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Today's Topics:

1. Re: N3TL/portable tonight (Glenn AA5PK)
2. Re: N3TL/portable tonight (Kent Frazier)
3. Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS (Art McBride)
4. Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS (Nate Duehr)
5. Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS (Nate Duehr)
6. Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS (Edward Cole)
7.  AMSAT INDIA March-09 Newsletter (Nitin Muttin)
8. Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
9. Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
10.  How much Precision for QTH? (Kent Frazier)
11.  Did ISS perform maneuver burn? (Jeff Yanko)
12.  "Mobile" Operation (Kent Frazier)
13. Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS (Dave Taylor)
14.  Telemetry system on ISS, MM (MM)
15. Re: Did ISS perform maneuver burn? (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
16.  N3TL/portable South Carolina (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
17.  grid squares (Michael Heim)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:00:00 -0500
From: "Glenn AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: N3TL/portable tonight
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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A million thanks to Tim/N3TL for the SC contact this evening on AO-51.
That makes all 50 states.

73
Glenn AA5PK
AMSAT #6694


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:03:13 -0500
From: Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: N3TL/portable tonight
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I would also like to publicly give my thanks to Tim/N3TL and also
congratulate Glen/AA5PK for his accomplishment!


73, Kent K5KNT
AMSAT #36765
ARRL
Sent from: San Angelo TX United States.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 20:00, Glenn AA5PK <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> A million thanks to Tim/N3TL for the SC contact this evening on AO-51.
> That makes all 50 states.
>
> 73
> Glenn AA5PK
> AMSAT #6694
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:50:35 -0700
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS
To: "'Nate Duehr'" <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'amsat'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Aircraft transmissions are AM to allow detection a weaker signal that may
come from a distressed aircraft. A carrier 30 dB lower will still produce a
whistle allowing the controller to ask the other aircraft to stand by to
copy the weaker signal.

Art, KC6UQH

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: 'amsat'
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS

How are the "American aircraft signals" which are all AM, being rebroadcast
in any intelligible way by an FM receiver?

The only aircraft that MIGHT transmit with FM, are military aircraft.  And
rarely in the clear or without frequency-hopping spread spectrum technology
involved.   (And that's not really FM, so to speak -- nor copyable through
the repeater you're describing.)

I smell something wrong here with your information, or there's more to the
story.

Nate WY0X

-----Original Message-----

Sometimes you can hear VHF-1 while ISS is passing over the USA.  When the
repeater mode is active you can hear American aircraft signals being
re-transmitted over the ISS commercial repeater.

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:57:15 -0600
From: Nate Duehr <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Nate Duehr wrote:

> How are the "American aircraft signals" which are all AM, being
> rebroadcast
> in any intelligible way by an FM receiver?

You know, you didn't say (and probably can't) what kind of receiver
it's using, actually.  I assumed FM in, FM out.

> I smell something wrong here with your information, or there's more
> to the
> story.

I was careful to say this, but got one very professional and two nasty
comments off-list who thought I was attacking the original poster.  I
wasn't.  The professional comment came (not too surprisingly) from
someone elected to AMSAT leadership, showing excellent taste and
restraint.  Thanks, you know who you are.

Just saying it smelled fishy to me -- assuming an FM receiver.  No
harm meant by it.  The typical FCC TSO'ed AM aircraft transmitter is
5W PEP, some are 10W PEP.  5W PEP AM to an FM receiver to be well
detected at ISS's range is certainly do-able, but it wouldn't sound
very good, I'd think.  Don't know.  All depends on the receiver
quality, of course... a bunch of stuff.

The MUCH more interesting tid-bit that was somewhat hidden in the rest
of the non-AMSAT info in the message was that there's a DCI filter on
the front-end of the Kenwood?  Did I read that correctly?

That made me wonder a new question:  What's the measured insertion
loss on it?

It would make for more interesting data for accurate link-budget
analysis/calculations for talking to the ARISS station.  Would be
interesting to see if the rig meets the published Kenwood specs, minus
the antenna "gain" and filtering by altering power from this end and
seeing if the numbers match up in the real world.

Is the DCI filter being in-line widely known?  I've never seen it on
any of the ARISS documentation I've read, but it might have been there
somewhere.  Maybe I missed it.

