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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Scratch two sats (Mark L. Hammond)
2. Re: Scratch two sats (Bruce Bostwick)
3. Posting 12 messages to ISS in single pass (nader omer)
4. Out of the Office (Martha)
5. KP5 Desecheo DXpedition on satellite (Andrew Glasbrenner)
6. Re: KP5 Desecheo DXpedition on satellite (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
7. too many satellites ? (Alan Sieg WB5RMG)
8. AO-7 web site (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
9. Re: too many satellites ? (Nate Duehr)
10. Re: too many satellites ? (Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR])
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:47:25 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Scratch two sats
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<5d8cecfe0902120547h6125523fj54b63a0dab673e6b@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Maybe the peices will bump into the orbiting Shuttle tool bag and
become repaired :)
73,
Mark N8MH
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:22:29 -0500
> From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Scratch two sats
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Message-ID: <E7445281337C41719D650C3BFACEE08B@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090211/ap_on_sc/satellite_collision
>
> Iridium versus a Russian satellite, I wonder who'll get the ticket.
>
> 73, Drew
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:03:23 -0600
From: Bruce Bostwick <lihan161051@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Scratch two sats
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <3957B27E-74D9-4C83-9A64-C8C2B60A93CD@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
I often wonder about this. Are the debris clouds in orbits with low
enough perigees that drag will bring down at least the smaller bits
over a period of time, or are these HEO orbits where this debris will
be there for the next few thousand years? Just curious ..
On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090211/ap_on_sc/satellite_collision
>
> Iridium versus a Russian satellite, I wonder who'll get the ticket.
>
> 73, Drew
>
> CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Two big communications satellites collided in
> the
> first-ever crash of two intact spacecraft in orbit, shooting out a
> pair of
> massive debris clouds and posing a slight risk to the international
> space
> station.
>
> NASA said it will take weeks to determine the full magnitude of the
> crash,
> which occurred nearly 500 miles over Siberia on Tuesday.
>
> "We knew this was going to happen eventually," said Mark Matney, an
> orbital
> debris scientist at Johnson Space Center in Houston.
>
> NASA believes any risk to the space station and its three astronauts
> is low.
> It orbits about 270 miles below the collision course. There also
> should be
> no danger to the space shuttle set to launch with seven astronauts
> on Feb.
> 22, officials said, but that will be re-evaluated in the coming days.
>
> The collision involved an Iridium commercial satellite, which was
> launched
> in 1997, and a Russian satellite launched in 1993 and believed to be
> nonfunctioning. The Russian satellite was out of control, Matney said.
>
> The Iridium craft weighed 1,235 pounds, and the Russian craft nearly
> a ton.
>
> No one has any idea yet how many pieces were generated or how big
> they might
> be.
>
> "Right now, they're definitely counting dozens," Matney said. "I would
> suspect that they'll be counting hundreds when the counting is done."
>
> As for pieces the size of micrometers, the count will likely be in the
> thousands, he added.
>
> [...]
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:25:01 -0800 (PST)
From: nader omer <st2nh@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Posting 12 messages to ISS in single pass
To: amsat bb bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <685740.27942.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
?
Hello All
?
Today 12/02/2009 at 14:40 to 14:50 UTC
?I have broken by previous record of posting ?9 messages in one
pass to ISS BBS by posting 12 messages??to international space station
BBS , I have sent 12 messages to 11 hams they had a post on ISS
?
stations are:-
?
PD0RKC
EB1IAT
LW5DGM
CX1AQN
VE2HAR
EB5AGV
CS1RAD
VK2MAL
HS3LSE
E20YJC (1st message )
E20YJC (2nd message)
DL6SDA
?
?
setup
Rig ic-910
ante-homebrew yagi
homebrew soundcard interface
software- UISS
?
.
here is a copy of the UISS communication window
------------------------------------------
Welcome to RS0ISS's message board
System Ver 1.50 103554 Bytes free
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w PD0RKC
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w EB1IAT
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w LW5DGM
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w CX1AQN
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w VE2HAR
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w EB5AGV
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w CS1RAD
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w VK2MAL
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w HS3LSE
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w E20YJC
Subject:
hi
Message:
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w E20YJC
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
Thank you for your message.
