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Today's Topics:
1. Sumbandila satellite info. (G0MRF@xxx.xxxx
2. QSL card graphics (Tim Goodrich)
3. Re: [OT] Urgent request - probably off-topic but please
read... (Nate Duehr)
4. Nate's Posting about Aviation (lstenzel@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
5. CO-65 GMSK schedule in March 2009 (Mineo Wakita)
6. I: CO-65 GMSK schedule in March 2009 (Francesco Grappi)
7. Re: [OT] Urgent request - probably off-topic but please
read... (Jim Jerzycke)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:01:36 EST
From: G0MRF@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sumbandila satellite info.
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <c81.47cc14dd.36d88760@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
A power point presentation on this soon to be launched South African
satellite can be downloaded from
_http://www.amateurradio.org.za/Sumbandila_Intecnet.pdf_
(http://www.amateurradio.org.za/Sumbandila_Intecnet.pdf)
The presentation is by Dr Gert-Jan van Rooyen, ZS1GVR and is dated 22nd Feb
2009.
The 80kg satellite includes an AO-51 type VHF up and UHF down repeater as a
secondary payload.
Launch may be as early as the end of March.
Regards
David
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:08:49 -0800
From: "Tim Goodrich" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] QSL card graphics
To: "Tim Goodrich" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <02f101c9984e$0b970f10$22c52d30$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi all,
I am in the process of designing my own QSL cards. I need a source for
several (images/graphics files, including:
1) The ARRL logo
2) The standard box where you write in the details of the QSO (time,
date, freq, signal report, etc.)
3) Anything else that would be standard on a QSL card
If anyone can help me locate these images on the internet or email me
directly with them, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Tim
KI6VBY
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:05:35 -0700
From: "Nate Duehr" <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [OT] Urgent request - probably off-topic but
please read...
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1235714735.28373.1302671245@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Folks, I am not a spammer by trade or by choice in normal
circumstances, but I BEG of you to please read this.
If you are even a SMALL enthusiast of Aviation, Aerospace or anything
related to breaking the surly bonds of earth and reaching skyward,
PLEASE take a moment, I beg of you.
To my friends and members of:
Boulder, CO Linux Users Group
Colorado Linux Users and Enthusiasts
Rocky Mountain VHF+ Amateur Radio Group
Colorado D-STAR Association
Grand Mesa Contesters of Colorado
Amateur Radio Satellite Corporation and Mailing List
Repeater-Builder Mailing List
MIT PIC Microcontroller Mailing List
Yaesu FT-857 Mailing List
VHF Contesting Remailer Mailing List
The Internet Radio Radio Linking Project
The D-STAR Digital List
And other friends and acquaintances who will receive this message
privately... and anyone you care to forward it to...
Tonight on my way home I fired up my iPod to listen to a podcast by
well-known and very well-spoken Steven "Force" Tupper, an aviation
enthusiast from Michigan. What I heard chilled my heart to the bone.
The TSA under the auspices of "Homeland Security" has floated a
proposal to restrict and in my opinion, DESTROY numerous legendary
aircraft, by limiting their use so heavily that you will never see
them in the skies over America again. While this may sound
"alarmist", please trust me, it's not.
You all know me, and know that I can write well, expressing my
concerns with politics, living, and even the banal things of life in
words, fairly well -- but I can not possibly top the writing of Mr.
Tupper.
Even more eloquent is his VOICE in his podcast, where he perfectly
expresses the frustration, and sheer TERROR that the TSA itself has
brought down on the United State's Aviation community with the
proposal they've recently released, inappropriately entitled, the
"Large Aircraft Security Program", or LASP.
For the best and most intelligent commentary I've heard on the topic
to date -- PLEASE ... LISTEN to his podcast at:
<http://media.libsyn.com/media/airspeed/AirspeedLASP.mp3>
You really must just hear... his voice. I do hope his server can
handle an onslaught -- if it can't, wait, and listen later.
(I fully intend to help him with the costs associated with
distributing his podcast if he needs it this month, it's just that
important. Steve, please let me know if you need assistance. I have
worked in data centers and web-based businesses, and I understand that
publishing these things online to large numbers of people, is NOT free.)
It's just over 30 minutes in length, and he NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT -- even
if you are NOT a pilot. He gives instructions in the podcast.
If you honestly do NOT have time to listen, at least READ and RESPOND
to his letter in response to the TSA's Notice of Proposed Rulemaking.
He needs your input by TOMORROW. The entire text of his podcast is
also available at the link below, if you read faster than you listen
-- so to speak.
