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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Full Duplex HT's (Howard Kowall) (Clint Bradford)
2. Re: DJ-G7T programming cable question (Edward Cole)
3. Full Duplex Radios - A Complete List (Andrew Koenig)
4. Re: DJ-G7T programming cable question (kd8bxp@xxx.xxxx
5. SO50 problems and questions (LeRoy Miller)
6. Re: SO50 problems and questions (Andrew Koenig)
7. Re: SO50 problems and questions (Andrew Koenig)
8. Re: Another satellite-receiver option (Art McBride)
9. New Satellites (Vincenzo Mone)
10. Re: DJ-G7T programming cable question (Gordon JC Pearce)
11. Re: SO50 problems and questions (Andrew Glasbrenner)
12. Hudson Valley Satcom Group Net Tomorrow June 11 At 8PM EDT
(Cotejaune2@xxx.xxxx
13. Re: Full Duplex HT's (Howard Kowall) (Ben Jackson)
14. Re: Another satellite-receiver option (Howard Kowall)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:08:31 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Full Duplex HT's (Howard Kowall)
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Howard - Tell "your friend" to stay away from Chinese crap and
purchase products approved by the governing boards of his own country.
Sorry for the attitude ... But China owns way to much of my country,
and all they produce is inferior crap that U.S. citizens eat up at Wal-
Mart and similar retailers. There are plenty of amateur radio
manufacturers who follow my country's rules from whom I choose to
purchase.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:33:08 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: DJ-G7T programming cable question
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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At 02:13 PM 6/9/2009, David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>Whether or not a question is raised after someone has actually tried
>to work it out for themselves or not is immaterial.
>
>If this reflector, which lets face it is concerned with some fairly
>high level stuff in comparison to normal ham radio operations), is
>going to go the way of responding to a perfectly reasonable question
>with the reply of "read the ******g manual", then newcomers and
>interested observers are going to beat a hasty retreat thinking that
>AMSAT is elitist.
>
>We must not be seen to be typical of the 'those that know' wanting
>to protect their playground mentality.
>
>I have asked some downright stupidly basic questions on here over
>the years and have always been responded to with friendliness and
>professionalism even though I have often had a mental picture of my
>"helpers" banging their heads against a wall in frustration. But on
>the back of that I have been able to help with other people's issues
>where the same question has arisen.
>
>If questions offend then use a combination of filters and the delete key.
>
>My 2 peso's worth.
>
>David KG4ZLB
As one who has answered a few questions over the years (many time the
same questions, repeatedly), it suggests placing the answers into a
FAQ on the web to refer folks to. But for each questioner its a
"new' question for them. So if you want to help, answer them. If
the question bores you, delete and let someone else help. I do think
many folks could find some of these answers with a little digging on
their own. But it all comes to helping or not. There are enough
experts on the bb to share the task.
73, Ed - KL7UW
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:43:02 -0500
From: Andrew Koenig <andrewkoenig@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Full Duplex Radios - A Complete List
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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After a couple of hours of surfing around on Universal Radio and other
radios sites that keep a good archive, I've completed the list of full
duplex radios. Use it however you want; print it out before a hamfest, post
it in your shack. All that I ask is that you let me know if there are any
errors on the list.
Full URL: <http://thathamkid.com/website/ham-radio/full-duplex-radios>
Shortend URL: <http://bit.ly/JclIa>
Also, up in the top right-hand corner of the article is a little icon of a
printer. For a printable version (without all of the template junk), click
that icon.
--
Andrew Koenig
73 de KE5GDB
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:29:08 +0000
From: kd8bxp@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: DJ-G7T programming cable question
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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If you have the manual you can look and see how the cable is wired up, then
look on line for the new radio and see if the cable is wired the same
If so then my guess would be they are the same cable
I have an ic-91ad and a kenwood th-d7ag - they use different cables (same plug
on the radio side) but if you look close they flipped I think two wires and
putting a null modem on the serial end makes them the same cable and it works
I have used it on both radios with the null modem for the kenwood
So you may even have a cable that will work and just need a null modem I think
it was like 7 bucks at radio shack
Good luck.
