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Today's Topics:
1. WD9EWK from DM51/DM52, Saturday (2 May) evening...
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
2. Quadfilar Construction (Dave Guimont)
3. Elk Mounting (Jerry Felts)
4. Homebrew Elk antenna?? (Jerry Felts)
5. Re: Question about building the "Cheap" Antenna by WA5VJB
(Tom Busch)
6. Re: AMSAT bouncing email redirections? (Paul Williamson)
7. Re: Question about building the "Cheap" Antenna by WA5VJB
(racer5039)
8. Re: New version of AO-27 Schedule Lister released!!! (Greg D.)
9. Re: AMSAT bouncing email redirections? (john heath)
10. Another memorable AO-7 QSO (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
11. Typo in earlier post (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
12. Re: AMSAT bouncing email redirections? (Anthony Monteiro)
13. Re: Another memorable AO-7 QSO (Dave Donaldson)
14. Elk Mounting (n8bbq@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
15. Re: Another memorable AO-7 QSO (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:09:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK from DM51/DM52, Saturday (2 May)
evening...
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <266637.22040.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi!
After the hamfest in Sierra Vista AZ (grid DM41) tomorrow morning, I
will plan to stop on the DM51/DM52 grid boundary in southeast Arizona
for the AO-51 passes around 0040 and 0220 UTC Sunday (Saturday evening
in North America). I know that these grids are not heard often on the
satellites, and would be happy to make QSOs with anyone needing
either - or both - of these grids.
As I typically do on my road trips, I would be happy to send QSLs to
anyone I work from DM51/DM52 and/or from the hamfest tomorrow morning.
Just e-mail me the QSO details, and I'll put a card in the mailbox.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:22:14 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Quadfilar Construction
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090501212218166.TIGP19475@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xx.xxx>
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I've resurrected my web site, and can now pass on the instructions on
to build a quadfilar. I've since lost the e-mail of the requesters,
but send any questions directly to me...
It is the best performer of any small antenna, easy to build, and the
connectors are the most expensive part, use the best "N's" you can find!
http://cid-1973adc8c1d3207c.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/.Public?sa=89786199
and click on Quadfil1 for construction...
Several other files pertain.....
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:13:18 -0600
From: Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Elk Mounting
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<21baf9ff0905011713x15d0c5eeka224aa21c50b4789@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Got my Elk antenna today its too bad I can't find time till maybe tomorrow
eveing to play with it. It looks really super. Any one use it on a tripod??
Trying to figure out ideas on how to mount it. Holding it in your had with
a lil extra PVC is fairly easy but off hand I don't see a way to do it on a
tripod.
--
Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota
www.freewebs.com/nr5a
http://nr5abikeblog.blogspot.com/
http://nr5abeaconblog.blogspot.com/
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:15:31 -0600
From: Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Homebrew Elk antenna??
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<21baf9ff0905011715o70ed1be7k18c89587d0040972@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Maybe I'm dreaming this but I thought I saw online somewhere a set of plans
or a article on building a copy of the Elk antenna. It was 9 elements and
seems like it used a square boom. Am I going totally nuts or just loosing
it?
--
Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota
www.freewebs.com/nr5a
http://nr5abikeblog.blogspot.com/
http://nr5abeaconblog.blogspot.com/
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:19:30 -0400
From: Tom Busch <tom@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Question about building the "Cheap" Antenna by
WA5VJB
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <49FB9FA2.2060406@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I made the element (the long part) in the same plane as the other
elements. I figure the short part is the matching section.
TomB WB8WOR
Rich Dailey (gmail) wrote:
> At 08:52 PM 4/28/2009, you wrote:
>
>> I am working on some a couple of the "Cheap" antennas by WA5VJB, that have
been talked about on here.
>> I am building these for Field Day and th use for some moble work on AO-51 &
AO-27 after that.
>> My question is this, Is the "J" /DE element centered in line with the
others or is just the long side in line?
>>
>
> Hi Marv - See the link below. The element is centered at the point midway
between
> the free end and the most outward part of the bend where the matching length
heads back
> toward the feedpoint.
>
> That's about as complicated as I can put it - hi...
>
> Rich, N8UX
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:21:45 -0700
From: Paul Williamson <kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT bouncing email redirections?
To: bruninga@xxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <a06240815c621791ebed5@xxxx.xxx.x.xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 7:44 AM -0400 5/1/09, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>Is anyone else having issues with the AMSAT email re-director?
Please, reports about problems with AMSAT mail aliases should come to me, not
to AMSAT-BB. It's off-topic for AMSAT-BB, since it's not about amateur radio
satellites.
>Our sysadmin says it is an error at AMSAT
>that is not properly carrying through the true originators email
>identity or something liket that.
We do carry through the originator's true identity. That might be considered
wrong by some administrators, but it's the right thing to do.
>Thus when the copy gets to our system, it bounces because the
>originators address does not match that field which should be
>carrying the originators address. Or at least that is how it is
>explained to me.
