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Today's Topics:
1. 2008 was fantastic - and: a Happy New Year ! (Henk, PA3GUO)
2. Re: Amateur Satellites mentioned on BBC News (Clint Bradford)
3. Happy Holidays To All (Bill Ress)
4. Re: 2008 was fantastic - and: a Happy New Year ! (GW1FKY@xxx.xxxx
5. Happy Birthday Earthrise (Clint Bradford)
6. Re: ESEO Project latest news! (Bruce Robertson)
7. Earthrise - add (Clint Bradford)
8. Happy Holidays (Bill Greene)
9. Re: ESEO Project latest news! (Graham Shirville)
10. AO-7 Log screw-up (N3TL@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
11. Re: Earthrise - add (Rocky Jones)
12. A Quantum Mechanical Analysis of the Santa Claus problem
(Daniel Schultz)
13. Re: Earthrise - add (Joe Fitzgerald)
14. A politically correct Christmas greeting (Alan P. Biddle)
15. AO-51 Telemetry (Peter)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:48:40 +0100 (CET)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2008 was fantastic - and: a Happy New Year !
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1165.212.61.85.20.1230151720.squirrel@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
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Dear satellite radio friends,
With the end of the year approaching, I feel the need share
how much I appreciate and enjoy all the fun we have on this
amsat-bb. Where we discuss, help, ask, and challenge eachother
with our shared love: amateur radio satellites. 2008 has again
been a truly fantastic year; just to name a few things I recall
(at the risk to overlook all those others);
Delfi-C3:
2008 brought us a new, well working satellite with a transponder!
A brand new satellite where industry, university and radio-amateurs
worked together in defining, building and operating a spacecraft.
A big project where various objectives got successfully merged into
a small Cubesat. Many aspects on the behaviour of the sat to
observe and validate, at least it kept me very excited back in May:
http://www.pa3guo.com/dc3_12may08_2045utc_pa3guo_spin_145.930.jpg
Delfi-C3 also brought to my attention that my PC cannot share its
line-input over more than one program at the time, something to
fix in 2009 !
AO51
My favorite FM satellite to operate portable during the summer
holidays. This year I operated as OK/PA3GUO and had despite all
the QRM many fun contacts around Europe. Always a good exercise !
http://www.pa3guo.com/holiday_2008.html
Its the 23cm up / 70 down modes were new for me, now I had the
(from Rob, PE1ITR borrowed) 35 elements TONNA for 23cm. I made
my first QSOs in L/U mode. For this I first needed to get 435.150
downlink working, and I built with good help of Domenico, I8CVS
a polarization switch for the old Cushcraft 70 cm antenna.
http://www.pa3guo.com/cushcraft_416tb.html Finally, the SSTV
'mode' as preparation for the ISS experiments was also new fun.
Yes, often AO51 is a lot of chaos, but next to that it has very
interesting modes to use and explore.
Thanks to the AO51 team for keeping us busy !
Cute1.7+APD-II
As I wanted to help the project team to collect as much as
possible CW telemetry, I did set up my remote access using the
www.logmein.com software. Now I could remotely gather & forward
the telemetry, from QRL but also while enjoying the good summer
evenings in my backyard: http://www.pa3guo.com/cute_ops_pa3guo.jpg.
PE1ITR was so kind to loan me his 23cm beam, to prepare myself
for the 23cm packet uplink of this new satellite.... it showed
that while our Japanse friends can digipeat over it I can't (yet),
so I need to review if my antenna cable is good enough
... some day in 2009.
SEEDS
A new satellite, that provides an SSTV beacon in space, great
for demonstration purposes. While I have a very clumsy set-up;
holding a microphone in front of my loudspeaker, the picture
is cool to receive. Also it transmits a 'secret' code in VOICE.
