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Today's Topics:
1. Re: old satellites (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
2. Re: grid squares (Jeff Yanko)
3. Re: The Goce Satellite Ion Engine (Tim Tuck)
4. Re: The Goce Satellite Ion Engine (Alexandru Csete)
5. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Dave Sloan)
6. Re: "Mobile" Operation (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
7. Defective W32A 4 Sale (Sebastian)
8. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
9. Re: "Mobile" Operation (David - KG4ZLB)
10. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
11. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Kelly Martin)
12. ISS and Shuttle visible over Europe today (Simone T)
13. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
14. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Ernie)
15. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
16. Re: old satellites (Daniel Schultz)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:00:25 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
To: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
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If they can afford to carry a kilo of amateur radio gear then they could have
carried an extra kilo of fuel and extended
the useful lifetime.
You're not onto a winner there.
w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> clever thinking Dave. There some "experts" on this BB that know the answer
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: David - KG4ZLB
>
> To: Hans Johnson
>
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>
> Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:28:00 +0000 (UTC)
>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
>
>
>
> I was reading about the newly launched GOCE satellite and the fact that
>
> its mission will end when its 40kg tank empties - that of course may be
>
> a long time coming but as it has an S band transmitter, could this not
>
> be tweaked for us once the mission is complete?
>
>
>
> And thinking further, for these satellites could amateur radio gear be
>
> carried so that it could be activated once the main mission is complete?
>
> Doing this over a number of years would provide a ready made supply of
>
> new birds over a period of time.
>
>
>
> I suppose logistics and cost will be the factor but its an idea and
>
> would give us at least something!
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:24:15 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: grid squares
To: "Michael Heim" <kd0ar@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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Should be needed by quite a few. I'm originally from FN00 and it wasn't too
active on the birds.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Heim" <kd0ar@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:51 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] grid squares
>
> I'm not sure how active FN01 is regarding satellite work, but I will be
> spending a week in that grid next week for work. If anyone needs FN01, I
> can be very easily convinced to take an HT and antenna with me. I do not
> believe I have the grid worked myself, so it might be rare on the birds.
>
> Let me know if you need it, and I'll do something to get on from Oil City,
> PA.
>
> Michael Heim
> ARS KD0AR
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:53:43 +1100
From: "Tim Tuck" <timt@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Goce Satellite Ion Engine
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Bill Ress wrote:
> Following up on David's (G0MRF) post about the ion engine, the ESA Goce
> satellite mission, due to launch next week, uses a nifty ion engine
> which you can see at:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7935621.stm
>
As the article says, "this is a beautiful satellite" !
I notice that it has an S band downlink, It would be interesting to see
if we could hear it.
The ion engine is just way cool.
regards
Tim
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:27:51 +0100
From: Alexandru Csete <alexc@xxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Goce Satellite Ion Engine
To: "Tim Tuck" <timt@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:53:43 +1100
"Tim Tuck" <timt@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Bill Ress wrote:
> > Following up on David's (G0MRF) post about the ion engine, the ESA
> > Goce satellite mission, due to launch next week, uses a nifty ion
> > engine which you can see at:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7935621.stm
> >
> As the article says, "this is a beautiful satellite" !
>
> I notice that it has an S band downlink, It would be interesting to
> see if we could hear it.
It should be possible if you can receive 2.2-2.3 GHz (I don't know the
exact frequency). It is at a very low altitude ~280km so it is even
closer than the ISS.
By the way, those who were watching the live video stream from ESOC
could hear some beep-beeps at first AOS 90 min after launch.
73
Alex OZ9AEC
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:38:14 -0600
From: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Lets see, guess there are three major ways to operate:
1. Stationary: Where you are using equipment and antenna systems that are
fixed and could not be able to go mobile or portable very easy.
2. Mobile: When the equipment is mounted and operated while installed in a
piece of equipment that is designed to be mobile and except for short stops
(red light) is moving. This could be foot mobile, bike mobile, ATV mobile,
horse back mobile, motorcycle mobile, or vehicle mobile.
