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Today's Topics:
1. Re: UT1FG/mm report (G0MRF(AT)aol.com)
2. IC-W2A as sat rig? (Bill Dzurilla)
3. ANS-090 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins (Lee McLamb)
4. Re: IC-W2A as sat rig? (John Mock KD6PAG)
5. GVLB Tracker and Yaesu rotors (Ronald Nutter)
6. Earth Hour 2008: ISS + Jules Verne (Henk, PA3GUO)
7. Yuri UT1FG/mm travel plans (Robert Turlington)
8. FO-29 schedule Apr.2008 (Mineo Wakita)
9. Re: GVLB Tracker and Yaesu rotors (Ronald Nutter)
10. Re: IC-W2A as sat rig? (Bill Dzurilla)
11. FT-817 use on AO16 (Chris Bloy)
12. local ( AZ) satellite beams (w0dxz(AT)aol.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:36:50 EDT
From: G0MRF(AT)aol.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: UT1FG/mm report
To: rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <d48.262eee50.35201e82(AT)aol.com>
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In a message dated 29/03/2008 16:36:18 GMT Standard Time,
rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com writes:
Hi All
I managed to contact Yuri UT1FG/mm (AT) 1457 today on AO16, he informed me
that
he would be in the Algerian Port of Annaba(JM36VV) for a further 4days
before moving on.Regards Robert G8ATE
Hi Robert.
I hope he has an Algerian licence because if he is in the port then the
maritime mobile call is not valid. -He needs to be outside the territorial
limit.
I recall a Russian was arrested in Libya for doing exactly that.
David
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:39:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-W2A as sat rig?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Cc: fm-satellite(AT)yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <679132.50304.qm(AT)web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I had success on Swan Island with a borrowed IC-W32A.
Today at a hamfest I saw a nice price on an IC-W2A,
apparently an earlier version of the W32A, so I bought
it. No charger, though, ordered one for $10 from R&L.
Anyone used a W2A with the sats? How does it differ
from the W32A?
I've already noticed that some of the jacks are
different. I can't use the headset mike I used with
the W32A, the jack is smaller and won't fit. The
power supply jack is also different.
73, Bill NZ5N
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:17:09 -0500
From: Lee McLamb <ku4os(AT)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-090 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-090
ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North America,
The
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the activities of a
worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in
designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital
Amateur Radio satellites.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor(AT)amsat.org
In this edition:
* AO-51 Schedule - April 2008
* Satellite Demo Videos
* AMSAT Awards
* AMSAT Room Block at Dayton
* KiwiSAT Update
* ARISS Status - 24 March 2008
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-090.01
AO-51 Schedule - April 2008
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 090.01
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
March 30, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-090.01
The first week of April, AO-51 exits full illumination and our power
budget will
shrink considerably. The length of the eclipses will increase throughout the
month, and we'll have to closely monitor our power situation. The schedule
reflects this, as the BBS will be active throughout the first two weeks of the
month. Additionally all AO-51 transmitters will be shut off on March 31st for
a
special Whole Orbit Data collection before full illumination ends.
As the month progresses we will schedule some time with the L/U BBS switched
to
a L/U repeater on an "as available" basis. Watch the webpage and ANS for
announcements with further details.
April 2008 AO-51 Schedule
March 31 until April 30, subject to modification
March 31
All Transmitters OFF for WOD collection
April 1 - April 13
FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM, NO PL Tone
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM
9k6 Digital L/U BBS and Telemetry
Uplink: 1268.700 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM
April 14 - April 30
FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM, NO PL Tone
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM
9k6 Digital L/U BBS and Telemetry
-- OR --
FM Repeater as available (exact dates to be announced)
Uplink: 1268.700 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM
The AO-51 Operations Group is made up of AMSAT Members who are also
AO-51 users.
The Operations Group works with the Command Team to create the monthly
schedule
for the satellite.
AO-51 Echo Mode Suggestion Email Address:
ao51-modes(AT)amsat.org
73 KO4MA For AO-51 Operations Group
(KO4MA, WD9EWK/VA7EWK, N8MH, OZ1MY, VK5HI, WA4SXM)
[ANS thanks Drew, KO4MA, for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-090.02
Satellite Demo Videos
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 090.02
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
March 30, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-090.02
Robert Davies, KI4HXT, has produced a Windows media video showing how to work
AO-27. Dave Jordan, AA4KN does the actual satellite demonstration during the
2008 Orlando Hamcation. Dave describes the Doppler shift that will
occur during
the pass, makes a number of contacts during the pass, then talks about setting
up the Kenwood TH-D7A hand held for analog satellite operation. Drew
Glasbrenner, KO4MA was doing a simultaneous demonstration and has a cameo
appearance describing the arc of the upcoming pass. This is about a 20 minute
video.
