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Today's Topics:

1.    Less than lightening Results (John W Lee)
2. Re: Arrow Antenna (John W Lee)
3. Re: Less than lightening Results (David - KG4ZLB)
4. Re: Less than lightening Results (Gould Smith)
5. Re: Less than lightening Results (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
6. Re: Less than lightening Results (D. Craig Fox)
7. Re: Less than lightening Results (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: Less than lightening Results (Jim Leder)
9. Re: Less than lightening Results (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
10. Re: Less than lightening Results (Andrew Glasbrenner)
11.  For Sale IC 910H NIB (John Henderson N4NAB)
12. Re: Less than lightening Results (Greg D.)
13. Re: Less than lightening Results (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
14. Re: Less than lightening Results (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:11:54 -0800
From: John W Lee <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]    Less than lightening Results
To: nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Jerry,
I hate to say it but the CW activity is VERY slow on the
birds these days.   I don't like SSB and there's so little CW
activity that I've basically given up on AO7 and VO52.

In the past I was 100% CW for about 20 years and there
was always somebody to work.

Ao-7 only works in sunlight.  And t he downlink is not real loud,
but it does work.

73
John K6YK


On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:21:39 -0600 Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
writes:
> I'm a lil dispointed tonite. Tried 2 passes on AO7 and failed, in
> fact heard
> nothing. Tried 2 passes on VO52 both times had my signal nice and
> loud,
> called CQ till I turned blue.  Doesn't any one do CW on that bird??
> Heard
> several loud stations.
>
> Using a IC-706 for downlink into a 9 el M2 yagi, then on uplink a
> FT-875D at
> 20 watts into a small 5 el 435 yagi.  Which is probably  my problem,
> indoors
> right next to me.
>
> Would a set of eggbeaters at 10ft be better? Got to do something for
> antenna
> cause I'm sure thats whats wrong. Its easier for me to build than
> buy.
>
> So where's the CW???
>
> --
> Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota
> www.freewebs.com/nr5a
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Minimalist_QRP_Transceivers/
> http://www.cakewalkblogs.com/nr5asminimalradio/index.aspx
> http://nr5abeaconblog.blogspot.com/
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:09:21 -0800
From: John W Lee <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow Antenna
To: kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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I started out doing the portable thing with a home-made
arrow type antenna and a dual bander (Heathkit HW-24,
10 watt radio ) and  a  gell-cell battery.  It works  great !
Also have done a lot with the HT and Arrow and it's OK too.
5000 +  QSO's mobile and portable can't be wrong !

I was using a  6 element Cush Craft beam with 3-2 meter
elements attached in the same style as the Arrow.

The Arrow works better!  I think the Cush Craft 6 element wasn't
so hot.

And I agree, if one were to use it in some sort of permanent
arrangement, put lock washers on the elements or you'll find them on
the ground.

73,
John K6YK


On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:42:28 -0800 Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
writes:
> I had the only the 2m elements of my Arrow attached to the crossboom
>
> of my B5400 az-el system and it worked fine.  I suspect that if you
>
> set it at a fixed elevation angle and rotate in azimuth it will work
>
> pretty good for satellites.  The 6-element 432 antenna will be a bit
>
> narrower in beam, but I suspect still would work well.
>
> One issue with permanent mounting is the elements get vibrated loose
>
> by the wind and fall off.  If you can find some star locking washers
>
> to slip on the threaded element ends that may help.  I have also
> used
> my Arrow for VHF/UHF roving with my truck.  Also, you are stuck with
>
> one polarity and may experience some fading as the satellite
> polarity shifts.
>
> The Arrow should work with any radio.  If it is a dual-band radio
> with one antenna connection you must use the diplexer (limited to
> low-power).  If there are separate antenna  connectors on the radio,
>
> run two separate coax lines to the 2m and 70cm antenna feeds without
>
> using the diplexer.
>
> I took my FT-817 and the 2m 3-element Arrow antenna to a 3300-foot
> mountain top and worked 206 miles tropo on QRP 2m SSB.  Nice travel
>
> antenna, too!
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>
> At 08:26 PM 4/6/2009, Michael J Finn wrote:
> >Would the Arrow antenna work well for a fix rotor antenna?  Or is
> it just
> >for HT's.   Those that use the Arrow antenna, how do you like it,
> and how
> >well does it really work?  What HT's are used for it.
> >
> >Thanks
> >mike
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:36:06 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: John W Lee <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx
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I am a newcomer to Mode A on AO-7 and for what its worth, I haven't
heard anything other than CW signals on the Mode A passes.