LeRoy, Kd8bxp
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From: Alan P. Biddle
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Subject: [amsat-bb] DJ-G7T programming cable question
Sent: Jun 9, 2009 3:07 PM
Hi,
In looking for a cost effective programming cable, I find that many
including the Alinco EWR-7 are listed on places like eBay as for "Alinco or
Icom." That strongly _suggests_ that the hardware is the same. I already
have the Alinco EDS-10 and a RT Systems Icom cable, so it looks as if I have
what I need. Google came up with a lot of good information, but I wasn't
able to find enough to determine whether they are in fact interchangeable.
Anybody have any definite knowledge?
73,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:18:11 +0000
From: "LeRoy Miller" <kd8bxp@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO50 problems and questions
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Hello
I am relatively new (- I have been tring on my own to get the hang of working
the satellites) with little or no luck.
I have been posting my failed results to twitter and getting over frustrated
in my attempts - luckly there have been a few who have given me pointers. And
one very nice person kl7cn let me call him and he talked me though a few
things during the call he said maybe I should try the SO50. So today I did try
it
And much to my surprise and happiness it was easy enough to pickup and find
and things seemed to working for me (He told me that is was a quite machine
and that I might have to look for it a bit)
The pass I tried was at 1710 UTC (110 pm local est) and the sat was moving
from the southwest to the northeast from my previous trys on the AO51 I knew
that I would probably not get it while it was still low (less then about 20
degrees - also because of where I was pointing the antenna that low I was
pointing right at a building) I reasoned that if I started looking at about 24
degrees I would being doing much better (so that is what I did) at about 1714
or 1715 UTC I had heard the SO51 for the first time, still a bit rough and
probably still a little low by the time it was up around the 40 degree mark I
thought
What the heck I am here, people are talking why not try to make a contact - so
that is what I did
I think I waited just a little longer got a nice strong signal and put my call
out
KD8BXP em79 --
What I heard on the downlink really surprised me - it was this horrable noise
(it almost sounded like when 2 people double) I don't know what I did but
thought ok maybe feedback from the microphone so I unpluged the external and
tried again
I got the same horrable sound
Now I am sorry up front for this noise I am sure people heard it - so if you
were on around 1717 - 1720 I am so sorry upfront
But that leads me to my question - what did I do wrong?
And how can I correct the problem and try again
I have been really frustrated with the AO51 so much so that I almost put my
rig antenna and what not on ebay 3 days ago - I cooled off but I really want
to work this bird
It seemed (at least to a newbie) an easy one to find and maybe make contacts
on.
You will need to know the setup:
TH-D7 A (not the G model I have a G but didn't use it this time)
Arrow (2 meter/440) mounted to a telescope tripod
Eeepc running ubuntu linux a gpredict
External mic for the radio
I was on 145.850 pl 67hz for the uplink
And 436.800 for the downlink
Radio was in duplex mode and sql was turned off (or open if you prefer)
And the balance on the speaker was set for only the 440 side
I was at 40 - 50 degrees when I first keyed up and the second time would have
been when it was at its highest point of between 64 and 74 degrees
I was on the high power setting
I have used this radio for both local repeater work and aprs and no one has
ever told me that it was making horrable noises
And I think if it was making horrable noises while transmitting aprs the data
would be corrpted
I hope I have given enough information. I hope someone can help I don't want
to make horrable noises again
One other thing but I am sure it is my problem not one that someone fix so to
speak
Once the satellite reached its max and started back down - I lost it
completely couldn't find it again
I think it was me one leg on the tripod is bent and started to collaspe while
I was turning the antenna to start it pointing in a north east direct
Thanks for the help in advance I write a lot to ask something simple sorry
about that
LeRoy, KD8BXP
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:22:01 -0500
From: Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO50 problems and questions
To: kd8bxp@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
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I would try taking the antenna off of the tripod for a little while. The
polarization of the satellites changes constantly, and with the antenna on
the tripod, it's difficult to compensate for those changes.
