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1. Satellites operation (Julie & Stephen)
2. FW: Satellites operation (Pierre van Deventer)
3. Re: Satellites operation (stephen_hayman@xxxx.xx.xxx
4. AMSAT-UK Colloquium Bookings - Two weeksd to go! (Jim Heck)
5. Re: Satellites operation (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
6. An amazing AO-7 QSO last week, Brazil to Belgium (Mark Lunday)
7. Re: equal time (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: An amazing AO-7 QSO last week, Brazil to Belgium
(Jim Reisert AD1C)
9. Re: An amazing AO-7 QSO last week, Brazil to Belgium
(n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
10. AO-51 Basement operation!!! (Luc Leblanc)
11. Re: An amazing AO-7 QSO last week, Brazil to Belgium
(n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
12. Re: AO-51 Basement operation!!! (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:05:25 +1000 (EST)
From: Julie & Stephen <stephen_hayman@xxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites operation
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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New to SAT ? BB (one week)
?
Could I please ask ? how many SATs are currently active carrying transponder
for amateur radio voice communication.
?
And the designators as called (such as AO-7, AO-51 etc) and which SATs are
linear (SSB / CW) and non linear (FM)
?
Regards,
Stephen ZL1TPH
?
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:25:48 +0200
From: "Pierre van Deventer" <pierrevd@xxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Satellites operation
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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Have a look at the Amsat NA site: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-
new/satellites/status.php
I think all the info you need.
73, Pierre ZS6BB
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Of Julie & Stephen
Sent: 15 June 2009 07:05
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites operation
New to SAT ? BB (one week)
Could I please ask ? how many SATs are currently active carrying transponder
for amateur radio voice communication.
And the designators as called (such as AO-7, AO-51 etc) and which SATs are
linear (SSB / CW) and non linear (FM)
Regards,
Stephen ZL1TPH
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:08:05 +1000 (EST)
From: stephen_hayman@xxxx.xx.xx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellites operation
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Appreciate that Pierre ,
?
But looking at the URL it does state the?Operational OSCAR Satellite Status
Summary..?
?
It does not state any date, apart from a copy right that dates 2004 - 2006
that is seen as misleading maybe..
?
What I would like [if possible] in reality what is available / in use / in the
real world?.
?
I would like to disseminate this in brief notes in our VHF Scene in our
National association magazine?
?
PS over the years, many contacts on OSCAR 6 and 7A + 7B both modes ? 7B only
recommended narrow modes ? but with varactor tripler slipped the odd FM
contact in ?
?
Best DX out of ZL into ZL5TAA [operater Ted ZL2TAX orbit 9679] on OSCAR 7 mode
B - 1976 ? and KC4AAA with OSCAR 6 before that .. many others
?
DL on a A0-40 ? 7minute window ? 13cm ? 70cm downlink / uplink ? QSL?s in the
shoe box..
?
A bit about myself to the reflector ? not sure how many on ? thanks again
Pierre
?
73 Steve ZL1TPH
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Pierre van Deventer <pierrevd@xxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
From: Pierre van Deventer <pierrevd@xxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Satellites operation
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Received: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 6:25 PM
Have a look at the Amsat NA site: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-
new/satellites/status.php
I think all the info you need.
73, Pierre ZS6BB
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf
Of Julie & Stephen
Sent: 15 June 2009 07:05
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellites operation
New to SAT ? BB (one week)
Could I please ask ? how many SATs are currently active carrying transponder
for amateur radio voice communication.
And the designators as called (such as AO-7, AO-51 etc) and which SATs are
linear (SSB / CW) and non linear (FM)
Regards,
Stephen ZL1TPH
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:38:56 +0100
From: "Jim Heck" <jim@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium Bookings - Two weeksd to go!
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Folks,
If you are considering attending the AMSAT-UK Colloquium at the Holiday Inn,
Guildford, UK on 25/26 July, you should be booking soon.
The hotel will only hold rooms for us until Fri 3 July, after that date, you
may
find that there are no more rooms available.
Also please note that so far more than 50% of people attending have booked
in for
the Friday Night before the Colloquium, and the hotel tells me that they are
now
getting quite full on this night.
So PLEASE BOOK EARLY to avoid dissappointment.