Both VO-52 and FO-29 has its share of CW proponents, I usually hear them
in the first half of the passband - not sure if that's a requirement or
a gentleman's agreement but there is plenty of CW activity when the
birds are in the footprint of me down here in EL96.

Maybe I am a little confused about what constitutes AO-7 being "in
sunlight" but I work it at 10.00 to 11.00pm in darkness and it works fine!

--
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com



John W Lee wrote:
>  Jerry,
> I hate to say it but the CW activity is VERY slow on the
> birds these days.   I don't like SSB and there's so little CW
> activity that I've basically given up on AO7 and VO52.
>
> In the past I was 100% CW for about 20 years and there
> was always somebody to work.
>
> Ao-7 only works in sunlight.  And t he downlink is not real loud,
> but it does work.
>
> 73
> John K6YK
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:21:39 -0600 Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
> writes:
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:19:58 -0400
From: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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David,

Most tracking programs will tell you whether the satellite is in the sun or
not. SatPC32 has text on the top left that tells you.  You can do a preview
and go ahead to the schedule pass times and read it out.  Many text displays
of satellite passes from the tracking programs have a symbol or text to tell
you whether the satellite is in sun or not.  Some will just tell you whether
the satellite is in eclipse, if no eclipse designation then it is in the
sun.
Sometimes it is not obvious, so use the help file associated with the
tracking program.

73,
Gould, WA4SXM
----- Original Message -----
From: "David - KG4ZLB" <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "John W Lee" <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:36 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results


>I am a newcomer to Mode A on AO-7 and for what its worth, I haven't
> heard anything other than CW signals on the Mode A passes.
>
> Both VO-52 and FO-29 has its share of CW proponents, I usually hear them
> in the first half of the passband - not sure if that's a requirement or
> a gentleman's agreement but there is plenty of CW activity when the
> birds are in the footprint of me down here in EL96.
>
> Maybe I am a little confused about what constitutes AO-7 being "in
> sunlight" but I work it at 10.00 to 11.00pm in darkness and it works fine!
>
> --
> David
> KG4ZLB
> www.kg4zlb.com
>
>
>
> John W Lee wrote:
>>  Jerry,
>> I hate to say it but the CW activity is VERY slow on the
>> birds these days.   I don't like SSB and there's so little CW
>> activity that I've basically given up on AO7 and VO52.
>>
>> In the past I was 100% CW for about 20 years and there
>> was always somebody to work.
>>
>> Ao-7 only works in sunlight.  And t he downlink is not real loud,
>> but it does work.
>>
>> 73
>> John K6YK
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:21:39 -0600 Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
>> writes:
>>
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:42:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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I have operated AO-7 when there appears just a sliver of sun exposure, with
very good downlinks.  This is one hardy satellite and we should nurse it along
as best we can.  Right now it is our HEO.
73 Bob W7LRD

----- Original Message -----

From: Greg D.

To: nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx

Sent: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:11:47 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results





What time were you doing this?  AO-07 only works when it's in the sun.  Also,
it can be in one of two modes, and it looks from
http://oscar.dcarr.org/index.php that it's just about time to be finishing up
the mode B cycle, and switching back to mode A.



Greg  KO6TH





> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:21:39 -0600

> From: nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx

> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx

> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Less than lightening Results

>

> I'm a lil dispointed tonite. Tried 2 passes on AO7 and failed, in fact heard

> nothing. Tried 2 passes on VO52 both times had my signal nice and loud,

> called CQ till I turned blue.  Doesn't any one do CW on that bird?? Heard

> several loud stations.

