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Today's Topics:
1. Combining two Arrow Antennas (Chris Bloy)
2. Re: Combining two Arrow Antennas (Andrew Glasbrenner)
3. Re: Combining two Arrow Antennas (Chris Bloy)
4. AO-51 V/u (KC2PCR)
5. Re: AO-7 telemetry 1335 utc 4 March2009 (Mark L. Hammond)
6. More Fun with old lady (AO-7) !!! (Nader Omer)
7. For Sale: AOP-1 antenna (charter)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:21:17 +0000
From: Chris Bloy <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Combining two Arrow Antennas
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Hi All,
I am thinking of expanding my portable operations as I can operate from
my garden. Its quite hard to use the SSB birds handheld, so what do you
think of using two arrow antennas on a G5500 mounted on a tripod for
which I have seen Howard (G6LVB) perform quite well.
Now, the questions.. :-
I see that Howard mounted his off-set to each other.. I.E. Left one had
the two metre ele's face left and the right to the right.. Is this for
polarity? Making one LHCP and the other RHCP??
How do I make them act as one? Can I use something to join them together
so that I have two listening on 70cm and transmitting on 2m? Whats
involved to stack them?
Finally, what kind of performance can I expect out of this, i do have a
19 ele 70 / 9 ele 2 m, but is 3 metres in length!! Not quite portable?
As for radios, I think its been decided to have two 706MIIG as from the
reviews I have had, you cannot CAT control the 817/897/857 to adjust
when transmitting? And there is a delay in receive too.. I already have
a 706 and 817, but thinking of trading this in for a second 706?
I hope this isnt too many questions, but would love to use the ssb birds
before we lose (AO7 & FO29)..
Answers on a postcard!
Chris - M0DQO
Currently in his hotel room in Edinburgh, Scotland!
P.S. be gentle with me, as I am not electionic's expert!, but very
willing to learn!!
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:41:11 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Combining two Arrow Antennas
To: "Chris Bloy" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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>you cannot CAT control the 817/897/857 to adjust
> when transmitting? And there is a delay in receive too.. I already have
> a 706 and 817, but thinking of trading this in for a second 706?
Don't be overly long winded and the frequency adjustment issue isn't a
problem. You don't have to use CAT control at all, especially on full duplex
setups!
I'd use the existing 706 for transmit, and the 817 for receive. The previous
issue then becomes moot. Take a laptop and the 817 and an arrow for portable
half duplex fun. I do this for hamfest demos and while on vacation, and it
never fails to please. Matter of fact I just bought a used eee netbook for a
lighter source of prediction and Doppler correction.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:58:51 +0000
From: Chris Bloy <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Combining two Arrow Antennas
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Andrew,
Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> Don't be overly long winded and the frequency adjustment issue isn't a
> problem. You don't have to use CAT control at all, especially on full
> duplex setups!
>
> I'd use the existing 706 for transmit, and the 817 for receive. The
> previous issue then becomes moot. Take a laptop and the 817 and an
> arrow for portable half duplex fun. I do this for hamfest demos and
> while on vacation, and it never fails to please. Matter of fact I just
> bought a used eee netbook for a lighter source of prediction and
> Doppler correction.
Ok, well that is the way I have been doing it.. I find controlling the
antenna the biggest issue, just though having two on a rotator would
improve the Downlink, as I have issues hear it sometime.. and controling
the radio?
Do you have any photo's of your portable setup?
Thanks for your time..
Chris
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:16:32 -0500
From: "KC2PCR" <kc2pcr@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 V/u
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Sounds like you may have heard me on AO-51 yesterday- kc2pcr
" Strong unintelligible signals for the most part" could have been me tx in
USB because that's what it sounded like coming back to me too, then I
switched to try LSB and BAMM! I was in there pretty solid & fairly clear,
but it was late in the pass so I couldn't hold it for only a moment or two.
I didn't hear anyone else in there however Dave KB2MPU helped me get my
TS-520 with 2m tv-502 transverter dialed in prior to the pass was also on
freq listening and he told me afterwards he copied a few stations calling.
LSB seemed to repeat clear verses USB which came back to me garbled.
Take care & 73 doug kc2pcr
Message: 5
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:33:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Lockhart <gary_lockhart33@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 V/u usb
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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435.150 FM
145.880 USB
What did I get wrong? Strong unintelligible signals for the most part except
toward the end from KC2BR. Wrong sideband? Help.
73, Gary AB3ID
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:38:02 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 telemetry 1335 utc 4 March2009
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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<5d8cecfe0903041038sa8df2f8v92eaa698b4b71159@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I saw the same issue that Alan did, same pass. Here is what I grabbed
(in it's ugly, un-edited form!)
____________
-44877-45053(!.20-47789-40000-49914
-5002)-5176/:8(,45.24)00-
"100#57000-50080-59849
-006-025&;-77-02547-0071/;-060547(
7KQ""-00610WTU71-02548LLYQPOPWXVAQMIQMUO-5472
(/9;;121-#53-482?;
TOJWQ-07827-00000-09907
-10000-11769-12229-13625-1
603-159#-13418-173.4-10000-19148
-20483-2191--22838-236&;-2427-VUVVXLNVV09
GWAPVM-.&8,KMXRVOMAP
OQRTFTVTTAG
RMP5-;.
