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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ERP (Sebastian)
2. Re: 10GHZ transceiver (Luc Leblanc)
3. Re: GO-32 status (Mark L. Hammond)
4. Hughes PES (Howie)
5. Re: 10GHZ transceiver (jmfranke)
6. ISS PACKET (Peter Scheller)
7. Thanks to the A0-51 control team (Rick - WA4NVM)
8. Re: Thanks to the A0-51 control team (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
9. Re: Thanks to the A0-51 control team (Andrew Glasbrenner)
10. Re: ISS PACKET (George Henry)
11. Re: 10GHZ trabsceiver (i8cvs)
12. FT-847 vs IC-910 (Eric Fort)
13. Re: FT-847 vs IC-910 (Sebastian)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:03:09 -0400
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ERP
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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I'm not so sure that Joe is using too much power. I have a feeling
that he may have a problem with his radio. I have discussed this with
him several times, to no avail. As such, I usually stay away from AO-7.
I won't apologize, because I frankly think it should be the other way
around, as most anyone who gets on AO-7 is aware of this.
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
On May 27, 2009, at 9:47 PM, WILLIAMS MICHAEL wrote:
>
> My apologies to Joe (K9SZH) and to the AMSAT-BB. I should have sent
> my message directly to him and not through the BB.
>
> The ham mind works incorrectly sometimes, and I fell right into a
> wrong decision.
>
> Mike (K9QHO)
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:03:54 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 10GHZ transceiver
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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On 28 May 2009 at 12:26, n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Hi Luc,
> What are you exactly trying to do? Are you trying to convert this into a 10
GHz transverter for use terrestrially on 10.368 GHz? Or are you
> looking at converting to a 'receive only' system on 10.450 GHz (P3E)
>
> From everything I've seen on these units, the transmit portion is Ku band
and won't move down to 10 GHz (internally matched)
>
>
> 73,
> Mike, N1JEZ
>
If feasable both as there is the TX and the RX on the same body. I think
someone play with this unit as a handwriting note appears as "10-
15GHZ KU" but i have no clue for the transmit IF value nor the RX IF too. Is
it possible theses unit can be wide enough to cover from 10
to 15GHZ it seems to be a bit extreme.
Without any specs it is hard to come up with some solution to have it working
in our bands.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:14:16 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GO-32 status
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hello David,
For what seems like an eternity GO-32 has been sending a telemetry
packet at 9600 baud one per minute. So, NO, the BBS isn't open (and
hasn't been for a long time).
You can decode the telemetry GO-32 frames thanks to Mike DK3WN!
Actually, he has decoders for just about every satellite ever launched
;) at http://www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml
73,
--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
______
Hello All,
What is the status of GO-32? Is the BBS back up and running?
73 de David VK5DG
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:36:38 -0400
From: "Howie" <HowieD231@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hughes PES
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Luc,
The PES hasn't been around for a long time, almost 20 years. I don't have
manuals for this anymore and memory fades but the recive range is probably
11.7 to 12.2 Ghz and the transmit range is probably 14.0 to 14.5 Mhz. I
think the receive IF range is the standard 950-1450 Mhz range but Hughes
used a proprietory transmit IF. Voltage was supplied on the IFL cable using
bias T's internal to the "InDoorUnit". It was also customary to inject the
10 MHz PLL reference on the TX and sometimes RX IFL cable(s). The unit on
eBay is the second generation "OutDoorUnit" manufactured by NEC of Japan for
Hughes. The pointing output supplied a DC voltage proportional to signal
strength. This unit will require allot of surgery to be useful 10 Ghz.
...de Howie AB2S
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:08:19 -0400
From: "jmfranke" <jmfranke@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 10GHZ transceiver
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <58E279FB803A49F6A3FDA2EABF2DAB4C@xxxxxx>
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I believe the waveguide is WR-75 which is rated for 10-15 GHz, but I also
believe the system will not move down to the 3cm amateur radio band without
serious modifications.
