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Today's Topics:

1.  AO-51 in mode L/US (Mark L. Hammond)
2. Re: AO7 QSO  ACCOMPLISHMENT'S (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
3. Re: rss feed (Josh Smith)
4.  AO-10 (WILLIAMS MICHAEL)
5. Re: rss feed (Joe Veldhuis)
6. Re: rss feed (Joseph Armbruster)
7. Re: rss feed (Joseph Armbruster)
8. Re: AO-51 in mode L/US (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
9. Re: Preamps?? (Mark Lunday, WD4ELG)
10. Re: Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig - CT-17 hardware
modneeded (Bill Dzurilla)
11.  L/U on AO-51 (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
12. Re: AO-51 in mode L/US (Walter Holmes)
13.  Ist man in space (Bruce)
14. Re: Ist man in space (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604)
15. Re: Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig - CT-17
hardwaremodneeded (Erich Eichmann)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:47:05 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 in mode L/US
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi All,

I had AO-51 all to myself right after the mode change.   It sounds great in
this mode.  It's time to get some transmit time on those L-band
modules/upconverters and/or check out your S-band downconverters!

By the way---many of us use 1268.703 on the uplink!!


April 13 - April 19

FM Repeater, L/US
Uplink: 1268.700 Mhz FM
Downlinks: 435.300 and 2401.200 Mhz FM



Hope to work you there.

73,



Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:55:28 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO7 QSO  ACCOMPLISHMENT'S
To: "k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxxx <k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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My congrats to Igor and Mike. Great accomplishments, guys!


And thanks again to you, Joe!


73 to all,


Tim - N3TL -------------- Original message from "k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
<k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxx>: --------------


>  UA9CS Igor Congratulations on your 6000 plus qso's.
>  You sure keep AO7 active.
>
>  KC9ELU Mike the first 1000 are the hardest congratulation.
>
>  N3TL Tim  see it was only a skip across the pond well done my friend.
>  And thanks to Terry G1WPR for being a good cw reader.
>
>  K3SZH
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:18:17 -0400
From: Josh Smith <juicewvu@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: rss feed
To: Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Kent,
I think this is an excellent idea.  Perhaps something to generate an
ical file for sat modes on the birds that change modes often (think
AO-51).  I would also be interested in helping with the development of
this system.

Joe,
I would be very interested in a script that consumed this RSS feed and
updated the predict.db file.  Maybe even a patch to predict that made
this a built in feature?


Thanks,
Josh Smith
KD8HRX

email/jabber:  juicewvu@xxxxx.xxx
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I would love to see a RSS feed.
>
>
> 73, Kent K5KNT
> AMSAT #36765
> ARRL
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:33:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: WILLIAMS MICHAEL <k9qho6762@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-10
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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AO-10 is in full sunlight from Mar 24 - Jul 24.
?
Has anyone copied the beacon at 145.810?
?
Mike
K9QHO
AMSAT 33589
?

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:29:48 -0400
From: Joe Veldhuis <jvn8fq@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: rss feed
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090412212948.be1ffc46.jvn8fq@xxxxx.xxx>
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A patch to Predict itself would be a project for a better C hacker than
myself, but an external script would be pretty easy, as long as the feed has
the necessary data (name, NORAD number, freqs/bandwidth and keps) in a
convenient format. If/when the feed goes up, I will write something and post
it here for anyone interested.

Joe KJ4JIO: something like this would be easiest to parse for applications
like this: (hope the listserv doesn't screw up my formatting)

<sat name="AO-7" norad=7530>
<transponder name="Mode A" type="Linear">
<upstart>145.850</upstart>
<upend>145.950</upend>
<dnstart>29.400</dnstart>
<dnend>29.500</dnend>
</transponder>
<transponder name="Mode B" type="Linear">
<upstart>432.125</upstart>
<upend>432.175</upend>
<dnstart>145.975</dnstart>
<dnend>145.925</dnend>
</transponder>
<transponder name="FM/packet example" type="FM">
<upstart>145.850</upstart>
<dnstart>436.800</dnstart>
</transponder>
<beacon name="Mode A beacon" freq=29.502 type="CW" />
<beacon name="Mode B beacon" freq=145.9775 type="CW" />
<kep1>1 07530U 74089B   09100.65238050 -.00000027  00000-0  10000-3 0
4485</kep1>
<kep2>2 07530 101.4327 127.7953 0012098 041.9469 318.2525
12.53575514574259</kep2>
</sat>

You could, of course, include some additional "human-readable" info that the
parser would simply ignore.