Also, AO-51 is a much stronger bird than SO-50, but AO-27 is the strongest
at the moment. AO-27 has the same frequencies as SO-50, but there is no
tone, and it's got a timer on it that turns it on when it reaches (about)
the Gulf Coast line (for the purposes of maintaining battery power). You'll
have time to get your antenna in the right place with the 20 seconds of
telemetry it starts with (see http://www.ao27.org/AO27/index.shtml for a
schedule).
For your situation, I would recommend trying AO-27 until you are familiar
with the satellites. AO-27 isn't as crowded as AO-51, but it's also not as
quiet (both in traffic and output) as SO-50.
Don't quote me on it, but I think AO-51 has less than 500mW output right
now, AO-27 is 500mW and SO-50 is 250mW.
Good luck! Once you get the hang of it, it's easy enoguh that a teenager can
do it (I'd know..)
73 de KE5GDB
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:18 PM, LeRoy Miller
<kd8bxp@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am relatively new (- I have been tring on my own to get the hang of
> working the satellites) with little or no luck.
>
> I have been posting my failed results to twitter and getting over
> frustrated in my attempts - luckly there have been a few who have given me
> pointers. And one very nice person kl7cn let me call him and he talked me
> though a few things during the call he said maybe I should try the SO50. So
> today I did try it
> And much to my surprise and happiness it was easy enough to pickup and find
> and things seemed to working for me (He told me that is was a quite machine
> and that I might have to look for it a bit)
> The pass I tried was at 1710 UTC (110 pm local est) and the sat was moving
> from the southwest to the northeast from my previous trys on the AO51 I knew
> that I would probably not get it while it was still low (less then about 20
> degrees - also because of where I was pointing the antenna that low I was
> pointing right at a building) I reasoned that if I started looking at about
> 24 degrees I would being doing much better (so that is what I did) at about
> 1714 or 1715 UTC I had heard the SO51 for the first time, still a bit rough
> and probably still a little low by the time it was up around the 40 degree
> mark I thought
> What the heck I am here, people are talking why not try to make a contact -
> so that is what I did
> I think I waited just a little longer got a nice strong signal and put my
> call out
>
> KD8BXP em79 --
> What I heard on the downlink really surprised me - it was this horrable
> noise (it almost sounded like when 2 people double) I don't know what I did
> but thought ok maybe feedback from the microphone so I unpluged the external
> and tried again
> I got the same horrable sound
>
> Now I am sorry up front for this noise I am sure people heard it - so if
> you were on around 1717 - 1720 I am so sorry upfront
>
> But that leads me to my question - what did I do wrong?
> And how can I correct the problem and try again
>
> I have been really frustrated with the AO51 so much so that I almost put my
> rig antenna and what not on ebay 3 days ago - I cooled off but I really want
> to work this bird
> It seemed (at least to a newbie) an easy one to find and maybe make
> contacts on.
>
> You will need to know the setup:
> TH-D7 A (not the G model I have a G but didn't use it this time)
> Arrow (2 meter/440) mounted to a telescope tripod
> Eeepc running ubuntu linux a gpredict
> External mic for the radio
> I was on 145.850 pl 67hz for the uplink
> And 436.800 for the downlink
> Radio was in duplex mode and sql was turned off (or open if you prefer)
> And the balance on the speaker was set for only the 440 side
> I was at 40 - 50 degrees when I first keyed up and the second time would
> have been when it was at its highest point of between 64 and 74 degrees
> I was on the high power setting
> I have used this radio for both local repeater work and aprs and no one has
> ever told me that it was making horrable noises
> And I think if it was making horrable noises while transmitting aprs the
> data would be corrpted
>
> I hope I have given enough information. I hope someone can help I don't
> want to make horrable noises again
>
> One other thing but I am sure it is my problem not one that someone fix so
> to speak
> Once the satellite reached its max and started back down - I lost it
> completely couldn't find it again
> I think it was me one leg on the tripod is bent and started to collaspe
> while I was turning the antenna to start it pointing in a north east direct
>
> Thanks for the help in advance I write a lot to ask something simple sorry
> about that
>
> LeRoy, KD8BXP
> Sent on the Now Network? from my Sprint? BlackBerry
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:32:32 -0500
From: Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO50 problems and questions
To: kd8bxp@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
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I also forgot to mention that a PreAmp makes all of the difference. I worked
a few passes with N5AFV this past weekend for Museum Ship weekend, and he
let me borrow his preamp. On AO-27, it went from an S-1 to an S6, and with
SO-50 it went from an S-0 (still audible though) to an S-4. I'll also
embarrassingly admit that I had my arrow pointed in the wrong direction (for
part of the pass), and AO-27 was still audible with an S3, but only with the
preamp.
