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Today's Topics:

1. Re: HRD Sat Tracking program - slow? (Bill Dzurilla)
2.  Ham Radio Deluxe satellite control (William Liporace - WC2L)
3. Re: HRD Sat Tracking program - slow? (John Price)
4.  FS: Icom IC-910H w/1.2ghz, AG-1200, 25, 35 Mast Pre's,
Kenwood TM-D710 APRS, More! (Les Rayburn)
5. Re: FS: Icom IC-910H w/1.2ghz, AG-1200, 25, 35 Mast Pre's,
Kenwood TM-D710 APRS, More! (Les Rayburn)
6.   Re: Ham Radio Deluxe Queries (Mike Ryan)
7. Re: Egg Beater (Bruce Robertson)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD Sat Tracking program - slow?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <366889.36342.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Tim,

Is your cable something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380115790739

I have the same thing, except it's the one for ICOM rigs.  Also tried an ICOM
serial CAT interface with a separate USB-serial adapter, same result.

In Device Manager under Ports, is yours showing as "Prolific USB-to-Serial
Comm Port"?  The Prolific chipset seems to be the most popular, but I'm
wondering if something else might work better.

My setup works fine with the Basic Ham Radio Deluxe, DM-780, and other ham
software, only the Sat Tracking is problematic.  But if your set-up is working
with Sat Track, I should be able to get it to work somehow.

73, Bill


--- On Sat, 4/11/09, n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD Sat Tracking program - slow?
> To: billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 11:03 AM
>  Hey Bill,
>
>
> Nice to hear from you. Here, I havbe picked up three used
> Yaesu radios over the past year for the linear satellites
> and, in one case, for HF. Specifically, I have an FT-857D
> that I use for HF and the satellites, and two FT 817NDs
> which are mostly for the satellites. In my shack, such as it
> is, I use the 857 for transmit and one of the 817s for
> receive.
>
>
> I'm beginning to feel as though I have it really easy
> because I'm using a simple USB cable that connects the
> Acer to the accessory inputs on the Yaesu radios. I
> didn't have to install any kind of drivers or other
> software. I truly have it plug and play here.
>
>
> I don't know whether that helps, but I hope it does. I
> also should mention that I have full - and fully working -
> Doppler control usiong HRD, SatPC 32 and Orbitron - the
> latter with the WispDDE plug in. From an elmering
> standpoint, I thought it wise to learn about setting up all
> three for Doppler control.
>
> Talk to you soon,
>
> Tim -





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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:57:01 -0400
From: "William Liporace - WC2L" <wc2l@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Ham Radio Deluxe satellite control
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "'Simon \(HB9DRV\)'" <simon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <056701c9bac6$89875b10$9c961130$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Just from the little bit of reading. I am pretty sure Simon has/will be
working a lot on the satellite side of things. I have been pretty busy and
have lost track where his is at.

http://forums.ham-radio.ch/ is the best place for information, ask questions
and etc. If there are problems, place the information on the forum. If there
is a critical item Simon is great about responding to these issues.

Glad to see so much interest in the program. I am looking forward to Simon's
Linux version ;-)

73 Will WC2L



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:00:57 -0400
From: John Price <n4qwf1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD Sat Tracking program - slow?
To: "Mark Lunday, WD4ELG" <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>,	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<8d1b8e80904111100p549075d4w32a9dc26037d945b@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I bought a BIFO  USB810 USB/Serial cable that was recommended by the
folks at Uni_Trac for use with there sat interface. It has worked
flawlessly
for all comport connections. I use it with a DB9 nul modem to
interface my FT-847 and my Acer laptop XP via USB and have had no
issues. The Blue Computer converter cable I was trying to use before
would not work. It came with driver disk for XP and I downloaded the
Vista driver from there website. It works fine on my vista machine
too. You might try this cable. It might solve your problems. Good luck
with it.