Bob McGwier, N4HY also has a video recorded in February that talks about the
AMSAT Engineering activities during the next few months. Good information
about
a number of activities that are taking place this year. This is a 10 minute
video.
Videos can be found at http://www.ki4hxt.com/id5.html
Thanks to Robert for hosting these.
We are working on additional videos, stay tuned.
73,
Gould, WA4SXM
AMSAT VP User Services
[ANS thanks Gould, WA4SXM, for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-090.03
AMSAT Awards
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 090.03
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
March 30, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-090.03
We would like to welcome the following to the satellite community.
They have made their first satellite contact and are now members of the
AMSAT Satellite Communicators Club.
Kent Frazier, K5KNT
Jay Garlitz, AA4FL
The following have earned the AMSAT Satellite Communication Achievement Award.
Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK, #459
Francis Geraci, WB1FXX, #460
Jay Garlitz, AA4FL, #461
The following have earned the South Africa AMSAT Satellite Communicaton Award.
Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK, #US118
Jay Garlitz, AA4FL, #US119
To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or
http://www.amsatnet.com
[ANS thanks Bruce, KK5DO, for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-090.04
AMSAT Room Block at Dayton
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 090.04
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
March 30, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-090.04
A reminder that time is running out. Over half the AMSAT room block for
Dayton has been reserved. If you are interested in a room, please give me a
call at 301-589-6062 between 10:00 AM and 6:00 PM (EDT), Monday-Friday.
[ANS thanks Martha for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-090.05
KiwiSAT Update
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 090.05
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
March 30, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-090.05
KiwiSAT will now carry an additional special beacon which, it is planned, will
be used by radio amateurs around the world to collect data on atmospheric
aberrations to assist with finite information collection directly associated
with Global Warming concerns and Carbon Balance monitoring.
Details have yet to be finalized however the KiwiSAT structure has
been modified
to incorporate a second 70cm monopole mounted on the Z- face.
A high level of filtering has been incorporated to minimize any
desensitizing of
the on-board 70 cm receivers.
The operation of the beacon will be switched as required but will
normally be ON
for whole orbit data collection.
The KiwiSAT linear flight transponder is currently transmitting from the
Whangaparaoa area with beam antennas pointing South.
Transponder is inverting type to compensate for Doppler shift when in orbit.
* Transmit Power is 2 Watts PEP.
* Beacon frequency is 145.885 MHz
* Uplink is from 435.265 to 435.235 MHZ LSB (note the sideband)
* Down link is from 145.850 to 145.880 MHz USB
A test transmission on 435.2544 LSB came out at 145.860 USB.
As it's a linear transponder 30kHz wide, any mode can be used, but FM is
discouraged (but not banned). Amateur stations are encouraged to try out the
transponder. Try to better the previous distance of record of 292 km
previously
achieved with the prototype transponder (same location/antenna).
Reports welcome to < amsat-zl(at)kiwisat.org >
[ANS thanks AMSAT-ZL for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-090.06
ARISS Status - 24 March 2008
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 090.06
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
March 30, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-090.06
1. Upcoming School Contacts
Shanghai Youth Centre of Science and Technology Education in Xuhui, Shanghai,
China has been scheduled for an Amateur Radio on the International
Space Station
(ARISS) contact on Tuesday, April 1 at 08:10 UTC. The Centre is an after
school
educational facility that educates teenagers in science and technology. It has
its own radio club, callsign BY4AY, which focuses on educating students in
science and radio communications and in fabricating electronic toys.
2. Shukor Crew Debrief Scheduled
An Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) crew debrief was
scheduled for Dr. Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor, 9W2MUS, on Tuesday, March 25. The
spaceflight participant performed 5 contacts with Malaysian school children
while onboard the ISS in October 2007.
3. Garriott to Participate in ARISS Contacts
Space Adventures has posted an article covering the educational activities
that
Richard Garriott, W5KWQ, has planned while he is onboard the
International Space
Station. Inspiring children at the Challenger Learning Centers and taking part
in amateur radio contacts are among the activities in which he plans to
participate. See:
http://www.spaceadventures.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.viewnews&newsid=599
4. Amateur Radio Stations in Colorado Air and Space Museum
In promoting education, science and technology, Wings over the Rockies Air and
Space Museum in Denver, Colorado has included amateur radio stations in its
Avionics display and efforts are well under way in setting up a station,
callsign K0WAR, in the International Space Station module exhibit. See:
http://wings.rmhcn.org/
5. ARISS International Team Meeting Held
The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) monthly
teleconference was held on Tuesday, March 18. Topics of discussion
included the
upcoming Moscow meeting, the ARISS nominating committee and SuitSat-2.