-Joe, N8FQ

On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:18:17 -0400
Josh Smith <juicewvu@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Joe,
> I would be very interested in a script that consumed this RSS feed and
> updated the predict.db file.  Maybe even a patch to predict that made
> this a built in feature?


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:37:06 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: rss feed
To: Joe Veldhuis <jvn8fq@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <49E29742.2010303@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Joe,

This Should be cake, although i'm not familiar at all with the predict
source code.  I should be able to hack this together in my spare time.
In fact, i'm going to set up a new VM tonight just for satellite app
hacking and such.

Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO

Joe Veldhuis wrote:
> A patch to Predict itself would be a project for a better C hacker than
myself, but an external script would be pretty easy, as long as the feed has
the necessary data (name, NORAD number, freqs/bandwidth and keps) in a
convenient format. If/when the feed goes up, I will write something and post
it here for anyone interested.
>
> Joe KJ4JIO: something like this would be easiest to parse for applications
like this: (hope the listserv doesn't screw up my formatting)
>
> <sat name="AO-7" norad=7530>
>  <transponder name="Mode A" type="Linear">
>   <upstart>145.850</upstart>
>   <upend>145.950</upend>
>   <dnstart>29.400</dnstart>
>   <dnend>29.500</dnend>
>  </transponder>
>  <transponder name="Mode B" type="Linear">
>   <upstart>432.125</upstart>
>   <upend>432.175</upend>
>   <dnstart>145.975</dnstart>
>   <dnend>145.925</dnend>
>  </transponder>
>  <transponder name="FM/packet example" type="FM">
>   <upstart>145.850</upstart>
>   <dnstart>436.800</dnstart>
>  </transponder>
>  <beacon name="Mode A beacon" freq=29.502 type="CW" />
>  <beacon name="Mode B beacon" freq=145.9775 type="CW" />
>  <kep1>1 07530U 74089B   09100.65238050 -.00000027  00000-0  10000-3 0
4485</kep1>
>  <kep2>2 07530 101.4327 127.7953 0012098 041.9469 318.2525
12.53575514574259</kep2>
> </sat>
>
> You could, of course, include some additional "human-readable" info that the
parser would simply ignore.
>
> -Joe, N8FQ
>
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:18:17 -0400
> Josh Smith <juicewvu@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>> Joe,
>> I would be very interested in a script that consumed this RSS feed and
>> updated the predict.db file.  Maybe even a patch to predict that made
>> this a built in feature?
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:42:14 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: rss feed
To: Josh Smith <juicewvu@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	Kent Frazier
	<k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <49E29876.3060606@xxxxx.xxx>
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Josh,

Cool.  Let's see what type of feedback we get on this.

I'm not familiar with the predict.db file.  Where does it originate and
what system uses it?  Send me a sample copy and I should be able to hack
this together reasonably quickly, once the RSS tags are well defined.

For the time being, you're welcome to browse through my scraping
script.  This is what I wrote to pull the status data off the amsat
website and push it out to a txt file.  It's fairly rough code but it
works :-)

Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO

Josh Smith wrote:
> Kent,
> I think this is an excellent idea.  Perhaps something to generate an
> ical file for sat modes on the birds that change modes often (think
> AO-51).  I would also be interested in helping with the development of
> this system.
>
> Joe,
> I would be very interested in a script that consumed this RSS feed and
> updated the predict.db file.  Maybe even a patch to predict that made
> this a built in feature?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Josh Smith
> KD8HRX
>
> email/jabber:  juicewvu@xxxxx.xxx
> phone:  304.237.9369(c)
>
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>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I would love to see a RSS feed.
>>
>>
>> 73, Kent K5KNT
>> AMSAT #36765
>> ARRL
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:54:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 in mode L/US
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
	<165336468.752181239587677963.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.x
xxxxxx.xxx>
	
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I'll be there next pass
73 Bob CN87

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark L. Hammond

To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx

Sent: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:47:05 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 in mode L/US



Hi All,



I had AO-51 all to myself right after the mode change.   It sounds great in
this mode.  It's time to get some transmit time on those L-band
modules/upconverters and/or check out your S-band downconverters!



By the way---many of us use 1268.703 on the uplink!!





April 13 - April 19



FM Repeater, L/US

Uplink: 1268.700 Mhz FM

Downlinks: 435.300 and 2401.200 Mhz FM







Hope to work you there.