73's <<John



On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>
wrote:
> Interesting. ?My problems are ALSO restricted to my USN to Serial interface.
> The one serial port on each computer works flawlessly.
>
> Mark Lunday
> WD4ELG
> wd4elg@xxxx.xxx
> http://wd4elg.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Bill Dzurilla
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:32 AM
> To: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD Sat Tracking program - slow?
>
>
> Tim,
>
> The USB-serial interface seems to be the weak link in almost all
> computer-to-radio programs I've seen. ?Could you tell me exactly which
> interface you are using with the Acer, where you bought it, and, if not plug
> and play, where did you get the driver?
>
> We bought one of those little Acer notebooks but are not using it for ham
> radio. ?I thought it was a great deal for $350 and now I'm seeing them for
> as low as $250.
>
> 73, Bill NZ5N
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/11/09, n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD Sat Tracking program - slow?
>> To: billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx
>> Cc: "Bill Dzurilla" <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 7:49 AM
>> ?Hey Bill and all,
>>
>>
>> I have version 4.1, I believe it's build 1895 (it's
>> on another computer), and it's very plainly labeled as a
>> Beta. I presumed in deciding to download it that there could
>> be some issue.
>>
>>
>> Here, however, there have been none - at all. It opens,
>> runs (including Google Earth), does everything smoothly and
>> without even the slightest problem.
>>
>>
>> As mentioned, I'm running it on an Acer Aspire One
>> Netbook, which has an Atom processor and XP home edition.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 to all,
>>
>> Tim - N3TL -------------- Original message from Bill
>> Dzurilla <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>: --------------
>>
>>
>> > Thanks for the replies. ?I have been playing with Sat
>> Track all day, using a Lenovo T61 laptop running Windows XP
>> Pro connected to an IC-7000, in Single Radio mode. ?It
>> appears that there are issues with Sat Track even with this
>> OS. ?Unlike with Vista, everything opens quickly and it
>> never uses even close to 100%
>> > of memory.
>> > However, the program immediately freezes and becomes
>> non-responsive if I click on Google Earth. ?More
>> importantly, it sometimes becomes non-responsive when I
>> click on TX, and the radio stays on transmit until I close
>> the program. ?Also, sometimes the frequencies get mixed up.
>> It will transmit on the downlink
>> > frequency or receive on the uplink frequency.
>> > Is the Sat Track beta "technology preview"
>> still buggy or am I doing something
>> > wrong?
>> >
>> > 73, Bill NZ5N
>> >
>> >
>> >
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--
N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator
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Email N4QWF@xxxxx.xxx
Echolink nodes #110903 -L #388463
http://home.comcast.net/~n4qwf/site/
Formerly KC4AHW  VK3FEZ
Amsat Member #27845
DXCC #33,478
VUCC SAT #135
WAS SAT #296
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LON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il
>From the Foothills of the Blueridge

*Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
proclaiming - "WOW, What a ride!"



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:43:39 -0500
From: "Les Rayburn" <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  FS: Icom IC-910H w/1.2ghz, AG-1200, 25, 35 Mast
	Pre's,	Kenwood TM-D710 APRS, More!
To: "VHF Contesting Reflector" <vhfcontesting@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
	<vhf@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
	<TM-D710_TM-V71@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <045132F6EBEB4999AC83D988B5970DF4@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Maybe with the IRS bill this year, so I need to sacrifice some great gear.
Wanted to offer these direct to the VHF/UHF & Satellite community before
placing them on Ebay.
Can accept Paypal (first choice), or money orders. My ebay feedback rating is
over 380 (all positive) and I've been a member since 1997, so you can buy with
confidence.

Also, have no fear, I'm not getting out of VHF/UHF, I'll just be working with
some of my older radios. I will be off 1.2ghz until I can afford a replacement
unit.


ICOM IC-910H VHF/UHF/SHF Transceiver
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Used one year. Non-Smoker. Original box, instructions, hand mic, etc.
Has 1.2ghz 10 watt unit installed and working great. UT-106 DSP unit is
included
in original box but not installed yet.

Clean, and ready for action.