John WA4WDL
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From: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:03 PM
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 10GHZ transceiver
> On 28 May 2009 at 12:26, n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
>
>> Hi Luc,
>> What are you exactly trying to do? Are you trying to convert this into a
>> 10 GHz transverter for use terrestrially on 10.368 GHz? Or are you
>> looking at converting to a 'receive only' system on 10.450 GHz (P3E)
>>
>> From everything I've seen on these units, the transmit portion is Ku band
>> and won't move down to 10 GHz (internally matched)
>>
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike, N1JEZ
>>
>
> If feasable both as there is the TX and the RX on the same body. I think
> someone play with this unit as a handwriting note appears as "10-
> 15GHZ KU" but i have no clue for the transmit IF value nor the RX IF too.
> Is it possible theses unit can be wide enough to cover from 10
> to 15GHZ it seems to be a bit extreme.
>
> Without any specs it is hard to come up with some solution to have it
> working in our bands.
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:28:48 -1000
From: "Peter Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS PACKET
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DS3B7176647430D00911C07E1500@xxx.xxx>
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Hello to all,
I have a PacComm TINY-2 MK-2 TNC and would like to use it for ISS Packet.
My question is: Can I use it with a computer running MS Windows XP, or do I
need a DOS based OS to use this type TNC?
What software is necessary to run on Windows XP and possible APRS?
Thanks in advance,
Peter, NH6VB
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:39:08 -0500
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks to the A0-51 control team
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <783AC63046B14FB99F47043F8B12A186@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Drew and Gould,
Thanks for getting A0-51 back up on the last pass. (around 0010utc)
Not sure who pulled the trigger, but I know both of you keep the bird
working for our ongoing communications.
Thanks again for the fast service,
Rick - WA4NVM
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 01:44:35 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Thanks to the A0-51 control team
To: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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Amen to that!
Thanks guys.
Tim - N3TL
-------------- Original message from "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>: ---
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> Drew and Gould,
>
> Thanks for getting A0-51 back up on the last pass. (around 0010utc)
> Not sure who pulled the trigger, but I know both of you keep the bird
> working for our ongoing communications.
>
> Thanks again for the fast service,
>
> Rick - WA4NVM
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:19:37 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Thanks to the A0-51 control team
To: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Gould does 99% of the commanding...I'm more the arranger and scheduler and
planner. He deserves ALL the credit!
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks to the A0-51 control team
> Drew and Gould,
>
> Thanks for getting A0-51 back up on the last pass. (around 0010utc)
> Not sure who pulled the trigger, but I know both of you keep the bird
> working for our ongoing communications.
>
> Thanks again for the fast service,
>
> Rick - WA4NVM
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:04:15 -0500
From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS PACKET
To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <7863ADB9ED484C6782630CD178921BF6@xxxxxxx>
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A TNC is basically a glorified modem. As such, it doesn't care what OS is
running on the computer - DOS, XP, Vista, Linux, Mac OS X, etc, or even
whether you use a computer at all: a TNC will even work with a dumb
terminal.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:28 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS PACKET
> Hello to all,
>
> I have a PacComm TINY-2 MK-2 TNC and would like to use it for ISS Packet.
>
> My question is: Can I use it with a computer running MS Windows XP, or do
> I
> need a DOS based OS to use this type TNC?
>
> What software is necessary to run on Windows XP and possible APRS?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Peter, NH6VB
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 02:24:03 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 10GHZ trabsceiver
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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Hi Luc, VE2DWE
My setup for 10450-10452 MHz with an IF 146-148 MHz was built for AO40 but
tanks to AMSAT-DL it will be fully usable for P3E.
A standard transverter designed by DB6NT for 10368 MHz and IF 144 MHz was
originally published by DUBUS 2/ 1991 pag 17 but it was newly described by
my self beginning from RADIO RIVISTA 5/1957 pages 38-41 adding all necessary
modifications to rise the frequency range 10450-10452 MHz with an IF
of 146-148 MHz to be used for AO40 and P3E
here are some characteristics of my setup:
Dish: diameter 60 cm; F/D = 0.38 ; G = 33 dBi
Feed: home brewed Chaparral for RHCP and LHCP
Preamplifier : i0LVA designe ; NF= 1.3 dB ; G= 19 dB as was described in
DUBUS 3/1994
Local Oscillator : Designed by i2SG and publisced in Radio Rivista 9/1994
and 3/1995 with a XTAL of 107.3333333 MHz made by Telequartz and designed to
work in an owen at 60? C with a RF output of -3 dBm
Local Oscillator Multiplier and Amplifier by 24 ; 107.3333333 x 24 = 2576
MHz module designed by DF9LN and sold by the EISCH ELECTRONIC with a RF
output of +12 dBm with all modifications to rise 2576 MHz as described by my
self in Radio Rivista 6/1997 pages 36-40
IF output : 2576 x 4 = 10304 MHz ; 10304 + 146 = 10450 MHz
2576 x 4 = 10304 MHz ; 10304 + 148 = 10452 MHz
The multiplication of 2576 x 4 = 10304 MHz is originally included
into the transverter itself.
