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Today's Topics:

1. Re: down converter (Alan Sieg WB5RMG)
2.  QSL Cards (Jim Heck)
3. Re: QSL Cards (GW1FKY@xxx.xxxx
4. Re: QSL Cards (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
5. Re: QSL Cards (books47925@xxxxxxx.xxxx
6.  AO-51 SSTV (Amateur Radio Station WA2S)
7. Re: AO-51 SSTV (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: AO-51 SSTV (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
9. Re: QSL Cards (Rafael Valdez G. )
10. Re: AO-51 SSTV (Amateur Radio Station WA2S)
11. Re: AO-51 SSTV (Simon (HB9DRV))
12. Re: AO-51 SSTV (Mike Rupprecht)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:18:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Alan Sieg WB5RMG" <wb5rmg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: down converter
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1717.198.119.224.78.1237825123.squirrel@xxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Tim - VK2XTT said :
>  . . . you need to find a CalAmp 130415 MMDS down converter to modify.
> With the right crystal they produce an IF at 435 Mhz.
>
> I wrote an article on modification back in 2005 for the local club mag
> that I'll send you off list detailing the conversion.

Hi Tim,
A friend gave me a 130415, which has had some modification...
I'd sure like a copy of your mod article for comparison.
>From what I've found so far, they had already changed the crystal,
disconnected the comb filter, and changed out the voltage regulator...
perhaps more that I didn't recognize.

Your article may provide me with some new perspective.
Please send the article or a link to <mycallsign>at<AMSAT>dot<ORG>

Thanks in advance.   73 for now   /;^)
(pardon the bandwidth, I encountered a failure on Tim's QRZ email address)
--
<- Licensed in 1976, WB5RMG = Alan Sieg * AMSAT#20554 ->
<- http://www.somenet.net * http://wb5rmg.somenet.net ->
<- http://www.linkedin.com/in/alansieg * My 'Day Job' ->



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:20:30 -0000
From: "Jim Heck" <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  QSL Cards
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <OLECJJCJBEHDCCHICKFFGEJFFMAA.jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="windows-1250"

Hi Folks,

I have only recently re-started to operate via the sats after a gap of about
4
years (my last qso was via AO-40!). The buzz is returning!!!

I would be interested to know whether ham operators these days send old
fashioned
cards via the bureau/direct, or whether EQSL cards are now used more
extensively.

If the later, which service is considered the best/most reliable/most
trustworthy/etc/ I have come across www.eqsl.cc which seems quite reasonable,
and I
notice that there are some cards waiting for me !!! (I'll be signing up soon,
and
I'll be interested to see how old they are, etc !!!

73s Jim G3WGM



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:05:25 EDT
From: GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: QSL Cards
To: jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <cca.4a0429a4.36f91b55@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Hi Jim,
My response is that perhaps things have not changed much in 4 years, with
opinions still currently being debated in respect of both the HF operations
and
working satellites .
As you are aware the RSGB handling is now under a contract so it  is little
early to say what the impact will
turn out  to be in terms of time and cards still getting to  destinations
The cost of posting is of course now a key factor if you intend going  direct
or via a QSL manager, but if you want to ensure that you have a quick
response,this is still the way to do it.   However my own opinion  and
of others is that even when you include cash or payment it is still  not 100%
At one time I used to send out cards for every contact that I made, but of
course that was mainly on HF, it did take time and money and like our  club
special events we do only get about a 25% returns
Printing cost as you have experienced have risen as well as  postage adding
to the difficult times and exchange rates
Main factors are by those that enter contests, go  for IOTA  or generally
want a collection or first card!
The problem is that in respect of contests and awards the "E - qsl "  method
is not accepted I regret to say.  Usually also if you do use  this method  (
and I would say many do ) you may be asked to send off
details of your licence etc so that it is registered to count for certain
awards.

I have found recently that I received cards dating back for contacts  over 4
years ago , Others like myself
have had complaints from hams asking why I have not sent out a  card   - Many
appear to have gone astray
and may be due mail / delivery collection / lost items / or other  reasons ?

If you are speaking in terms of satellite contacts only , then I think that
my experience is that a QSL direct
has always been a very positive way of doing things and with such a low
number contacts the expense has
not been a bother.
I do see however various bones of contention on the BBS and that might be
because of the bad times with
finance and security.   Many have been asking why the electronic  method
cannot count for awards and perhaps you might like to look this up via  the
ARRL
web site.
There was even comments about "Verification of your location " using a GPS
and photo showing the reading.
But that was in the USA with its large area and grid squares that are being
chased.