73,







Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:11:53 -0400
From: "Mark Lunday, WD4ELG" <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Preamps??
To: "'Mark L. Hammond'" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>,
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"'Jerry Felts'" <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001101c9bbdd$36fb86b0$a4f29410$@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I second those comments, Mark.  I have ARR mastmount 160 watt preamps for 2
and 440.  Huge diff.

I was not surprised that it made a diff on the linear birds.  What DID
surprise me is HOW MUCH it helped with low passes on the FM birds so that I
could work longer distances.  What I discovered is that others were hearing
me, but I did not hear them until I got the preamp (before the preamp I
would call CQ satellite and not hear a response, but I would get an email
from the op saying he was calling me.  After the preamp, solid copy!)

Mark Lunday
WD4ELG
wd4elg@xxxx.xxx
http://wd4elg.net

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Mark L. Hammond
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:38 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Jerry Felts
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Preamps??

Hi Jerry,

I cannot say enough good things about the preamps AND the PEOPLE at Advance
Receiver Research!  They are always personable, quick to ship/repair, and
their products are awesome.

I have around 5 of their preamps around the shack right now (okay, four are
at the antennas where they belong!).   It makes the difference between
hearing and not hearing.

In the last few weeks I finally added a 2M mast-mount model at the antenna.
I keep kicking myself for not doing it years ago...I can't believe how much
better I can hear AO-7 now.

Suggestion---I have found that over the years I tend to "mess around" rather
than get what I really want to begin with.  In that vein---I don't think you
will never regret getting the 160 Watt mast mounted versions:

http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html

Models relevant to 2M and 70 cm:

MSP144VDG-160
MSP432VDG-160

Yes, they are an investment of hard earned ca$h.  But they're a GREAT
investment, if you want to hear...

73,

Mark N8MH

>Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:34:17 -0500
>From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Preamps??
>To: "'Jerry Felts'" <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Message-ID: <COL0-DAV19AC034F9A976954FA48CC8A7E0@xxx.xxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Jerry,
>
>     Like all things in Ham Radio it boils down to how much you want or
have
>available to spend :-)
>
>There are lots of folks out there
>
>http://www.advancedreceiver.com
>
>http://www.ssbusa.com/ham.html
>
>http://www.downeastmicrowave.com/
>
>http://www.hamtronics.com/
>
>http://www.ramseyelectronics.com
>
>are just a few.
>
>RSGB and ARRL VHF/UHF handbooks all have designs in them as well.
>
>73,
>Joe kk0sd
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
>Behalf Of Jerry Felts
>Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:23 AM
>To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamps??
>
>I've seen Preamps mentioned several times now so Who? What? Where? I have
>not seen them in the AES catalog I got the other day.  Can you build one?
>Need info on them!!
>
>Jerry - NR5A
>
>--
>Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota
>www.freewebs.com/nr5a
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Minimalist_QRP_Transceivers/
>http://www.cakewalkblogs.com/nr5asminimalradio/index.aspx
>http://nr5abeaconblog.blogspot.com/
>_______________________________________________


Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig - CT-17
	hardware	modneeded
To: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <242167.57841.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Erich,

Wow, thank you so much for the reply.  This is wonderful news.  I was pulling
my hair our trying to figure out an easy way to do the hardware mod, and like
an angel you give me a much easier solution.  The patch works fine and I am in
business.

One question: In the last line of the patch description on your website, it
says: "To correct the downlink frequency during a QSO use the "Downl. Corr."
controls in menu CAT or the +/- keys of the numerical pad of the keyboard."  I
thought that the software automatically corrected the downlink frequency?
Does this mean we should use the "Downl. Corr." controls or the +/- keys and
not the VFO dial on the radio to QSY?

73, Bill NZ5N


--- On Sun, 4/12/09, Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:

> From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig - CT-17 hardware
modneeded
> To: billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 5:35 PM
> Hello Bill,
> the SatPC32.Exe and SatPC32ISS.Exe files that come with the
> 12.8 setup file
> require the hardware handshaking  I have described in the
> Readme(Icom) text
> (the "normal" SatPC32 only with the semi duplex
> radios IC-706MKIIG and
> IC-7000 when used as single radio for satellite operation,
> SatPC32ISS with
> the IC-910H for "inband" operation in
> non-satellite mode).
>
> Meanwhile this hardware handshaking is no longer necessary.
> Some time ago I
> have uploaded patch files on my website www.dk1tb.de
> (English page
> "Downloads", sect. 5 "Patches"). With
> the IC-910H and IC-7000 the PTT status
> is now checked via the software (CAT command hex. 1C. I
> didn't know that
> command when I released 12.8. My manual doesn't mention
> it).
> The IC-706MKGII doesn't provide such command, but Tony
> Monteiro, AA2TX,
> found a solution also for that radio and told me the trick
> - many thanks to
> him. So, also this radio does no longer  require the extra
> line between the
> radio's
> ACC jacket and the PC's serial port.
>
> On my website I have described how to use the patch files.
>
> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Dzurilla"
> <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig -
> CT-17 hardware
> modneeded
>
>
> >
> > This may be old news to many but perhaps will save a
> few hours of
> > frustration for newcomers.
> >
> > In my prior post about HRD Sat Tracking slowness with
> my Windows Vista
> > computer, I reported there that ST was working very
> slowly with my Lenovo
> > desktop running Windows Vista, but that it ran at
> normal speed with a
> > laptop running Windows XP. However, the frequencies
> were not tracking
> > properly -- the transmit frequency would
> "stick" as the receive frequency
> > on my IC-7000.
> >
> > It seems there is a hardware cause for this issue.
> After I gave up trying
> > to get HRD Sat Tracking to work with the laptop, I
> downloaded SatPC32,
> > another program that automatically sets transmit and
> receive frequency to
> > account for doppler. The same "sticking"
> problem occurred with that
> > program.
> >
> > The ReadMe(Icom) in SatPC32 provides what appears to
> be an explanation for
> > this issue:
> > **************************
> > With ICOM half duplex transceivers (IC-706MKIIG,
> IC-7000) hardware
> > handshaking must be installed to suspend computer
> control while the radio
> > is transmitting. Frequency changes are theoretically
> possible while the
> > radio
> > is transmitting, but frequency errors will occur,
> i.e., the frequencies
> > of VFO A and VFO B will be exchanged.
> >
> > Unfortunately there is no way to check the PTT state
> of the radio via
> > the CAT software. Therefore hardware handshaking is
> needed to prevent
> > writing to the radio while it is transmitting. On the
> radio side pin 7
> > of the ACC socket can be used for this purpose. The
> voltage at this pin
> > is approximately + 8.0 V while the radio is in RX
> mode. In TX mode the
> > voltage at pin 7 drops to 0.
> >
> > Pin 7 of the ACC socket must be connected with the CTS
> pin of the
> > serial port on the PC side (pin 8 of the 9-pin, pin 5
> of the 25-pin
> > RS232 cable connector). I have connected these pins
> via a diode
> > and a 5K resistor, see Acc_Com.jpg in this sub folder.
> >
> > IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT EVERYONE INSTALLS THIS
> LINE AT HIS OWN RISK!
> >
> > When the radio pulls down the voltage at pin 7 to 0,
> it signals the PC
> > not to send data. As soon as the radio is back in RX
> mode the frequencies
> > are updated by the program.
> >
> > ATTENTION! There must be NO bridge between pins 7 and
> 8 of the 9-pin
> > (5 and 4 of the 25-pin) cable connector at the PC
> side! Otherwise the
> > voltage at Pin 8 (rsp.Pin 5) and therefore also at Pin
> 7 of the ACC
> > socket will be pulled down and the radio will be
> switched into transmit
> > mode. The sketches in the Icom sub folder provide this
> bridge. If it is
> > built in, please, remove it.
> >
> > The 25-pin Connector at the ICOM CT-17 also provides a
> bridge between
> > pins 4 and 5 and other pins. The CTS pin of the cable
> connector at the
> > PC side must be connected only to Pin 7 of the ACC
> socket.
> > *************************
> > Thus, as I appreciate this, a standard ICOM CT-17 CAT
> cable will not work
> > properly with SatPC32, and presumably not with HRD Sat
> Tracking either.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm this? Does anyone sell modified
> CT-17 cables that will
> > do the job?
> >
> > 73, Bill NZ5N
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:48:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  L/U on AO-51
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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A most interesting (learning) QSO was completed with Greg KO6TH on AO-51.  L
band antenna (22el yagi) mounted inside a 20M Quad, no elevation ability.
70cm yagi on a az/el system-none of it computer controlled.  Tx a IC-1271A
driving a KJ6KO amp.  No automatic doppler correction.  With three rotors and
manual  doppler correction and trying to see the computer screen too far away
for my bifocals to work, it was a learning experience.  I will be calling
Martha tomorrow to order the LVB tracker, and putting one of my 16 turn helix
antennas on the az/el system and move computer display or get stronger
glasses!  This is fun stuff! Thanks to Drew and the crew  for playing with
these different modes.  I can receive 2.4ghz with a 3 foot dish, but I ran out
of hands.
try it you'll like it!
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:06:57 -0500
From: "Walter Holmes" <walterh@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 in mode L/US
To: <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'Mark L. Hammond'" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I'll catch you on there tomorrow evening Mark & Bob, no good passes tonight
for me..

