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Today's Topics:
1. Re: not getting into the ISS using HRD 4.1 (Bill Dzurilla)
2. Re: AO-51? (January Schedule) (Tony Langdon)
3. AO-51 V/S (Andrew Glasbrenner)
4. Re: AO-51 V/S (Greg Dober)
5. Re: AO-51 V/S (Andrew Glasbrenner)
6. Still not getting into the ISS... (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
7. Re: Still not getting into the ISS... (Tim Tuck)
8. Re: AO-51 V/S (Andrew Glasbrenner)
9. Re: Still not getting into the ISS... (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
10. LOTW - Cabrillo Editing (Clint Bradford)
11. Yep still works!! (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
12. Re: LOTW - Editing (John Klim)
13. Still not getting into the ISS... (MAC1)
14. GO-32 beacon (Mineo Wakita)
15. Re: Still not getting into the ISS... (Roger Kolakowski)
16. Re: AO-51 V/S (Alan P. Biddle)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:53:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: not getting into the ISS using HRD 4.1
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <926184.39320.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I think everyone is having a hard time getting in, just because there are so
many people trying at the same time. When most of the footprint is outside
the CUSA and the repeater is not busy, I can get in easily with just a 19"
ground plane (here in south Florida, there are often passes where Floridians
are in but otherwise the footprint is mostly over water).
Double check that you have the correct new uplink frequency (145.99).
73 and GL,
Bill NZ5N
>>>I am having a problem getting into the ISS,even when its over head.
>>>I can hear the station vary loud. Last night it was almost over head and it
was 40 over, still no luck.
I am using HRD 4.1Build 2019 to run the TS-2000.
I have checked the tone and it should be set for 67hz. and turned on.
It is almost like the tone isnt there.
Will the uplink antenna make that much of a differance? I am using an old
style KLM 143-150-14C without the switch wired up so I cant change it.
The other question I have is...is it better to cant the antennas at a 45*
angle rather than being 90* to ground(looking more like an"X" than "+") ?
I would sure like to get in one time before the mode changes again.
Great web site.
Thanks everyone for the help the last couple of weeks. It make this new mode
a lot more fun.
Marv.
N0FJP
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:42:40 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51? (January Schedule)
To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Tim Goodrich"
<tim@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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At 04:54 AM 1/6/2009, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> > Looks like AO-51 is going to be pretty quiet until Jan 11th.....
>
>Only for those who don't try S band or the BBS! There is typically a good
>amount of activity on V/S, and it was a requested mode this month, as it is
>most months.
Hmm, I found all my S band gear, so I should give this mode a
whirl. Looks like it could be interesting. :)
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:47:31 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 V/S
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Heard this evening so far on V/S:
VE3NPC
KB1RNI
N3MVF
AJ8P
KC9ELU
AK5V
I made an interesting recording of the S band transmitter last pass with
WinRad and my SDR-IQ. The signal peaks about 45 db above the noise! This is
with a 3 ft dish with a patch feed, preamp at the feed, and keps.it
downconverter to a hamtronics converter to the -IQ.
I'll make the recording available to anyone who'd like it, and the software
to play it is available for free at http://www.winrad.org/ . The catch is it
is about 530Mb. Maybe someone has a website they would put it on? Otherwise
if you want it, send me a SASE and blank CD or DVD and I'll make a copy for
you.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:25:55 -0500
From: "Greg Dober" <almetco@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000301c96f9d$b8c90460$6501a8c0@xxxxxxx>
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I had a problem hearing the pass. I see I made it into the bird. I used a
grid parabolic 23.5 x 39.25 x 15 inches with a keps.it downconvertor/preamp.
I could hear some stations fading in and out, but just wasn't strong enough
to hear them all or myself.
That antenna seemed to work well for AO-40, but seemed light on this try.
Next good pass, switching to a 17 turn Directive System circular
polarization antenna. Seeing if my receive will be better for AO-51
Any opinions on the grid vs. cp?
Greg
N3MVF
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:48 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 V/S
Heard this evening so far on V/S:
VE3NPC
KB1RNI
N3MVF
AJ8P
KC9ELU
AK5V
I made an interesting recording of the S band transmitter last pass with
WinRad and my SDR-IQ. The signal peaks about 45 db above the noise! This is
with a 3 ft dish with a patch feed, preamp at the feed, and keps.it
downconverter to a hamtronics converter to the -IQ.
I'll make the recording available to anyone who'd like it, and the software
to play it is available for free at http://www.winrad.org/ . The catch is it
is about 530Mb. Maybe someone has a website they would put it on? Otherwise
if you want it, send me a SASE and blank CD or DVD and I'll make a copy for
you.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:33:57 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
To: "Greg Dober" <almetco@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <F3C9687710E2489BB45F77FC6F113DDF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Put the downconverter RIGHT at the antenna feedpoint. Any coax between the
dish feed and the downconverter or preamp is usually disastrous.