I hope my input will help - And by the way I am just as guilty about
response times whether it is eqsl, snail mail or the bureau.  Personal
problems have
contributed to this but in general I just don't know where time  has gone.
Cheers
Ken de GW1FKY.

PS -  With respect to your mail and support for the rally, I  would very much
like to join you and help out but
I think that the distance  with a return trip maybe just a bit to
much for me, but I will consider it  nearer
the  time.





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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:09:36 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: QSL Cards
To: "Jim Heck" <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<032320091709.23784.49C7C2500009BF3400005CE822193100029B0A02D2089B9A019C
04040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain

Hey Jim,

Welcome back! I've been licensed since 1983, but was totally off the air from
1992 through mid-1997, and have only been working satellites about 10 months.
It's the most fun I've ever had in ham radio!

I picked up where I left off with QSLs and continue to use "hard cards" to
confirm my contacts. I also have received many eQSL requests, and honor them -
but if I need to confirm a grid or state for an award, I send my card with a
SASE and request a card from the other station. Not everyone has complied, but
many more have than haven't. I thank all of them for that.

I haven't signed up for Log of the World yet, but see that some operators also
are using it. ARRL does recognize LoTW electronic "QSLs" for its awards, but I
don't believe it recognizes those from the eQSL site. I'm confident someone
will correct me if that's inaccurate.

73,

Tim - N3TL
Athens, Ga., USA - EM84ha
-------------- Original message from "Jim Heck" <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>: -----
---------


> Hi Folks,
>
> I have only recently re-started to operate via the sats after a gap of about
4
> years (my last qso was via AO-40!). The buzz is returning!!!
> I would be interested to know whether ham operators these days send old
> fashioned cards via the bureau/direct, or whether EQSL cards are now used
more
> extensively.
>
> If the later, which service is considered the best/most reliable/most
trustworthy/etc/ I have come across www.eqsl.cc which seems quite reasonable,
> and I notice that there are some cards waiting for me !!! (I'll be signing
up soon,
> and
> I'll be interested to see how old they are, etc !!!
>
> 73s Jim G3WGM
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:42:49 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: books47925@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: QSL Cards
To: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx Jim Heck <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>,
	amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
	<4492960.1237830169664.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx
x>
	
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello All,
Tim you are correct, in that ARRL does not accept EQSL
for awards. I'm in the LOTW system, but I still prefer a "real card".
I enjoy seeing the envelope in the mail box from the buro,
or the QSL cards sent direct! The convenience of LOTW is very
nice, but I like to show off the cards received too! Most are
in a photo album on the coffee table. When visitors are over,
they really get a kick out of seeing the cards too.

73,
Steve KB8VAO

-----Original Message-----
>From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
>Sent: Mar 23, 2009 10:09 AM
>To: Jim Heck <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: QSL Cards
>
>Hey Jim,
>
>Welcome back! I've been licensed since 1983, but was totally off the air from
1992 through mid-1997, and have only been working satellites about 10 months.
It's the most fun I've ever had in ham radio!
>
>I picked up where I left off with QSLs and continue to use "hard cards" to
confirm my contacts. I also have received many eQSL requests, and honor them -
but if I need to confirm a grid or state for an award, I send my card with a
SASE and request a card from the other station. Not everyone has complied, but
many more have than haven't. I thank all of them for that.
>
>I haven't signed up for Log of the World yet, but see that some operators
also are using it. ARRL does recognize LoTW electronic "QSLs" for its awards,
but I don't believe it recognizes those from the eQSL site. I'm confident
someone will correct me if that's inaccurate.
>
>73,
>
>Tim - N3TL
>Athens, Ga., USA - EM84ha
>-------------- Original message from "Jim Heck" <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>: ----
----------
>
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I have only recently re-started to operate via the sats after a gap of
about 4
>> years (my last qso was via AO-40!). The buzz is returning!!!
>> I would be interested to know whether ham operators these days send old
>> fashioned cards via the bureau/direct, or whether EQSL cards are now used
more
>> extensively.
>>
>> If the later, which service is considered the best/most reliable/most
trustworthy/etc/ I have come across www.eqsl.cc which seems quite reasonable,
>> and I notice that there are some cards waiting for me !!! (I'll be signing
up soon,
>> and
>> I'll be interested to see how old they are, etc !!!
>>
>> 73s Jim G3WGM
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:59:30 -0400
From: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S" <WA2S@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 SSTV
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <721099B4334E47BC9383F6B0CF6AB980@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Any recommended SSTV mode by the control group i.e. Robot 36 ?