;TTTPXMTMAVOTEA
TMTBVOOVKMTMXMKK7V ZM/#VAMPGVMOTAQRYPMPKV#MI TWO-TMNPLOZVEVVMNOPVTQT9T2;.#57
97MV MUGKVMQTBMXAMLTWTTYQTTOMWVMVOTVOTNTMVXVMOV
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9VKTVOQQKCPO72/:/ BTMXVOOTCFVAFTMXPAOXOTVP167-00610-02547
-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547
-00365-01916-02890-03867-04629-05040-06910-07904-0PP-09664
-10000-11770-12262-13669-14603-15937-16414-17383-10000-19138
-20483-21911-22901-23884-24626-25040-26887-27881-20000-29658
-30018-31000-32000-33483-34000-35226-36256-37295-30000-39252
-40501-41914-42911-43898-44625-45039-46921-47915-40000-49662
-50024-51766-52330-53009-54000-55000-56000-57000-50000-59854
-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547
2#
PQPK VOGUUVUCUJYU-011087167
,0-025
7'#1210257
-00365-01875-02890-03893-04652-05037-06862-07904-000;0-09696
-10000-11770-12338-13715-14603-15937-1644
17.71M8&1ACMI V-2140-22901-23903-24683-25035?-26814-27882-20000-29722
-30000-31000-32000-344-3400:(,
ZWNDRUQP)34-4)7BKDARPPPP-49751
-50000-51766&-5
330-)3009-54000-55000-56000-57000-50000-59858
-#0601114' -02547?-00610-02547-00610-02547
-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547-00610-02547
-00366-017-)"90;''0"43
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0;/".'9-160)5(!#&DMOJBWSVCBXFNJQUBQ50?&(2004;;2:''?.10/!WSHDVQMMQKY
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3;30-9 PIO-010(587WSSPBA/H
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73,
Mark N8MH
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:05:14 -0600
> From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ?AO-7 telemetry 1335 utc 4 March2009
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Message-ID: <C84D3AC5E1834D4890EA633DC1E39C43@xxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; ? ? ? charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> >From the 1335 UTC 4 March pass. ?Early on, the signal sounded FMish, but
> cleared up later.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:52:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Nader Omer <st2nh@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] More Fun with old lady (AO-7) !!!
To: amsat bb bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <734766.24628.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi all
Still AO-7 satellite in mode-D pumps a very strong RTTY data.
The downlink frequency is 435.105 + - doppler usb.
Parameters 45 BAUD, 85 SHIFT.
AO-7 Teletype Equations Conversions table found on AMSAT NEWSLETTER 1974on
page
9 there is a table for conversion the AO_7 teletype telemetery data .
Here is a link to this old copy
http://www.ka9q.net/AMSAT-Newsletter-1974.pdf
Mike DK3WN is working now on a new software to decode the RTTY.
This wll make the fun more easy to newbies and old timer.
tnx Mike.
Today I was able to decode the following data.
Orbit # 56,962
16:44 - 17:07 UTC
-01909-02588-03894-04870-05038-06904-07535-00000-09913-10000-11770-
12338-13710-14603-15937-16426-17398-10000-19146-20484-21909-22627-
23874-24878-25038-26885-27627-20000-29909-30000-31000-32000-33487-
34000-35229-36230-37220-30000-39253-40501-41912-42680-43840-44882-
45042-46921-47667-40000-4991h( WPPPP-51759-52325-53009-54000-55000-
56000-57000-50000-59851-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-
04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612V-04057-
00367-01916-02723-03767-04874-05027-06908-07692-00000-09909-10000-
11764-12331-13711-14603-15936-16424-17396-10000-19145-20484-21910-
22713-23750-2487"(,"0! I-27747-20000-29907-30000-31000-32000-33483-
34000-35234-36234-37232-30000-39254-40501-41915-42790-43734-44882-
45018-46922-47803-40000-49920-50000-51766--55000-56000-57000-50000-
59850-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-
00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-04057-00612-040578,/1717-
02797-03632-04873-05018-06908-07848-00000-09909-10000-11769-12337-
13699-14603-15937-16409-17390-10000-19123-20484-21911-22796-23563-
24875-25018-26885-27844-280 .--5988-30000-31064-32000-33496-34000-
35234-36242-37249-30000-39255-40501-41915-42883-43625-44880-45017-
46921-7888-40000-4991
Snapshot
http://www.st2nh.com/AO-7RTTYBEACON482009.JPG/AO-7RTTYBEACON482009-
full;init:.JP\
G
73's de Nader
www.st2nh.com
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:12:39 -0600
From: "charter" <willmarbrowns@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale: AOP-1 antenna
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <95A03B8D9D3C413EBCEE7698A0C27D4C@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I have for sale a new in the box AOP-1 antenna. Never assembled.
Comes with A144-20T, 20 element 2 mtr beam. 416-TB, 16 element 70cm beam.
Phasing harness for both antennas. cross boom and U-100/110 rotor mounting
plate.
All hardware for antennas. Instruction sheets. $225.00 shipped to your door.
Payment by money order or certified check. 73...
Please reply to:
Bruce ke0lx
willmarbrowns@xxxxxxx.xxx
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