3. Portable: Where you take your equipment and antennas and temporarily
install them (like for a state QSO party) and then operate from this
location until you either quite or move to a different location. Portable
could also be where you pull a vehicle into parking position and it remains
there for the duration of the operation. You could either work out of the
back of an SUV or place your equipment on a table outside of the vehicle and
it would still be considered portable operation.
TNX & 73,
Dave N0EOP
31033
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of David - KG4ZLB
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:19 AM
To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
Interesting.
For my own purposes if I operate in my vehicle I sign "/m", if I am
outside with an Arrow and my h/t, I sign "/p" - that's the way I was
taught many years ago, there is no ambiguity and I don't think you can
go too far wrong with that!
73
--
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> Here's the relevent bits from the UK (and hence CEPT) license.
> As the FCC doesn't define mobile then it's up to you what you do on
> their teritory.
>
>
> Location
> --------
>
> 1(10) "Station" means the station of the Licensee at the Main Station
> Address, a Temporary Location or while Mobile or Maritime Mobile, as
> the case may be.
>
> 1(11) Subject to clause 11, the Licensee shall operate the Station only:
>
> (a) at the Main Station Address ("Main Station Address" means the
> main station address of the Licensee set forth in the Validation
> Document);
> (b) at a Temporary Location ("Temporary Location" means a
> location, other than the Main Station Address, and in a fixed position);
> (c) while Mobile ("Mobile" means located in any vehicle, as a
> pedestrian or on any Vessel in Inland Waters); or
> (d) while Maritime Mobile ("Maritime Mobile" means located on any
> Vessel At Sea).
>
> Identification
> --------------
> 7(3) At a Temporary Location, the Licensee shall:
>
> (a) use the suffix "/P" with his call sign and give the location
> of the Station every 30 minutes to an accuracy of at least 5km by a
> generally used identifier.
>
>
> 7(4) When Mobile, the Licensee shall use the suffix "/M" and when
> Maritime Mobile, the suffix "/MM".
>
>
>
> David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:51:57 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx
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That's how I've always approached it. Thanks, Dave, for this post.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
-------------- Original message from "Dave Sloan" <desloan@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>: ---
-----------
> Lets see, guess there are three major ways to operate:
>
> 1. Stationary: Where you are using equipment and antenna systems that are
> fixed and could not be able to go mobile or portable very easy.
>
> 2. Mobile: When the equipment is mounted and operated while installed in a
> piece of equipment that is designed to be mobile and except for short stops
> (red light) is moving. This could be foot mobile, bike mobile, ATV mobile,
> horse back mobile, motorcycle mobile, or vehicle mobile.
>
> 3. Portable: Where you take your equipment and antennas and temporarily
> install them (like for a state QSO party) and then operate from this
> location until you either quite or move to a different location. Portable
> could also be where you pull a vehicle into parking position and it remains
> there for the duration of the operation. You could either work out of the
> back of an SUV or place your equipment on a table outside of the vehicle and
> it would still be considered portable operation.
>
> TNX & 73,
> Dave N0EOP
> 31033
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of David - KG4ZLB
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:19 AM
> To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
> Cc: 'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
>
> Interesting.
>
> For my own purposes if I operate in my vehicle I sign "/m", if I am
> outside with an Arrow and my h/t, I sign "/p" - that's the way I was
> taught many years ago, there is no ambiguity and I don't think you can
> go too far wrong with that!
>
> 73
>
>
>
> --
> David
> KG4ZLB
> www.kg4zlb.com
>
>
> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> > Here's the relevent bits from the UK (and hence CEPT) license.
> > As the FCC doesn't define mobile then it's up to you what you do on
> > their teritory.
> >
> >
> > Location
> > --------
> >
> > 1(10) "Station" means the station of the Licensee at the Main Station
> > Address, a Temporary Location or while Mobile or Maritime Mobile, as
> > the case may be.