For AO40 and P3E this transverter and the associated setup was intented
obviously to be used only for receiving and actually with the poor solar
activity of only 67 sfu at 10.7 cm I do receive about 4 dB of (S+N)/N of
Sun-Noise
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:08 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] 10GHZ trabsceiver
> Just a resend first one come out with wrong date.
>
> In view of what's is planned for the next P3E HEO i want to try some 10ghz
band
> experiment
>
> I got a local Hamfest a Hughes LNA P/N 1011836-0009 personal earth
station. My first
> google search does not give any results nor a direct
> call to Hughes company who even give less results...
>
> This LNA has a N type connector on it marked IF a F connector marked LNC
another F
> marked POINTING and on the side another F connector on
> probably the LNA model PLV-810A. There is a rotary adjustable ring for
vertical or
> horizonthal polarisation and a hand writing note
> "10-15GHZ KU" the TX power is 1Watt.
>
> If someone is aware ot the use of this PES or know where to get some
manual it will
> help me to see if i can put this on the air?
>
> You can see a similar unit on e-bay at
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI&item
=11039559
> 5319
>
>
>
> Thank's
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:21:35 -0700
From: Eric Fort <eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 vs IC-910
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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For vhf/uhf satellite use I'm seriously thinking about selling off my FT-847
for money toward a IC-910. Could some of you on this list comment on how
these 2 radios compare for satellite (and if you know vhf/uhf weak signal)
work? why one radio over the other? What are your thoughts and experiences
with the IC-910 ? Same question for the FT-847.
Thanks,
Eric
AF6EP
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:50:02 -0400
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FT-847 vs IC-910
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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Eric, earlier this year I went from the FT-847 to the IC-910H and I
couldn't be happier. I used it strictly for satellites.
No question about it, the 847 is an excellent radio; in one respect
it's better than the 910 because it has HF. However, the receiver on
the 910H is far superior to the 847's. I don't have any test
equipment to justify that comment, other than my own ears. I
immediately noticed a big difference in the receiver especially on
some of the SSB satellites such as AO-7 which is one of the weaker
ones that I hear.
I haven't had the opportunity to test the 'real' weak signal modes,
that is meteor scatter - yet; because I'm in the process of putting up
a wide spaced 2 meter antenna with a preamp which will be used for that.
Otherwise, I am a firm believer that time marches on, and with time,
the availability of parts for the 847 will decline, and eventually
it's performance due to age of the components. Sure there will be
parts for the 847 for years as it's a very popular radio, I just like
to have equipment which is still being produced, in the event it
requires service.
My 910H has 1.2 GHz built in, and I also have an antenna for that
band, but I have yet to put it up.
My only problem with the 910H is it's RIT, or should I say, lack of.
The RIT only covers 1 kHz, and I think that's much too small,
especially for those stations that don't have computer doppler control
on the SSB birds.
Also, the 910 has VOX, which is something that Yaesu really dropped
the ball on by not adding it to the 847.
If you can afford it, I think you will be very happy with it. The 847
still commands a very good price on the used market if you decide to
sell it.
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
On May 29, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Eric Fort wrote:
> For vhf/uhf satellite use I'm seriously thinking about selling off
> my FT-847
> for money toward a IC-910. Could some of you on this list comment
> on how
> these 2 radios compare for satellite (and if you know vhf/uhf weak
> signal)
> work? why one radio over the other? What are your thoughts and
> experiences
> with the IC-910 ? Same question for the FT-847.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
> AF6EP
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