I believe we used an AAR SP450VDA.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I would try taking the antenna off of the tripod for a little while. The
> polarization of the satellites changes constantly, and with the antenna on
> the tripod, it's difficult to compensate for those changes.
>
> Also, AO-51 is a much stronger bird than SO-50, but AO-27 is the strongest
> at the moment. AO-27 has the same frequencies as SO-50, but there is no
> tone, and it's got a timer on it that turns it on when it reaches (about)
> the Gulf Coast line (for the purposes of maintaining battery power). You'll
> have time to get your antenna in the right place with the 20 seconds of
> telemetry it starts with (see http://www.ao27.org/AO27/index.shtml for a
> schedule).
>
> For your situation, I would recommend trying AO-27 until you are familiar
> with the satellites. AO-27 isn't as crowded as AO-51, but it's also not as
> quiet (both in traffic and output) as SO-50.
>
> Don't quote me on it, but I think AO-51 has less than 500mW output right
> now, AO-27 is 500mW and SO-50 is 250mW.
>
> Good luck! Once you get the hang of it, it's easy enoguh that a teenager
> can do it (I'd know..)
>
> 73 de KE5GDB
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:18 PM, LeRoy Miller <kd8bxp@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I am relatively new (- I have been tring on my own to get the hang of
>> working the satellites) with little or no luck.
>>
>> I have been posting my failed results to twitter and getting over
>> frustrated in my attempts - luckly there have been a few who have given me
>> pointers. And one very nice person kl7cn let me call him and he talked me
>> though a few things during the call he said maybe I should try the SO50. So
>> today I did try it
>> And much to my surprise and happiness it was easy enough to pickup and
>> find and things seemed to working for me (He told me that is was a quite
>> machine and that I might have to look for it a bit)
>> The pass I tried was at 1710 UTC (110 pm local est) and the sat was moving
>> from the southwest to the northeast from my previous trys on the AO51 I
knew
>> that I would probably not get it while it was still low (less then about 20
>> degrees - also because of where I was pointing the antenna that low I was
>> pointing right at a building) I reasoned that if I started looking at about
>> 24 degrees I would being doing much better (so that is what I did) at about
>> 1714 or 1715 UTC I had heard the SO51 for the first time, still a bit rough
>> and probably still a little low by the time it was up around the 40 degree
>> mark I thought
>> What the heck I am here, people are talking why not try to make a contact
>> - so that is what I did
>> I think I waited just a little longer got a nice strong signal and put my
>> call out
>>
>> KD8BXP em79 --
>> What I heard on the downlink really surprised me - it was this horrable
>> noise (it almost sounded like when 2 people double) I don't know what I did
>> but thought ok maybe feedback from the microphone so I unpluged the
external
>> and tried again
>> I got the same horrable sound
>>
>> Now I am sorry up front for this noise I am sure people heard it - so if
>> you were on around 1717 - 1720 I am so sorry upfront
>>
>> But that leads me to my question - what did I do wrong?
>> And how can I correct the problem and try again
>>
>> I have been really frustrated with the AO51 so much so that I almost put
>> my rig antenna and what not on ebay 3 days ago - I cooled off but I really
>> want to work this bird
>> It seemed (at least to a newbie) an easy one to find and maybe make
>> contacts on.