> >
> > 1(11) Subject to clause 11, the Licensee shall operate the Station only:
> >
> > (a) at the Main Station Address ("Main Station Address" means the
> > main station address of the Licensee set forth in the Validation
> > Document);
> > (b) at a Temporary Location ("Temporary Location" means a
> > location, other than the Main Station Address, and in a fixed position);
> > (c) while Mobile ("Mobile" means located in any vehicle, as a
> > pedestrian or on any Vessel in Inland Waters); or
> > (d) while Maritime Mobile ("Maritime Mobile" means located on any
> > Vessel At Sea).
> >
> > Identification
> > --------------
> > 7(3) At a Temporary Location, the Licensee shall:
> >
> > (a) use the suffix "/P" with his call sign and give the location
> > of the Station every 30 minutes to an accuracy of at least 5km by a
> > generally used identifier.
> >
> >
> > 7(4) When Mobile, the Licensee shall use the suffix "/M" and when
> > Maritime Mobile, the suffix "/MM".
> >
> >
> >
> > David - KG4ZLB wrote:
> >
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:05:09 -0400
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Defective W32A 4 Sale
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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This is a long story, I'll try not to get into too much detail, and
please any responses send them directly to me.
I have an Icom W32A (dual band full-duplex HT) package for sale. It
includes a wall charger; an off brand Master Charger 1a (drop in
charger); BP-173 9.6v 650mAh battery; 9.6v 1100 mAh W&W battery; Icom
antenna and original manual.
I bought this recently at the Orlando hamfest, and it seemed to be
working fine. It was a package deal, so I sold this to another ham
who found the radio had problems when it was received. The other ham
opened up the radio, and found a ribbon cable which goes from one part
of the radio to the other, was loose, and missing a small plastic
connector which holds it in place. When the ribbon cable was moved to
the right place, the radio worked perfectly. The other ham broke the
cable, and then tried to 'fix it' and the radio no longer turns on.
I don't want to deal with this anymore, and would prefer to sell it as-
is NOT WORKING. I'll sell the entire package only for $110 shipped.
This is good for parts, or perhaps you can repair it. Again, please
respond off the list.
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:08:38 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: Dave Sloan <desloan@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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That's exactly how I interpret the terminology.
Dave Sloan wrote:
> Lets see, guess there are three major ways to operate:
>
> 1. Stationary: Where you are using equipment and antenna systems that are
> fixed and could not be able to go mobile or portable very easy.
>
> 2. Mobile: When the equipment is mounted and operated while installed in a
> piece of equipment that is designed to be mobile and except for short stops
> (red light) is moving. This could be foot mobile, bike mobile, ATV mobile,
> horse back mobile, motorcycle mobile, or vehicle mobile.
>
> 3. Portable: Where you take your equipment and antennas and temporarily
> install them (like for a state QSO party) and then operate from this
> location until you either quite or move to a different location. Portable
> could also be where you pull a vehicle into parking position and it remains
> there for the duration of the operation. You could either work out of the
> back of an SUV or place your equipment on a table outside of the vehicle and
> it would still be considered portable operation.
>
> TNX & 73,
> Dave N0EOP
> 31033
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:15:00 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
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So if you are in your vehicle, operating with a mobile radio installed
in the vehicle and using an Arrow antenna out of the window, are you /m
or /p ?
I say mobile!
:-D
--
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> That's exactly how I interpret the terminology.
>
> Dave Sloan wrote:
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:22:08 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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If you're driving with an arrow antenna out the window you're probably gonna
find yourself in jail.
David - KG4ZLB wrote:
> So if you are in your vehicle, operating with a mobile radio installed
> in the vehicle and using an Arrow antenna out of the window, are you /m
> or /p ?
>
> I say mobile!
