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Today's Topics:
1. AO-10 (WILLIAMS MICHAEL)
2. Re: Cal Poly's CP6 Satellite Launching May 5th (Bryan Klofas)
3. Re: Cal Poly's CP6 Satellite Launching May 5th (Luc Leblanc)
4. GSBARC- Hamfest- Today (Peter)
5. ANUSAT spectrogram (Mineo Wakita)
6. GSBARC HAMFEST TODAY (Peter)
7. Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat. (Norman W Osborne)
8. Re: Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat. (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
9. Re: Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat. (Alan P. Biddle)
10. Re: Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat. (Edward Cole)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:58:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: WILLIAMS MICHAEL <k9qho6762@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-10
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Has anyone heard the AO-10 beacon?
?
The sat is in full sunlight until July 24.
?
Is the beacon?signal a very slow QSB as was the downlink?
?
Mike
K9QHO
AMSAT 33589
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 20:07:48 -0700
From: Bryan Klofas <bklofas@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cal Poly's CP6 Satellite Launching May 5th
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And it got canceled again tonight at 2:13 minutes before launch.
--
Bryan Klofas, KF6ZEO
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The launch is postponed as can be seen on
> http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/xml/status.html and on
> http://twitter.com/NASA_Wallops
>
> Quote
> " Posted by RCC on 2009-05-05 at 21:06:18 EDT
> We have decided not to try a launch attempt tomorrow, May 6. The next
> launch attempt will be Thursday, May 7 with a launch window of 8 to 11
> p.m. "
>
> The launch is delayed because of the weather.
> So the new window is at may 7 2009 8-11pm EDT which is may 8 00:00 -
> 02:00 UTC (midnight following on may 7th in europe)
>
> 73s
>
> Wouter PA3WEG
>
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
wrote:
>> Launch : 5 May 2009 between 20:00 and 23:00 EDT
>> Vehicle: Minotaur-1
>> Site ? : WI LA-0B
>> Main Payload: TacSat-3, Air Force Research Laboratory
>>
>> Satellite ? ? USA Operator ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Downlink ?Mode
>> ----------- ? --------------------------------- ?-------- ?------------
>> AeroCube-3 ? ?Aerospace Corporation ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ?
>> HawkSat-1 ? ? Hawk Institute for Space Sciences ?437.345 ? ?
>> PharmaSat-1 ? NASA, Stanford University ? ? ? ? ?437.465 ? 1200bps AFSK
>> CP-6 ? ? ? ? ?CalPoly ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?437.365 ? 1200bps AFSK
>> ----------- ? --------------------------------- ?------- ? ------------
>>
>> JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 23:39:14 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cal Poly's CP6 Satellite Launching May 5th
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On 8 May 2009 at 20:07, Bryan Klofas wrote:
> And it got canceled again tonight at 2:13 minutes before launch.
> --
> Bryan Klofas, KF6ZEO
>
>
>
I was watching it too and i heard someone saying HOLD HOLD HOLD fsc is empty
(or something like that)
They said they know the cause but it is another "abbreviated" word something
who was or became empty?
Better luck next time.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 06:30:48 -0400
From: Peter <roi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GSBARC- Hamfest- Today
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Hi:
I will be attending the Great South Bay Amateur Radio Club's Hamfest
tomorrow, May 9th, 2009. The Hamfest will be held at Fireman's Memorial
Park, Lindenhurst, LI, if anyone is near the area.
I'll have an AMSAT table at the Hamfest and will be conducting a Satellite
demonstration for the AO-51,14:03 pass, it is a shallow one for us, I hope I
can hear you!
More information about the Hamfest is available at:
http://www.gsbarc.org/
73,Pete
WB2OQQ
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:46:36 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANUSAT spectrogram
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/anusatin.htm
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 07:00:03 -0400
From: Peter <roi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GSBARC HAMFEST TODAY
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Correction:
I will be attending the Great South Bay Amateur Radio Club's Hamfest
today, May 9th, 2009. The Hamfest will be held at Fireman's Memorial
Park, Lindenhurst, LI, if anyone is near the area.
I'll have an AMSAT table at the Hamfest and will be conducting a Satellite
demonstration for the AO-51,14:03 pass, this morning, it is a shallow one
for us, I hope I can hear you!
More information about the Hamfest is available at:
http://www.gsbarc.org/
73,Pete
WB2OQQ
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 11:44:12 -0400
From: Norman W Osborne <ve3cje@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat.
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Hello to All,
Looking for suggestions for feed lines to my preamps, could I use RG213-U ?