>>
>> You will need to know the setup:
>> TH-D7 A (not the G model I have a G but didn't use it this time)
>> Arrow (2 meter/440) mounted to a telescope tripod
>> Eeepc running ubuntu linux a gpredict
>> External mic for the radio
>> I was on 145.850 pl 67hz for the uplink
>> And 436.800 for the downlink
>> Radio was in duplex mode and sql was turned off (or open if you prefer)
>> And the balance on the speaker was set for only the 440 side
>> I was at 40 - 50 degrees when I first keyed up and the second time would
>> have been when it was at its highest point of between 64 and 74 degrees
>> I was on the high power setting
>> I have used this radio for both local repeater work and aprs and no one
>> has ever told me that it was making horrable noises
>> And I think if it was making horrable noises while transmitting aprs the
>> data would be corrpted
>>
>> I hope I have given enough information. I hope someone can help I don't
>> want to make horrable noises again
>>
>> One other thing but I am sure it is my problem not one that someone fix so
>> to speak
>> Once the satellite reached its max and started back down - I lost it
>> completely couldn't find it again
>> I think it was me one leg on the tripod is bent and started to collaspe
>> while I was turning the antenna to start it pointing in a north east direct
>>
>> Thanks for the help in advance I write a lot to ask something simple sorry
>> about that
>>
>> LeRoy, KD8BXP
>> Sent on the Now Network? from my Sprint? BlackBerry
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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>>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Koenig
>
>
--
Andrew Koenig
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:32:51 -0700
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another satellite-receiver option
To: "'Luc Leblanc'" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Luc,
When using a preamp in any metropolitan area a band pass filter is needed.
Helicoil types are very good for VHF. DCS makes them or build one out of the
RSGB Book.
QFH antennas can be made 1/4 turn to 1 turn, 1/4 wave to 1 wave all with
different patterns. If done right they are a very effective antenna.
NOAA Tiros N satellites run 5 watts on 137 MHz. On 70 cm AO-51 is 1/2 W and
you lose 9 dB more for the increase in frequency. You have 3dB less galactic
noise on 70 cm, and another 3 dB for reduced bandwidth 37 KHz to 16 KHz.
Doing the math you are comparing 5 watts of (NOAA-18) to .250 effective
watts on AO-51 adjusted for noise power and frequency. A huge difference!
Art,
KC6UQH
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Luc Leblanc
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:43 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another satellite-receiver option
I try also to receive NOAA APT transmission with an helix but i got very
marginal results even with a preamp for 137khz. The signal was
better but the pagers QRM was also boosted by about a factor of 5...
The only one viable solution was to use my VHF satellite beam with a PAR
electronics vhf notch filter part number 5602516. Of course you
should have a 50khz band pass below that results are also very marginal. I
don't know if the PCR-100 is able to received at this bandwidth
but the PCR-1000 can and it can be driven by WXtoimg software.
P.S. My home made helix is available for 35$ plus shipping but a bit hard to
securely fit inside a shipping box. pics available if needed.
On 8 Jun 2009 at 23:14, Jerry Clement wrote:
> I use a Hamtronics R139 Weather fax Receiver with a QFH antenna that I
built for receving and decoding images from the weather birds such as NOAA
18. I never had any luck with any of my other receivers such as my Icom R20,
being to narrow for this purpose, although I know of guy's who have
modified receivers successfully for just this purpose. My set up may be seen
on my website: www.stormchaser.cjb.net click on: Quadrifilar Helix Antenna.
The page needs to be upgraded, as I use a newer laptop than the one shown.
>
> Jerry VE6AB
> www.ve6ab.blogspot.com
> _______________________________________________
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:44:14 +0200
From: "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Satellites
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi folks,
is it possible to know the Downlink and if any uplink frequencies and modes
for these new birds:
TACSAT-3
PHARMSAT
HAWKSAT1
CP6
AEROCUB3
And also what to hear, if Packet at 1200 or 9600 baud ecc Or voice or any
other mode?
Thanks in advance.
73 de Enzo IK8OZV
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:54:52 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: DJ-G7T programming cable question
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 19:33 -0800, Edward Cole wrote:
> As one who has answered a few questions over the years (many time the
> same questions, repeatedly), it suggests placing the answers into a
> FAQ on the web to refer folks to. But for each questioner its a
> "new' question for them. So if you want to help, answer them.
Answering them with "It's in the FAQ", perhaps? What *is* annoying is
when you ask a question that *on the face of it* seems like an obvious
RTFM but is actually a little more complex, only to be deluged with
"RTFM" answers.
