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1. Re: "Mobile" Operation (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
2. Re: grid squares (Kent Frazier)
3. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
4. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604)
5. Re: Did ISS perform maneuver burn? (Greg Beat)
6. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
7. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Tim Tapio)
8. Re: Did ISS perform maneuver burn? (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
9. Re: "Mobile" Operation (David - KG4ZLB)
10. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Alan Sieg WB5RMG)
11. Re: "Mobile" Operation (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
12. Re: old satellites (Hans Johnson)
13. Re: "Mobile" Operation (David - KG4ZLB)
14. Re: old satellites (David - KG4ZLB)
15. iss packet invalid callsign nnnnnn (Mr Jeffrey L Ross)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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sitting still is still mobile
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: Kent Frazier
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:41:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Mobile" Operation
I've heard conflicting things, so I'd like to see what the consensus is
here.
Since my rig is mounted in my car, I've been told I should say "mobile" when
ever I attempt a QSO. Some of the reasoning is that others will understand
my "limitations" and try to work me. On occasion, this seems to have been
the case.
Others have told me that I should only use "mobile" when the vehicle is
actually in motion.
What say you all?
73, Kent K5KNT
AMSAT #36765
ARRL
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:18:30 -0500
From: Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: grid squares
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I'm new enough at this I can use all the grids I can get <grin>.
73, Kent K5KNT
AMSAT #36765
ARRL
Sent from: San Angelo TX United States.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:51, Michael Heim <kd0ar@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how active FN01 is regarding satellite work, but I will be
> spending a week in that grid next week for work. If anyone needs FN01, I
> can be very easily convinced to take an HT and antenna with me. I do not
> believe I have the grid worked myself, so it might be rare on the birds.
>
> Let me know if you need it, and I'll do something to get on from Oil City,
> PA.
>
> Michael Heim
> ARS KD0AR
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:20:44 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Kent Frazier
<k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
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Sitting still isn't mobile if you're parked.
w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> sitting still is still mobile
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kent Frazier
>
> To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>
> Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:41:04 +0000 (UTC)
>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] "Mobile" Operation
>
>
>
> I've heard conflicting things, so I'd like to see what the consensus is
>
> here.
>
>
>
> Since my rig is mounted in my car, I've been told I should say "mobile" when
>
> ever I attempt a QSO. Some of the reasoning is that others will understand
>
> my "limitations" and try to work me. On occasion, this seems to have been
>
> the case.
>
>
>
> Others have told me that I should only use "mobile" when the vehicle is
>
> actually in motion.
>
>
>
> What say you all?
>
>
>
>
>
> 73, Kent K5KNT
>
> AMSAT #36765
>
> ARRL
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:23:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 <faunt@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090317162338.4ED5A1A403@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
IMHO, it depends on the antennas- if you have stop and set them up,
and then take them back down again before you move away, then you're
portable. If you can move with those antennas, even just across a
parking lot, you're mobile.
73, doug
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:36:12 -0500
From: "Greg Beat" <gregory.beat@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Did ISS perform maneuver burn?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Jeff -
When I was listening to the Shuttle STS-119 audio feed last night - March 16
(just before Midnight - Chicago time).
The Shuttle performed a burn to "catch up" with the ISS.
The shuttle appeared to be about 20 minutes behind the ISS on the visible pass
here last night -- before the burn.
w9gb
====
Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:34:07 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Did ISS perform maneuver burn?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi all!
Did the ISS perform a maneuver burn to avoid a possible collision with space
junk? The reason I ask is during the 0841z to 0850z pass I started to
receive the downlink about 08:39:30. About 1.5 minutes before the AOS was
to occur. I'm using 1 week old keps and the previous night pass was right
on schedule.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
DM26
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:36:45 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: John Heaton <john@xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Kent Frazier
<k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <49BFD19D.2040005@xxxxx.xxx>
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If you're not operating from your station address, and your entire station is
not capable of being fully operated whilst
moving, then you are portable.
If your station is completely operable whilst you move your "shack" at the
vehicle's (or your feet if walking) normal
speed, you are probably mobile.
John Heaton wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 16:20 +0000, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>> Sitting still isn't mobile if you're parked.
>
> I understood that if you aren't operating from your station address then
> you are 'mobile'..
>
> John
>
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1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA 937 825 5032
e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx www http://www.ngunn.net
Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pig #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK, MKARS,
ALC
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:38:12 -0400
From: "Tim Tapio" <tim@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'Kent Frazier'" <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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My wife doesn't believe I'm mobile when I'm sitting still <smile>
73 de Tim, K4SHF
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:12 PM
To: Kent Frazier
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
sitting still is still mobile
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: Kent Frazier
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:41:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Mobile" Operation
I've heard conflicting things, so I'd like to see what the consensus is
here.
