000788 00000-0 25273-4 0 00395
2 35002 040.4677 196.9365 0027767 222.7881 137.0772 15.39623457005465
HAWKSAT1
1 35003U 09028C 09174.48276175 .00000576 00000-0 19942-4 0 00382
2 35003 040.4696 202.7207 0028682 217.3307 142.5515 15.39876872005320
CP6
1 35004U 09028D 09176.16548937 .00001922 00000-0 52153-4 0 295
2 35004 040.4601 192.5592 0028371 231.4161 128.4108 15.40085915 5570
AEROCUB3
1 35005U 09028E 09175.71597130 .00001954 00000-0 53235-4 0 00304
2 35005 040.4761 195.3626 0028388 225.3310 134.5197 15.39903107005502
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