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Today's Topics:

1. Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847 (Tim Tapio)
2. Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847 (Simon (HB9DRV))
3. Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847 (JoAnne Maenpaa)
4. Re: ISS L/V repeater attempt (Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR])
5. Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847 (Alan P. Biddle)
6. Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847 (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
7. Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847 (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
8. Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847 (Edward Cole)
9. Re: What would be a good radio ??? (Sebastian)
10. Re: What would be a good radio ??? (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
11. Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847 (James French)
12.  L band radio (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
13. Re: What would be a good radio ??? (Greg D.)
14. Re: What would be a good radio ??? (Mark Spencer)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:13:56 -0500
From: "Tim Tapio" <tim@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847
To: "'Michael J. Wolthuis'" <wolthui3@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004b01c96ddf$cf1bccd0$6d536670$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hmmmm, this BB is great....same questions I've been asking myself as of
late....

73 de Tim, K4SHF



-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Michael J. Wolthuis
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:01 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847

I am excited with all the late use of 1.2ghz and want to get involved.
I have an FT-847, which doesn't have a 1.2ghz option.  So what are others
doing?

Here were my thoughts....

1) Add a 910 for 1.2ghz - expensive
2) Utilize my TS-2000 (currently HF) for 1.2ghz by adding UT-20 - not sure
how hard the add-on is to do
3) Buy another radio (?????) for 1.2ghz use
4) Is there some way to use the FT-847?

If there is references out there to this, Google did not do me well,
please
send links and pointers.

Thanks and hopefully I'll be on 1.2ghz soon.  I have an antenna and 50ft
of
inch and a quarter to the shack on the Sat rotator, but just never hooked
it
too anything.

Mike
kb8zgl

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:20:17 +0100
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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IC-703 + something from Kuhne Electronic?

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Tapio" <tim@xxxxxxxx.xxx>


> Hmmmm, this BB is great....same questions I've been asking myself as of
> late....


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:32:45 -0600
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000b01c96de2$702725a0$507570e0$@xxx>
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Hi Mike,

> If there is references out there to this, Google did not do me well,
> please send links and pointers.

Many microwave links can be found at:
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/microwave.html

Depending upon your desire to build a transverter there is an article for
a
144MHz-1.2GHz version at these links.
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/23cmxv.pdf
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/23cmxvtmplt.pdf
Downeast Microwave also sells a transverter with 28 MHz IF.

Scroll down the microwave page for other commercial supplier links, etc.

http://www.wa1mba.org/ is another good place to get started.  There is a
link to join a microwave e-mail reflector list here too.

Hope this gets you started.
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:53:16 -0600
From: "Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]" <Kenneth.G.Ransom@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS L/V repeater attempt
To: <jeffk13057@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<A2862DA1C49F4145AF6C2A452829403501C91B27@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>
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The PL is 67.0.

Kenneth - N5VHO

________________________________

From: Jeffrey Koehler [mailto:jeffk13057@xxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Sat 1/3/2009 10:08 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS L/V repeater attempt




Ken...

Happy holidays to you and your family.

Do you happen to know the PL freq? I cannot find documentation of it
anywhere.

Thanks, 73
Jeff WB2SYK

--- On Sat, 1/3/09, Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]
<Kenneth.G.Ransom@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> From: Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR] <Kenneth.G.Ransom@xxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS L/V repeater attempt
> To: "N1MIW" <n1miw@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 8:58 AM
> The ISS should have switched to V/u with PL after the school
> contact with Technopolis today (Sat, Jan 3). It should be in
> the V/u with PL configuration until Jan 17.
>
> Kenneth - N5VHO
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx on behalf of N1MIW
> Sent: Fri 1/2/2009 11:21 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS L/V repeater attempt
>
>
>
> I will try to be QRV on the next pass for RI (~6:34UTC).
> I'm working my way
> back into satellites & need to get some use out of my
> 1.2GHz gear. Just
> listened to the 04:50UTC pass & heard a 2 and an 8
> call, but didn't get the
> whole thing. It seemed like the squelch is set too high -
> hope my 45el loop
> yagi & 10 watts will make it! I'll be manually
> tuning the rig for now... If
> it works well, I'll connect the rig to a computer
> tomorrow!
>
> Anyone have an idea how long the ISS repeater will be in
> L/V mode?
>
>
> 73's from FN41
> Larry
> N1MIW
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:57:31 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <8CE3450B885A4CF8B7A3482F3E13C525@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Mike,