When the copy arrives at your system, it bears an originator's address (the
true one) that doesn't match the identity of the system doing the delivery.
That's a little different than what you said.
If you have trouble receiving mail through your mail alias for this reason,
and you can't change the minds of your mail administrators about it, then a
quick solution is to get another email account somewhere else and use that one
to receive your mail alias messages.
73 -Paul
kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:28:19 -0500
From: "racer5039" <racer5039@x.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Question about building the "Cheap" Antenna by
WA5VJB
To: "Tom Busch" <tom@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP94B86DA7136AA9A7E04F33AC6A0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Thanks Tom,
I have it all made. I may need to do a Rev. 1.2 on it. I have the DE
centered. I thought about it and just drilled the holes. It will be easy to
change if I don't like to outcome. I'm going to try and get it on an antenna
checker this weekend to see how it tunes up and where.
Marv
N0FJP, EN34jc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Busch" <tom@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Question about building the "Cheap" Antenna by
WA5VJB
>I made the element (the long part) in the same plane as the other
> elements. I figure the short part is the matching section.
>
> TomB WB8WOR
>
> Rich Dailey (gmail) wrote:
>> At 08:52 PM 4/28/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>> I am working on some a couple of the "Cheap" antennas by WA5VJB, that
>>> have been talked about on here.
>>> I am building these for Field Day and th use for some moble work on
>>> AO-51 & AO-27 after that.
>>> My question is this, Is the "J" /DE element centered in line with the
>>> others or is just the long side in line?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Marv - See the link below. The element is centered at the point
>> midway between
>> the free end and the most outward part of the bend where the matching
>> length heads back
>> toward the feedpoint.
>>
>> That's about as complicated as I can put it - hi...
>>
>> Rich, N8UX
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> program!
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>>
>>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:19:24 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New version of AO-27 Schedule Lister
released!!!
To: <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W7905EB1D86CA51B605DB0A96A0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Hi George,
Ah, I have Java 1.5.something. I tried it on another machine at work that has
1.6 and it works, so that was the problem. I expect my Windows system is even
older (I hardly ever use it).
Some gentle feedback to your son... If he doesn't absolutely need to use
something unique in the 1.6 version to make the program work, it would be a
bit easier on his customers to not require the latest support library. My
main computer is running out of space, and after upgrading Java I could no
longer log in. Had to go in as root and uninstall it. The machine is in
desperate need of being rebuilt, so I guess it's my fault, But regardless,
his code will not run here until I do an awful lot of work.
Anyway, mystery solved.
Greg KO6TH
> From: ka3hsw@xxx.xxx
> To: ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New version of AO-27 Schedule Lister released!!!
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:26:38 -0500
>
> I'm no Java whiz either (my son is the programmer, not me), but my best
> guess is that you need to update your Java Runtime version. The program was
> compiled on a computer with JRE 1.6.0, so you probably need that version.
> The Windows .exe has run fine on all 5 computers I've tested it on, and all
> are at JRE 1.6.0. The .jar ran fine on the Ubuntu 8.04 ("Hardy Heron") box
> I tested it on, but I did not check the Java version on that machine.
>
> In Windows, you can check your JRE version clicking the Java icon in Control
> Panel, or by typing
>
> java -version
>
> on the command line.
>
> 73,
>
> George, KA3HSW
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] New version of AO-27 Schedule Lister released!!!
>
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> I'm kind of dense when it comes to Java applications, but I can't get either
> version to run. The Windows version pops up an error box saying "Could not
> find main class. Program will exit.", and the Linux (cross-platform) version
> says all this stuff, below. What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
>
> greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> java -jar AO-27Lister1.1.jar
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad
> version number in .class file
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass2(Native Method)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:719)
> at
> java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:160)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:254)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
> at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:268)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319)
> greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail.
http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 08:42:10 +0100
From: "john heath" <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT bouncing email redirections?
To: "Paul Williamson" <kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <F0CFFD7545C94AEE8D59E78681A57B48@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
This thread gives me the opportunity to say a long overdue thank you to Paul
for giving the satellite community such a good service with the amsat-bb.
It has been re directing my satellite mail for 5 or 6 years or more, without
any problems.
Thanks Paul
73 john G7HIA
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:58:54 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another memorable AO-7 QSO
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<050220091158.7169.49FC357E000807DE00001C0122230704929B0A02D2089B9A019C0
4040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
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Hey everyone,
I love it when a plan comes together!
As I pointed the Elk through the wall toward the northeast this morning -
11:13 UTC - I heard my call in CW, coming from Pedro, EA8AVI. We had a couple
of exchanges, and I added Africa via the Canary Islands to the log here.
Pedro is one of several hams on the islands who appear on the all-time
"roster" of AO-7 users that is part of the Web site for our Grand Old Girl.