That seemed to be the only AMSAT-related part of that original
posting...  the fact that there's other "commercial" transmitters and
receivers on board, seemed like a "given" to me.  It also seemed
obvious that filtering and mitigation of effects from one system to
another has to be done, like on all spacecraft or other multi-
frequency RF systems crammed into a relatively small space.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx






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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:13:43 -0600
From: Nate Duehr <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <EB8F405B-EF6F-419C-B4EF-A2B25679D538@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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On Mar 16, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Nate Duehr wrote:

> harm meant by it.  The typical FCC TSO'ed AM aircraft transmitter is

Bah... the FAA TSO's Aviation gear.  Too late at night... no brain
cells firing anymore... (sigh).

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx






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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:21:39 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS
To: Nate Duehr <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <200903170721.n2H7LdEC074941@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed


I believe DCI specs their filters on their website.  I have a 6-pole
144-MHz cavity filter that runs about 0.1 dB insertion loss, though I
believe they spec it as 0.2 dB.  There are several models so one
would need the model number.  I use mine between my 1st preamp and
2nd preamp in my 2m-eme station to help isolate out of band RF
overload of the receiver.  It is rated for 200w so can be used for Tx
filtering.

73, Ed - KL7UW

At 09:57 PM 3/16/2009, Nate Duehr wrote:

>On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Nate Duehr wrote:
>
> > How are the "American aircraft signals" which are all AM, being
> > rebroadcast
> > in any intelligible way by an FM receiver?
>
>You know, you didn't say (and probably can't) what kind of receiver
>it's using, actually.  I assumed FM in, FM out.
>
> > I smell something wrong here with your information, or there's more
> > to the
> > story.
>
>I was careful to say this, but got one very professional and two nasty
>comments off-list who thought I was attacking the original poster.  I
>wasn't.  The professional comment came (not too surprisingly) from
>someone elected to AMSAT leadership, showing excellent taste and
>restraint.  Thanks, you know who you are.
>
>Just saying it smelled fishy to me -- assuming an FM receiver.  No
>harm meant by it.  The typical FCC TSO'ed AM aircraft transmitter is
>5W PEP, some are 10W PEP.  5W PEP AM to an FM receiver to be well
>detected at ISS's range is certainly do-able, but it wouldn't sound
>very good, I'd think.  Don't know.  All depends on the receiver
>quality, of course... a bunch of stuff.
>
>The MUCH more interesting tid-bit that was somewhat hidden in the rest
>of the non-AMSAT info in the message was that there's a DCI filter on
>the front-end of the Kenwood?  Did I read that correctly?
>
>That made me wonder a new question:  What's the measured insertion
>loss on it?
>
>It would make for more interesting data for accurate link-budget
>analysis/calculations for talking to the ARISS station.  Would be
>interesting to see if the rig meets the published Kenwood specs, minus
>the antenna "gain" and filtering by altering power from this end and
>seeing if the numbers match up in the real world.
>
>Is the DCI filter being in-line widely known?  I've never seen it on
>any of the ARISS documentation I've read, but it might have been there
>somewhere.  Maybe I missed it.
>
>That seemed to be the only AMSAT-related part of that original
>posting...  the fact that there's other "commercial" transmitters and
>receivers on board, seemed like a "given" to me.  It also seemed
>obvious that filtering and mitigation of effects from one system to
>another has to be done, like on all spacecraft or other multi-
>frequency RF systems crammed into a relatively small space.
>
>--
>Nate Duehr, WY0X
>nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx
>
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:27:19 -0700
From: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AMSAT INDIA March-09 Newsletter
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <5d7ed69f9fee0ed05cdb8b3ff284fd86@xxx.xx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; 	charset="iso-8859-1"

All,

AMSAT India March 2009 Newsletter is uploaded and available at

http://www.amsatindia.org/Newsletter/AmsatIndia-News-March.pdf

www.amsatindia.org/Newsletter

73's
Nitin [VU3TYG]
AMSAT India
www.amsatindia.org

________________________________________________





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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:28:41 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS
To: "'amsat'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1237285721.6300.24.camel@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 18:27 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
> How are the "American aircraft signals" which are all AM, being rebroadcast
> in any intelligible way by an FM receiver?

Uhm, perhaps because FM receivers can usually pick up AM pretty well, if
not perfectly?

It took me a while to realise that the slight distortion I was hearing
on the infamous Edinburgh 145.800MHz (yes, they trample on the ISS
downlink) net was because they were using AM, not FM.  It just sounded
very slightly off-tune, but no amount of tweaking would bring it in...

Gordon



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:32:09 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1237285929.6300.28.camel@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 23:57 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:

> Just saying it smelled fishy to me -- assuming an FM receiver.  No
> harm meant by it.  The typical FCC TSO'ed AM aircraft transmitter is
> 5W PEP, some are 10W PEP.  5W PEP AM to an FM receiver to be well
> detected at ISS's range is certainly do-able, but it wouldn't sound
> very good, I'd think.  Don't know.  All depends on the receiver
> quality, of course... a bunch of stuff.