The TS-2000 is a very capable satellite rig, and the 1.2 gig module will
get
you on mode L.  According to the sales sites, you need to have the module
installed by a dealer or from the factory.  So in one sense, the
installation is easy.  Let somebody else do it.  ;)  At about $500-600
plus
installation, it is probably comparable in cost to a good external
transverter and avoids all the quirks of interfacing and deciding which IF
to use.  Note that 10 watts out is really marginal, and you need an
amplifier in the 50-100 watt range along with a good antenna to make
satellite operating more than a chore.

The FT-847 works well with a transverter.  I regularly operate AO-51 in
the
various modes using mode L as an uplink, and with a little recabling
worked
the ISS in mode LV about as well as could be done.  There is a brief note
in
the July/August AMSAT Journal about using TX transverters with 2 meter IFs
when you need to be able to RX on 2 meters.

One thing to consider whether you are talking about amplifiers or
transverters, is that terrestrial communication centers around 1296 MHz,
while space communication centers around 1269 MHz.  Almost all equipment
is
designed for the higher and much more common frequency.  The amps often
need
retuning for the lower frequency, and are less efficient.  Likewise,
transverters will require significantly different crystals to get the IF
where you can use it.

Going with the TS-2000 and adding a brick amp is the easiest and cleanest
way, but if you are a good scrounger, not necessarily the cheapest.

Alan
WA4SCA





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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:06:39 +0000
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<010320092106.21265.495FD35F000600970000531122120207840B9D04C999@xxxxxxx
.xxx>
	
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here's your amp.  I have one tuned for the middle of 1268 & 1296.  I get
about
50-60 watts out.
73 Bob W7LRD

--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>

> Mike,
>
> The TS-2000 is a very capable satellite rig, and the 1.2 gig module will get
> you on mode L. According to the sales sites, you need to have the module
> installed by a dealer or from the factory. So in one sense, the
> installation is easy. Let somebody else do it. ;) At about $500-600 plus
> installation, it is probably comparable in cost to a good external
> transverter and avoids all the quirks of interfacing and deciding which IF
> to use. Note that 10 watts out is really marginal, and you need an
> amplifier in the 50-100 watt range along with a good antenna to make
> satellite operating more than a chore.
>
> The FT-847 works well with a transverter. I regularly operate AO-51 in the
> various modes using mode L as an uplink, and with a little recabling worked
> the ISS in mode LV about as well as could be done. There is a brief note in
> the July/August AMSAT Journal about using TX transverters with 2 meter IFs
> when you need to be able to RX on 2 meters.
>
> One thing to consider whether you are talking about amplifiers or
> transverters, is that terrestrial communication centers around 1296 MHz,
> while space communication centers around 1269 MHz. Almost all equipment is
> designed for the higher and much more common frequency. The amps often need
> retuning for the lower frequency, and are less efficient. Likewise,
> transverters will require significantly different crystals to get the IF
> where you can use it.
>
> Going with the TS-2000 and adding a brick amp is the easiest and cleanest
> way, but if you are a good scrounger, not necessarily the cheapest.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:09:06 +0000
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<010320092109.23947.495FD3F20007959F00005D8B22120207840B9D04C999@xxxxxxx
.xxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain

