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Today's Topics:

1.  Minotaur 1 Launch Video (Trevor .)
2. Re: Minotaur 1 Launch Video (Trevor .)
3. Re: Minotaur 1 Launch Video (Alexandru Csete)
4. Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500
(Kent Frazier)
5. Re: Minotaur 1 Launch Video (m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xxx
6. Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500 (Ernie)
7. Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500
(Gould Smith)
8. Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500
(Trey Brown)
9. Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500
(Dave Webb  KB1PVH)
10. Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500
(n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
11. Re: New European Astronauts announced - One is British! and
one is German! :-) (Peter Guelzow)
12.  AO-51 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
13. Re: AO-51 (Raul Romero)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:51:41 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Minotaur 1 Launch Video
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi,

Trying to play the Minotaur 1(TacSat 3) launch video on YouTube without
success. Has anyone else had any luck ?

YouTube Minotaur 1(TacSat 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEf9trI1Hf8

73 Trevor M5AKA







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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:55:17 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Minotaur 1 Launch Video
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <897957.14232.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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This one works:

NASA Launches Minotaur-1PharmaSat TacSat-3 - 20 May 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEs2STSF7Lo

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Wed, 20/5/09, Trevor .
> Hi,
>
> Trying to play the Minotaur 1(TacSat 3) launch video on
> YouTube without success. Has anyone else had any luck ?
>
> YouTube Minotaur 1(TacSat 3)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEf9trI1Hf8
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
>
> ? ? ?
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:17:38 +0200
From: Alexandru Csete <alexc@xxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Minotaur 1 Launch Video
To: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090520221738.779735ankkqhxs2q@xxxxxxx.xxxx.xx.xx>
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Both videos work for me. The first one is even higher quality than the
second. Thanks for posting.

73
Alex OZ9AEC

Quoting "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>:

>
> This one works:
>
> NASA Launches Minotaur-1PharmaSat TacSat-3 - 20 May 2009
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEs2STSF7Lo
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
> --- On Wed, 20/5/09, Trevor .
>> Hi,
>>
>> Trying to play the Minotaur 1(TacSat 3) launch video on
>> YouTube without success. Has anyone else had any luck ?
>>
>> YouTube Minotaur 1(TacSat 3)
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEf9trI1Hf8
>>
>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ? ?
>>
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>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:19:48 -0500
From: Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement
	Award #500
To: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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	<92f8f1580905201319s7f1fad32v309083bd1f83dea9@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I have to agree with Tim on this.

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:03, <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Hey Bruce (and all),
>
> I would prefer that AMSAT issue awards numbered to represent the order in
> which they were received.
>
> I believe doing otherwise to be inappropriate because it does not
> accurately reflect the true history of the award.
>
> Is anyone aware of a precedent like this involving another award - that is,
> that No. XXX of an award may actually not represent the XXXth application
> received? Something about that just doesn't seem right to me.
>
> I know that if I was submitting the 500th application - and, of course,
> only the awards administrator would know whether I actually WAS - I would be
> upset to learn that I would not be getting that 500th award - especially if
> someone who applied after me was awarded it.
>
> One final queston - has the AMSAT Board blessed this? I'll definitely stand
> corrected if appropriate, but it occurs to me that any action that would
> alter in any way the official statistical record of an award should at least
> have board review, if not formal action of approval.
>
> My apologies to anyone who's offended by my stated preference to maintain
> an accurate historical record.
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Tim - N3TL
> -------------- Original message from Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>:
> --------------
>
>
> > I am ready to issue AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award
> > number 490 today. What I am going to do so that a group of people have
> > the opportunity of receiving number 500 is this....
> >
> > The next 20 that submit for this award (including the one I just
> > received) will be stacked in the order that they were submitted. After
> > all 20 are here (numbers 490-509) I will have Mahana, W5BTS, select one
> > of the call signs out of a hat. That person will receive certificate
> > number 500. Everyone else will then get their certificate in the order
> > they submitted. (Hmmmm... Mahana never submitted for this award, could
> > she pull her own call?)
> >
> > The lucky operator could be you. But only if you submit an application
> > for the AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award. This award is
> > available to hams worldwide. You do not need to be a member of AMSAT.
> > Rules for the award can be found at the AMSAT http://www.amsat.org
> > Click on Contests and Awards in the left margin.
> >
> > Scanned QSL cards emailed to me is the best way to submit for the award.
> > JPG files are preferred. PDF and DOC files are fine just larger in size.
> >
> > This might take a month or two depending on how quickly the submissions
> > arrive so be patient as your certificate will not mail until the last
> > one is received. I will let you know via email that I have received your
> > submission. I will let everyone know when the 20 entries have been
> > received and you will have no more than 3 days from then to make payment
> > for the award at the AMSAT online store (payment may be made earlier if
> > you desire). Lucky number 500 will be issued and all certificates will
> > go in the mail.
> >
> > 73...bruce
> > AMSAT Director Contest and Awards
> >
> > --
> >
> > Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> >
> > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> >
> > ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
> >
> > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on SkyScanner Satellite Radio Network on
> Galaxy-25
> > @xxx West,
> > Transponder 23 (12115 Vert), Symbol Rate: 22425, APID: 1794 (DVB Free To
> Air)
> > Also streaming MP3 athttp://www.amsatnet.com
> > Podcast athttp://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
> >
> > Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
> > http://www.arrl.org
> >
> >
> >
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--
Kent K5KNT
AMSAT #36765
ARRL