Further to my earlier message, a quick experiment has shown that my
Kenwood TH-F7E (same one I picked the Edinburgh guys up with) gives
intelligible but not brilliant audio from aircraft when it's set to FM.
This may be down to the radio.  I can post a couple of recordings, if
you like.

Gordon



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:33:00 -0500
From: Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  How much Precision for QTH?
To: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<92f8f1580903170333t768e44ccvc77d87ec808a38cf@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi all,

I was wondering how much precision is needed when indicating my QTH on a QSL
card. Since my station is currently my mobile rig, mounted in my car, I
sometimes operate from different locations. Mostly I operate from the
driveway of my home, but I have also operated from my daughter's elementary
school and my work parking lots. Both of these locations are within a 2 mile
radius of my home.

I know if I were in a different grid square I would need to indicate that,
but when operating within the same grid and even the same subgrid how
precise do I need to be?

73, Kent K5KNT
AMSAT #36765
ARRL


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:34:07 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Did ISS perform maneuver burn?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <D48CA16E64E44DD186DE36455EFF8ECE@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hi all!

Did the ISS perform a maneuver burn to avoid a possible collision with space
junk?  The reason I ask is during the 0841z to 0850z pass I started to
receive the downlink about 08:39:30.  About 1.5 minutes before the AOS was
to occur.  I'm using 1 week old keps and the previous night pass was right
on schedule.

73,

Jeff  WB3JFS
DM26






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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:41:04 -0500
From: Kent Frazier <k5knt.kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  "Mobile" Operation
To: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<92f8f1580903170441w3f2ab736r8fcbaaae2b8a5d5b@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I've heard conflicting things, so I'd like to see what the consensus is
here.

Since my rig is mounted in my car, I've been told I should say "mobile" when
ever I attempt a QSO. Some of the reasoning is that others will understand
my "limitations" and try to work me. On occasion, this seems to have been
the case.

Others have told me that I should only use "mobile" when the vehicle is
actually in motion.

What say you all?


73, Kent K5KNT
AMSAT #36765
ARRL


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:06:05 -0400
From: Dave Taylor <dave.w8aas@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tranzit-B telemetry system on ISS
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Nate Duehr <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BF834002-1A67-49AA-93E9-7A97BAB74D71@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=US-ASCII;	format=flowed;	delsp=yes

No, you misread it.  The DCI filter was used on the Mir installation.
There is no additional filter on the D700 aboard ISS.

-- Dave, W8AAS


On Mar 17, 2009, at 1:57 AM, Nate Duehr wrote:
>
> The MUCH more interesting tid-bit that was somewhat hidden in the rest
> of the non-AMSAT info in the message was that there's a DCI filter on
> the front-end of the Kenwood?  Did I read that correctly?



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Telemetry system on ISS, MM
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ
	<gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <523186.13536.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8



Hi all:

I guess I should have used the word ?Transponder? rather than the word
?Repeater? in my last memo.  The device on ISS appears to act more like a
Transponder, rather than a true FM repeater. The Transponder will repeat any
signal it hears on the input and retransmit that signal on the output.
At the end of this memo I attached an email from the person that provided the
recording made last year.


[SCPC-FDM,SAT DX] 143.625 ODD CommsTuesday,
July 8, 2008 11:12 PM
From: "Jody"
Add sender to Contacts To: SCPC-FDM@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx

This morning, sometime before 12 EST time local here I copied some
strange comms from the ISS frequency of 143.625. The modulation mode
was WFM. Other known ISS frequencies were active with data
transmissions at the same time. Attached is a link to a recording I
made of the 143.625 Frequency. You can tell at the start of the
recording  I was tuning in the Narrow FM mode, 5.5Khz bandwidth, after
switching to wide FM mode on my Icom R8500 I was able to copy the
comms. For some reason the crew was retransmitting aircraft comms. In
the clip you hear a center controller and some other aircraft. One
aircraft heard in the clip was Cessna 38 Uniform. it appears that
aircraft was based in Colorado from a registration lookup. Also the
center controller made references to Memphis center. It sounds very
much like someone was tuning around the airbands and it was getting
retransmitted. I was told by one that it could been a possible Comm
test for a upcoming EVA. Take a listen and see if you can pull
anything more from the recording. I was using a Icom R8500 and a
discone antenna. No chance of intermod. Poor signal quality due to the
antenna not being resonant, it?s was 225-400Mhz mil discone being used.