<http://airspeedonline.blogspot.com/2009/02/large-aircraft-security-program-
capt.html
>
If this non-legislative rule change comes to pass, you and your family
may never SEE many historical aircraft or have an opportunity to
purchase a RIDE in any classic "warbird" aircraft in the skies over
America ever again. The rule is BROAD and affects modern aircraft
also, but the aircraft we will miss the most, are the ones of our
history that tell our story as a country.
To NOT take action and RESPOND means that you've let a small group of
tireless aviation historians, restoration specialists, mechanics,
pilots, and everyone who's ever watched an airshow with aircraft from
the classic Warbird fleet down. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT.
PLEASE read or listen. Mr. Tupper explains it far better than I
possibly can. The TSA's proposal adds NO security to our nation
whatsoever. It's simply government run amok.
Here's a list from Mr. Tupper's website, of aircraft that I personally
believe you will RARELY see in the skies of America again, if the
TSA's "LASP" passes into being without even so much as a single
legislator overseeing it, and little to no due-process available to
anyone who violates it.
Aircraft and Max Takeoff Weight (Varies within Type)
Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress - 65,500
Chance Vought F4U Corsair - 14,449
Consolidated B-24 Liberator - 65,000
Curtiss C-46 Commando - 48,000
Curtiss SB2C Helldiver - 16,800
Douglas A-26 Invader - 35,000
Douglas DC-3/C-47 Skytrain/Dakota - 31,000
Douglas B-23 Dragon - 32,400
Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar - 64,000
Fairchild C-82 Packet - 54,000
Ford Tri-Motor - 13,500
Grumman AF-2S Guardian - 25,500
Grumman Avenger - 17,893
Grumman F6F Hellcat - 15,415
Grumman F8F Bearcat - 12,947
Grumman HU-16 Albatross - 33,000
Grumman G-73 Mallard - 12,750
Junkers Ju 52 - 24,200
Lockheed C-60 Hudson - 18,500
Lockheed L-18 Lodestar - 17,500
Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon - 31,077
Lockheed T-33 - 15,100
North American B-25 Mitchell - 41,800
North American P-82 Twin Mustang - 25,591
PBY-6A Catalina - 64,450
Republic P-47 Thunderbolt - 17,500
You may not be a pilot, you may not even care about ANY aircraft --
but if you care about the pilots who fly them, the mechanics who
wrench on them, the crowds at hundreds of airshows across the country
who see them, and the thousands of thousands who lived their lives
building an American legacy in Aviation -- one of our best legacies
ever -- please follow Mr. Tupper's request, and add your name to the
list of people who AGREE with him in his response to the NPRM sent out
by the TSA.
I, like you, am a busy person -- I had other things to do tonight. I
would much have preferred an enjoyable evening pursuing other things.
Hell, I would rather have just forwarded you all a few jokes or stayed
"on-topic" on our favorite mailing lists, but I can not sit by idle
and watch this come to pass.
Mr. Tupper needs your support no later than mid-day tomorrow, please
listen, read and RESPOND.
Thank you for your time, and I apologize if this is FAR off-topic for
some of the mailing lists you all know me from. Some lists, it's more
on-topic than others. This is so aggregious, so saddening, so
frustrating, that I just HAD to share. Like Mr. Tupper -- I'm trying
hard to keep this message "PG Rated". VERY hard.
I just can't think of any more caring, thoughtful people in all of the
other hobbies and passions of my life to share this critical
information with, and to BEG for your support of Mr. Tupper's letter
in response to the TSA. Mr. Tupper also points out that the rule
isn't far from encompassing other iconic aircraft, and says that if
the TSA enacts this rule and LOWERS the weight limitations low enough
to encompass such iconic aircraft as the North American P-51
"Mustang", then... as he so eloquently puts it:
"Be very careful. You might get away with decimating other grand dames
of the skies, but every redneck, suit, line worker, banker,
lumberjack, lawyer, cop, fireman, landscaper, fast-food cashier, and
child able to stand recognizes the mighty P-51 Mustang. Not that
aviation would fail to miss the other aircraft that the TSA would so
cavalierly tear from the sky, but at least we have the P-51 Mustang
still guarding the 12,100-pound boundary."
Thank you deeply from the bottom of my heart if you take the time to
listen or read, and especially if you will send your full name as a
U.S. Citizen to Mr. Tupper with your comments.
Aviation is one of my deepest passions, and I can't imagine that even
the most disinterested person in Aviation would let these great ships
of our past be virtually banned from our skies in a single powerful
and misguided attempt at "security" over liberty, in this great country.
Enjoy the rest of your evening in peace, please help, and thank you
again.