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w DL6SDA
Subject:
hi
Welcome to RS0ISS's message board
System Ver 1.50 102352 Bytes free
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w DL6SDA
Subject:
hi
Welcome to RS0ISS's message board
System Ver 1.50 102352 Bytes free
CMD(F/K/M/R/W/B/H/?)>
w DL6SDA
Subject:
hi
Message:
tnx OM for the iss message
pse qsl via ea7ftr
73 de Nader
www.st2nh.com
/ex
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Nader , st2nh
www.st2nh.com
Packet Radio
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:24:57 -0500
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Out of the Office
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>,
officers@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<956751cf0902120824h4d80080dg5d858309913be32b@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I will be out of the office Friday, February 13th and Monday, February
16th. The office will reopen Tuesday at 10:00AM ET
--
73- Martha
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:44:56 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] KP5 Desecheo DXpedition on satellite
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "ans-editor" <ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <6EEB8EA6DBA046779E10634165659D19@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Updates from www.kp5.us indicate that at least part of the team is now on
Desecheo, and will soon begin HF operations as K5D. Thanks to the support of
AMSAT-NA, the team is equipped with a Kenwood D7 HT and Arrow antenna, as
well as training on using the FM satellites. AMSAT-NA would like to thank
Doug Faunt N6TQS, Tim Lilley N3TL, and Patrick Stoddard, WD7EWK for their
generous donations of equipment for this and future DXpedition, as well as
Keith Pugh, W5IU for training assistance.
Satellite operation is not expected to begin until the second half of the
DXpedition, and then only on an as available basis. A second repeater on
AO-51 (145.88/435.150) will be activated on February 16th and
reserved -only- for contacts with K5D while within sight of the island. K5D
may be active on either AO-51 repeater, SO-50 or the ISS voice repeater
modes if available. Operation on the transponder satellites is not expected
unfortunately. Outside of range of Desecheo, users are encouraged to operate
under the standard AO-51 QRP rules. These guidelines are 10 watts output or
less, to omnidirectional or handheld antennas only. Telemetry collection
operations on AO-51 will occasionally interrupt the 435.150 downlink on US
west coast passes not in range of Desecheo.
Users attempting contact with K5D should be aware the the DXpedition does
not wish to exchange grid squares during the QSO in order to allow more
operators the chance for a QSO. Their grid square is FK68, same as most of
Puerto Rico. Please be courteous and limit yourself to one QSO. Logs are
expected to be available online at http://www.kp5.us/ . Many prolific
DXpeditioners are on this trip, and a positive experience with satellite may
result in increased participation by future expeditions.
Good Luck on working a new one on satellite!
73, Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Operations
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:54:34 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: KP5 Desecheo DXpedition on satellite
To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "ans-editor" <ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<021220091754.122.4994625A0006E2220000007A22218683269B0A02D2089B9A019C04
040A0DBF049BCC02@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
Drew,
Thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to - I hope - getting my one
contact with them sometime next week.
Thanks, too, for the effort to assemble loaner gear that other folks might
consider using to include satellite operation in future trips to rare spots. I
think it's pretty cool!
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
-------------- Original message from "Andrew Glasbrenner"
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: --------------
> Updates from www.kp5.us indicate that at least part of the team is now on
> Desecheo, and will soon begin HF operations as K5D. Thanks to the support of
> AMSAT-NA, the team is equipped with a Kenwood D7 HT and Arrow antenna, as
> well as training on using the FM satellites. AMSAT-NA would like to thank
> Doug Faunt N6TQS, Tim Lilley N3TL, and Patrick Stoddard, WD7EWK for their
> generous donations of equipment for this and future DXpedition, as well as
> Keith Pugh, W5IU for training assistance.