I forgot to include the link
http://users.innercite.com/kj6ko/
73 W7LRD

--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>

> Mike,
>
> The TS-2000 is a very capable satellite rig, and the 1.2 gig module will get
> you on mode L. According to the sales sites, you need to have the module
> installed by a dealer or from the factory. So in one sense, the
> installation is easy. Let somebody else do it. ;) At about $500-600 plus
> installation, it is probably comparable in cost to a good external
> transverter and avoids all the quirks of interfacing and deciding which IF
> to use. Note that 10 watts out is really marginal, and you need an
> amplifier in the 50-100 watt range along with a good antenna to make
> satellite operating more than a chore.
>
> The FT-847 works well with a transverter. I regularly operate AO-51 in the
> various modes using mode L as an uplink, and with a little recabling worked
> the ISS in mode LV about as well as could be done. There is a brief note in
> the July/August AMSAT Journal about using TX transverters with 2 meter IFs
> when you need to be able to RX on 2 meters.
>
> One thing to consider whether you are talking about amplifiers or
> transverters, is that terrestrial communication centers around 1296 MHz,
> while space communication centers around 1269 MHz. Almost all equipment is
> designed for the higher and much more common frequency. The amps often need
> retuning for the lower frequency, and are less efficient. Likewise,
> transverters will require significantly different crystals to get the IF
> where you can use it.
>
> Going with the TS-2000 and adding a brick amp is the easiest and cleanest
> way, but if you are a good scrounger, not necessarily the cheapest.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:06:55 -0900
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847
To: "Michael J. Wolthuis" <wolthui3@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <200901032110.n03LAJjE043086@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Mike,

I use an FT-847 on 2m converted to 1268 by a 15w transmitting
converter that was made by DEMI (original cost $450).  However it is
no longer made by them.  They tooled up before AO-40 failed and got
stuck with inventory with no market.  I suspect that they will not
make another until an established Heo is orbiting on mode-L.  Not
enough market for them.
http://www.downeastmicrowave.com/

It is my understanding that Kuhne Engineering in Germany is producing
a 144/1268 Tx converter:
http://www.kuhne-
electronic.de/en/shop/146_Sendekonverter/article:140_MKU_UP_13_OTX

It only outputs 1w so you would need a PA to follow it:
http://www.kuhne-
electronic.de/en/shop/142_Leistungsverstaerker/article:206_MKU_PA_1330_A

this would give you 30w.

You can order from Kuhne directly from Germany.  They have a dealer
in the US: ssbusa, but I do not recommend them either on cost or
speed of delivery.  You will pay shipping from Europe and have to
transfer funds into Euros.  Kuhne equipment is excellent quality but
at a price.  I did not find a price page so you may have to e-mai for
info.  Michael Kuhne is DB6NT, a well respected mw engineer and mw ham.

73, Ed - KL7UW
80m to 3cm


At 10:01 AM 1/3/2009, Michael J. Wolthuis wrote:
>I am excited with all the late use of 1.2ghz and want to get involved.
>I have an FT-847, which doesn't have a 1.2ghz option.  So what are
>others doing?
>
>Here were my thoughts....
>
>1) Add a 910 for 1.2ghz - expensive
>2) Utilize my TS-2000 (currently HF) for 1.2ghz by adding UT-20 - not
>sure how hard the add-on is to do
>3) Buy another radio (?????) for 1.2ghz use
>4) Is there some way to use the FT-847?
>
>If there is references out there to this, Google did not do me well,
>please send links and pointers.
>
>Thanks and hopefully I'll be on 1.2ghz soon.  I have an antenna and 50ft
>of inch and a quarter to the shack on the Sat rotator, but just never
>hooked it too anything.
>
>Mike
>kb8zgl
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:11:25 -0500
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What would be a good radio ???
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E51DBF85-F599-4F33-8482-DB43E7522B45@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

ICOM IC-910H if you want 1.2 GHz.  Radio is in production, a bit on
the expensive side, but you get what you pay for.

