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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Messageboard Post (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
2. Re: Messageboard Post (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
3. DYI - Hammy Radio Post It Note (JoAnne Maenpaa)
4. Re: Messageboard Post (David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB)
5. Re: New sats and HRD Keps ? (racer5039)
6. Here we go again Was message board post (OZ1MY)
7. Re: Messageboard Post (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: Messageboard Post (Graham Shirville)
9. EME article (Trevor)
10. Re: Messageboard Post (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
11. Re: Messageboard Post (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
12. Fw: Re: Messageboard Post (acjohn1@xxxx.xxxx
13. AO7 F2IL (k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
14. Re: Here we go again Was message board post (Jack K.)
15. Re: Messageboard Post (Jeff Wandling W7BRS)
16. Re: Here we go again Was message board post (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
17. Re: Messageboard Post (Sebastian)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:01:34 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB <m0zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <497CC51E.70103@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
The reliable "help mechanism" is to phone Martha.
She never fails.
David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB wrote:
> AMSAT is a volunteer organisation and with that obviously comes
> limitations concerning Member's time and effort.
>
> Over the last two weeks I have tried on four separate occasions to
> complete and send the volunteer form that is on the AMSAT NA website -
> each time I have received an error message at the point of sending the
> form and each time I have completed the bug report form and checked the
> box that asks if I want an acknowledgement of my report.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:03:12 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <497CC580.2000600@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Phone Martha.
Works every time.
David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB wrote:
>
> Over the last two weeks I have tried on four separate occasions to
> complete and send the volunteer form that is on the AMSAT NA website -
> each time I have received an error message at the point of sending the
> form and each time I have completed the bug report form and checked the
> box that asks if I want an acknowledgement of my report.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:08:30 -0600
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DYI - Hammy Radio Post It Note
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000001c97f28$b2648000$172d8000$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi all,
Just found a slick way to print small stuff on a post-it note to keep
frequency lists, etc. within eyeball range in the shack. It worked slick
enough here in this shack that I gotta tell someone about it ...
If you would like to have a post-it note with the Japan GOSAT flock on it go
to the www.amsat.org page.
1. Print this page on plain paper (GOSAT frequency table should be on there)
2. Place an appropriately sized post-it note right over the portion of the
printed page that contains the frequency table.
3. Send this page through the printer again. Stuff gets overprinted from its
first ride through the printer but the post-it now has a clean copy of the
table.
It worked on my Lexmark ink jet. Careful with your printer if you have a
fancy one. Hmmm, also just made another one with the WSPR freqs on it ...
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:09:37 -0500
From: David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB <m0zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <497CC701.5030400@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
My point is that the first portal a visitor sees is the website and if
that doesn't work then gives more ammunition to those that post
disparaging e-mails!
David
KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> Phone Martha.
> Works every time.
>
>
> David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB wrote:
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:31:00 -0600
From: "racer5039" <racer5039@x.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New sats and HRD Keps ?
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BLU102-DAV1DC34CB392AE4DEC4FBDDACCD0@xxx.xxx>
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Thanks Alan, Thats exactly what I was looking for.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:38:08 +0100
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Here we go again Was message board post
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002701c97f2c$d56f4ea0$6401a8c0@xxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi all,
Why not look at the bright side of life :-)
Personally I have had lots of fun out of AO-40 (P3D) and
all the other satellites over the years.
We still have a lot of working satellites up there. Some
are AMSATs others Cubesats - there are lots of ways
to use them.
Just had fun trying to track the new Japanese satellites
launched 23rd of January.
I too would like to see a HEO satellite in orbit - but I also
realise the difficulties (moneys).
AMSAT-OZ has just donated 2500 EUROS to P3E. We are a very small
organisation with 60 members.
This will not pay for a launch. Our filosophy is that any small
amount helps.
Have a nice Sunday.