Since my rig is mounted in my car, I've been told I should say "mobile" when
ever I attempt a QSO. Some of the reasoning is that others will understand
my "limitations" and try to work me. On occasion, this seems to have been
the case.
Others have told me that I should only use "mobile" when the vehicle is
actually in motion.
What say you all?
73, Kent K5KNT
AMSAT #36765
ARRL
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:38:28 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Did ISS perform maneuver burn?
To: Greg Beat <gregory.beat@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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You answered the wrong question. He asked if the ISS manouvred to miss the
debris.
Greg Beat wrote:
> Jeff -
>
> When I was listening to the Shuttle STS-119 audio feed last night - March 16
(just before Midnight - Chicago time).
> The Shuttle performed a burn to "catch up" with the ISS.
>
> The shuttle appeared to be about 20 minutes behind the ISS on the visible
pass here last night -- before the burn.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:45:56 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <49BFD3C4.1050901@xxxxx.xxx>
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I have always taken the stance that if you are operating in a vehicle
(moving or not), you are "mobile", if you are on foot, then "portable".
I am sure that someone will question the meaning of the word "mobile".
My view is that it is short for "auto-mobile", not "mobile" by walking
around some place!
Just my half a euro's worth!
--
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
Tim Tapio wrote:
> My wife doesn't believe I'm mobile when I'm sitting still <smile>
>
> 73 de Tim, K4SHF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:12 PM
> To: Kent Frazier
> Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
>
> sitting still is still mobile
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kent Frazier
>
> To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>
> Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:41:04 +0000 (UTC)
>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] "Mobile" Operation
>
>
>
> I've heard conflicting things, so I'd like to see what the consensus is
>
> here.
>
>
>
> Since my rig is mounted in my car, I've been told I should say "mobile" when
>
> ever I attempt a QSO. Some of the reasoning is that others will understand
>
> my "limitations" and try to work me. On occasion, this seems to have been
>
> the case.
>
>
>
> Others have told me that I should only use "mobile" when the vehicle is
>
> actually in motion.
>
>
>
> What say you all?
>
>
>
>
>
> 73, Kent K5KNT
>
> AMSAT #36765
>
> ARRL
>
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>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:05:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Alan Sieg WB5RMG" <wb5rmg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <2105.198.119.224.78.1237309534.squirrel@xxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
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So . . .
As I really only have a hand-held radio when I'm in the car,
that might be considered porta-mobile.
But since I often have to stop and hang the antenna out the window,
would that be considered psuedo-mobile ?
Which raises another age-old question -
"If I forget to key the mic while talking, but my wife isn't around,
- am I still wrong ?"
(Your mileage may vary) /;^)
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:07:12 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <49BFD8C0.2020202@xxxxx.xxx>
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Here's the relevent bits from the UK (and hence CEPT) license.
As the FCC doesn't define mobile then it's up to you what you do on their
teritory.
Location
--------
1(10) "Station" means the station of the Licensee at the Main Station Address,
a Temporary Location or while Mobile or
Maritime Mobile, as the case may be.
1(11) Subject to clause 11, the Licensee shall operate the Station only:
(a) at the Main Station Address ("Main Station Address" means the main
station address of the Licensee set forth in
the Validation Document);
(b) at a Temporary Location ("Temporary Location" means a location, other
than the Main Station Address, and in a
fixed position);
(c) while Mobile ("Mobile" means located in any vehicle, as a pedestrian
or on any Vessel in Inland Waters); or
(d) while Maritime Mobile ("Maritime Mobile" means located on any Vessel
At Sea).
Identification
--------------
7(3) At a Temporary Location, the Licensee shall:
(a) use the suffix "/P" with his call sign and give the location of the
Station every 30 minutes to an accuracy of
at least 5km by a generally used identifier.
7(4) When Mobile, the Licensee shall use the suffix "/M" and when Maritime
Mobile, the suffix "/MM".
David - KG4ZLB wrote:
> I have always taken the stance that if you are operating in a vehicle
> (moving or not), you are "mobile", if you are on foot, then "portable".
>
> I am sure that someone will question the meaning of the word "mobile".
> My view is that it is short for "auto-mobile", not "mobile" by walking
> around some place!
>
> Just my half a euro's worth!
>
>
>
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1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA 937 825 5032
e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx www http://www.ngunn.net
Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pig #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK, MKARS,
ALC
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:12:35 -0700
From: Hans Johnson <hans.johnson@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Furthermore, from what I understand, international agreements (or at least
implicit agreements) now require the operators to vent any remaining fuel.
This is to prevent the satellite from exploding at some point in the future
due to either the (rather caustic) fuel corroding through the fuel tank, or
a debris/micrometeorite hit.