Full booking details, includiong prices are at
http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/25/49/
The phone number of the hotel is +44 (0) 1483 784444 and their email address
is
meetings-guildford@xxx.xxx. Please quote reference R0F (That?s R zero F) when
booking.
73s
Jim Heck, G3WGM
Hone Sec AMSAT-UK
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:38:14 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellites operation
To: Julie & Stephen <stephen_hayman@xxxx.xx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Single-channel FM Satellites in operation:
AO-27 - Mode J, 145.850 mHz up/436.795 (+/- Doppler) down
AO-51 - Mode J, Active frequencies change. Check the AMSAT-NA Web site for
current configuration.
SO-50 - Mode J, 145.850 mHz up/436.795 (+/- Doppler) down with a PL tone of
67.0 Hz.
International Space Station (when active) - Mode B, 437.800 mHz up/145.800 mHz
down.
CW/SSB Satellites in operation
AO-7 - Mode B mid-passband is 432.150 mHz up/145.950 mHz down.
FO-29 - Mode J mid passband is 145.950 mHz up/435.850 mHz down.
VO-52 - Mode B mid passband is 435.250 mHz up/145.900 mHz down.
Doppler, of course, also will affect the CW/SSB satellites.
Welcome to the satellites! Very best 73s,
Tim - N3TL
-------------- Original message from Julie & Stephen
<stephen_hayman@xxxx.xx.xx>: --------------
> New to SAT ? BB (one week)
> Could I please ask ? how many SATs are currently active carrying
transponder
> for amateur radio voice communication.
> And the designators as called (such as AO-7, AO-51 etc) and which SATs are
> linear (SSB / CW) and non linear (FM)
>
> Regards,
> Stephen ZL1TPH
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:38:57 -0400
From: "Mark Lunday" <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] An amazing AO-7 QSO last week, Brazil to Belgium
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000901c9edb6$4051c020$c0f54060$@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Brazil to Belgium. Hey Tim, N3TL, you have been doing some of this type of
planning with great success. What is the longest QSO you have achieved?
What tools are you using for planning on the low passes? Your efforts are
fascinating and we would like to know more.
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2009/ao7_brazil_belgium_contact.htm
Mark Lunday
WD4ELG
<mailto:wd4elg@xxxx.xxx> wd4elg@xxxx.xxx
<http://wd4elg.net> http://wd4elg.net
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:20:23 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: equal time
To: "Adrian Engele" <aa5uk@xxxxx.xxx>, <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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> I agree K5D could have done a better job in their satellite operations. At
> minimum a simple rotor and even a fixed antenna at 15 degrees with a two
> radios on all the current satellites would have worked >better and would
> have probably provided more operators the chance to work K5D. A fulll
> blown setup with an AZ/EL rotor and doppler tracking would have been the
> perfect setup considering all the >other equipment that was brought to the
> K5D DXpedition. It would be interesting to understand what planning was
> done for satellites operations for K5D. I won't speculate. FM satellites
> may not be the >ideal satellites for a DXPedition but not everybody has
> the gear to work the linear brids. I think it comes down to the DX
> operator. FM satellites can be worked on a
> DXpedition. I had some pile ups on numerous passes and I was able to work
> many stations with some discipline and good ears. It takes an operator
> with contesting experience to work a pile up and >maintain order. Still it
> is very challenging especially on such operations as K5D. Not sure what to
> do in the future.
>
I don't think Gary or Mike are on this list, so I hope they won't mind me
speaking for them. K5D on satellite was, as DXpeditions go, a last minute
miracle. It was either a handheld and antenna that someone could take in
their personal gear or nothing. So as much as I wish they'd have been able
to take SSB/CW gear and bigger antennas, etc, I'm not going to look a gift
horse in the mouth. Big DXpeditions like that are always going to
concentrate on as many HF contacts as possible, as quickly as possible, so
we were very lucky Gary and Mike agreed to take the sat gear as a diversion
when offered.