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:22:47 +0000 (GMT)
From: m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Minotaur 1 Launch Video
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <717845.46817.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


--- On Wed, 20/5/09, Alexandru Csete <alexc@xxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> Both videos work for me. The first one is even higher quality than the?
> second.

Thanks Alex, the clue was "higher quality" - I have to click on the YouTube
player HQ icon to get it play here.

73 Trevor M5AKA







------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:27:43 -0400
From: Ernie <w8eh.ernie@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement
	Award #500
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A1467BF.4040007@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I like the plan that Bruce came up with. It got me to check my cards and
I found more than enough to apply for the award. And now I might have a
one in 20 chance to get the number 500 on my award.

Thanks Bruce.... good idea.

Ernie W8EH



Bruce wrote:
> I am ready to issue AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award
> number 490 today. What I am going to do so that a group of people have
> the opportunity of receiving number 500 is this....
>
> The next 20 that submit for this award (including the one I just
> received) will be stacked in the order that they were submitted. After
> all 20 are here (numbers 490-509) I will have Mahana, W5BTS, select one
> of the call signs out of a hat. That person will receive certificate
> number 500. Everyone else will then get their certificate in the order
> they submitted. (Hmmmm... Mahana never submitted for this award, could
> she pull her own call?)
>
> The lucky operator could be you. But only if you submit an application
> for the AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award. This award is
> available to hams worldwide. You do not need to be a member of AMSAT.
> Rules for the award can be found at the AMSAT http://www.amsat.org
> Click on Contests and Awards in the left margin.
>
> Scanned QSL cards emailed to me is the best way to submit for the award.
> JPG files are preferred. PDF and DOC files are fine just larger in size.
>
> This might take a month or two depending on how quickly the submissions
> arrive so be patient as your certificate will not mail until the last
> one is received. I will let you know via email that I have received your
> submission. I will let everyone know when the 20 entries have been
> received and you will have no more than 3 days from then to make payment
> for the award at the AMSAT online store (payment may be made earlier if
> you desire). Lucky number 500 will be issued and all certificates will
> go in the mail.
>
> 73...bruce
> AMSAT Director Contest and Awards
>
>



------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:54:46 -0400
From: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement
	Award #500
To: <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <AF9ADBD090CF49B3A0F6D1065D8118FD@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

As VP of User Services, the team and I welcome input from the membership.

Bruce has been a long term Director of Contests and Awards.  As far as I
know there have been no questions about the order that the other 489 AMSAT
Satellite Communications Achievement Awards have been assigned. Bruce has
this position because he is reliable, makes good decisions and does all of
the work.
This is not a board level decision.
As VP of User Services, which includes Contests and Awards, I have full
confidence in Bruce's decision making.  This clever idea generates interest
and is fun. So award on Bruce.

73,
Gould, WA4SXM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500


I am ready to issue AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award
number 490 today. What I am going to do so that a group of people have
the opportunity of receiving number 500 is this....