73 OZ1MY
Ib
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:46:30 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB <m0zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Nigel Gunn
G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <72F4098CF18A4E74939E1EDD2EE34E73@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
You are both right. AMSAT-NA is in dire need of someone to manage the
website, and we also need volunteers for many, many other things. It sounds
clich?, but the saying "We are AMSAT" is very true. I was upset with how the
Echo Ops committee was being handled pre-launch, and look where it got me
:-)
If anyone ever runs into a dead end or needs help with something AMSAT,
getting on the phone with Martha is a sure fire way to find a solution. If
she cannot do it, she will direct you to someone who can.
David, send me an email with what you might like to volunteer for, and I'll
point you in the right direction.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB" <m0zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:09 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
My point is that the first portal a visitor sees is the website and if
that doesn't work then gives more ammunition to those that post
disparaging e-mails!
David
KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> Phone Martha.
> Works every time.
>
>
> David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB wrote:
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:03:35 -0000
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "Clint Bradford"
<clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <C1C6C20340F54235929C97E403BC0820@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
At the bottom of the current AMSAT website is a link to
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/AmsatHomeOld.html
>From where you can see lots of old archived information.
- If you really want to
73
Graham
G3VZV
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:08:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: Trevor <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] EME article
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <392582.43399.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
The free publication HAM-MAG has an EME article in issue 2
PAGE 31 : Portable EME operation - By DL3OCH
See http://www.ham-mag.com/
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:28:38 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1232918918.19857.21.camel@xxxxx>
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On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 19:33 +0000, John B. Stephensen wrote:
> ats in 800 km orbits have much lower launch costs. However, the vast
> majority of members told AMSAT that they didn't want more LEO satellites
> after AO-51. Perhaps small is better.
For the kind of money that cubesats cost, you could launch about a dozen
of them instead of one geosynchronous one. That way you'd *always* have
a cubesat or two visible. Add some sat-to-sat comms, and you're in
business.
Gordon
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:50:06 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <497CDE8E.8060206@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Gordon... YOU add some sat-to-sat comms and WE will be in business.
Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote:
Add some sat-to-sat comms, and you're in
> business.
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:00:04 GMT
From: "acjohn1@xxxx.xxxx <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: Re: Messageboard Post
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090125.170004.18294.0@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I have been trying my best to talk to the Iss here for a month now. Everyone
wants to talk to it and complain that there is no one talking on the SSB sats.
This tells me that it would be far better to spend a little money and put up
more cube sats than a lot of money on one SSB sat.
John
KG4VHV
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 19:33 +0000, John B. Stephensen wrote:
> ats in 800 km orbits have much lower launch costs. However, the vast
> majority of members told AMSAT that they didn't want more LEO satellites
> after AO-51. Perhaps small is better.
For the kind of money that cubesats cost, you could launch about a dozen
of them instead of one geosynchronous one. That way you'd *always* have
a cubesat or two visible. Add some sat-to-sat comms, and you're in
business.
Gordon
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:22:58 GMT
From: "k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxxx <k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO7 F2IL
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090125.142258.9130.0@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Congratulation Jean on your 4000 plus qsos on AO7. It has been a great
satellite since it's return in 2002.
Thanks for the many qsos we had together over the years.
73 my friend
Joe
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:24:09 -0700
From: "Jack K." <kd1pe.1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Here we go again Was message board post
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <5FFC987A19AB482CBEF552E568E72B37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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I hesitate to toss my two cents in as I am not a member of AMSAT and have
not been one for a long time as AMSAT apparently has moved in directions my
interests do not lie. I still read the bb messages and I still want to get
back on the sats, but 15 second more or less contacts do no interest me
regardless of what the mode is. I have no interest in chasing sates to
listen to their telemetry - My feeling is that if I can not use the stinking
thing, then I am not going to support it.
So until there are some SSB high level sats going up or there is something
beyond the "lets talk about it" stage my efforts and my wallet won't support
AMSAT or anyone else. Yeah I know I am by using the BB and yes that makes me
a moocher, but on the other hand maybe someone will read it and take a hint
and once more I will have something usefull to me and my efforts and bucks
will once more flow outward instead of just dusting my old Sat equipment
which I should have sold long ago, but kept believing that one day AMSAT
would have a high level Sat again that actually worked when it went up
DE KD1PE
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:55:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Wandling W7BRS <amsat@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.82.0901251251020.10636@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
Classic one webmaster problem. That's why things go stale.