Good Luck!
73, Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Dober" <almetco@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 8:25 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
>I had a problem hearing the pass. I see I made it into the bird. I used a
> grid parabolic 23.5 x 39.25 x 15 inches with a keps.it
> downconvertor/preamp.
> I could hear some stations fading in and out, but just wasn't strong
> enough
> to hear them all or myself.
>
> That antenna seemed to work well for AO-40, but seemed light on this try.
> Next good pass, switching to a 17 turn Directive System circular
> polarization antenna. Seeing if my receive will be better for AO-51
>
> Any opinions on the grid vs. cp?
>
> Greg
> N3MVF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:48 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 V/S
>
> Heard this evening so far on V/S:
> VE3NPC
> KB1RNI
> N3MVF
> AJ8P
> KC9ELU
> AK5V
>
> I made an interesting recording of the S band transmitter last pass with
> WinRad and my SDR-IQ. The signal peaks about 45 db above the noise! This
> is
> with a 3 ft dish with a patch feed, preamp at the feed, and keps.it
> downconverter to a hamtronics converter to the -IQ.
>
> I'll make the recording available to anyone who'd like it, and the
> software
> to play it is available for free at http://www.winrad.org/ . The catch is
> it
>
> is about 530Mb. Maybe someone has a website they would put it on?
> Otherwise
> if you want it, send me a SASE and blank CD or DVD and I'll make a copy
> for
> you.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:49:15 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Still not getting into the ISS...
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1231206555.13249.6.camel@xxxxx>
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I tried again just now on the (fairly high) pass over the UK and EU.
Heard a couple of EA and SM stations on, but I couldn't open the
repeater myself.
I had my Kenwood TH-F7E handheld with the cross-band Yagi, and a
Jingtong JT-308 with its own rubber duck listening for the downlink.
The Jingtong was picking up a huge signal from the ISS - very very good
reception indeed. I just couldn't seem to get the repeater to open for
me at all though. Any suggestions? I know the TH-F7E and antenna work
well for LEO satellites, so I figured it would work for the ISS.
Gordon
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:11:37 +1100
From: "Tim Tuck" <timt@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Still not getting into the ISS...
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4962BDD9.7070309@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote:
> I tried again just now on the (fairly high) pass over the UK and EU.
> Heard a couple of EA and SM stations on, but I couldn't open the
> repeater myself.
>
No probs here in Australia... you are using a 67Hz PL tone aren't you ?
cheers
Tim
--
VK2XTT :: QF56if :: BMARC :: WIA :: AMSAT-VK :: AMSAT
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:30:38 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A755C718A4724CFCB3215C2CC3F3A25B@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I clipped out 20 seconds of the SDR recording and it zips down to less than
5Mb. If anyone wants a copy emailed to them let me know. Just remember
you'll need WinRad or maybe some other SDR program to listen/watch it.
WinRad is free and can be downloaded online.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:47 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 V/S
> Heard this evening so far on V/S:
> VE3NPC
> KB1RNI
> N3MVF
> AJ8P
> KC9ELU
> AK5V
>
> I made an interesting recording of the S band transmitter last pass with
> WinRad and my SDR-IQ. The signal peaks about 45 db above the noise! This
> is
> with a 3 ft dish with a patch feed, preamp at the feed, and keps.it
> downconverter to a hamtronics converter to the -IQ.
>
> I'll make the recording available to anyone who'd like it, and the
> software
> to play it is available for free at http://www.winrad.org/ . The catch is
> it
> is about 530Mb. Maybe someone has a website they would put it on?
> Otherwise
> if you want it, send me a SASE and blank CD or DVD and I'll make a copy
> for
> you.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:34:24 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Still not getting into the ISS...
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1231209264.13249.9.camel@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 13:11 +1100, Tim Tuck wrote:
> Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote:
> > I tried again just now on the (fairly high) pass over the UK and EU.
> > Heard a couple of EA and SM stations on, but I couldn't open the
> > repeater myself.
> >
> No probs here in Australia... you are using a 67Hz PL tone aren't you ?
Yep. I checked the aerial, and can lift a nearby (25 miles or so)
repeater with 500mW (power set to L). So presumably the 2m antenna and
2m half of the diplexer are healthy.
Gordon
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:32:11 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW - Cabrillo Editing
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <E8FB8BC6-A95B-4A97-86EB-D0670C6E2E28@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
I received this inquiry this evening ... Can anyone point me to the
answer???