The next 20 that submit for this award (including the one I just
received) will be stacked in the order that they were submitted. After
all 20 are here (numbers 490-509) I will have Mahana, W5BTS, select one
of the call signs out of a hat. That person will receive certificate
number 500. Everyone else will then get their certificate in the order
they submitted. (Hmmmm... Mahana never submitted for this award, could
she pull her own call?)

The lucky operator could be you. But only if you submit an application
for the AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award. This award is
available to hams worldwide. You do not need to be a member of AMSAT.
Rules for the award can be found at the AMSAT http://www.amsat.org
Click on Contests and Awards in the left margin.

Scanned QSL cards emailed to me is the best way to submit for the award.
JPG files are preferred. PDF and DOC files are fine just larger in size.

This might take a month or two depending on how quickly the submissions
arrive so be patient as your certificate will not mail until the last
one is received. I will let you know via email that I have received your
submission. I will let everyone know when the 20 entries have been
received and you will have no more than 3 days from then to make payment
for the award at the AMSAT online store (payment may be made earlier if
you desire). Lucky number 500 will be issued and all certificates will
go in the mail.

73...bruce
AMSAT Director Contest and Awards

--

Bruce Paige, KK5DO

AMSAT Director Contests and Awards

ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE

Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on SkyScanner Satellite Radio Network on
Galaxy-25 @xxx West,
Transponder 23 (12115 Vert), Symbol Rate: 22425, APID: 1794 (DVB Free To
Air)
Also streaming MP3 athttp://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast athttp://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml  or iTunes

Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:13:05 -0500
From: Trey Brown <palintheus@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement
	Award #500
To: Ernie <w8eh.ernie@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<6989774c0905201413x67ffe991h30ea71327ee69518@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I have to agree with Tim.

Ernie - You had a 1:10 chance before the drawing was implemented, if your
application was submitted in time.


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Ernie <w8eh.ernie@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> I like the plan that Bruce came up with. It got me to check my cards and
> I found more than enough to apply for the award. And now I might have a
> one in 20 chance to get the number 500 on my award.
>
> Thanks Bruce.... good idea.
>
> Ernie W8EH
>
>
>
> Bruce wrote:
> > I am ready to issue AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award
> > number 490 today. What I am going to do so that a group of people have
> > the opportunity of receiving number 500 is this....
> >
> > The next 20 that submit for this award (including the one I just
> > received) will be stacked in the order that they were submitted. After
> > all 20 are here (numbers 490-509) I will have Mahana, W5BTS, select one
> > of the call signs out of a hat. That person will receive certificate
> > number 500. Everyone else will then get their certificate in the order
> > they submitted. (Hmmmm... Mahana never submitted for this award, could
> > she pull her own call?)
> >
> > The lucky operator could be you. But only if you submit an application
> > for the AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award. This award is
> > available to hams worldwide. You do not need to be a member of AMSAT.
> > Rules for the award can be found at the AMSAT http://www.amsat.org
> > Click on Contests and Awards in the left margin.
> >
> > Scanned QSL cards emailed to me is the best way to submit for the award.
> > JPG files are preferred. PDF and DOC files are fine just larger in size.
> >
> > This might take a month or two depending on how quickly the submissions
> > arrive so be patient as your certificate will not mail until the last
> > one is received. I will let you know via email that I have received your
> > submission. I will let everyone know when the 20 entries have been
> > received and you will have no more than 3 days from then to make payment
> > for the award at the AMSAT online store (payment may be made earlier if
> > you desire). Lucky number 500 will be issued and all certificates will
> > go in the mail.
> >
> > 73...bruce
> > AMSAT Director Contest and Awards
> >
> >
>
>  _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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--
Trey -- N5THX


"Freedom is the natural yearning of the human spirit as we were endowed by
our Creator."


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:26:14 +0000
From: "Dave Webb  KB1PVH" <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement
	Award #500
To: "Tim" <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx
	kk5do@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<209250205-1242854769-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-
266665290-@xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I also agree with Tim.

73,   Dave




Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:03:37
To: <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx<xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Bruce<kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500


Hey Bruce (and all),

I would prefer that AMSAT issue awards numbered to represent the order in
which they were received.

I believe doing otherwise to be inappropriate because it does not accurately
reflect the true history of the award.