I have listened to it a thousand times, but one character I still
cannot really 'hear'. Has anyone gotten this confirmed from the
project team ? Anyway: thanks for a new satellite to experiment
with ! http://www.pa3guo.com/seeds.html
ISS
Especially in the last months a lot of new things to experiment
(and this is what amateur radio is all about right ?). SSTV
operations brought the ISS crew very close to us, remarkable
how appealing receiving pictures with this old technology
still is. Also the voice operations by Richard were a through
inspiration. I was there to hear him talking for the first time
with his dad while he was flying over Europe, and his dad in
Moscow ground control. Also new packet modes: 9k6 worked SO good.
A good back-up communication system for Emergency Communication
(or SSET as Bob would call this :-)) The last few days of the
year also promise new tests with the repeater mode in 23cm uplink
configuration: let's see how the D700 receives at 1.2GHz !
PCSAT
The old lady is running out of batteries, but is today still
the only APRS satellite that we have flying around 24/7 in
this mode. Even though we slowly lose control due to the
automatic resets, we still LEARN a lot regarding how to
operate in bad conditions (looking at angle of the sun for
optimum power, radio channel clearance etc). PCSAT is also
still a good test vehicle for anyone to set-up a fully automated
tracking station (read: have a receiver listening 24/7 to
145.825 and Igate all received traffic to the internet).
Having this available NOW is a good way to be prepared for
anything unexpected (eg. emergencies). On one hand very easy,
on the other hand it looks simpler as it is (keep a PC running
24/7 un-attended and not to loose the internet link). Good stuff... !
http://www.pa3guo.com/pcsat_cmd_dec2008.jpg
AO7:
Always fascinating to hear the 10mtr signals travelling all
the way from space into my small wire antenna, amazing how
clear CW sounds !
Yubileiny
Haven't really figured out yet what its use for me will be,
but it sure is another strong signal that can serve as
a testvehicle for stuff like automated antenna tracking,
doppler correction, telemetry decoding and storage.
http://www.pa3guo.com/yubileiny_24may08_pa3guo_435.315_cw_short.jpg
Compass:
Have seen great support from the amateur community: first of all
Mike, DK3WN, who is clearly in the lead helping out the university
controlling the satellite. Great that when Mike asked for help,
many HAMs around the world stepped in and tried to 'save' Compass.
For me: to be able to decode the MSK downlink of Compass I need
to connect the radio's audio to my PC. Missing for that is a proper
(optical) audio interface, this is now my holiday project in the
next 2 weeks... will keep me busy for while :-)
AO27
... you won't believe it, but only this year I made my first
contact via AO-27. Folks QRV here you don't hear on the other
FM sat's. Great bird !
AO16
After 18 years in space, I finally made my first QSO via this
satellite. Fantastic idea of the AO16 team to have the satellite
configured as FM/SSB transponder ! http://www.pa3guo.com/ao16.html
Looking back 2008 was a truly exciting year with many new satellites,
as well as new modes of operations of existing satellites.
Most important;
a year of a lot of new satellite radio-friends via this AMSAT-BB !
HAM radio remains for me both a source of inspiration, as well as
a hobby shared with many good friends around the world.
I wish all of you a Healthy & Happy New Year !
Warm regards,
Henk, PA3GUO
http://www.pa3guo.com
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:06:11 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites mentioned on BBC News
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <C0BA4CFC-3EAF-4F96-930A-D8A1C57A27CE@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Someone in England should send a "thank you" to the BBC ... either via
their online "BBC News website feedback" page or to their postal
address ...
BBC News Web Site
Room 7540
BBC Television Centre
Wood Lane
London
W12 7RJ
This media contact can prove to be very useful in the future!
Clint Bradford
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:18:01 -0800
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy Holidays To All
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4952B519.5060300@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello to all,
As Henk, PA3GUO pointed out so well, we have many operational satellites to be
thankful for. But, we're always anxious for even more and better satellites
and as a new member of the AMSAT-NA management team I can tell you that the
organization is working very hard to redefine itself along it's revised
Mission Vision, with the sincere desire to bring even more exciting satellites
to the Amateur satellite community.