Meanwhile, I've had no inquiries from other DXpeditions about using the
gear. If you know someone going somewhere, please let them know about the
availability, and maybe take a chance at mentoring them on satellites. If
the program proves popular enough I will try to add in SSB/CW capability as
a second equipment package.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:03:20 -0600
From: Jim Reisert AD1C <jjreisert@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: An amazing AO-7 QSO last week, Brazil to
Belgium
To: Mark Lunday <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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"Back in the day" (late 70's / early 80's) W1JR and I were both active
on AO-7 Mode B from FN42hn. I believe he had two one-way QSOs with
KH6 but never completed a QSO. Once he was heard, once he heard the
other station. In those days, you had plastic cut-outs which you
overlapped on a piece of paper to see when the windows would
intersect. I think the two were tangential, so there was only a very
tiny window during which a QSO was possible.
73 - Jim AD1C
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Mark Lunday<mlunday@xx.xx.xxx> wrote:
> Brazil to Belgium. ?Hey Tim, N3TL, you have been doing some of this type of
> planning with great success. ?What is the longest QSO you have achieved?
> What tools are you using for planning on the low passes? ?Your efforts are
> fascinating and we would like to know more.
>
> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2009/ao7_brazil_belgium_contact.htm
--
Jim Reisert AD1C/?, <jjreisert@xxxx.xxx.xxx>, http://www.ad1c.us
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:07:11 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: An amazing AO-7 QSO last week, Brazil to
Belgium
To: "Mark Lunday" <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<061520091407.29463.4A36558E000A93E50000731722230680329B0A02D2089B9A019C
04040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
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Hey Mark,
Well, you know, I hadn't bothered to check the point-to-point distances for
any of the European contacts, the African (Canary Islands) contact or my
contact with AL1F in western Alaska. I have now, and I'm surprised by what I
discovered.
Specifically, DJ8NY and I have worked twice, both times in CW, on early
morning passes of AO-7 coming from my north-northeast. Based on the
coordinates I found for the address shown on the hamcall.net Web site (he is
not listed on QRZ.com), and based on the "Miles Per Watt Calculator" on the
Web site of the QRP Amateur Radio Club International (QRP-ARCI), I learned
that each of our contacts covered approximately 7,124 km or 4,427 miles. I
hadn't expected to be that close to the Brazil-to-Belgium contact, so that was
a pleasant surprise.
FYI - In using the Miles Per Watt Calculator, I entered the six-digit grid
locators for each station (EM84ha for N3TL and JO31ub for DJ8NY), then left
the "wattage" set at one so I would get the actual distance between the two
locations.
Now ... I'd like to offer a few paragraphs about the extensive planning and
calculating I did to enable the contacts - but that would be as humorous as it
would be false. All I did was use the "Simulation" mode in Orbitron to see
what part of Europe would be in the footprint of our Grand Old Girl on these
low-angle passes to my north-northeast. Same with Alaska, albeit for evening
passes to my north-northwest.
When passes gave me a good "look" to Europe, I simply started calling CQ in
CW.
I had been trying to work Alaska for months, with regular emails between AL1F,
KL7XJ and me. We got close more than a few times, but no log entry. I was
thrilled to work Joe, AL1F, on consecutive passes of AO-7 to get Alaska in the
log here.
I believe strongly that the key to all of these contacts was my addition of
computer-controlled Doppler tuning because it freed me up to concentrate on my
3-part az/el antenna system (i.e., shoulder, elbow and wrist ... hihi).
Seriously, my ability to focus specifically on where and how I was pointing
the ol' Elk made the difference for me in making those contacts. I watched the
az/el numbers on SatPC 32 as a pass unfolded, and did my level best to be
dead-on with them.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
-------------- Original message from "Mark Lunday" <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>: ------
--------
> Brazil to Belgium. Hey Tim, N3TL, you have been doing some of this type of
> planning with great success. What is the longest QSO you have achieved?
> What tools are you using for planning on the low passes? Your efforts are
> fascinating and we would like to know more.
>
>
>
> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2009/ao7_brazil_belgium_contact.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Lunday
>
> WD4ELG
>
> wd4elg@xxxx.xxx
>
> http://wd4elg.net
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:38:54 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 Basement operation!!!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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Hi
I just try AO-51 V/S mode this morning 0700am pass. I was checking a new S
band beam and it was a success nearly all the fades disappear
comparing to my former WMAX beam. But i was not able to uplink to the
satellite only to discover a frightening flaw in my setup i was
transmitting in the same VHF port that i used for my 2.4GHZ downconverter. Too
early in the morning and probably not awaken enough i
immediately stopped transmitting and OH surprised the DC does not blow up?