Otherwise a Yaesu FT-847; no longer in production, doesn't have 1.2
GHz but can be added with a transverter.  The Yaesu FT-736R is still
an excellent radio but really getting old, and parts may be a problem;
many suffer from broken internal power supplies, however you can use
an external one.

If I missed any, I'm sure someone else will give you more ideas.

I also have a TS-2000 for HF, but use the FT-847 for satellite work.
Some have said that if you use a mast mounted preamp for 440 MHz, and
disable the TS-2000's internal preamp, that significantly cuts out the
birdy.  I haven't tried that because my preamps are fed their voltage
directly with the coax via the FT-847.  The TS-2000 doesn't have that
capability; why that was left out doesn't make any sense to me.


73 de W4AS
Sebastian

On Jan 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, racer5039 wrote:

> I have a TS-2000 that I am using now to work the birds but am you
> all know the Kenwood TS-2000 has a problem with the down link at or
> around 436.800.
> My question is...what would be a good radio to use on these birds?
> Maybe something that would cover the 1.2G stuff as well.
> Thansk to all those that helped me out with the SSB Sat tuning.
> It has really helped me out.
> Thanks again.
>
> Marv
> N0FJP
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> author.
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> program!
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:36:29 +0000
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What would be a good radio ???
To: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<010320092136.3174.495FDA5D000B3C9C00000C6622120207840B9D04C999@xxxxxxx.
xxx>
	
Content-Type: text/plain

Don't forget the IC-1271A. Icoms 1.2Ghz  10W transceiver no longer being
produced.  They are rare and still command a high price.  I found one from
this BB several years ago.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle

--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>

> ICOM IC-910H if you want 1.2 GHz. Radio is in production, a bit on
> the expensive side, but you get what you pay for.
>
> Otherwise a Yaesu FT-847; no longer in production, doesn't have 1.2
> GHz but can be added with a transverter. The Yaesu FT-736R is still
> an excellent radio but really getting old, and parts may be a problem;
> many suffer from broken internal power supplies, however you can use
> an external one.
>
> If I missed any, I'm sure someone else will give you more ideas.
>
> I also have a TS-2000 for HF, but use the FT-847 for satellite work.
> Some have said that if you use a mast mounted preamp for 440 MHz, and
> disable the TS-2000's internal preamp, that significantly cuts out the
> birdy. I haven't tried that because my preamps are fed their voltage
> directly with the coax via the FT-847. The TS-2000 doesn't have that
> capability; why that was left out doesn't make any sense to me.
>
>
> 73 de W4AS
> Sebastian
>
> On Jan 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, racer5039 wrote:
>
> > I have a TS-2000 that I am using now to work the birds but am you
> > all know the Kenwood TS-2000 has a problem with the down link at or
> > around 436.800.
> > My question is...what would be a good radio to use on these birds?
> > Maybe something that would cover the 1.2G stuff as well.
> > Thansk to all those that helped me out with the SSB Sat tuning.
> > It has really helped me out.
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Marv
> > N0FJP
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> > author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
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>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:41:25 -0500
From: James French <w8iss@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to do 1.2ghz when sat radio is FT-847
To: "Michael J. Wolthuis" <wolthui3@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1231018885.2232.14.camel@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

If you like to build a transverter, Paul, W1GHZ, has designed a bunch of
CHEAP to build units and has poted the information on his web pages at
www.w1ghz.org.

Here's the direct link to the Multi band Microwave Transverter project
that he gave a talk at Microwave Update about this past year:
http://www.w1ghz.org/MBT/multiband.htm

I am currently building the 900Mhz version and still have to acquire the
MMICs for it as I have found that I have misplaced the bag that I had
from years ago.

BTW, I do have a extra DEMI board model number 1296-144 that I would be
willing to part with if your interested. Just the PCB board. The cost of
acquiring parts on my own cost me about 75 dollars ten years ago though
and I don't know how 'unobtainiam' some of the parts used are now a days
though. It could be used for 1260 Sat or 1296 Terrestrial depending on
what crystal was installed.