>

> Using a IC-706 for downlink into a 9 el M2 yagi, then on uplink a FT-875D at

> 20 watts into a small 5 el 435 yagi.  Which is probably  my problem, indoors

> right next to me.

>

> Would a set of eggbeaters at 10ft be better? Got to do something for antenna

> cause I'm sure thats whats wrong. Its easier for me to build than buy.

>

> So where's the CW???

>

> --

> Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota

> www.freewebs.com/nr5a

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Minimalist_QRP_Transceivers/

> http://www.cakewalkblogs.com/nr5asminimalradio/index.aspx

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:57:16 -0700
From: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Jerry, I am on AO7 often and work mostly AO7, FO29 and VO52, all on SSB. In
fact, just saw Bob, W7LRD, posting below.  He is one of my regulars on AO7. I
only occasionally hear CW and in fact have had a few CW stations call me on
SSB and we talk.  Your 9 el and 5 el should be fine.  Pass on the 'beaters for
the SSB birds.
SatPC32 shows you the edge of the sun and it is obvious whether or not it is
hitting AO7.  As Bob notes, even a little sun on AO7 is sufficient.  In fact,
its signals lately have been booming by AO7's standards. May just be the
effects of the sun being higher.

Jerry, I work into 5 land regularly on AO7, FO29 and VO52 so feel free to call
me on CW!  CW signals are definitely easy copy.

regards,

Craig
N6RSX




-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxx
Behalf Of Gould Smith
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:20 PM
To: kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results


David,

Most tracking programs will tell you whether the satellite is in the sun or
not. SatPC32 has text on the top left that tells you.  You can do a preview
and go ahead to the schedule pass times and read it out.  Many text displays
of satellite passes from the tracking programs have a symbol or text to tell
you whether the satellite is in sun or not.  Some will just tell you whether
the satellite is in eclipse, if no eclipse designation then it is in the
sun.
Sometimes it is not obvious, so use the help file associated with the
tracking program.

73,
Gould, WA4SXM
----- Original Message -----
From: "David - KG4ZLB" <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "John W Lee" <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:36 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results


>I am a newcomer to Mode A on AO-7 and for what its worth, I haven't
> heard anything other than CW signals on the Mode A passes.
>
> Both VO-52 and FO-29 has its share of CW proponents, I usually hear them
> in the first half of the passband - not sure if that's a requirement or
> a gentleman's agreement but there is plenty of CW activity when the
> birds are in the footprint of me down here in EL96.
>
> Maybe I am a little confused about what constitutes AO-7 being "in
> sunlight" but I work it at 10.00 to 11.00pm in darkness and it works fine!
>
> --
> David
> KG4ZLB
> www.kg4zlb.com
>
>
>
> John W Lee wrote:
>>  Jerry,
>> I hate to say it but the CW activity is VERY slow on the
>> birds these days.   I don't like SSB and there's so little CW
>> activity that I've basically given up on AO7 and VO52.
>>
>> In the past I was 100% CW for about 20 years and there
>> was always somebody to work.
>>
>> Ao-7 only works in sunlight.  And t he downlink is not real loud,
>> but it does work.
>>
>> 73
>> John K6YK
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:21:39 -0600 Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
>> writes:
>>
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:17:26 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>, "John W Lee" <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx
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> Maybe I am a little confused about what constitutes AO-7 being "in
> sunlight" but I work it at 10.00 to 11.00pm in darkness and it works fine!

Since AO-7's batteries have long ago given up the ghost, the electronics
only run when there is sufficient power developed by the panels. If the
footprint of the satellite touches the illuminated area on the ground, the
satellite is illuminated also. Right now for both AO-7 and AO-51, that
illumination is continuous, but very soon both will return to an eclipse
every orbit. For AO-7, this means a reset of the 24 hour timer every orbit,
and Mode B seems to be the most likely mode upon power up and
reillumination. Until then the timer is more or less changing modes every 24
hours between A and B.