Gordon
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:15:25 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO50 problems and questions
To: "Andrew Koenig" <ke5gdb@xxxxx.xxx>, <kd8bxp@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
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>I would try taking the antenna off of the tripod for a little while. The
> polarization of the satellites changes constantly, and with the antenna on
> the tripod, it's difficult to compensate for those changes.
Excellent advice!
I think the noise you are hearing is feedback from your downlink audio
getting into your uplink. One thing about full duplex is you must use
headphones to keep this from happening. The good news means you were getting
into the satellite! Plug in the headphones and you'll be ready to makes
QSOs.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:01:28 EDT
From: Cotejaune2@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hudson Valley Satcom Group Net Tomorrow June 11 At
8PM EDT
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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It's time again for The Hudson Valley Satcom Group Net tomorrow night
June11 at 8PM EDT. Please come and join us on Echolink node n2eyh-L or on the
Mt.
Beacon repeater 146.970 PL 100. Share your satellite knowledge with the
group. Hope to hear you there.
73
Gary WA2AQH
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:50:41 -0400
From: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Full Duplex HT's (Howard Kowall)
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Clint Bradford wrote:
> Sorry for the attitude ... But China owns way to much of my country,
> and all they produce is inferior crap that U.S. citizens eat up at Wal-
> Mart and similar retailers. There are plenty of amateur radio
> manufacturers who follow my country's rules from whom I choose to
> purchase.
I'm glad to see you bought one of the last 100% union-built "100% Made
in the USA" computers Clint. *grin*
Howard: Please keep us posted. Seems like an interesting radio.
- --
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:02:17 -0500
From: "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another satellite-receiver option
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Good Morning
I was able to download the manual from the manufacture site
not a very good manual,but it does not seem it is full duplex
the manual can be downloaded here
http://www.wouxun.com/down_01.asp
Thanks Again
Howard
VE4ISP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
To: "'Luc Leblanc'" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:32 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another satellite-receiver option
> Luc,
> When using a preamp in any metropolitan area a band pass filter is needed.
> Helicoil types are very good for VHF. DCS makes them or build one out of
> the
> RSGB Book.
> QFH antennas can be made 1/4 turn to 1 turn, 1/4 wave to 1 wave all with
> different patterns. If done right they are a very effective antenna.
>
> NOAA Tiros N satellites run 5 watts on 137 MHz. On 70 cm AO-51 is 1/2 W
> and
> you lose 9 dB more for the increase in frequency. You have 3dB less
> galactic
> noise on 70 cm, and another 3 dB for reduced bandwidth 37 KHz to 16 KHz.
> Doing the math you are comparing 5 watts of (NOAA-18) to .250 effective
> watts on AO-51 adjusted for noise power and frequency. A huge difference!
>
> Art,
> KC6UQH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Luc Leblanc
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:43 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another satellite-receiver option
>
>
> I try also to receive NOAA APT transmission with an helix but i got very
> marginal results even with a preamp for 137khz. The signal was
> better but the pagers QRM was also boosted by about a factor of 5...
>
> The only one viable solution was to use my VHF satellite beam with a PAR
> electronics vhf notch filter part number 5602516. Of course you
> should have a 50khz band pass below that results are also very marginal. I
> don't know if the PCR-100 is able to received at this bandwidth
> but the PCR-1000 can and it can be driven by WXtoimg software.
>
>
> P.S. My home made helix is available for 35$ plus shipping but a bit hard
> to
> securely fit inside a shipping box. pics available if needed.
>
> On 8 Jun 2009 at 23:14, Jerry Clement wrote:
>
>> I use a Hamtronics R139 Weather fax Receiver with a QFH antenna that I
> built for receving and decoding images from the weather birds such as NOAA
> 18. I never had any luck with any of my other receivers such as my Icom
> R20,
> being to narrow for this purpose, although I know of guy's who have
> modified receivers successfully for just this purpose. My set up may be
> seen
> on my website: www.stormchaser.cjb.net click on: Quadrifilar Helix
> Antenna.
> The page needs to be upgraded, as I use a newer laptop than the one shown.
>>
>> Jerry VE6AB
>> www.ve6ab.blogspot.com
>> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
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