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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:49:25 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 SSTV
To: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S" <WA2S@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E465C3DE84F34FCC8A09FAFF8B7E1403@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Not this time, as long as it isn't a really long transmission. It'd be good
if users would announce what mode at the beginning of the transmission
though. Not all the programs automatically recognize the different modes.

73, Drew KO4MA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S" <WA2S@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 SSTV


> Any recommended SSTV mode by the control group i.e. Robot 36 ?
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:52:09 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 SSTV
To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	"Amateur Radio
	Station WA2S" <WA2S@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<032320091752.6257.49C7CC48000DF0EF0000187122193100029B0A02D2089B9A019C0
4040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain

Robot 36 here. It's quick and seems to do a good job for me.
-------------- Original message from "Andrew Glasbrenner"
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: --------------


> Not this time, as long as it isn't a really long transmission. It'd be good
> if users would announce what mode at the beginning of the transmission
> though. Not all the programs automatically recognize the different modes.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:59 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 SSTV
>
>
> > Any recommended SSTV mode by the control group i.e. Robot 36 ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:02:21 +0000
From: "Rafael Valdez G. " <rafavaldez@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: QSL Cards
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx " <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY111-DS72366DECAD583BC1493DADB920@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"


Hello Jim,

For VUCC purposes and AMSAT awards you will need paper QSL but for WAS and
DXCC LoTW will do it, the bad news is that is not widely used by satellite
community, on the other hand eQSL has its own awards.

But anyway from my side I enjoy QSLing as part of the hobby in any way or
via.....

73's and good luck

XE2RV

Ps. Qsl rate in satellite community is quite high...in NA





------Original Message------
From: Jim Heck
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Mar 23, 2009 9:20 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb]  QSL Cards

Hi Folks,

? I have only recently re-started to operate via the sats after a gap of
about 4
years (my last qso was via AO-40!). The buzz is returning!!!

? I would be interested to know whether ham operators these days send old
fashioned
cards via the bureau/direct, or whether EQSL cards are now used more
extensively.

? If the later, which service is considered the best/most reliable/most
trustworthy/etc/ I have come across www.eqsl.cc <http://www.eqsl.cc>  which
seems quite reasonable, and I
notice that there are some cards waiting for me !!! (I'll be signing up soon,
and
I'll be interested to see how old they are, etc !!!

73s Jim G3WGM

_______________________________________________
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Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>





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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:03:00 -0400
From: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S" <WA2S@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 SSTV
To: <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'Andrew Glasbrenner'"
	<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, 	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1507BEF1043040DF895F1495CF759EDF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Thanks. I have a 74 deg elev pass at 6:55EDT and will try to get an image up
during that.  Tim, will be looking for yours.



73

Marc,  WA2S



_____

From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:52 PM
To: Andrew Glasbrenner; Amateur Radio Station WA2S; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 SSTV



Robot 36 here. It's quick and seems to do a good job for me.

-------------- Original message from "Andrew Glasbrenner"
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: --------------


> Not this time, as long as it isn't a really long transmission. It'd be
good
> if users would announce what mode at the beginning of the transmission
> though. Not all the programs automatically recognize the different modes.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:59 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 SSTV
>
>
> > Any recommended SSTV mode by the control group i.e. Robot 36 ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.

> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!

> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:08:46 +0100
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 SSTV
To: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S" <WA2S@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <02C5E00D34724FBBA399D0A15D98B661@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

I agree with Robot 36 - ~ 40 seconds per picture, MMSSTV detects Robot 36
using VIS codes and also sync pulses.

Martin 2 / Scottie 2 would also be OK - ~ 60 seconds a picture.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S" <WA2S@xxxxxxx.xxx>


> Any recommended SSTV mode by the control group i.e. Robot 36 ?



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:56:57 +0100
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 SSTV
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <005a01c9abe9$28424090$78c6c1b0$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

... grabbed 2 images from DF9EY this afternoon pass (used Robot36). See here
http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
Sent also 2 images at 16:30 UTC but got no response until yet.

73, Mike

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Im
Auftrag von Andrew Glasbrenner
Gesendet: Montag, 23. M?rz 2009 18:49
An: Amateur Radio Station WA2S; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 SSTV

Not this time, as long as it isn't a really long transmission. It'd be good
if users would announce what mode at the beginning of the transmission
though. Not all the programs automatically recognize the different modes.

73, Drew KO4MA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amateur Radio Station WA2S" <WA2S@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 SSTV


> Any recommended SSTV mode by the control group i.e. Robot 36 ?
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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