The pattern is easy to see on http://oscar.dcarr.org/ .

Hope this helps clear things up some for the newer folks.

73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Ops



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:25:47 -0400
From: "Jim Leder" <k8cxm@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I've operated CW almost exclusively on VO52,FO29 and AO7, very little on
SSB. I have been very discouraged at the lack of interest on these birds to
the point that I've just about given up. Seems I call CQ, and listen to
myself from AOS to LOS with no answers. At the same time, I do hear a fair
amount of SSB activity.  I do CW about 95% of the time on the HF bands and
much prefer it over SSB. The lack of CW activity on the transponder birds is
very evident. Guess it's another sign of the times with ham radio.

Jim Bob Buckeye
AKA
**** Jim Leder****
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----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results


> Jerry, I am on AO7 often and work mostly AO7, FO29 and VO52, all on SSB.
> In fact, just saw Bob, W7LRD, posting below.  He is one of my regulars on
> AO7. I only occasionally hear CW and in fact have had a few CW stations
> call me on SSB and we talk.  Your 9 el and 5 el should be fine.  Pass on
> the 'beaters for the SSB birds.
> SatPC32 shows you the edge of the sun and it is obvious whether or not it
> is hitting AO7.  As Bob notes, even a little sun on AO7 is sufficient.  In
> fact, its signals lately have been booming by AO7's standards. May just be
> the effects of the sun being higher.
>
> Jerry, I work into 5 land regularly on AO7, FO29 and VO52 so feel free to
> call me on CW!  CW signals are definitely easy copy.
>
> regards,
>
> Craig
> N6RSX
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxx
> Behalf Of Gould Smith
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:20 PM
> To: kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
>
>
> David,
>
> Most tracking programs will tell you whether the satellite is in the sun
> or
> not. SatPC32 has text on the top left that tells you.  You can do a
> preview
> and go ahead to the schedule pass times and read it out.  Many text
> displays
> of satellite passes from the tracking programs have a symbol or text to
> tell
> you whether the satellite is in sun or not.  Some will just tell you
> whether
> the satellite is in eclipse, if no eclipse designation then it is in the
> sun.
> Sometimes it is not obvious, so use the help file associated with the
> tracking program.
>
> 73,
> Gould, WA4SXM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David - KG4ZLB" <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "John W Lee" <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
> Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:36 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
>
>
>>I am a newcomer to Mode A on AO-7 and for what its worth, I haven't
>> heard anything other than CW signals on the Mode A passes.
>>
>> Both VO-52 and FO-29 has its share of CW proponents, I usually hear them
>> in the first half of the passband - not sure if that's a requirement or
>> a gentleman's agreement but there is plenty of CW activity when the
>> birds are in the footprint of me down here in EL96.
>>
>> Maybe I am a little confused about what constitutes AO-7 being "in
>> sunlight" but I work it at 10.00 to 11.00pm in darkness and it works
>> fine!
>>
>> --
>> David
>> KG4ZLB
>> www.kg4zlb.com
>>
>>
>>
>> John W Lee wrote:
>>>  Jerry,
>>> I hate to say it but the CW activity is VERY slow on the
>>> birds these days.   I don't like SSB and there's so little CW
>>> activity that I've basically given up on AO7 and VO52.
>>>
>>> In the past I was 100% CW for about 20 years and there
>>> was always somebody to work.
>>>
>>> Ao-7 only works in sunlight.  And t he downlink is not real loud,
>>> but it does work.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> John K6YK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:21:39 -0600 Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:27:12 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: John W Lee <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
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On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 11:11 -0800, John W Lee wrote:

> Ao-7 only works in sunlight.  And t he downlink is not real loud,
> but it does work.

I try to listen to at least one pass a week, just out of respect.

I mean, AO-7 is nearly as old as I am.