Hint: if there's a need to keep timely information up to date, distribute
the control of accessing and updating the information. Like for example a
wiki or something that allows the community of experts to keep the wider
public aware. Give keys to several active AMSAT members who can keep
their sections up to date, rather than let one webmaster keep all the
information up to date.
The result we want is Net-centric operations: right information to the
right people at the right time to make the right decisions. The design
solution to get that result is remove the one-webmaster problem and
replace it with a distributed mechanism to allow mutliple experts keeping
time sensitive sections up to date.
$0.02
-jeff
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> You are both right. AMSAT-NA is in dire need of someone to manage the
> website, and we also need volunteers for many, many other things. It sounds
> clich?, but the saying "We are AMSAT" is very true. I was upset with how the
> Echo Ops committee was being handled pre-launch, and look where it got me
> :-)
>
> If anyone ever runs into a dead end or needs help with something AMSAT,
> getting on the phone with Martha is a sure fire way to find a solution. If
> she cannot do it, she will direct you to someone who can.
>
> David, send me an email with what you might like to volunteer for, and I'll
> point you in the right direction.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB" <m0zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:09 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
>
>
> My point is that the first portal a visitor sees is the website and if
> that doesn't work then gives more ammunition to those that post
> disparaging e-mails!
>
> David
> KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
> www.kg4zlb.com
>
>
>
> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>> Phone Martha.
>> Works every time.
>>
>>
>> David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB wrote:
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:54:39 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Here we go again Was message board post
To: "Jack K." <kd1pe.1@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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Mr. Kubiac,
Just before checking email and reading this post from you, I heard myself in
CW on AO-7 Mode B for more than 20 minutes - using a station that I'll bet is
far less appropriate and effective than the one you have collecting dust. I
mention that because AO-7, FO-29 and VO-52 are wonderful satellites with
linear transponders that hardly anyone uses. And for the past several months,
amateurs around the world have been able to make unique and - I believe, at
least - historic contacts on AO-16 using a V-FM/U-SSB configuration. That
Grand Old Girl has about reached her final LOS for at least several years,
which is sad.
My point simply is to suggest to you that, as I write this, there as many
satellites in orbit that appear to be at least close to what you are calling
for as there are LEO FM satellites - but only if you include the ISS in the
latter. Without the ISS repeater, the linear satellites outnumber the
currently active LEO FM satellites.
I am a member of AMSAT, but also a member of ARRL. Following your logic, I
should drop my ARRL membership because the league supports a lot of activities
and modes that I have no interest in. And with all due respect, sir - it's not
that you cannot use the "stinking" satellites that are in orbit. You choose
not to.
I don't see how that choice - or the choice to NOT support the only
organization that can, feasibly, get a satellite that doesn't stink into orbit
for amateur use - helps the cause. Maybe you can help me understand.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
-------------- Original message from "Jack K." <kd1pe.1@xxxxx.xxx>: ----------
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>
> I hesitate to toss my two cents in as I am not a member of AMSAT and have
> not been one for a long time as AMSAT apparently has moved in directions my
> interests do not lie. I still read the bb messages and I still want to get
> back on the sats, but 15 second more or less contacts do no interest me
> regardless of what the mode is. I have no interest in chasing sates to
> listen to their telemetry - My feeling is that if I can not use the stinking
> thing, then I am not going to support it.
>
> So until there are some SSB high level sats going up or there is something
> beyond the "lets talk about it" stage my efforts and my wallet won't support
> AMSAT or anyone else. Yeah I know I am by using the BB and yes that makes me
> a moocher, but on the other hand maybe someone will read it and take a hint
> and once more I will have something usefull to me and my efforts and bucks
> will once more flow outward instead of just dusting my old Sat equipment
> which I should have sold long ago, but kept believing that one day AMSAT
> would have a high level Sat again that actually worked when it went up
>
> DE KD1PE
>
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:24:02 -0500
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <46F4F381-A9CD-46DA-89C8-11D2469E6B36@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Here's my 0.02 worth.