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
I have 133 satellite contacts made through RS-12 when I lived in
Hawaii. I was logging then on a program that is no longer published.
A friend helped me convert the old log format to Cabrillo (one of two
acceptable input formats for Logbook of the World). However, there is
some additional data needed for each contact to show satellite mode
and satellite name. I can find how to add that info in ADIF (the
other format accepted by LoTW) but not in Cabrillo.
Here's what a line of Cabrillo input looks like; the data is column-
position-sensitive:
QSO: 21000 CW 1994-03-20 0109 N6VI/KH6 599 31 W2HG 599 00
Do you have any idea how to modify a line of contact data in Cabrillo
so that it is correctly shown as a satellite contact in LoTW?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:38:31 +0000
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yep still works!!
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx (AMSAT-BB)
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Hello
This evening (0325Z) on AO-51 my old S band AO-40 (sobsob) still works!! No
one else was on, only the west coast was available. The biggest challange is
tracking the fast moving AO-51 with a 3 foot primestar dish with out auto
tracking (next project).
think HEO 2009
73 Bob W7LRD
--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:47:31 -0500
From: "John Klim" <john.klim@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LOTW - Editing
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <DE40C80FD2B34DA581778B9E8B4543A1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Clint,
ADIF specification: http://www.adif.org/adif222.htm
Cabrillo specification: http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/
I hope these two links help.
73 ES CUL
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John Klim
N3KHK
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:32 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW - Cabrillo Editing
I received this inquiry this evening ... Can anyone point me to the
answer???
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
I have 133 satellite contacts made through RS-12 when I lived in
Hawaii. I was logging then on a program that is no longer published.
A friend helped me convert the old log format to Cabrillo (one of two
acceptable input formats for Logbook of the World). However, there is
some additional data needed for each contact to show satellite mode
and satellite name. I can find how to add that info in ADIF (the
other format accepted by LoTW) but not in Cabrillo.
Here's what a line of Cabrillo input looks like; the data is column-
position-sensitive:
QSO: 21000 CW 1994-03-20 0109 N6VI/KH6 599 31 W2HG 599 00
Do you have any idea how to modify a line of contact data in Cabrillo
so that it is correctly shown as a satellite contact in LoTW?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:25:23 -0800
From: MAC1 <dimtcho@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Still not getting into the ISS...
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <0F4D2420-EF0E-43F1-A7B2-45F474BD91F8@xxxx.xx>
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Hi Gordon,
I had a chance to talk to Mike from the ISS on Saturday for 7-8
minutes.
I was the only station at the time (3 AM..) During the pass I tried
to adjust to minimum power
and my pre-amp on and off. My feeling is that 5 W is not enough to
keep the ISS squelch open.
The pre-amp made a difference on low elevation. I used 25W, 120 FT
LMR 400 coax, 4 element Yagi on 48ft tower,
automatic AZ/ EL and automatic doppler with SatPC32.
Dino
VE7XDT
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:10:12 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GO-32 beacon
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <56C96FDE94A221ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
GO-32 is now transmitting KISS beacon every 30 seconds.
[2009/01/06 08:54:14z] TechSat-V4.2 ...
[2009/01/06 08:54:44z] TechSat-V4.2 ...
[2009/01/06 08:55:14z] TechSat-V4.2 ...
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:03:46 -0500
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Still not getting into the ISS...
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004801c96fe6$10bc31e0$0300a8c0@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
An interesting thought...could they have the squelch engaged while also
requiring tone? I personally haven't been able to get in on 80 degree passes
over New England with 25 watts and an omni at 5:30 AM local time.
Reception is just fine, but there are a lot of "empty" spaces in between
contacts that could be collisions I guess...
Roger
WA1KAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "MAC1" <dimtcho@xxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:25 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Still not getting into the ISS...
> Hi Gordon,
>
> I had a chance to talk to Mike from the ISS on Saturday for 7-8
> minutes.
> I was the only station at the time (3 AM..) During the pass I tried
> to adjust to minimum power
> and my pre-amp on and off. My feeling is that 5 W is not enough to
> keep the ISS squelch open.
> The pre-amp made a difference on low elevation. I used 25W, 120 FT
> LMR 400 coax, 4 element Yagi on 48ft tower,
> automatic AZ/ EL and automatic doppler with SatPC32.
>
> Dino
> VE7XDT
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:57:29 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E03E9E918F3D4040A73847AC191DE2F9@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Drew,
Worked N5UXT this AM, and even with the heavy rains here, good signal as
always. It was ONLY S9+20 with a 30" dish. Definitely a HiFi mode, and one
where you can have an honest QSO!
Alan
WA4SCA
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