Once this is complete, the operators will then permanently shut down the
satellite so that there is no chance of it interfering with the operational
fleet. The last thing they want is a semi-active satellite drifting past an
operational satellite (at least from the POV of the earth station) and
potentially confusing tracking antennas, or otherwise interfering with
revenue traffic.
As far as shifting them to amateur frequencies, I doubt it's physically
possible. In order to get the Tx/Rx isolation they need, the satellites
will be using cavity filters, so unless you're very close to their passband,
there's no hope. Heck, in my day job, we have to use different filters if
we want to operate in extended ku-band filters.
Regards,
Hans Johnson
VA7HAS
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> There is no reason to stabilize a satellite after it is boosted to the
> graveyard orbit. The satellite might have power and be easy to track,
> but the antennas won't point towards earth very often.
>
> Wayne Estes W9AE
> Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:19:18 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Mobile" Operation
To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "'AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <49BFDB96.7020508@xxxxx.xxx>
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Interesting.
For my own purposes if I operate in my vehicle I sign "/m", if I am
outside with an Arrow and my h/t, I sign "/p" - that's the way I was
taught many years ago, there is no ambiguity and I don't think you can
go too far wrong with that!
73
--
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> Here's the relevent bits from the UK (and hence CEPT) license.
> As the FCC doesn't define mobile then it's up to you what you do on
> their teritory.
>
>
> Location
> --------
>
> 1(10) "Station" means the station of the Licensee at the Main Station
> Address, a Temporary Location or while Mobile or Maritime Mobile, as
> the case may be.
>
> 1(11) Subject to clause 11, the Licensee shall operate the Station only:
>
> (a) at the Main Station Address ("Main Station Address" means the
> main station address of the Licensee set forth in the Validation
> Document);
> (b) at a Temporary Location ("Temporary Location" means a
> location, other than the Main Station Address, and in a fixed position);
> (c) while Mobile ("Mobile" means located in any vehicle, as a
> pedestrian or on any Vessel in Inland Waters); or
> (d) while Maritime Mobile ("Maritime Mobile" means located on any
> Vessel At Sea).
>
> Identification
> --------------
> 7(3) At a Temporary Location, the Licensee shall:
>
> (a) use the suffix "/P" with his call sign and give the location
> of the Station every 30 minutes to an accuracy of at least 5km by a
> generally used identifier.
>
>
> 7(4) When Mobile, the Licensee shall use the suffix "/M" and when
> Maritime Mobile, the suffix "/MM".
>
>
>
> David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:28:00 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
To: Hans Johnson <hans.johnson@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I was reading about the newly launched GOCE satellite and the fact that
its mission will end when its 40kg tank empties - that of course may be
a long time coming but as it has an S band transmitter, could this not
be tweaked for us once the mission is complete?
And thinking further, for these satellites could amateur radio gear be
carried so that it could be activated once the main mission is complete?
Doing this over a number of years would provide a ready made supply of
new birds over a period of time.
I suppose logistics and cost will be the factor but its an idea and
would give us at least something!
--
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
Hans Johnson wrote:
> Furthermore, from what I understand, international agreements (or at least
> implicit agreements) now require the operators to vent any remaining fuel.
> This is to prevent the satellite from exploding at some point in the future
> due to either the (rather caustic) fuel corroding through the fuel tank, or
> a debris/micrometeorite hit.
>
> Once this is complete, the operators will then permanently shut down the
> satellite so that there is no chance of it interfering with the operational
> fleet. The last thing they want is a semi-active satellite drifting past an
> operational satellite (at least from the POV of the earth station) and
> potentially confusing tracking antennas, or otherwise interfering with
> revenue traffic.
>
> As far as shifting them to amateur frequencies, I doubt it's physically
> possible. In order to get the Tx/Rx isolation they need, the satellites
> will be using cavity filters, so unless you're very close to their passband,
> there's no hope. Heck, in my day job, we have to use different filters if
> we want to operate in extended ku-band filters.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hans Johnson
> VA7HAS
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:47:22 -0400
From: "Mr Jeffrey L Ross" <radiooperator@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] iss packet invalid callsign nnnnnn
To: "amsat" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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hi folks, just looking at the iss mheard callsign list I see one called
nnnnnnn. Does anyone know what or who this is? maybe just a silly error, or
maybe someone is using the iss without a call. we hams police our own if I'm
not mistaken. anyway why its here to observe and go over hows about some
explaining to us why there are serveral calls for the iss. I see in the
list, ISS, ISS-10,ISS-5, RSOISS-4, -4 I Think is the heard digi, but always
wondering what the other iss calls are. If anyone knows please post, thank
you much, kc8gkf-5 UISS User.
attached is the isscallsign heard list
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