Link to audio:
http://www.savefile.com/files/1655618

One aircraft in recording:
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=38U&cmndfind.x=
0&cmndfind.y=0

Jody
North Georgia

***********

The DCI filter was a custom Job for Space Station Mir.

Picture of Filter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36403622@xxxx

The problem:
When the VHF-1 Transmitter was active, the Amateur radio station would go
deaf.  The Russian crew used the VHF-1 transmitter frequently over the USA
during joint American missions.
This would manifest its self by seeing the Kantronics KPC-9612 packet system
send out a consecutive series of 7 Retries to the person that was last logged
in.  No other packet would be seen coming down.  It was just like someone was
logged in and then the receiver was turned off.  If you switched over to the
VHF-1 frequency you could hear a strong down link signal and voice.

I tested this theory again with a phone patch to Jerry Linenger and his
brother in Detroit.  The first few seconds of the phone patch went good via
the Kenwood TM-733, then Jerry could not hear my signal any more.  I quickly
checked the VHF-1 channel and found the Mir crew members talking to Moscow via
the Houston VHF-1 ground station.
I was finally able to punch through the interference for a few seconds while
Mir was directly over my house.  I was using a Yaesu FT-736R, M2-CP22 antenna,
AZ/EL rotor and EIRP 2-5 kW.

I was finally able to convince ARISS the filter was a needed project and they
agreed.  ARISS generate the appropriate paper work and Russia flew the filter
to Mir in the spring on 1998, just in time for Andy?s mission.

The Solution:
Ralph at DCI used one of this stock 4 cavity filters and added a 5th cavity.
The extra cavity contained a Notch filter aimed at the frequency of VHF-1.
The Notch filter provided an additional 20-25 dB of attenuation.  With the new
filter the Kenwood radios could be used to receive down to the 145 MHz range,
while the VHF-1 transmitter was active.

At the present time ARISS does not believe their is any noticeable de-sensing
problems with the Amateur Radio station on ISS, so the DCI project for ISS is
on hold until we have proven there is a need.



Special thanks to Jody  at the Yahoo SCPC-FDM,SAT DX group for providing the
recordings from ISS

And thanks to Kenwood for building radios that can survive for years inside a
manned space station.


73 Miles WF1F Marex, (4 project in flight an growing)










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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:13:02 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Did ISS perform maneuver burn?
To: Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <49BF93CE.6040709@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

No

Jeff Yanko wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Did the ISS perform a maneuver burn to avoid a possible collision with space
> junk?  The reason I ask is during the 0841z to 0850z pass I started to
> receive the downlink about 08:39:30.  About 1.5 minutes before the AOS was
> to occur.  I'm using 1 week old keps and the previous night pass was right
> on schedule.
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff  WB3JFS
> DM26
>
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:38:57 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  N3TL/portable South Carolina
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
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Hey everyone,

What a hoot that was! If any of you are thinking about making a drive to
activate a not-so-active grid or a not-so-active state ... go for it! You will
have a blast. I did.

>From here in northeast Georgia, South Carolina is closer than Ham Radio
Outlet's Atlanta store. Last night, I drove up U.S. 441 to I-85 and headed
north to the state line. I found a couple of really good locations very close
to the border and just off the interstate. I chose the South Carolina Welcome
Center at I-85 mile marker 1 last night because (1) the pass would be after
dark and the center is very well lit, and (2) it was rainy and foggy. I
figured the light and security of the center would be nice to have. They were.

My home grid, to six characters, is EM84ha. On this pass, I operated from
EM84ll.

This was a busy pass of AO-51, and there were multiple Mexican stations
operating portable from different grids. In spite of that, I made a personal
high of 11 contacts on the pass, with:

AA5PK
K8YSE - EL98
N5AFV
K8YSE - EN91
KB0RZD
WA5KBH
N1RCN
N9AMW
WA2S
K5KNT
K8NWD

Thanks to everyone on the pass. It was great hearing all of you and working so
many of you. This location is a good one for working passes to the west, and
I'll be using it again to activate South Carolina.

QSL cards will be on the way in the next day or two. No return card is
necessary.

73 to all,

Tim - N3TL
EM84ha


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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Heim <kd0ar@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  grid squares
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I'm not sure how active FN01 is regarding satellite work, but I will be
spending a week in that grid next week for work.  If anyone needs FN01, I can
be very easily convinced to take an HT and antenna with me.  I do not believe
I have the grid worked myself, so it might be rare on the birds.

Let me know if you need it, and I'll do something to get on from Oil City, PA.

Michael Heim
ARS KD0AR



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