--
Nathan Duehr, nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Private Pilot, Single-Engine Land (since 1991)
Aircraft Owners and Pilot's Association Member (since 1992)
Amateur Radio Extra-Class Operator (WY0X - since 1991)
Current President, Colorado Repeater Association
Former Secretary, Colorado Council of Amateur Radio Clubs
Former Member, USAF Auxiliary - Civil Air Patrol
Linux, Electronics, and RF enthusiast ...
... Or however else you know me.
--
Nate Duehr
nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:06:46 +0000
From: lstenzel@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nate's Posting about Aviation
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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04040A0DBF040A96020A9B9C04@xxx.xxx>
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Nate's posting involves far more than saving historical aircraft. In my 49
years as an Amateur Radio Operator and 40 years as a pilot including military
and commercial flying and teaching professional aviation at major university,
I have found that many hams are pilots or at least use and enjoy small
aircraft from time to time. I think this issue does apply to many on this
board.
General aviation is hanging on by its fingernails, and there are tax and
regulatory measures being considered that will affect not only the large
aircraft but also regulate and tax even the small aircraft that many of us
enjoy. These measures will further hobble an economically vulnerable but
vital industry. Aviation is always the first to feel an economic downturn and
the last to recover, but when draconian security measures are added to the
stress, the matter is serious. Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA)
has a very competent website where you can keep up with these issues in an
informed, objective and unemotional way (www.aopa.org).
Leroy Stenzel, W5VG
AMSAT #2916
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:59:04 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CO-65 GMSK schedule in March 2009
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <D0C998E38D2521ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
GMSK is now scheduled on every weekend over the world wide.
You can digipeat via CO-65 9k6 GMSK.
Up 1267.600MHz / Down 437.475MHz, 9k6 GMSK
Unproto APRS via JQ1YTC
According to the information of Ground Station,
> Open schedule of digipeater mission in March are as follows:
>
> 2/28(Sat)12:29 - 3/02(Mon) 0:38
> 3/06(Fri)12:57 - 3/09(Mon) 1:13
> 3/14(Sat) 1:23 - 3/16(Mon) 0:12
> 3/20(Fri)12:31 - 3/23(Mon) 0:46
> 3/27(Fri)11:30 - 3/30(Mon) 1:22
> Coordinate Universal Time, UTC
>
> Digipeater will be closed OFF during the day which does not
> listed above. Thank you for your understanding.
>
> It is assumed to discontinue opening digipeter to give priority
> to other missions in March.
> In this case, we are going to inform it again.
> We would appreciate your cooperation. Thank you.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ct17gmsk.htm
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:16:29 +0100
From: "Francesco Grappi" <f.grappi@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] I: CO-65 GMSK schedule in March 2009
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000601c998f6$c08b4820$41a1d860$@xxxxxx@xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Mineo, JE9PEL
I have some Fo-29 telemetry files, can you give me
e-mail address where I could send these files ?
73"
Frank IW4DVZ
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Per
> conto di Mineo Wakita
> Inviato: venerd? 27 febbraio 2009 14.59
> A: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Oggetto: [amsat-bb] CO-65 GMSK schedule in March 2009
>
> GMSK is now scheduled on every weekend over the world wide.
> You can digipeat via CO-65 9k6 GMSK.
>
> Up 1267.600MHz / Down 437.475MHz, 9k6 GMSK
> Unproto APRS via JQ1YTC
>
> According to the information of Ground Station,
> > Open schedule of digipeater mission in March are as follows:
> >
> > 2/28(Sat)12:29 - 3/02(Mon) 0:38
> > 3/06(Fri)12:57 - 3/09(Mon) 1:13
> > 3/14(Sat) 1:23 - 3/16(Mon) 0:12
> > 3/20(Fri)12:31 - 3/23(Mon) 0:46
> > 3/27(Fri)11:30 - 3/30(Mon) 1:22
> > Coordinate Universal Time, UTC
> >
> > Digipeater will be closed OFF during the day which does not
> > listed above. Thank you for your understanding.
> >
> > It is assumed to discontinue opening digipeter to give priority
> > to other missions in March.
> > In this case, we are going to inform it again.
> > We would appreciate your cooperation. Thank you.
>
> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ct17gmsk.htm
>
> JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
>
> _______________________________________________
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> author.
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------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:02:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [OT] Urgent request - probably off-topic but
please read...
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Nate Duehr <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <571574.17313.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Thanks for the heads-up, Nate. I agree that General Aviation and old warbirds
are well worth defending. I'm a member of the CAF and donate to the Chino
"Planes of Fame" museum. Once a historical aircraft, or regional airport are
gone, they're gone forever.