James W8ISS
=====

On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 14:01 -0500, Michael J. Wolthuis wrote:
> I am excited with all the late use of 1.2ghz and want to get involved.
> I have an FT-847, which doesn't have a 1.2ghz option.  So what are
> others doing?
>
> Here were my thoughts....
>
> 1) Add a 910 for 1.2ghz - expensive
> 2) Utilize my TS-2000 (currently HF) for 1.2ghz by adding UT-20 - not
> sure how hard the add-on is to do
> 3) Buy another radio (?????) for 1.2ghz use
> 4) Is there some way to use the FT-847?
>
> If there is references out there to this, Google did not do me well,
> please send links and pointers.
>
> Thanks and hopefully I'll be on 1.2ghz soon.  I have an antenna and 50ft
> of inch and a quarter to the shack on the Sat rotator, but just never
> hooked it too anything.
>
> Mike
> kb8zgl
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:55:24 +0000
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  L band radio
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Hello All
With the latest interest in 1.2Ghz.  I found this on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Icom-IC-1271A-1-2-Gig-1296-All-mode-Transciever-
IC_W0QQitemZ150318537069QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1503
185
37069&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%
7C2
40%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
I do not know the fellow selling it.  I do own one and find it an
excellent
radio.
73 Bob W7LRD


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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:04:57 -0800
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What would be a good radio ???
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The ICOM 1271A is a nice rig.  All mode, and it covers all of the 23cm
band.
I have one, and have made contacts through AO-51 barefoot with an 18-turn
helix.  Sounded like I had a full quieting signal.  No luck through ISS
last
night, but I expect it's at least partly because my antenna is the wrong
polarization.

The only problem with the 1271 is that you need a couple of other modules
in
order to get any sort of computer control over it, and they're probably
scarcer than the rig itself.  Working AO-51 with manual tuning isn't too
bad,
but it keeps you busy.  One hand on the knob, one on the PTT, and one eye
on
the Doppler readout from the computer.

If anybody has a Yaesu 736R 1.2 ghz module (or even the whole rig, with
1.2
included), I'd really like to work out some sort of trade.  The 736R has
its
quirks and is a bit on the old side, but it's worked well for me.  There's
no
terrestrial 23cm activity accessible from my location (in a bit of a
hole), so
satellites are what it's all about, and I'd like to simplify and automate
where I can.

Greg  KO6TH


> From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:36:29 +0000
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What would be a good radio ???
>
> Don't forget the IC-1271A. Icoms 1.2Ghz  10W transceiver no longer being
produced.  They are rare and still command a high price.  I found one from
this BB several years ago.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Seattle
>
> --
> "if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>
> > ICOM IC-910H if you want 1.2 GHz. Radio is in production, a bit on
> > the expensive side, but you get what you pay for.
> >
> > Otherwise a Yaesu FT-847; no longer in production, doesn't have 1.2
> > GHz but can be added with a transverter. The Yaesu FT-736R is still
> > an excellent radio but really getting old, and parts may be a problem;
> > many suffer from broken internal power supplies, however you can use
> > an external one.
> >
> > If I missed any, I'm sure someone else will give you more ideas.
> >
> > I also have a TS-2000 for HF, but use the FT-847 for satellite work.
> > Some have said that if you use a mast mounted preamp for 440 MHz, and
> > disable the TS-2000's internal preamp, that significantly cuts out the
> > birdy. I haven't tried that because my preamps are fed their voltage
> > directly with the coax via the FT-847. The TS-2000 doesn't have that
> > capability; why that was left out doesn't make any sense to me.
> >
> >
> > 73 de W4AS
> > Sebastian
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, racer5039 wrote:
> >
> > > I have a TS-2000 that I am using now to work the birds but am you
> > > all know the Kenwood TS-2000 has a problem with the down link at or
> > > around 436.800.
> > > My question is...what would be a good radio to use on these birds?
> > > Maybe something that would cover the 1.2G stuff as well.
> > > Thansk to all those that helped me out with the SSB Sat tuning.
> > > It has really helped me out.
> > > Thanks again.
> > >
> > > Marv
> > > N0FJP
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:59:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Mark Spencer <mspencer12345@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What would be a good radio ???
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On a somewhat related note does any one have any comments as to the
performance of the TS2000 on 1.2Ghz ????