Minutes
have been posted. See: http://www.rac.ca/ariss/arisstel2008-03-18.htm
[ANS thanks Carol, KB3LKI, for the above information]
/EX
In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's
Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project
Funds, will be eligible to receive additional benefits. Application forms are
available from the AMSAT Office.
73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KU4OS
ku4os at amsat dot org
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:39:02 -0700
From: John Mock KD6PAG <kd6pag(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IC-W2A as sat rig?
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <E1JfoNq-0006tr-D2(AT)sebastopol.fdns.net>
I had one for several years and it worked very nicely as a J-FM satellite
rig. I think you made a good choice! Consider getting an Arrow antenna,
or something comparable. Also, use a casette or voice recorder, as it's
hard to hold an antenna and a radio, and still write down callsigns.
If i recall correctly, the IC-W2A has an ordinary stereo mini-phone
jack, with the speaker on the tip and the microphone on the ring contacts.
But what you'll really need is a patch cord from the IC-W2A to the mike
input of your recorder, which might need attenuation. Write to me if you
need any help with this.
I hope to talk to you soon on AO-27, AO-51, etc. 73's and good luck!
-- KD6PAG (Networking Old-Timer, Satellite QRPer)
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:44:50 -0500
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GVLB Tracker and Yaesu rotors
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <47EF0CB2.2080100(AT)networkref.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Since it may be a while before I can afford the az/el Yaesu rotor, is it
possible to interface the current lvb tracker with an az only version of
a Yaesu rotor ? I have been thinking of this since when I have my
satellite antennas setup at home, I use a setup where my antennas are
are pointed at a fixed elevation.
Ron
KA4KYI
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:36:54 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Earth Hour 2008: ISS + Jules Verne
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1228.212.61.80.39.1206869814.squirrel(AT)webmail.iae.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
As my family wanted to make a small contribution
to Earth Hour 2008, we had put off all the lights
in the house last night between 8-9pm CET.
We decided to take a walk around the neighbourhood
to see which other houses were 'dark'.
Big bonus for us: it was a very clear sky, suddenly
we say the Jules Verne ATV and ISS passing by !
ISS followed Jules Verne 'one second' behind as the
more brighter object. Fantastic view !
Henk, PA3GUO
(of course Earth Hour & ISS & Amateur Radio are unrelated)
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:51:23 +0100
From: Robert Turlington <rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yuri UT1FG/mm travel plans
To: Amsat Buleitin Board <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BAY134-W53CD9B417C42BA2974052AC0FB0(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Hi All
here is a list of Yuri UT1FG/mm destinations over the next month
EXPECTED DEPARTURE FROM ANNABA 31-MARCH.1ST APRIL PORT EL KALA/ALGERIA "
JM47FA ".
2ND/3RD OF APRIL PORT EL KALA " JM46FW " .FROM 3TH UPTO 5TH APRIL BOUND
TOGIBRALTAR STRAIT THROUGH JM47,JM37,JM27,JM17,JM07,IM96,IM86, IM76 AND IM75
THEN ALONG COAST OF EA/CT-LAND THROUGHBISCAY BAY,ENGLISH CHANNEL,NORTH
SEA,BALTIC SEA.
13TH APRIL GDYNIA/POLAND/SP2
LEAVE ST.PETERSBURG/RUSSIA/UA1 ON 25TH APRILUA1 OF APRIL ) FOR LOADING CARGO
AND THEN WE WILL BE BACK AGAIN THROUGH NORTH SEA,ENGLISH CHANNEL BOUND TO WEST
COASTOF SOUTH AMERICA PERU AND CHILE. Regards Robert G8ATE
_________________________________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:47:02 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 schedule Apr.2008
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <14C892642704ECei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Apr. UTC
1 3:25 -
2 2:30 -
3 3:20 -
4 2:25 -
5 3:15 -
6 2:20 -
7 None
8 2:15 -
9 3:05 -
10 2:10 -
11 3:00 -
12 2:05 -
13 2:55 -
14 None
15 2:50 -
16 1:55 -
17 2:45 -
18 1:50 -
19 2:40 -
20 1:46 -
21 None
22 3:27 -
23 2:31 -
24 3:23 -
25 2:26 -
26 3:17 -
27 2:22 -
28 None
29 2:16 -
30 3:07 -
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:23:17 -0500
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GVLB Tracker and Yaesu rotors
To: Michael Young <myoung(AT)neo.rr.com>, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <47EF9445.8000200(AT)networkref.com>
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At this point, I dont know which one that I would like to use. I am
using a channel master rotor right now but would like to have some level
of automated rotor control so I can concentrate more on operating the
satellites than having to keep manually adjusting the rotor to keep
pointed at the bird I am working.
