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Today's Topics:
1. Re: old satellites (Mark Spencer)
2. Re: old satellites (Jim Jerzycke)
3. Re: TH-D7(G) (David McKenzie)
4. Re: TH-D7(G) (John Price)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:16:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Spencer <mspencer12345@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
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I would be surprised if any of the transponders on the geo stationary
satellites can work on amateur frequencies althought some of the C
band?transponders might be fairly close.
Does any one know if the comercial transponders have any degree?of frequency
agility ?
Mark VE7AFZ
----- Original Message ----
From: MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:57:38 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
There have been cases in the past, where Old commercial satellites have been
assigned other light duties.
Example, a marginally functional satellite was assigned free telephone status
for the remote island Pitcairn.?
so it may be possible to find some other satellites that still have working
transponders which are not good enough for profit but could still be used by
hams.? Example, if the sat was designed as a Geo sat and it's Fuel runs out,
it will drift out of its parking space.? The transponders still work but it
can not be used since its Moving and its not in its assigned parking space.
we should not only check out the Geo Sats, but also Tumbling Iridium sats too.
Any one have contacts are Huges or one of the other satellite companies?
wf1f.
--- On Thu, 3/12/09, w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb]? old satellites
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:24 AM
> Hello
> I believe this subject has been kicked around on this BB
> before.? It did generate some creative thinking.? Given? all
> the satellites up there and all the varied uses of them,
> eventually some of them get compromised for whatever reason.
>? Is there any way any of these old relics can be
> reprogramed, used or otherwise "adjusted" to suit
> us?? We don't need a real good S/N? ratio to make us
> happy, and we are pretty good at cobbling together whatever
> we want.? We have some very informed and smart people on
> this BB who know.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Seattle
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
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Satellites not allowed to intentionally "drift" out of their assigned orbital
slot. When the fuel gets down to a critical level, *sometimes* they'll allow
them to drift North-South in an inclined orbit to get some extra operating
time out of them, but they're carefully controlled as to East-West movement.
When the fuel gets _really_ low, they use the remainder to boost them up
higher into a graveyard orbit. Unless something catastrophic happens, the
ground controllers NEVER allow a commercial satellite to run out of fuel just
sitting in it's assigned slot.
Hughes Space and Communications doesn't exist anymore. They were bought by
Boeing in 2000, and are now the Boeing Satellite Development Center.
Jim KQ6EA
Former Hughes and current Boeing employee
--- On Thu, 3/12/09, MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: old satellites
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:57 AM
> There have been cases in the past, where Old commercial
> satellites have been assigned other light duties.
> Example, a marginally functional satellite was assigned
> free telephone status for the remote island Pitcairn.
>
> so it may be possible to find some other satellites that
> still have working transponders which are not good enough
> for profit but could still be used by hams. Example, if the
> sat was designed as a Geo sat and it's Fuel runs out, it
> will drift out of its parking space. The transponders still
> work but it can not be used since its Moving and its not in
> its assigned parking space.
> we should not only check out the Geo Sats, but also
> Tumbling Iridium sats too.
>
> Any one have contacts are Huges or one of the other
> satellite companies?
>
>
> wf1f.
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
> <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] old satellites
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:24 AM
> > Hello
> > I believe this subject has been kicked around on this
> BB
> > before. It did generate some creative thinking.
> Given all
> > the satellites up there and all the varied uses of
> them,
> > eventually some of them get compromised for whatever
> reason.
> > Is there any way any of these old relics can be
> > reprogramed, used or otherwise "adjusted" to
> suit
> > us? We don't need a real good S/N ratio to make
> us
> > happy, and we are pretty good at cobbling together
> whatever
> > we want. We have some very informed and smart people
> on
> > this BB who know.
> > 73 Bob W7LRD
> > Seattle
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> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are
> those
> > of the author.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:32:57 -0400
From: David McKenzie <kb1fsy@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TH-D7(G)
To: Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Jeff, I have one of these HTs and as I recall there is no way to put it
into KISS mode. It's been a long time since I have used it for data, though
so I could be mistaken.
Regards,
Dave KB1FSY
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I've been looking over the TH-D7(G) manual on setting up the HT for data
> and
> can't seem to kind anything on setting the TNC to the KISS mode. Has
> anybody tried it or is it possible?
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff WB3JFS
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:06:18 -0400
From: John Price <n4qwf1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TH-D7(G)
To: kb1fsy@xxxxxxx.xxxx "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
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On page 45 of the Special Instructions Manual Command Name "KISS" is
explained. I have three of these radios and they will operate in kiss
mode. If you need
the instructions on how to do it I can email them to you.
73's << John
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:32 AM, David McKenzie <kb1fsy@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Jeff, I have one of these HTs and as I recall there is no way to put it
> into KISS mode. It's been a long time since I have used it for data, though
> so I could be mistaken.
>
> Regards,
> Dave KB1FSY
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've been looking over the TH-D7(G) manual on setting up the HT for data
>> and
>> can't seem to kind anything on setting the TNC to the KISS mode. ?Has
>> anybody tried it or is it possible?
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jeff ?WB3JFS
>>
>>
>>
>>
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