$1,250


AG-25, AG-35, & (RARE) AG-1200 Mast Mounted Pre-Amps
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

Designed to work with the IC-910H. These have never been mounted outside (I
have attic mounted antenna array) so they're
super clean. Connect to the feedline from the IC-910H, powered and switched by
the rig, no sequencer needed. The AG-1200 is
no longer made, and very hard to fine.

$500 for the set of three

Kenwood TM-D710A Transceiver
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
This is Kenwood's new APRS dual band rig. It features dual band receive/TX,
with
complete APRS functionality. This is the perfect rig for rovers as it displays
your exact grid square location in real time. No more
guessing as to where you're at.

Unit comes complete with GPS antenna, and call cabling. Original box,
instructions, etc. Latest firmware is already installed too.
It's literally "plug and play". Never used mobile other than a brief test. I
was waiting to install it in the new truck.

Extension kit is included. Original box, instructions, etc.

$500


MFJ 269-PRO Antenna Analyzer (HF, VHF, UHF)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------

Perfect for tuning those Yagis, this unit has never been used outdoors.
Includes leather carrying case, slug kit,
rechargeable batteries, and AC power supply. Covers HF, 6 Meters, 2 Meters,
and 432mhz. Also can be used for
public service frequencies, etc. since it's the "Pro" unit. Includes "no tip"
stand which makes it much easier to work with than
other MFJ tuners.

Instructions included.

$250

Please reply directly to: Les Rayburn, N1LF (n1lf@xxxx.xxxx

Thanks, & 73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
EM63nf
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114






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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:57:19 -0500
From: "Les Rayburn" <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FS: Icom IC-910H w/1.2ghz, AG-1200, 25, 35
	Mast Pre's,	Kenwood TM-D710 APRS, More!
To: "VHF Contesting Reflector" <vhfcontesting@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
	<vhf@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
	<TM-D710_TM-V71@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <3C33D95694A64CE4A42980F80729043F@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Forgot an Item:

KJ6KO 1296mhz Amplifier and switching power Supply. 70 Watts output, requires
28 Volt power supply (included). For more details visit:

http://users.innercite.com/kj6ko/forsale.htm

This really completes your 1.296mhz station! Sells normally for $220, I'll
sell for $100!

Also, buyers for all items must pay shipping and insurance. Actual cost only.
I usually use UPS Ground.

73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
EM63nf
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114








From: Les Rayburn
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:43 PM
To: VHF Contesting Reflector ; vhf@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx ; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx ;
TM-D710_TM-V71@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: FS: Icom IC-910H w/1.2ghz, AG-1200, 25,35 Mast Pre's, Kenwood TM-D710
APRS, More!


Maybe with the IRS bill this year, so I need to sacrifice some great gear.
Wanted to offer these direct to the VHF/UHF & Satellite community before
placing them on Ebay.
Can accept Paypal (first choice), or money orders. My ebay feedback rating is
over 380 (all positive) and I've been a member since 1997, so you can buy with
confidence.

Also, have no fear, I'm not getting out of VHF/UHF, I'll just be working with
some of my older radios. I will be off 1.2ghz until I can afford a replacement
unit.


ICOM IC-910H VHF/UHF/SHF Transceiver
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Used one year. Non-Smoker. Original box, instructions, hand mic, etc.
Has 1.2ghz 10 watt unit installed and working great. UT-106 DSP unit is
included
in original box but not installed yet.

Clean, and ready for action.

$1,250


AG-25, AG-35, & (RARE) AG-1200 Mast Mounted Pre-Amps
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

Designed to work with the IC-910H. These have never been mounted outside (I
have attic mounted antenna array) so they're
super clean. Connect to the feedline from the IC-910H, powered and switched by
the rig, no sequencer needed. The AG-1200 is
no longer made, and very hard to fine.

$500 for the set of three

Kenwood TM-D710A Transceiver
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
This is Kenwood's new APRS dual band rig. It features dual band receive/TX,
with
complete APRS functionality. This is the perfect rig for rovers as it displays
your exact grid square location in real time. No more
guessing as to where you're at.