Ron
Michael Young wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> Which Yaesu rotor do you want to control?
>
> Generally if the Yaesu rotor has connections on the back of the control
> box for external control it MIGHT work
> with the LVB Tracker. BUT I cannot say for sure unless I knew which
> rotor you had in mind to use so I could
> find the documentation/schematics and see what is available.
>
> Sorry I cannot be more specific.
>
> 73's,
>
> Mike, WB8CXO
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Ronald Nutter wrote:
>
>> Since it may be a while before I can afford the az/el Yaesu rotor, is it
>> possible to interface the current lvb tracker with an az only version of
>> a Yaesu rotor ? I have been thinking of this since when I have my
>> satellite antennas setup at home, I use a setup where my antennas are
>> are pointed at a fixed elevation.
>>
>> Ron
>> KA4KYI
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:28:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IC-W2A as sat rig?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <262423.22523.qm(AT)web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Thanks, John. On further investigation, it seems that
the W2A will not fully suit my needs, due to an odd
issue with this rig. It seems that the W2A will work
cross-band in full duplex mode only, not in half
duplex (in contrast, the W32A allows you to choose
between full duplex and half duplex). This means that
a W2A can only be used for sats with headphones, or
else there will be feedback. Full duplex with
headphones is of course the best way to work the sats,
but sometimes it's just too inconvenient and I'd
prefer to at least have the option of using the HT on
half duplex with the speaker. And if the W2A desenses
as badly as the W32A, then full duplex with headphones
will be a total waste.
I'll test it out as soon as the charger arrives.
73, Bill NZ5N
> * Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IC-W2A as sat rig?
> * From: John Mock KD6PAG <kd6pag(AT)xxxxxxxxx>
> * Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:39:02 -0700
> I had one for several years and it worked very
nicely as a J-FM satellite
rig. I think you made a good choice! Consider
getting an Arrow antenna,
or something comparable. Also, use a casette or voice
recorder, as it's
hard to hold an antenna and a radio, and still write
down callsigns.
If i recall correctly, the IC-W2A has an ordinary
stereo mini-phone
jack, with the speaker on the tip and the microphone
on the ring contacts.
But what you'll really need is a patch cord from the
IC-W2A to the mike
input of your recorder, which might need attenuation.
Write to me if you
need any help with this.
I hope to talk to you soon on AO-27, AO-51, etc. 73's
and good luck!
-- KD6PAG (Networking
Old-Timer, Satellite QRPer)
--- Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:
> I had success on Swan Island with a borrowed
> IC-W32A.
> Today at a hamfest I saw a nice price on an IC-W2A,
> apparently an earlier version of the W32A, so I
> bought
> it. No charger, though, ordered one for $10 from
> R&L.
>
> Anyone used a W2A with the sats? How does it differ
> from the W32A?
>
> I've already noticed that some of the jacks are
> different. I can't use the headset mike I used with
> the W32A, the jack is smaller and won't fit. The
> power supply jack is also different.
>
> 73, Bill NZ5N
>
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:42:33 +0100
From: "Chris Bloy" <chris(AT)photofuture.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-817 use on AO16
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <00c801c8928d$6f3111f0$4d9335d0$(AT)co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Hi all
Has anyone used an FT-817 on AO-16?
I am having issues getting into the repeater, I think partly due to the
amount of stations trying to access! But has anyone managed with 5 watts?
Thanks,
Chris - M0DQO
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:06:17 -0400
From: w0dxz(AT)aol.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] local ( AZ) satellite beams
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Message-ID: <8CA60B04409F52C-102C-CBD(AT)webmail-ne11.sysops.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Anyone in the AZ area, looking for some? big satellite? beams,,,
WA4SVJ(AT)cox. net has some he would like to get rid of... can't ship them.?
Brands -model unknown, I saw them, I THINK one is a KLM, circular polarized,?
maybe 11 el vert, 11 horizontal??? Maybe 18 ft long???? The other is similar,
but I could not tell what brand it was.? Both are for Two Meters.? Also has a
long boom 432 SSB beam, maybe another beam, I can't remember. i told him I'd
help him find a home for them.? He might be able to send some pics of them.
Can be had cheap. Pick up only, near Phoenix?? (Sun City area)
email him,,, nice guy,? his name is Bob
73 Bob W0DXZ DM33
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