I also have an FT736 but have been out bid once on ebay for the 1.2Ghz
module
and I'm reluctant to spend over $800.00 for a used module for an older
radio.?? It's a shame the FT736 is out of production.???I've been very
happy
with mine.

I've more or less decided to pick up a TS 2000 with the 1.2 ghz module at
some
point.??? I can probably live with the birdie issues on 70 cm and
hopefully my
FT736 will continue to chug along for the forseable future.??? (I also
have
the 220 mhz module for the 736 and may hang on to it for that reason
alone.)

Regards and 73
Mark
VE7AFZ



?



________________________________
From: Greg D. <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 2:04:57 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What would be a good radio ???


The ICOM 1271A is a nice rig.? All mode, and it covers all of the 23cm
band.?
I have one, and have made contacts through AO-51 barefoot with an 18-turn
helix.? Sounded like I had a full quieting signal.? No luck through ISS
last
night, but I expect it's at least partly because my antenna is the wrong
polarization.

The only problem with the 1271 is that you need a couple of other modules
in
order to get any sort of computer control over it, and they're probably
scarcer than the rig itself.? Working AO-51 with manual tuning isn't too
bad,
but it keeps you busy.? One hand on the knob, one on the PTT, and one eye
on
the Doppler readout from the computer.

If anybody has a Yaesu 736R 1.2 ghz module (or even the whole rig, with
1.2
included), I'd really like to work out some sort of trade.? The 736R has
its
quirks and is a bit on the old side, but it's worked well for me.? There's
no
terrestrial 23cm activity accessible from my location (in a bit of a
hole), so
satellites are what it's all about, and I'd like to simplify and automate
where I can.

Greg? KO6TH


> From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:36:29 +0000
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What would be a good radio ???
>
> Don't forget the IC-1271A. Icoms 1.2Ghz? 10W transceiver no longer being
produced.? They are rare and still command a high price.? I found one from
this BB several years ago.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Seattle
>
> --
> "if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>
> > ICOM IC-910H if you want 1.2 GHz. Radio is in production, a bit on
> > the expensive side, but you get what you pay for.
> >
> > Otherwise a Yaesu FT-847; no longer in production, doesn't have 1.2
> > GHz but can be added with a transverter. The Yaesu FT-736R is still
> > an excellent radio but really getting old, and parts may be a problem;
> > many suffer from broken internal power supplies, however you can use
> > an external one.
> >
> > If I missed any, I'm sure someone else will give you more ideas.
> >
> > I also have a TS-2000 for HF, but use the FT-847 for satellite work.
> > Some have said that if you use a mast mounted preamp for 440 MHz, and
> > disable the TS-2000's internal preamp, that significantly cuts out the
> > birdy. I haven't tried that because my preamps are fed their voltage
> > directly with the coax via the FT-847. The TS-2000 doesn't have that
> > capability; why that was left out doesn't make any sense to me.
> >
> >
> > 73 de W4AS
> > Sebastian
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, racer5039 wrote:
> >
> > > I have a TS-2000 that I am using now to work the birds but am you
> > > all know the Kenwood TS-2000 has a problem with the down link at or
> > > around 436.800.
> > > My question is...what would be a good radio to use on these birds?
> > > Maybe something that would cover the 1.2G stuff as well.
> > > Thansk to all those that helped me out with the SSB Sat tuning.
> > > It has really helped me out.
> > > Thanks again.
> > >
> > > Marv
> > > N0FJP
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> > > author.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > > program!
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> >
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