>
> Satellite operation is not expected to begin until the second half of the
> DXpedition, and then only on an as available basis. A second repeater on
> AO-51 (145.88/435.150) will be activated on February 16th and
> reserved -only- for contacts with K5D while within sight of the island. K5D
> may be active on either AO-51 repeater, SO-50 or the ISS voice repeater
> modes if available. Operation on the transponder satellites is not expected
> unfortunately. Outside of range of Desecheo, users are encouraged to operate
> under the standard AO-51 QRP rules. These guidelines are 10 watts output or
> less, to omnidirectional or handheld antennas only. Telemetry collection
> operations on AO-51 will occasionally interrupt the 435.150 downlink on US
> west coast passes not in range of Desecheo.
>
> Users attempting contact with K5D should be aware the the DXpedition does
> not wish to exchange grid squares during the QSO in order to allow more
> operators the chance for a QSO. Their grid square is FK68, same as most of
> Puerto Rico. Please be courteous and limit yourself to one QSO. Logs are
> expected to be available online at http://www.kp5.us/ . Many prolific
> DXpeditioners are on this trip, and a positive experience with satellite may
> result in increased participation by future expeditions.
>
> Good Luck on working a new one on satellite!
>
> 73, Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
> AMSAT-NA VP Operations
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:35:17 -0600 (CST)
From: "Alan Sieg WB5RMG" <wb5rmg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] too many satellites ?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <3916.198.119.224.78.1234463717.squirrel@xxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
Timely image... after yesterday's crash.
Todays's 'Image of the Day' shows the cloud of satellites about earth.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/312941main_Bee-Hive-1_H1_full.jpg
(This is a large image) It is apparently getting a little crowded up there.
The SatScape program can provide a similar view if you zoom out far enough.
For the detailed writeup, and other sizes check the main URL for IOTD...
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/iotd.html
(After today, this one will be in the recent pics collection)
Enjoy /;^)
--
<- Licensed in 1976, WB5RMG = Alan Sieg * AMSAT#20554 ->
<- http://www.somenet.net * http://wb5rmg.somenet.net ->
<- http://www.linkedin.com/in/alansieg * My 'Day Job' ->
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:44:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 web site
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<1600457784.1098101234464243177.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx
.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Anyone have success with the AO-7 web site?? No connect here.
73 Bob W7LRD
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:49:19 -0700
From: "Nate Duehr" <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: too many satellites ?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004a01c98d42$9d0d43e0$d727cba0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
"The debris objects shown in the images are an artist's impression based on
actual density data. However, the debris objects are shown at an exaggerated
size to make them visible at the scale shown."
Yeah, big time...
The exaggerated scale makes it look at lot more obnoxious than it really is.
But you know the "press" will have this one up on TV sooner or later, and
won't explain that factor of it at all.
Nate WY0X
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan Sieg WB5RMG
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:35 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] too many satellites ?
Timely image... after yesterday's crash.
Todays's 'Image of the Day' shows the cloud of satellites about earth.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/312941main_Bee-Hive-1_H1_full.jpg
(This is a large image) It is apparently getting a little crowded up there.
The SatScape program can provide a similar view if you zoom out far enough.
For the detailed writeup, and other sizes check the main URL for IOTD...
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/iotd.html
(After today, this one will be in the recent pics collection)
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:39:10 -0600
From: "Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]" <Kenneth.G.Ransom@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: too many satellites ?
To: Nate Duehr <nate@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<CBB2346C58D9B14983E5AEFE4B34588631481EB89C@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The dots in this version are smaller.
http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/jtrack/3d/JTrack3D.html
Kenneth - N5VHO
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf
Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:49 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: too many satellites ?
"The debris objects shown in the images are an artist's impression based on
actual density data. However, the debris objects are shown at an exaggerated
size to make them visible at the scale shown."
Yeah, big time...
The exaggerated scale makes it look at lot more obnoxious than it really is.
But you know the "press" will have this one up on TV sooner or later, and
won't explain that factor of it at all.
Nate WY0X
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan Sieg WB5RMG
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:35 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] too many satellites ?
Timely image... after yesterday's crash.
Todays's 'Image of the Day' shows the cloud of satellites about earth.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/312941main_Bee-Hive-1_H1_full.jpg
(This is a large image) It is apparently getting a little crowded up there.
The SatScape program can provide a similar view if you zoom out far enough.
For the detailed writeup, and other sizes check the main URL for IOTD...
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/iotd.html
(After today, this one will be in the recent pics collection)
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