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Today's Topics:
1. ISS Timing Latest (David Barber)
2. ISS Digital Mode !! (nader omer)
3. Re: ISS Timing Latest (OZ1MY)
4. Thanks to ARISS team (andy thomas)
5. Re: Thanks to ARISS team (David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB)
6. Re: Thanks to ARISS team (David Barber)
7. Re: Thanks to ARISS team (David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB)
8. ISS Keps (Sebastian)
9. Re: ISS Timing Latest (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
10. 23cm35ez (Andrew Glasbrenner)
11. Re: ISS Keplerian elements (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
12. Re: ISS Timing Latest (racer5039)
13. Re: 23cm35ez (Andrew Glasbrenner)
14. PRISM CW data_format (Mineo Wakita)
15. Re: 23cm35ez (Alan P. Biddle)
16. 23cm35ez (Perry Yantis)
17. Re: ISS Timing Latest (John Wright)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:10:02 -0000
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Timing Latest
To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <78DBECCA60D84057969912A303C331E6@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
To follow up on the comments of others and I hope it helps:
ISS appears to be running just over 4 minutes late (approx 4m 17s) with
respect to the current Keps.
Measured here on the 20.55utc UK pass.
David
G8OQW
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:27:23 -0800 (PST)
From: nader omer <st2nh@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Digital Mode !!
To: amsat bb bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <525608.49190.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi,All
?
Why not thinking of upgrade the digital packet mode on ISS to more interesting
and attractive mode! Like a Pacsat protocol mode!
ISS has a more room than 25cm cubic LEO satellite, isn't it?
?
73's
Nader, st2nh
www.st2nh.com
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:01:32 +0100
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Timing Latest
To: <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, "'amsat-bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000801c97825$fe631840$6401a8c0@xxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi all,
I experienced the same just after the change of orbit - but
the keps from Space-Track.org were OK shortly after.
Exactly how long time it took I do not remember.
Space-Track is probably the fastest to update.
73 OZ1MY
Ib
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Timing Latest
> To follow up on the comments of others and I hope it helps:
>
> ISS appears to be running just over 4 minutes late (approx 4m 17s) with
> respect to the current Keps.
>
> Measured here on the 20.55utc UK pass.
>
> David
> G8OQW
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:15:37 +0000 (GMT)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks to ARISS team
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <268182.61085.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Now that we have passed the Jan 15th end of the ARISS commemorative event I'd
like to thank the ARISS team for this exciting and educational experience
through the ISS repeater, on data, and with other downlinks.
I have found it a very stimulating experience, using the various different
modes, and indeed reminding me why I bought my IC-910 in the first place, hi!
It's sharpened up my act on a number of things including
*properly modulating my 9k6 tx with an external Symek TNC
*configuring RX with AGWPE and UISS at 9k6
*my best orbit for an antenna without a rotator, set for MaxEl
*Choosing FM-narrow on V uplink
*using the telebridge via echolink for school contacts
*the late update of the keps after an ISS orbit boost
and a host of other fine details.
It was also very stimulating to have qsos with other amateurs trying to get
through the repeater for the first time.
Next I have to move to Mode L ... another techie challenge! One day I'll speak
to the crew too, as I have done with Mir, in another generation, it seems.
thanks again
73 de andy G0SFJ
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:23:19 -0500
From: David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB <m0zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Thanks to ARISS team
To: andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx
Cc: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <497108D7.8050507@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Mmmm.. I just re-read the article on the AMSAT home page cos' the 15th
January date didn't ring a bell for the end of the event.
If I read the article correctly, the specially configured x-band stays
on to the 17th, yet in the next paragraph, it does confirm Andy's
assertion that the event only runs till the 15th!
I guess two days isn't going to make much difference either way,
especially as the current config resembles the zoo on AO-51 in default
mode during the week :-D
Question though - what happens after January 17th......? Anyone know?
David
KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
andy thomas wrote:
> Now that we have passed the Jan 15th end of the ARISS commemorative event
I'd like to thank the ARISS team for this exciting and educational experience
through the ISS repeater, on data, and with other downlinks.
>
> I have found it a very stimulating experience, using the various different
modes, and indeed reminding me why I bought my IC-910 in the first place, hi!
>
> It's sharpened up my act on a number of things including
>
> *properly modulating my 9k6 tx with an external Symek TNC
> *configuring RX with AGWPE and UISS at 9k6
> *my best orbit for an antenna without a rotator, set for MaxEl
> *Choosing FM-narrow on V uplink
> *using the telebridge via echolink for school contacts
> *the late update of the keps after an ISS orbit boost
>
> and a host of other fine details.
>
> It was also very stimulating to have qsos with other amateurs trying to get
through the repeater for the first time.
>
> Next I have to move to Mode L ... another techie challenge! One day I'll
speak to the crew too, as I have done with Mir, in another generation, it
seems.
>
> thanks again
> 73 de andy G0SFJ
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:29:54 -0000
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Thanks to ARISS team
To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <2550C60E72914AA081835DB51FC765E1@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
The US gets a new President!
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB
Sent: 16 January 2009 22:23
To: andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx
Cc: amsat
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Thanks to ARISS team
Mmmm.. I just re-read the article on the AMSAT home page cos' the 15th
January date didn't ring a bell for the end of the event.
If I read the article correctly, the specially configured x-band stays
on to the 17th, yet in the next paragraph, it does confirm Andy's
assertion that the event only runs till the 15th!
I guess two days isn't going to make much difference either way,
especially as the current config resembles the zoo on AO-51 in default
mode during the week :-D
Question though - what happens after January 17th......? Anyone know?