Walter/K5WH ...

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:55 PM
To: Mark L. Hammond
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 in mode L/US

I'll be there next pass
73 Bob CN87

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark L. Hammond

To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx

Sent: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:47:05 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 in mode L/US



Hi All,



I had AO-51 all to myself right after the mode change.   It sounds great in
this mode.  It's time to get some transmit time on those L-band
modules/upconverters and/or check out your S-band downconverters!



By the way---many of us use 1268.703 on the uplink!!





April 13 - April 19



FM Repeater, L/US

Uplink: 1268.700 Mhz FM

Downlinks: 435.300 and 2401.200 Mhz FM







Hope to work you there.



73,







Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]



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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:15:48 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Ist man in space
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I don't think I saw mention of this on the bb. April 12, 1961 Yuri
Gagrin became the first man to orbit the earth. My how time flies.

73...bruce

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:43:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 <faunt@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ist man in space
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090413054339.EB8A733C8C@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx>

Yes, there have been Yuri's Night parties many places.
It's also the 28th aniversary of the STS-1 launch.

73, doug

From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:15:48 -0500

I don't think I saw mention of this on the bb. April 12, 1961 Yuri
Gagrin became the first man to orbit the earth. My how time flies.



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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:19:01 +0200
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig - CT-17
	hardwaremodneeded
To: <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Bill,
my remark in the last line of the patch description relates to satellite
operation with a single semi duplex radio, i.e. the IC-706MKIIG.

Of course, the software automatically corrects the uplink and downlink
frequencies for Doppler correction and for QSY around the passband of SSB
sats you can use the radio's VFO knob also with these radios.

The remark refers only to manual frequency "corrections" with SSB sats. With
satellite radios, i.e. the IC-910H, you can fine tune your uplink frequency
with the "Upl.Calibr." controls or the +/- keys for best audio pitch of your
own signal and save the correction in Doppler.SQF for future program starts.
That doesn't work with semi duplex radios, however, since you can't hear
your downlink signal. But you can assume that a QSO partner will tune his
radio for best audio pitch of your signal. That will possibly change also
his uplink frequency. Then you should leave your uplink frequency unchanged
and correct your downlink frequency for best audio of his signal via the
"Downl. Corr." controls or the +/- keys. That's the reason why the +/- keys
with satellite radios correct the uplink frequency but with semi duplex
radios correct the downlink freqency.

Recently I had several  SSB QSOs via FO-29 and VO-52 with a single
IC-706MKIIG. That worked very well.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Dzurilla" <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:18 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig - CT-17
hardwaremodneeded