After finding his call on the roster, I looked him up on QRZ.com and emailed
to ask whether he was still active and would be willing to try for a schedule.
In typical ham fashion, he not only agreed - but he enlisted another operator
on the islands, Cecilio, EB8BRX.
The three of us exchanged emails and tried a couple weeks ago, but a computer
glitch on this end messed that up. I noticed on Thursday that this early pass
this morning and the early one this evening had a good footprint for Georgia
and west Africa, so I emailed them again. They responded just as quickly and
enthusiastically as they did to my earlier emails, and Pedro was waiting on me
this morning.
My thanks to them for their cooperation and friendship. Thanks, too, to Joe -
K3SZH - who mentioned some calls of African stations he'd heard on AO-7 and
pointed me in the direction of the all-time roster on the Web page. Thanks,
too, to Patrick, WD9EWK, who suggested Africa as my next target after a couple
of European countries made it into my log.
What a great way to start the day!
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 12:32:23 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Typo in earlier post
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<050220091232.20416.49FC3D56000D881500004FC022230704929B0A02D2089B9A019C
04040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
Hey everyone,
My apologies. Cecilio's call is EB8BRZ, not EB8BRX. He prefers SSB to CW, so
I'm going to try to work him this evening in SSB just for the heck of it!
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 08:50:46 -0400
From: Anthony Monteiro <aa2tx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT bouncing email redirections?
To: Paul Williamson <kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx>, bruninga@xxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090502125049.952Conf00E9sI@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Hi Paul,
The problem that Bob, Alan and I have seen is that the AMSAT
server sends a reject message back to us. We were speculating that
it was related to something that Comcast was doing but it is working
at the moment. Comcast had a nation-wide network email system
crash in April. Hopefully, they fixed it permanently.
I don't think the problem was with the AMSAT server.
73,
Tony AA2TX
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:51:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dave Donaldson <wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another memorable AO-7 QSO
To: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <49FC7A0F.4010308@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> .......I love it when a plan comes together!
>
> As I pointed the Elk through the wall toward the northeast this morning -
11:13 UTC - I heard my call in CW, coming from Pedro, EA8AVI...............
Thanks for the reports. I get hope my outfit (except that 500 foot hill
directly to the south that I live on...) will work! At least I can live
your experience with you , great reports. Someday I will get time to
get on the bird!
73,
Dave
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dave Donaldson
Burnsville, MN USA
WB7DRU
Navy-Marine Corps MARS: NNN0AXK
EN34
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 7:34:35 -0400
From: <n8bbq@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Elk Mounting
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090502113435.3PX6O.401396.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Jerry - NR5A,
Here are some pictures of my Elk setup:
http://www.flexresources.com/n8bbq/pics/ElkAssembled.jpg
http://www.flexresources.com/n8bbq/pics/ElkDisassembled.jpg
The instructions stressed getting the feedline away from the antenna at a 90
degree angle.
I tuck the end of the plastic pipe under my right arm and hold the closest
strut with my right hand.
When held like a pistol grip, the antenna is horizontal. Polarity can usually
be corrected by rotating the right wrist 90 degrees one way or the other. The
feedline is a 6 foot RG58 BNC to BNC jumper with a BNC to PL259 adapter at the
antenna end. A better feedline might be in order but it's what was on the
shelf in the shack. The IC-W32A and headset with remote PTT complete the
setup. Preliminary testing is good on the FM LEO's.
Have fun.
'73 de N8BBQ
Ed
Got my Elk antenna today its too bad I can't find time till maybe tomorrow
eveing to play with it. It looks really super. Any one use it on a tripod??
Trying to figure out ideas on how to mount it. Holding it in your had with
a lil extra PVC is fairly easy but off hand I don't see a way to do it on a
tripod.
--
Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 18:38:02 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another memorable AO-7 QSO
To: Dave Donaldson <wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<050220091838.11132.49FC930A0008218100002B7C22228869349B0A02D2089B9A019C
04040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
Hey Dave,
Thanks for your note. I am very fortunate that, given my approach and setup
here, I get good shots in most directions. My worst "window" is the quadrant
from 90 degrees azimuth to 180 degrees azimuth. I feel lucky because it COULD
be 0 degrees to 90 degrees, and none of this would be possible!
Tim
-------------- Original message from Dave Donaldson <wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxx>: ---
-----------
>
> n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> > .......I love it when a plan comes together!
> > > As I pointed the Elk through the wall toward the northeast this morning
-
> 11:13 UTC - I heard my call in CW, coming from Pedro, EA8AVI...............
> Thanks for the reports. I get hope my outfit (except that 500 foot hill
> directly to the south that I live on...) will work! At least I can live
> your experience with you , great reports. Someday I will get time to
> get on the bird!
>
> 73,
> Dave
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Dave Donaldson
> Burnsville, MN USA
> WB7DRU
> Navy-Marine Corps MARS: NNN0AXK
> EN34
>
>
>
>
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>
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