David
KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:33:56 -0500
From: David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB <m0zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Thanks to ARISS team
To: david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx
Cc: 'amsat-bb' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <49710B54.20409@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
A trivial matter in comparison to ongoing amateur radio activities on
the ISS :)
David
KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com
David Barber wrote:
> The US gets a new President!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB
> Sent: 16 January 2009 22:23
> To: andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx
> Cc: amsat
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Thanks to ARISS team
>
> Mmmm.. I just re-read the article on the AMSAT home page cos' the 15th
> January date didn't ring a bell for the end of the event.
>
> If I read the article correctly, the specially configured x-band stays
> on to the 17th, yet in the next paragraph, it does confirm Andy's
> assertion that the event only runs till the 15th!
>
> I guess two days isn't going to make much difference either way,
> especially as the current config resembles the zoo on AO-51 in default
> mode during the week :-D
>
> Question though - what happens after January 17th......? Anyone know?
>
> David
> KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
> www.kg4zlb.com
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:05:07 -0500
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Keps
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <608CDDBC-9ADE-43FC-9B1A-9BC88C45DE2D@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Here are the latest good ISS Keps:
ISS
1 25544U 98067A 09016.54575237 .00010596 00000-0 82463-4 0 9004
2 25544 51.6401 3.1542 0008078 273.4222 86.6015 15.70373981 22104
I found them here:
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/SSapplications/Post/JavaSSOP/or
bit/ISS/SVPOST.html
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:23:08 +0000
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Timing Latest
To: david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx "'amsat-bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<011720090223.11912.4971410C0000FA5A00002E8822155688840B9D04C999@xxxxxxx
.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
Where can I find the details involved in the process of adjusting the ISS
orbit.
73 Bob W7LRD
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
> To follow up on the comments of others and I hope it helps:
>
> ISS appears to be running just over 4 minutes late (approx 4m 17s) with
> respect to the current Keps.
>
> Measured here on the 20.55utc UK pass.
>
> David
> G8OQW
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:46:49 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm35ez
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <FLWSS@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <77646AD1AF314F4E8CC3498845518E3B@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
I think I have a problem. I'm assembling a 23cm35ez that I picked up second
hand. I think I may have a direction set from an older version. Mine has a
three piece boom, and the instructions show a 2 piece. Also the number and
length of the elements do not match. Since these antennas don't always go
from long to short elements, the instructions are pretty important.
Does anyone have the most recent version they could email me? I can only
find the 8-15-94 revision online.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:54:46 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Keplerian elements
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1232160886.6127.105.camel@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 13:40 -0600, Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]
wrote:
> When the ISS does a reboost (like it did on Jan 14), it is usually a
> significant change in orbit. The predicts seem to take about 3 days to
> sync back up (even though they start getting closer about 24 hours
> later).
>
> Just another one of the challenges of the ISS, they make changes quite a
> bit so you have to be on top of the daily activity schedule.
I see it as one of the advantages of using the Armstrong method for
positioning your antenna ;-) If you point the little end at the part of
the sky where the bird is loudest, it's in the right place.
Gordon
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:20:58 -0600
From: "racer5039" <racer5039@x.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Timing Latest
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BLU102-DAV137DA45DAF6473DACE6073ACD50@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
I have the same problem Bob.
I changed the 2-line in the file for HRD but the ISS is still vary late
It makes it vary hard to tune by hand(at least for a green horn like me)
Marv.
N0FJP
----- Original Message -----
From: <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>; "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>;
<sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Timing Latest
> Where can I find the details involved in the process of adjusting the ISS
> orbit.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
>
>> To follow up on the comments of others and I hope it helps:
>>
>> ISS appears to be running just over 4 minutes late (approx 4m 17s) with
>> respect to the current Keps.
>>
>> Measured here on the 20.55utc UK pass.
>>
>> David
>> G8OQW
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:41:34 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 23cm35ez
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <FLWSS@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A74098D7754346D1987D487DD79A4974@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
A little more digging turned up the 05 version online. Nothing like putting
an antenna together at midnight the night before a contest.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <FLWSS@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:46 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm35ez
>I think I have a problem. I'm assembling a 23cm35ez that I picked up second
> hand. I think I may have a direction set from an older version. Mine has a
> three piece boom, and the instructions show a 2 piece. Also the number and
> length of the elements do not match. Since these antennas don't always go
> from long to short elements, the instructions are pretty important.
>
> Does anyone have the most recent version they could email me? I can only
> find the 8-15-94 revision online.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:29:15 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PRISM CW data_format
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <6EC978A797DA19ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
[English Version]
http://www.space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/gs/en/satinfo.html
http://www.space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/gs/en/application.html
[Japanese Version]
http://www.space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/gs/satinfo.html
http://www.space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/gs/application.html
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:58:07 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 23cm35ez
To: "'Andrew Glasbrenner'" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <EED3EC72219B4F16AF5697F0887371BE@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Drew,
>>Nothing like putting an antenna together at midnight the night before a
contest.
Throw in n sub-zero temperatures, and they usually work perfectly. It is
the careful, thoughtful installations which get you every time!
Good luck contesting.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:02:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm35ez
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <38210.51958.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I noticed that my instructions for this antenna is older then your is.
Please let me know where you found the newer instructions??
Perry WB8OTH
py41@xxx.xxx
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:31:58 +0000
From: John Wright <ham@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Timing Latest
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <0ML2xA-1LOF1b1sFU-0005vb@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 21:10 16/01/2009, you wrote:
>To follow up on the comments of others and I hope it helps:
>
>ISS appears to be running just over 4 minutes late (approx 4m 17s) with
>respect to the current Keps.
>
>Measured here on the 20.55utc UK pass.
>
If you look on the NASA site, advance keps, including predicted
post-burn keps are available. See
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/SSapplications/Post/JavaSSOP/or
bit/ISS/SVPOST.html
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