There's an excellent DVD called "One Six Right" that has a section on what
happened to Meigs Field in Chicago.
73, Jim KQ6EA
--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Nate Duehr <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Nate Duehr <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [OT] Urgent request - probably off-topic but please
read...
> To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:05 PM
> Folks, I am not a spammer by trade or by choice in normal
> circumstances, but I BEG of you to please read this.
>
> If you are even a SMALL enthusiast of Aviation, Aerospace
> or anything
> related to breaking the surly bonds of earth and reaching
> skyward,
> PLEASE take a moment, I beg of you.
>
> To my friends and members of:
>
> Boulder, CO Linux Users Group
> Colorado Linux Users and Enthusiasts
> Rocky Mountain VHF+ Amateur Radio Group
> Colorado D-STAR Association
> Grand Mesa Contesters of Colorado
> Amateur Radio Satellite Corporation and Mailing List
> Repeater-Builder Mailing List
> MIT PIC Microcontroller Mailing List
> Yaesu FT-857 Mailing List
> VHF Contesting Remailer Mailing List
> The Internet Radio Radio Linking Project
> The D-STAR Digital List
>
> And other friends and acquaintances who will receive this
> message
> privately... and anyone you care to forward it to...
>
> Tonight on my way home I fired up my iPod to listen to a
> podcast by
> well-known and very well-spoken Steven "Force"
> Tupper, an aviation
> enthusiast from Michigan. What I heard chilled my heart to
> the bone.
>
> The TSA under the auspices of "Homeland Security"
> has floated a
> proposal to restrict and in my opinion, DESTROY numerous
> legendary
> aircraft, by limiting their use so heavily that you will
> never see
> them in the skies over America again. While this may sound
>
> "alarmist", please trust me, it's not.
>
> You all know me, and know that I can write well, expressing
> my
> concerns with politics, living, and even the banal things
> of life in
> words, fairly well -- but I can not possibly top the
> writing of Mr.
> Tupper.
>
> Even more eloquent is his VOICE in his podcast, where he
> perfectly
> expresses the frustration, and sheer TERROR that the TSA
> itself has
> brought down on the United State's Aviation community
> with the
> proposal they've recently released, inappropriately
> entitled, the
> "Large Aircraft Security Program", or LASP.
>
> For the best and most intelligent commentary I've heard
> on the topic
> to date -- PLEASE ... LISTEN to his podcast at:
>
> <http://media.libsyn.com/media/airspeed/AirspeedLASP.mp3>
>
> You really must just hear... his voice. I do hope his
> server can
> handle an onslaught -- if it can't, wait, and listen
> later.
>
> (I fully intend to help him with the costs associated with
>
> distributing his podcast if he needs it this month,
> it's just that
> important. Steve, please let me know if you need
> assistance. I have
> worked in data centers and web-based businesses, and I
> understand that
> publishing these things online to large numbers of people,
> is NOT free.)
>
> It's just over 30 minutes in length, and he NEEDS YOUR
> SUPPORT -- even
> if you are NOT a pilot. He gives instructions in the
> podcast.
>
> If you honestly do NOT have time to listen, at least READ
> and RESPOND
> to his letter in response to the TSA's Notice of
> Proposed Rulemaking.
> He needs your input by TOMORROW. The entire text of his
> podcast is
> also available at the link below, if you read faster than
> you listen
> -- so to speak.
>
> <http://airspeedonline.blogspot.com/2009/02/large-aircraft-security-program-
capt.html
>
> >
>
> If this non-legislative rule change comes to pass, you and
> your family
> may never SEE many historical aircraft or have an
> opportunity to
> purchase a RIDE in any classic "warbird" aircraft
> in the skies over
> America ever again. The rule is BROAD and affects modern
> aircraft
> also, but the aircraft we will miss the most, are the ones
> of our
> history that tell our story as a country.
>
> To NOT take action and RESPOND means that you've let a
> small group of
> tireless aviation historians, restoration specialists,
> mechanics,
> pilots, and everyone who's ever watched an airshow with
> aircraft from
> the classic Warbird fleet down. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT.
>
> PLEASE read or listen. Mr. Tupper explains it far better
> than I
> possibly can. The TSA's proposal adds NO security to
> our nation
> whatsoever. It's simply government run amok.
>
> Here's a list from Mr. Tupper's website, of
> aircraft that I personally
> believe you will RARELY see in the skies of America again,
> if the
> TSA's "LASP" passes into being without even
> so much as a single
> legislator overseeing it, and little to no due-process
> available to
> anyone who violates it.