I agree that having one individual, no matter how well they excel at
their job, being placed (or finding themselves placed) in charge of a
large project, or organization; is doomed to failure.
I disagree with those who keep insisting that without HEOs, there's no
point in getting on the air. Sure many people spent a lot of time,
energy and money to buy equipment which they no have a regular use
for. No one is to blame about the satellite's failure. You made the
decision to buy the equipment. Those things happen.
Next, to those who constantly complain about the lack of HEOs, why
don't you try some of the LEOs? I've been having a great time with
them for the last few months. I have made many friends, and have
helped several hams who have heard me on the sats, but needed a hand
with software, hardware, etc. I have emailed many hams who call CQ on
the FM birds, yet can't hear the downlink, and so far they are all
thrilled to hear that someone heard them; and I have attempted to
steer them to what they need for their station. Those of you with
that experience, who don't get on the air, are failing the amateur
service by not offering your experience to those who are starting out;
thus you are also contributing to the potential demise of AMSAT-NA.
Those of you with the equipment that's just sitting there unused, are
contributing to the potential loss of the frequencies which we have
available to use. Turn on your radio and listen to FO-29 or VO-52,
you are lucky to hear one qso on there. That is such a shame, when
you consider the relatively large bandwidth available there. If you
listen on 20 meters you will hear lots of PSK31 signals. Why aren't
we using that mode on the satellites?
I didn't find it dull when I spoke to Mike, an astronaut inside the
space shuttle three times last week. Three times because there
weren't that many hams on there to talk to him. We even spoke about
how they get news feeds, video, and internet on board. Another ham
talked about football with him.
You say we don't need any more LEOs? Well then I guess you haven't
heard a recent pass of AO-51. Once you do, you will change your
mind. There also appears to be a lot of interest in the satellites
which were recently launched - yet as far as I know, those only send
beacons or telemetry.
If none of this changes your mind, then consider selling your
equipment, at a reasonable cost to someone who will put it to use. It
's not easy finding used satellite antennas, mast mounted preamps; and
even more difficult to find Yaesu G5400/G5500s. Get rid of the dust,
get some money back, and let someone else enjoy the gear.
Now on the other hand; I submitted my payment to AMSAT 2 weeks ago. I
requested the free key for SATPC32. I haven't heard a thing back. I
emailed Martha a week ago, and I still haven't heard anything back
from her. Not a complaint; but new members should be welcomed, that's
one way of getting additional members; and keeping existing members.
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
AMSAT # ?
On Jan 25, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Jeff Wandling W7BRS wrote:
>
> Classic one webmaster problem. That's why things go stale.
>
> Hint: if there's a need to keep timely information up to date,
> distribute the control of accessing and updating the information.
> Like for example a wiki or something that allows the community of
> experts to keep the wider public aware. Give keys to several active
> AMSAT members who can keep their sections up to date, rather than
> let one webmaster keep all the information up to date.
>
> The result we want is Net-centric operations: right information to
> the right people at the right time to make the right decisions.
> The design solution to get that result is remove the one-webmaster
> problem and replace it with a distributed mechanism to allow
> mutliple experts keeping time sensitive sections up to date.
>
> $0.02
>
> -jeff
>
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>
>> You are both right. AMSAT-NA is in dire need of someone to manage the
>> website, and we also need volunteers for many, many other things.
>> It sounds
>> clich?, but the saying "We are AMSAT" is very true. I was upset
>> with how the
>> Echo Ops committee was being handled pre-launch, and look where it
>> got me
>> :-)
>>
>> If anyone ever runs into a dead end or needs help with something
>> AMSAT,
>> getting on the phone with Martha is a sure fire way to find a
>> solution. If
>> she cannot do it, she will direct you to someone who can.
>>
>> David, send me an email with what you might like to volunteer for,
>> and I'll
>> point you in the right direction.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB" <m0zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> To: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:09 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Messageboard Post
>>
>>
>> My point is that the first portal a visitor sees is the website and
>> if
>> that doesn't work then gives more ammunition to those that post
>> disparaging e-mails!
>>
>> David
>> KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
>> www.kg4zlb.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>>> Phone Martha.
>>> Works every time.
>>>
>>>
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