Unit comes complete with GPS antenna, and call cabling. Original box,
instructions, etc. Latest firmware is already installed too.
It's literally "plug and play". Never used mobile other than a brief test. I
was waiting to install it in the new truck.

Extension kit is included. Original box, instructions, etc.

$500


MFJ 269-PRO Antenna Analyzer (HF, VHF, UHF)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------

Perfect for tuning those Yagis, this unit has never been used outdoors.
Includes leather carrying case, slug kit,
rechargeable batteries, and AC power supply. Covers HF, 6 Meters, 2 Meters,
and 432mhz. Also can be used for
public service frequencies, etc. since it's the "Pro" unit. Includes "no tip"
stand which makes it much easier to work with than
other MFJ tuners.

Instructions included.

$250

Please reply directly to: Les Rayburn, N1LF (n1lf@xxxx.xxxx

Thanks, & 73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
EM63nf
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114






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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:16:50 -0400
From: "Mike Ryan" <mryan301@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]   Re: Ham Radio Deluxe Queries
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <36228FF4B35247A1A250DF65B13F62AA@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

With respect, I can think of one good reason. Education. For instance, I'd
like to know what works well for folks regardles of what program they use and
some dialog about the up or down of a tool is valuable information to me. Now
maybe if the disucussion was tweaks to HRD, FAQs, or wish lists, then maybe
better suited for a more focused forum.

And I also learned by the replies that there was a Yahooo group! I knew about
the BBS/forum on the HRD website but observe it to be pretty quiet. I will
check out the Yahoo group.

Someone also mentioned a listserv. Can anyone provide a pointer to that? I can
find "HRD" in Google easily but many hits arent about Ham radio.

Mike WB1AAT

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 8:03 AM
To: amsat
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio Deluxe Queries

Wouldn't the numerous HRD queries here be better sent to the (preferably)
HRD Forum or HRD Yahoo e-group?



--
Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.  tel +1 937
825 5032
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx       www
http://www.ngunn.net
Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs QRP
Club International #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK, MKARS,  ALC,
GCARES, XWARN


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:54:28 -0300
From: Bruce Robertson <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Egg Beater
To: Steve Bluemel <stevebluemel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
	<49657a760904111154r4389bc68j3d261fe7186ce849@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Steve (and the list):

I can add another data-point for you, as I'm playing with minimal
antennas while rebuilding my station. My latest toy is a simple
three-wire groundplane for 70cm made of #10 electrical wire soldered
directly to a male N-connector. This connector is plugged into one
side of an all-weather switching low-noise preamp, and both are in the
hay-loft of a barn, up about 12' from ground, but with wood, roofing
and hay all around. The preamp is connected to the radio by 100' of
LMR-400 coax.

This has been in place for only 24h or so, but I've listened to a 33
deg. pass of FO-29 and some cubesats with quite decent success. The
telemetry of FO-29 (100mw) was audible always; after about 15 deg. I
could comfortably hear a SSB conversation on that bird. SO-50 was not
quite as successful, but I have a TS-2000 so it's sometimes hard to
get a bead on that bird.

Of course, without the preamp, nada, nothing.

Sometimes I worry that we purchase complex and expensive antennas with
preamps and never fully explore the potential of preamps with very
simple, and inexpensive, antennas. This isn't to say that I'm leaving
this g/p as my only antenna, but it provides a simple, cheap and
effective first step and helpful baseline from which to compare
improvements.

I also think it might be a good way to get people into this branch of
the ham hobby. And in  that spirit, about a year ago, I posted a video
of a FT-817 receiving a cubesat beacon with a directly-attached 1/4w
groundplane:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1251407580465862002

73, Bruce
VE9QRP

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Alan P. Biddle <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Steve,
>
>>>Once i know i can hear, i will build the uplink
>
> Would that everybody else followed your wise approach! ?;)
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>



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