>
> Aircraft and Max Takeoff Weight (Varies within Type)
> Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress - 65,500
> Chance Vought F4U Corsair - 14,449
> Consolidated B-24 Liberator - 65,000
> Curtiss C-46 Commando - 48,000
> Curtiss SB2C Helldiver - 16,800
> Douglas A-26 Invader - 35,000
> Douglas DC-3/C-47 Skytrain/Dakota - 31,000
> Douglas B-23 Dragon - 32,400
> Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar - 64,000
> Fairchild C-82 Packet - 54,000
> Ford Tri-Motor - 13,500
> Grumman AF-2S Guardian - 25,500
> Grumman Avenger - 17,893
> Grumman F6F Hellcat - 15,415
> Grumman F8F Bearcat - 12,947
> Grumman HU-16 Albatross - 33,000
> Grumman G-73 Mallard - 12,750
> Junkers Ju 52 - 24,200
> Lockheed C-60 Hudson - 18,500
> Lockheed L-18 Lodestar - 17,500
> Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon - 31,077
> Lockheed T-33 - 15,100
> North American B-25 Mitchell - 41,800
> North American P-82 Twin Mustang - 25,591
> PBY-6A Catalina - 64,450
> Republic P-47 Thunderbolt - 17,500
>
> You may not be a pilot, you may not even care about ANY
> aircraft --
> but if you care about the pilots who fly them, the
> mechanics who
> wrench on them, the crowds at hundreds of airshows across
> the country
> who see them, and the thousands of thousands who lived
> their lives
> building an American legacy in Aviation -- one of our best
> legacies
> ever -- please follow Mr. Tupper's request, and add
> your name to the
> list of people who AGREE with him in his response to the
> NPRM sent out
> by the TSA.
>
> I, like you, am a busy person -- I had other things to do
> tonight. I
> would much have preferred an enjoyable evening pursuing
> other things.
> Hell, I would rather have just forwarded you all a few
> jokes or stayed
> "on-topic" on our favorite mailing lists, but I
> can not sit by idle
> and watch this come to pass.
>
> Mr. Tupper needs your support no later than mid-day
> tomorrow, please
> listen, read and RESPOND.
>
> Thank you for your time, and I apologize if this is FAR
> off-topic for
> some of the mailing lists you all know me from. Some
> lists, it's more
> on-topic than others. This is so aggregious, so saddening,
> so
> frustrating, that I just HAD to share. Like Mr. Tupper --
> I'm trying
> hard to keep this message "PG Rated". VERY hard.
>
> I just can't think of any more caring, thoughtful
> people in all of the
> other hobbies and passions of my life to share this
> critical
> information with, and to BEG for your support of Mr.
> Tupper's letter
> in response to the TSA. Mr. Tupper also points out that
> the rule
> isn't far from encompassing other iconic aircraft, and
> says that if
> the TSA enacts this rule and LOWERS the weight limitations
> low enough
> to encompass such iconic aircraft as the North American
> P-51
> "Mustang", then... as he so eloquently puts it:
>
> "Be very careful. You might get away with decimating
> other grand dames
> of the skies, but every redneck, suit, line worker, banker,
>
> lumberjack, lawyer, cop, fireman, landscaper, fast-food
> cashier, and
> child able to stand recognizes the mighty P-51 Mustang. Not
> that
> aviation would fail to miss the other aircraft that the TSA
> would so
> cavalierly tear from the sky, but at least we have the P-51
> Mustang
> still guarding the 12,100-pound boundary."
>
> Thank you deeply from the bottom of my heart if you take
> the time to
> listen or read, and especially if you will send your full
> name as a
> U.S. Citizen to Mr. Tupper with your comments.
>
> Aviation is one of my deepest passions, and I can't
> imagine that even
> the most disinterested person in Aviation would let these
> great ships
> of our past be virtually banned from our skies in a single
> powerful
> and misguided attempt at "security" over liberty,
> in this great country.
>
> Enjoy the rest of your evening in peace, please help, and
> thank you
> again.
>
> --
> Nathan Duehr, nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx
>
> Private Pilot, Single-Engine Land (since 1991)
> Aircraft Owners and Pilot's Association Member (since
> 1992)
> Amateur Radio Extra-Class Operator (WY0X - since 1991)
> Current President, Colorado Repeater Association
> Former Secretary, Colorado Council of Amateur Radio Clubs
> Former Member, USAF Auxiliary - Civil Air Patrol
> Linux, Electronics, and RF enthusiast ...
> ... Or however else you know me.
> --
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