Gordon MM3YEQ (is feeling his age a bit today)



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:36:24 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: "Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ" <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>,
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I LOL'ed. AO-7 was launched one month or so after I was born, but I only
took 9 months to build, so it's sort of a toss up!

73, Drew KO4MA

>
> I try to listen to at least one pass a week, just out of respect.
>
> I mean, AO-7 is nearly as old as I am.
>
> Gordon MM3YEQ (is feeling his age a bit today)



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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:37:51 -0400
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:01:53 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>,
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Yeah, this is one grand old bird (the satellite, I mean).  If you look at the
planetary statistics, the median age of the human population is about 26.8 as
of 2000, and growing slowly.  That makes AO-07, at age 35, significantly older
than more than half of the people on Earth.

Greg  KO6TH  (one of the few older than AO-07...)


> From: glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> To: gordonjcp@xxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:36:24 -0400
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
>
> I LOL'ed. AO-7 was launched one month or so after I was born, but I only
> took 9 months to build, so it's sort of a toss up!
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> >
> > I try to listen to at least one pass a week, just out of respect.
> >
> > I mean, AO-7 is nearly as old as I am.
> >
> > Gordon MM3YEQ (is feeling his age a bit today)
>
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:10:20 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
	<gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Heck Greg ... I'm plenty older than AO-7, but I feel like a little kid every
time I hear my CW signal coming back from her. Working CW using a straight key
through AO-7 is about the coolest mix of the old and new I can think of.?


Now, if somebody in Alaska will just hear me calling "CQ AK" some evening on
Mode B....


73 to all,

Tim - N3TL
? -------------- Original message from "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>: ---
-----------


> Yeah, this is one grand old bird (the satellite, I mean).  If you look at
the planetary statistics, the median age of the human population is about 26.8
as of 2000, and growing slowly.  That makes AO-07, at age 35, significantly
older than
> more than half of the people on Earth.
>
> Greg  KO6TH  (one of the few older than AO-07...)
>
>
> > From: glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> > To: gordonjcp@xxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:36:24 -0400
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
> >
> > I LOL'ed. AO-7 was launched one month or so after I was born, but I only
> > took 9 months to build, so it's sort of a toss up!
> >
> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> >
> > >
> > > I try to listen to at least one pass a week, just out of respect.
> > >
> > > I mean, AO-7 is nearly as old as I am.
> > >
> > > Gordon MM3YEQ (is feeling his age a bit today)
> >
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:18:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results
To: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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Tim-Look for Joe-AL1F.  He gets on AO7 once in awhile, I have talked to him
several times.
73 Bob W7LRD

----- Original Message -----

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To: Greg D. , glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx gordonjcp@xxxx.xxxx amsat-
bb@xxxxx.xxx

Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:10:20 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results







Heck Greg ... I'm plenty older than AO-7, but I feel like a little kid every
time I hear my CW signal coming back from her. Working CW using a straight key
through AO-7 is about the coolest mix of the old and new I can think of.





Now, if somebody in Alaska will just hear me calling "CQ AK" some evening on
Mode B....





73 to all,



Tim - N3TL

-------------- Original message from "Greg D." : --------------





> Yeah, this is one grand old bird (the satellite, I mean).  If you look at
the planetary statistics, the median age of the human population is about 26.8
as of 2000, and growing slowly.  That makes AO-07, at age 35, significantly
older than

> more than half of the people on Earth.

>

> Greg  KO6TH  (one of the few older than AO-07...)

>

>

> > From: glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx

> > To: gordonjcp@xxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx

> > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:36:24 -0400

> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Less than lightening Results

> >

> > I LOL'ed. AO-7 was launched one month or so after I was born, but I only

> > took 9 months to build, so it's sort of a toss up!

> >

> > 73, Drew KO4MA

> >

> > >

> > > I try to listen to at least one pass a week, just out of respect.

> > >

> > > I mean, AO-7 is nearly as old as I am.

> > >

> > > Gordon MM3YEQ (is feeling his age a bit today)

> >

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