But what about the 847 finals...they survive about 10 transmission... In the
middle of the pass and the DC still working i cannot switch my
rig/antenna fast enough i take my HT DJ-580T with his rubber duck antenna and
i punch the uplink frequency then and i called Doug KD8CAO
who was calling in the void since the beginning of the pass and at the same
time i heard my downlink he answered me back...My Alinco was at
5W. But the amazing part "i was in my basement..." It is a living proof that
the hard part is the receiving side. My last basement record
was on AO-16 50w on a dual band mobile antenna on a metal file cabinet.
P.S. i will buy a lotto ticket today i feel the stars where on my side this
morning:)
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:16:49 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: An amazing AO-7 QSO last week, Brazil to
Belgium
To: Jim Reisert AD1C <jjreisert@xxxx.xxx.xxx>, Mark Lunday
<mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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<061520091516.23858.4A3665E10007328A00005D3222216128369B0A02D2089B9A019C
04040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
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Hey Jim,
I can't begin to imagine how much computer software has impacted the
predictability of possible openings.
Hawaii from here at EM84ha is possible, and I have heard myself on the Mode B
downlink (in CW) at times during which KH6 was in the footprint.
It appears, however, that there is only one operator on any of the islands who
is capable of working AO-7, and he is topographically challenged at azimuth
positions that would work for a low-angle contact between our stations. To get
below 4 degrees elevation, he tells me he need an azimuth position fomr his
location of about 10 degrees - and that won't work for me here.
An all-mode radio like an IC-7000 or FT-857D with an Elk, hand-held would make
the trip, although an operator over there would need a second radio for
receive. Maybe some day, someone will make a trip to the big island of Hawaii
and operate portable from a good elevation. That's my best hope for Hawaii.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
-------------- Original message from Jim Reisert AD1C
<jjreisert@xxxx.xxx.xxx>: --------------
> "Back in the day" (late 70's / early 80's) W1JR and I were both active
> on AO-7 Mode B from FN42hn. I believe he had two one-way QSOs with
> KH6 but never completed a QSO. Once he was heard, once he heard the
> other station. In those days, you had plastic cut-outs which you
> overlapped on a piece of paper to see when the windows would
> intersect. I think the two were tangential, so there was only a very
> tiny window during which a QSO was possible.
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Mark Lunday wrote:
>
> > Brazil to Belgium. Hey Tim, N3TL, you have been doing some of this type
of
> > planning with great success. What is the longest QSO you have achieved?
> > What tools are you using for planning on the low passes? Your efforts are
> > fascinating and we would like to know more.
> >
> > http://www.southgatearc.org/news/june2009/ao7_brazil_belgium_contact.htm
>
> --
> Jim Reisert AD1C/?, , http://www.ad1c.us
>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:28:05 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Basement operation!!!
To: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<061520091428.22136.4A365A7500013A680000567822230680329B0A02D2089B9A019C
04040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
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Congratulations Luc!
Many here already know that my "base" operation includes hand-holding my Elk
antenna and manually tracking the satelltes from inside my home.
Without question, optimizing one's receive side is the most important
consideration.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
-------------- Original message from Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>: -
-------------
> Hi
>
> I just try AO-51 V/S mode this morning 0700am pass. I was checking a new S
band
> beam and it was a success nearly all the fades disappear comparing to my
former WMAX beam. But i was not able to uplink to the satellite
> only to discover a frightening flaw in my setup i was transmitting in the
same VHF port that i used for my 2.4GHZ downconverter. Too
> early in the morning and probably not awaken enough i
> immediately stopped transmitting and OH surprised the DC does not blow up?
> But what about the 847 finals...they survive about 10 transmission... In the
> middle of the pass and the DC still working i cannot switch my rig/antenna
fast enough i take my HT DJ-580T with his rubber duck antenna and i
> punch the uplink frequency then and i called Doug KD8CAO who was calling in
the void since the beginning of the pass and at the same time
> i heard my downlink he answered me back...My Alinco was at 5W. But the
amazing part "i was in my basement..." It is a living proof that the
> hard part is the receiving side. My last basement record
> was on AO-16 50w on a dual band mobile antenna on a metal file cabinet.
>
> P.S. i will buy a lotto ticket today i feel the stars where on my side this
> morning:)
>
>
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
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