I am thinking this should be ok as both lines will be only about 10ft in
length.
>From the preamps, I am using hard line.
I also have a UEK3000 receive converter for 2.4 , for feedline, could I get
away with RG6, same cable used for sat TV.
the run will about 80 ft....
Getting setup for future HEO.s
Any suggestion greatly appreciated and many thanks in advance.
Norman
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:31:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat.
To: Norman W Osborne <ve3cje@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Norman-Back in the days of A0-40 (sobsob) I used (still do) a 3731AA
downconverter with a three foot off center dish (primestar).? I ran about 50
feet of RG6 and I found at times I still needed additional attenuation.? I
applaud you getting ready for the next HEO!? If we all did that it might apply
some pressure "somewhere".
73 Bob W7LRD
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From: "Norman W Osborne" <ve3cje@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2009 8:44:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [amsat-bb] ?Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat.
Hello to All,
Looking for suggestions for feed lines to my preamps, could I use RG213-U ?
I am thinking this should be ok as both lines will be only about 10ft in
length.
>From the preamps, I am using hard line.
I also have a UEK3000 receive converter for 2.4 , for feedline, could I get
away with RG6, same cable used for sat TV.
the run will about 80 ft....
Getting setup for future HEO.s
Any suggestion greatly appreciated and many thanks in advance.
Norman
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 13:14:28 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat.
To: "'Norman W Osborne'" <ve3cje@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Norman,
>From a loss standpoint, almost anything will be fine over the 10' length you
mentioned. The real issue is the quality of shielding, and the placement of
the leads. You will be operating in the near field of the antennas, and you
want to minimize RX pickup from the TX antennas before you get to the
preamps. RG-213 is a single shield coax, while RG-214, Bury-Flex, and
RG-9913F have double shielding. While the double shielding is better,
especially if the cables run close and parallel to each other, many people
do fine with RG-213. Note that the generic versions may have significantly
poorer shielding.
The UEK-3000 has 30db gain, and an 80' run with the 2 meter IF output should
not be a problem. Back in Ye Olde AO-40 Days, I had a 70' run of RG-8 down
to the shack. It was there, I was in a hurry, and it worked. (If you have
one with the 70 cm IF, the answer is less certain.) Be aware that RG-6 is
75 ohm rather than 50 ohm cable, the big brother of RG-59, so the SWR on the
line will be a bit higher. However, that should not be a problem.
Glad to hear someone else is keeping the faith on HEO.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 10:34:32 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Hygain Sat Antenna's and SSB UEK3000 Sat.
To: Norman W Osborne <ve3cje@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Norman,
By your questions I guess you have heard that coax loss between
antenna and input of preamps degrades noise figure (which is why we
put preamps at the antenna in the first place). You do not mention
frequencies for the RG-213 but I am guessing you mean 145 and 435 for
satellite. Ten foot probably will not matter too much on those
frequencies though the higher the frequency the more coax loss gets
(and coax loss adds to the noise figure directly; e.g. 1-dB loss add
1 dB noise figure to the noise figure of the preamp - not good if the
preamp is < 0.5 dB NF). MY best advice then, is to use the lease
length of coax in front of the preamp. Compare how it hears with the
coax and without the coax and decide for yourself.
For 2401 MHz the situation is totally different. 80-feet of RG-6
will kill the low-noise performance of the UEK3000. Install the UEK
at the antenna with no coax or as short as possible a jumper
cable. If you meant to use RG-6 from the output of the UEK that is
quite OK. I use a MKU-232A2 + Drake downconverter on 2401 and run
over 100-foot of RG-6 from the Drake to my FT-847. But the MKU
preamp is directly connected to my 6-turn helix feed for my 85cm dish.
I am considering the purchase of a 10-dBi patch antenna to use on
2401 Leo-sats as it will be easier to point and should not need as
much antenna gain. This will be coupled with a 2400 DEMI preamp and
my second Drake converter.
73, Ed - KL7UW
At 07:44 AM 5/9/2009, Norman W Osborne wrote:
>Hello to All,
>
>Looking for suggestions for feed lines to my preamps, could I use RG213-U ?
>I am thinking this should be ok as both lines will be only about 10ft in
>length.
>
> >From the preamps, I am using hard line.
>
>I also have a UEK3000 receive converter for 2.4 , for feedline, could I get
>away with RG6, same cable used for sat TV.
>the run will about 80 ft....
>
>Getting setup for future HEO.s
>
>
>Any suggestion greatly appreciated and many thanks in advance.
>
>
>Norman
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