>
> Erich,
>
> Wow, thank you so much for the reply.  This is wonderful news.  I was
> pulling my hair our trying to figure out an easy way to do the hardware
> mod, and like an angel you give me a much easier solution.  The patch
> works fine and I am in business.
>
> One question: In the last line of the patch description on your website,
> it says: "To correct the downlink frequency during a QSO use the "Downl.
> Corr." controls in menu CAT or the +/- keys of the numerical pad of the
> keyboard."  I thought that the software automatically corrected the
> downlink frequency?  Does this mean we should use the "Downl. Corr."
> controls or the +/- keys and not the VFO dial on the radio to QSY?
>
> 73, Bill NZ5N
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
>> From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig - CT-17
>> hardware modneeded
>> To: billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx
>> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 5:35 PM
>> Hello Bill,
>> the SatPC32.Exe and SatPC32ISS.Exe files that come with the
>> 12.8 setup file
>> require the hardware handshaking  I have described in the
>> Readme(Icom) text
>> (the "normal" SatPC32 only with the semi duplex
>> radios IC-706MKIIG and
>> IC-7000 when used as single radio for satellite operation,
>> SatPC32ISS with
>> the IC-910H for "inband" operation in
>> non-satellite mode).
>>
>> Meanwhile this hardware handshaking is no longer necessary.
>> Some time ago I
>> have uploaded patch files on my website www.dk1tb.de
>> (English page
>> "Downloads", sect. 5 "Patches"). With
>> the IC-910H and IC-7000 the PTT status
>> is now checked via the software (CAT command hex. 1C. I
>> didn't know that
>> command when I released 12.8. My manual doesn't mention
>> it).
>> The IC-706MKGII doesn't provide such command, but Tony
>> Monteiro, AA2TX,
>> found a solution also for that radio and told me the trick
>> - many thanks to
>> him. So, also this radio does no longer  require the extra
>> line between the
>> radio's
>> ACC jacket and the PC's serial port.
>>
>> On my website I have described how to use the patch files.
>>
>> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Dzurilla"
>> <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
>> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:05 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Tracking and SatPC32 w/ICOM rig -
>> CT-17 hardware
>> modneeded
>>
>>
>> >
>> > This may be old news to many but perhaps will save a
>> few hours of
>> > frustration for newcomers.
>> >
>> > In my prior post about HRD Sat Tracking slowness with
>> my Windows Vista
>> > computer, I reported there that ST was working very
>> slowly with my Lenovo
>> > desktop running Windows Vista, but that it ran at
>> normal speed with a
>> > laptop running Windows XP. However, the frequencies
>> were not tracking
>> > properly -- the transmit frequency would
>> "stick" as the receive frequency
>> > on my IC-7000.
>> >
>> > It seems there is a hardware cause for this issue.
>> After I gave up trying
>> > to get HRD Sat Tracking to work with the laptop, I
>> downloaded SatPC32,
>> > another program that automatically sets transmit and
>> receive frequency to
>> > account for doppler. The same "sticking"
>> problem occurred with that
>> > program.
>> >
>> > The ReadMe(Icom) in SatPC32 provides what appears to
>> be an explanation for
>> > this issue:
>> > **************************
>> > With ICOM half duplex transceivers (IC-706MKIIG,
>> IC-7000) hardware
>> > handshaking must be installed to suspend computer
>> control while the radio
>> > is transmitting. Frequency changes are theoretically
>> possible while the
>> > radio
>> > is transmitting, but frequency errors will occur,
>> i.e., the frequencies
>> > of VFO A and VFO B will be exchanged.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately there is no way to check the PTT state
>> of the radio via
>> > the CAT software. Therefore hardware handshaking is
>> needed to prevent
>> > writing to the radio while it is transmitting. On the
>> radio side pin 7
>> > of the ACC socket can be used for this purpose. The
>> voltage at this pin
>> > is approximately + 8.0 V while the radio is in RX
>> mode. In TX mode the
>> > voltage at pin 7 drops to 0.
>> >
>> > Pin 7 of the ACC socket must be connected with the CTS
>> pin of the
>> > serial port on the PC side (pin 8 of the 9-pin, pin 5
>> of the 25-pin
>> > RS232 cable connector). I have connected these pins
>> via a diode
>> > and a 5K resistor, see Acc_Com.jpg in this sub folder.
>> >
>> > IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT EVERYONE INSTALLS THIS
>> LINE AT HIS OWN RISK!
>> >
>> > When the radio pulls down the voltage at pin 7 to 0,
>> it signals the PC
>> > not to send data. As soon as the radio is back in RX
>> mode the frequencies
>> > are updated by the program.
>> >
>> > ATTENTION! There must be NO bridge between pins 7 and
>> 8 of the 9-pin
>> > (5 and 4 of the 25-pin) cable connector at the PC
>> side! Otherwise the
>> > voltage at Pin 8 (rsp.Pin 5) and therefore also at Pin
>> 7 of the ACC
>> > socket will be pulled down and the radio will be
>> switched into transmit
>> > mode. The sketches in the Icom sub folder provide this
>> bridge. If it is
>> > built in, please, remove it.
>> >
>> > The 25-pin Connector at the ICOM CT-17 also provides a
>> bridge between
>> > pins 4 and 5 and other pins. The CTS pin of the cable
>> connector at the
>> > PC side must be connected only to Pin 7 of the ACC
>> socket.
>> > *************************
>> > Thus, as I appreciate this, a standard ICOM CT-17 CAT
>> cable will not work
>> > properly with SatPC32, and presumably not with HRD Sat
>> Tracking either.
>> >
>> > Can anyone confirm this? Does anyone sell modified
>> CT-17 cables that will
>> > do the job?
>> >
>> > 73, Bill NZ5N
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> those of the author.
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>
>
>
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