Is anyone aware of a precedent like this involving another award - that is,
that No. XXX of an award may actually not represent the XXXth application
received? Something about that just doesn't seem right to me.

I know that if I was submitting the 500th application - and, of course, only
the awards administrator would know whether I actually WAS - I would be upset
to learn that I would not be getting that 500th award - especially if someone
who applied after me was awarded it.

One final queston - has the AMSAT Board blessed this? I'll definitely stand
corrected if appropriate, but it occurs to me that any action that would alter
in any way the official statistical record of an award should at least have
board review, if not formal action of approval.

My apologies to anyone who's offended by my stated preference to maintain an
accurate historical record.

73 to all,

Tim - N3TL
-------------- Original message from Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>: --------------


> I am ready to issue AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award
> number 490 today. What I am going to do so that a group of people have
> the opportunity of receiving number 500 is this....
>
> The next 20 that submit for this award (including the one I just
> received) will be stacked in the order that they were submitted. After
> all 20 are here (numbers 490-509) I will have Mahana, W5BTS, select one
> of the call signs out of a hat. That person will receive certificate
> number 500. Everyone else will then get their certificate in the order
> they submitted. (Hmmmm... Mahana never submitted for this award, could
> she pull her own call?)
>
> The lucky operator could be you. But only if you submit an application
> for the AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award. This award is
> available to hams worldwide. You do not need to be a member of AMSAT.
> Rules for the award can be found at the AMSAT http://www.amsat.org
> Click on Contests and Awards in the left margin.
>
> Scanned QSL cards emailed to me is the best way to submit for the award.
> JPG files are preferred. PDF and DOC files are fine just larger in size.
>
> This might take a month or two depending on how quickly the submissions
> arrive so be patient as your certificate will not mail until the last
> one is received. I will let you know via email that I have received your
> submission. I will let everyone know when the 20 entries have been
> received and you will have no more than 3 days from then to make payment
> for the award at the AMSAT online store (payment may be made earlier if
> you desire). Lucky number 500 will be issued and all certificates will
> go in the mail.
>
> 73...bruce
> AMSAT Director Contest and Awards
>
> --
>
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>
> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
>
> ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>
> Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on SkyScanner Satellite Radio Network on
Galaxy-25
> @xxx West,
> Transponder 23 (12115 Vert), Symbol Rate: 22425, APID: 1794 (DVB Free To
Air)
> Also streaming MP3 athttp://www.amsatnet.com
> Podcast athttp://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
>
> Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
> http://www.arrl.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:36:48 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement
	Award #500
To: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>,
	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<052020092136.8080.4A1477F00004A8F100001F9022230680329B0A02D2089B9A019C0
4040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hey Gould ... and all,

Since I already have my award, maybe I shouldn't even have commented.

I stand by my earlier statement - any method of assigning awards other than in
the order they were received eliminates any claim of historical accuracy to
the award(s) in question.

We'll have to agree to disagree on supporting a decision that, for me, lessens
the value of owning the award in question.

"Wow, you have Satellite Achievemnet Award No. 500. That's really cool to be
the 500th person to get that award."

"Thanks. But I can't tell you I was the 500th person. I was somewhere between
490 and 510, but I won the drawing they held."

Please - somebody - help me to understand how that has any positive impact on
the credibility of the award and/or the significance of award No. 500.

If this drawing is held, somebody also please help me to understand how any of
us who have - or will have - the award will know with certainty that the
number we receive represents the true order of application. Am I really the
473rd person whose application was received, reviewed and approved for the
award?

I'm pleased that Ernie, W8EH, was moved by Bruce's post to check his cards and
see that he qualified. Congratulations Ernie! Way to go.

Here, I am well over the number necessary for the Sexigesimal Award. I'm not
nearly as inclined to apply for it now as I was 24 hours ago - if there's no
REAL significance to the number on the award. That's what a "No. 500 Drawing"
tells me ... that there is no REAL significance to the number on the award.

I'll apologize again if my preference to adhere to historical accuracy offends
and/or irritates anyone. If this drawing is held, I believe that very act
diminishes this particular award and AMSAT's awards program in general.

Thanks, too, Gould, for clarifying that this is not a Board decision. We'll
have to agree to disagree that holding a drawing to determine the order of
awards represents a good idea.