>
> :-D
>
>
>
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1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA 937 825 5032
e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx www http://www.ngunn.net
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:28:43 -0500
From: Kelly Martin <kelly.lynn.martin@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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/M if you're not driving the car but the car is moving (presumably
being driven by someone else). /P if the car is parked. If you are
operating while driving, and are near water, you might unexpectedly
become /MM, and if you're near a cliff, you might briefly get to
operate /AM.
The FCC dropped modal suffixes some time ago, and these are no longer
required in FCC-land, although I think there are some residual
situations that /MM and /AM are still required by treaty if not by
regulation, even in FCC-land.
Kelly
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM, David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> So if you are in your vehicle, operating with a mobile radio installed
> in the vehicle and using an Arrow antenna out of the window, are you /m
> or /p ?
>
> I say mobile!
>
> :-D
>
> --
> David
> KG4ZLB
> www.kg4zlb.com
>
>
>
> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>> That's exactly how I interpret the terminology.
>>
>> Dave Sloan wrote:
>>
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>
> --
> David
> KG4ZLB
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>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:46:07 +0100
From: Simone T <terrando@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS and Shuttle visible over Europe today
To: "Amsat-Bb@xxxxx. Org" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi everybody,
we had a nice visible pass of Space Shuttle Discovery pursuiting ISS over
south France (Antibes, JN33) at 8pm local time on March 17th.
73 de
IW1FYV - Simone
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:02:52 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: Kelly Martin <kelly.lynn.martin@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx
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On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 18:28 -0500, Kelly Martin wrote:
> The FCC dropped modal suffixes some time ago, and these are no longer
> required in FCC-land, although I think there are some residual
> situations that /MM and /AM are still required by treaty if not by
> regulation, even in FCC-land.
I think they dropped modal suffixes in the UK as well, but it still
seems polite to use them - if only to stop people thinking my house has
ignition hash and alternator whine :-/
Gordon
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:32:54 -0400
From: Ernie <w8eh.ernie@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Nigel, you must have not been on an American style _*mobile*_ fox hunt
yet. Picture 5 or 6 vehicles zooming down the road, closing in of a fox
transmitter, with either yagis or quads sticking out of the sun roof and
spinning 360 to get a bearing. We get the strange looks from the police,
but nobody has went to jail yet. :-)
73
Ernie W8EH
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> If you're driving with an arrow antenna out the window you're probably gonna
find yourself in jail.
>
> David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>
>> So if you are in your vehicle, operating with a mobile radio installed
>> in the vehicle and using an Arrow antenna out of the window, are you /m
>> or /p ?
>>
>> I say mobile!
>>
>> :-D
>>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:45:02 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: Ernie <w8eh.ernie@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <49C0440E.5010401@xxxxx.xxx>
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Only done fox hunts on foot.
Ernie wrote:
> Nigel, you must have not been on an American style _*mobile*_ fox hunt
> yet. Picture 5 or 6 vehicles zooming down the road, closing in of a fox
> transmitter, with either yagis or quads sticking out of the sun roof and
> spinning 360 to get a bearing. We get the strange looks from the police,
> but nobody has went to jail yet. :-)
>
> 73
> Ernie W8EH
>
>
>
> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>> If you're driving with an arrow antenna out the window you're probably
gonna find yourself in jail.
>>
>> David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>>
>>> So if you are in your vehicle, operating with a mobile radio installed
>>> in the vehicle and using an Arrow antenna out of the window, are you /m
>>> or /p ?
>>>
>>> I say mobile!
>>>
>>> :-D
>>>
>>
>
>
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1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA 937 825 5032
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:21:56 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
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David, KG4ZLB asked:
>I was reading about the newly launched GOCE satellite and the fact that
>its mission will end when its 40kg tank empties - that of course may be
>a long time coming but as it has an S band transmitter, could this not
>be tweaked for us once the mission is complete?
Given the low altitude orbit for this gravity mapping mission, I suspect that
the satellite will quickly reenter when the Xenon supply is used up.
Dan Schultz N8FGV
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