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Today's Topics:
1. Re: How About This? (Art McBride)
2. Re: How About This? (Peter Guelzow)
3. Re: How About This? (Gregg Wonderly)
4. Satellite tracking for Nokia N800/810 (Wayne Estes)
5. Re: The future of AMSAT is NOW . . . (George Henry)
6. Re: Was HEO naivete; now GEO rideshare frequency choice, etc.
(Rocky Jones)
7. Re: Satellite tracking for Nokia N800/810 (George Henry)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:45:21 -0800
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How About This?
To: "'Joe'" <nss@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Joe,
Make sure it has several transponders and make it a real HEO!
Art, KC6UQH
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Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:07 AM
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Subject: [amsat-bb] How About This?
How about running after this?
http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:49:14 +0100
From: Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How About This?
To: Dave <dave@xxxxxx.xxx>
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We already looked into it and pre-registered at an early stage.
Unfortunately the guide lines are not compatible with ham radio, for
example exclusive encrypted commercial transmissions, etc..
Thus we decided to be in "observer" status for the time being... At
the moment we are busy with P3-E and P5-A anyway...
73s Peter DB2OS
Dave wrote:
> Indeed! A worthy project that would endow AMSAT for years. AMSAT has the
> brains and resources; an idea we should pursue. I vote yea.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe" <nss@xxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:06 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] How About This?
>
>
>
>> How about running after this?
>> http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:05:48 -0600
From: Gregg Wonderly <w5ggw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How About This?
To: Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>
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Peter Guelzow wrote:
> We already looked into it and pre-registered at an early stage.
> Unfortunately the guide lines are not compatible with ham radio, for
> example exclusive encrypted commercial transmissions, etc..
> Thus we decided to be in "observer" status for the time being... At
> the moment we are busy with P3-E and P5-A anyway...
So the craft couldn't carry HAM equipment for a secondary function of the
craft?
Gregg Wonderly
W5GGW
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:25:19 -0600
From: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking for Nokia N800/810
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I recently ordered a Nokia N810 "internet tablet". It's a pocket-sized
computer with a 400 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP2420 processor running a
stripped-down version of Linux called "Maemo". It's open source, of
course, and a community of enthusiasts develops software for this
platform. Unfortunately, the maemo.org software index does not list a
satellite tracking program.
What are the practical options to put a satellite tracking program on a
Nokia N810? The display is 800x480 pixels, much larger than most
"palmtop" computers. Is there an existing Linux satellite tracking
program that might work with Maemo Linux if I install the necessary
libraries? Or should I try a Palm OS emulator and use something like
PocketSat that is designed for a much smaller display? Any other
emulation options to consider?
I'm NOT a Linux geek, so I don't know what are the range of options to
investigate. The device can access online satellite tracking
applications using a Wi-Fi connection. But I'm looking for something to
track ham satellites when no wireless Internet connection is available.
Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:36:06 -0600
From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The future of AMSAT is NOW . . .
To: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:54 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The future of AMSAT is NOW . . .
[snip]
>
> For my last 45 years being licensed, from my first day to my last, has
> been the lamentation that all we have in Amateur radio are old-fuds over
> 50. And now I am finally realizing that THAT is FACT. We should not
> avoid recruiting old-fuds!
>
[snip]
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
HEY! I resemble that remark!!!!
;-)
George, KA3HSW
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:47:37 -0600
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Was HEO naivete; now GEO rideshare frequency
choice, etc.
To: <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W1259E0A074CD0318BBC09FD6BF0@xxx.xxx>
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> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
Drew and the group
Thanks again for your well thought out reply. I would just respond with a few
things that had "I" been in the board meeting I would have said.
1. I dont think that appealing to "the young people" or the "computer
generation" is a viable means to increase our ranks. First off the "kids"
(under 25 for me) of today almost have unlimited data transfer capability with
cell type equipment...and that is going to do nothing but grow even during an
economic turndown. My twin girls on their "youngster cruise" were continually
sending back "video's" of their experience, even on the boat. And that was a
few years ago.
My impression is that the market is the same as it has always been...kids who
get interested in "radio" (not computers) and parents who have the time and
money to spare in such an activity. I think that there is some validity in
the "how difficult is it to get on the satellite" metric...but I think one
reason that the LEO FM birds are what they are an Oscar 7is what it is in
terms of people is that the equipment for the LEO FM birds is acquirable for
under 200 dollars AND has uses other places...
2. In other words Ithink that the issue with the sats is primarily the cost
of acquisition of equipment AND what its use is when the sats are not "up" (or
working). No science or polls behind that...just my viewpoint.
3) Where I think that hamsats went off the wrong end was AO-40....it was to
many eggs in one basket, to much money was spent on the "supersat" and far far
to much was expected in terms of technical expertise of the staff that was
putting it together. I realize one cannot get to the orbit the bird was
designed for without propulsion, but it is clear that propulsion is rocket
science and that was the fatal flaw of 40...or probably any "amateur
effort"...unless we get some very talented volunteer "rocket scientist".
Without a ride to the appropriate orbit that might be the fatal link in any
future HEO. But in any event more smaller birds to me make more sense then
"one big one". And if we cannot get that for various reasons...more AO-7's in
my view are the answer.
Oh well I learned a long time ago that the joy in life was changing the things
you could change and just dealing with what one cannot...and that for me just
is using the sats that are 'there' and having a ball at it.
thanks again for your time and allowing me to bend your ear. I use to be The
President of my Community Association so I realize what a thankless job you
and the AMSAT board have.
Robert
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:57:07 -0600
From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite tracking for Nokia N800/810
To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I'm no Linux geek either, but I managed to get Gpredict running on an Ubuntu
box quite painlessly (of course, Ubuntu took care of the dependencies
automatically...).
I'd say start with Predict, Portable Predict+, or Gpredict, if Maemo has a
GUI. Predict and Portable Predict+ are available on the AMSAT software
page, and the author, John Magliacane, is on the BB...
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Estes" <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking for Nokia N800/810
>I recently ordered a Nokia N810 "internet tablet". It's a pocket-sized
> computer with a 400 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP2420 processor running a
> stripped-down version of Linux called "Maemo". It's open source, of
> course, and a community of enthusiasts develops software for this
> platform. Unfortunately, the maemo.org software index does not list a
> satellite tracking program.
>
> What are the practical options to put a satellite tracking program on a
> Nokia N810? The display is 800x480 pixels, much larger than most
> "palmtop" computers. Is there an existing Linux satellite tracking
> program that might work with Maemo Linux if I install the necessary
> libraries? Or should I try a Palm OS emulator and use something like
> PocketSat that is designed for a much smaller display? Any other
> emulation options to consider?
>
> I'm NOT a Linux geek, so I don't know what are the range of options to
> investigate. The device can access online satellite tracking
> applications using a Wi-Fi connection. But I'm looking for something to
> track ham satellites when no wireless Internet connection is available.
>
> Wayne Estes W9AE
> Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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