73 to all,

Tim - N3TL

-------------- Original message from "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>: -
-------------


> As VP of User Services, the team and I welcome input from the membership.
>
> Bruce has been a long term Director of Contests and Awards. As far as I
> know there have been no questions about the order that the other 489 AMSAT
> Satellite Communications Achievement Awards have been assigned. Bruce has
> this position because he is reliable, makes good decisions and does all of
> the work.
> This is not a board level decision.
> As VP of User Services, which includes Contests and Awards, I have full
> confidence in Bruce's decision making. This clever idea generates interest
> and is fun. So award on Bruce.
>
> 73,
> Gould, WA4SXM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce"
> To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:24 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award #500
>
>
> I am ready to issue AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award
> number 490 today. What I am going to do so that a group of people have
> the opportunity of receiving number 500 is this....
>
> The next 20 that submit for this award (including the one I just
> received) will be stacked in the order that they were submitted. After
> all 20 are here (numbers 490-509) I will have Mahana, W5BTS, select one
> of the call signs out of a hat. That person will receive certificate
> number 500. Everyone else will then get their certificate in the order
> they submitted. (Hmmmm... Mahana never submitted for this award, could
> she pull her own call?)
>
> The lucky operator could be you. But only if you submit an application
> for the AMSAT Satellite Communications Achievement Award. This award is
> available to hams worldwide. You do not need to be a member of AMSAT.
> Rules for the award can be found at the AMSAT http://www.amsat.org
> Click on Contests and Awards in the left margin.
>
> Scanned QSL cards emailed to me is the best way to submit for the award.
> JPG files are preferred. PDF and DOC files are fine just larger in size.
>
> This might take a month or two depending on how quickly the submissions
> arrive so be patient as your certificate will not mail until the last
> one is received. I will let you know via email that I have received your
> submission. I will let everyone know when the 20 entries have been
> received and you will have no more than 3 days from then to make payment
> for the award at the AMSAT online store (payment may be made earlier if
> you desire). Lucky number 500 will be issued and all certificates will
> go in the mail.
>
> 73...bruce
> AMSAT Director Contest and Awards
>
> --
>
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>
> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
>
> ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>
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>
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>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:46:11 +0200
From: Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New European Astronauts announced - One is
	British! and one is German! :-)
To: Jim Heck <jim@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A147A23.10405@xxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Congratulations Jim !!

... and  One is German...

Quote:
"His grandfather, a radio amateur, had 27 years ago awakened his
enthusiasm for Space,  Alexander Gerst (33) reported in his
presentation. He explained that he transmitted his words to the Moon and
together they were listening the echoes with some time delay...."


See:  http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/weltall/0,1518,625943,00.html


Well - instead of a grandson, we could had a well known AMSAT-DL member
there...  unfortunately he missed only the last selection before the
final...

73s Peter DB2OS






Jim Heck wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
>   See the deails at
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8058601.stm
>
> 73 Jim G3WGM
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:54:59 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E66AD7B04D084272B00B83239B0B643B@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

We are just about finished with the reload, and after collecting a little
more WOD telemetry and uploading the SQRX software we will turn the repeater
back on. I'm sorry if the updates have been slim, but with this happening
during Dayton with 2/3rds of the command team away from home, it's been a
hectic week between AMSAT and our day jobs. Take the time to enjoy a few of
the lesser used satellites, and 51 will be back before you can say ECHO LIMA
EIGHTY EIGHT.

73, Drew KO4MA



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 18:26:09 -0400
From: "Raul Romero" <ce3soc@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51
To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <03B218F5107B4E47841D9F15A514C8D3@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hi Hi Hi

Very Much and Better Satellite
AO-51 Fine

Waiting I Recoleted More TLM For AO-51

TNX 73
Raul
CA3SOC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:54 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51


> We are just about finished with the reload, and after collecting a little
> more WOD telemetry and uploading the SQRX software we will turn the
> repeater
> back on. I'm sorry if the updates have been slim, but with this happening
> during Dayton with 2/3rds of the command team away from home, it's been a
> hectic week between AMSAT and our day jobs. Take the time to enjoy a few
> of
> the lesser used satellites, and 51 will be back before you can say ECHO
> LIMA
> EIGHTY EIGHT.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
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