So, as we head into an uncertain New Year on many fronts, be certain that
AMSAT-NA is working hard to deserve you support and membership.
To all of you, my best wishes for a happy Holiday season and a much better New
Year.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:25:46 EST
From: GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 2008 was fantastic - and: a Happy New Year !
To: hamoen@xxx.xxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <ce8.4763a9e7.368410ea@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi Hank,
A very well put together summary of the hobby and this years amateur
satellite events etc.
May I also ( I am sure on behalf of many ) also say thank you to you for
your very valuable contribution
in passing on your feedback and information via your web page.
Seeing your success and your time and effort bringing success with the
satellites, has I am sure, also contributed to helping many others pursue
the
same aims..
Thanks again.
Best wishes to you and all, I trust that the new year brings good luck to
stir on success and rewards.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat - UK
Amsat NA
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:59:24 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy Birthday Earthrise
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <39EA2600-E24F-4E5E-BDCD-2CD1B07180E2@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
It was 40 years ago tonight that we all were glued to our TV sets,
watching the first Earthrise...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7797439.stm
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:01:28 -0400
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ESEO Project latest news!
To: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<49657a760812241601h1386f1c3o4cc77efd4d131647@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Wow, I hadn't realized that the amateur payload includes the
following: "A U/S Transponder ? either FM voice and/or linear/with
DSP; A U/V Transponder ? linear with DSP; A C-Band beacon." It looks
like a full-package HEO is in store for us in 2012.
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Graham Shirville
<g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> For the latest update on the ESEO mission visit the AMSAT-UK website
> http://www.uk.amsat.org/
>
> Season's Greetings and wishing you great success with your satellite
activities in 2009
>
> 73
>
> Graham
> G3VZV
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:03:32 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Earthrise - add
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <850E4C65-2179-4C96-9987-B32D7AB2BE8E@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
That first, incredibly wonderful black-and-white Earthrise photo
almost didn't happen. From NASA transcripts:
075:47:30 Borman (onboard): Oh, my God! Look at that picture over
there! Here's the Earth coming up. Wow, is that pretty!
075:47:37 Anders (onboard): Hey, don't take that, it's not scheduled.
There was limited film available for the Hasselblad ... and what was
in it at that moment was a black-and-white magazine.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:44:45 -0800
From: Bill Greene <bgreene@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy Holidays
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4952D77D.6080406@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I just wanted to take a second to wish my friends all over the world a
very Happy and Safe Holiday Season from my family to their's.
For a New Years resolution you can expect Station VE7WFG to be back on
the satellites.
Kindest Regards, Merry Christmas, and a very Happy New Year.
Bill Greene
VE7WFG Amsat# 29777
DO00jk, Armstrong
British Columbia, Canada
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:01:33 -0000
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ESEO Project latest news!
To: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <B54F2395FEDA4E9EBC39AF5B2C64598E@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
reply-type=original
Hi Bruce,
Sadly the mission was reprofiled from the original GTO concept to LEO some
months back. The final orbit has not yet been confirmed but the satellite is
being designed for a baseline orbital height of between 600-800km sun
synchronous with a 97 degree inclination.
Still worth having tho!
73
Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ESEO Project latest news!
Wow, I hadn't realized that the amateur payload includes the
following: "A U/S Transponder ? either FM voice and/or linear/with
DSP; A U/V Transponder ? linear with DSP; A C-Band beacon." It looks
like a full-package HEO is in store for us in 2012.
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Graham Shirville
<g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> For the latest update on the ESEO mission visit the AMSAT-UK website
> http://www.uk.amsat.org/
>
> Season's Greetings and wishing you great success with your satellite
> activities in 2009
>
> 73
>
> Graham
> G3VZV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:43:31 +0000
From: N3TL@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Log screw-up
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<122520080143.9913.4952E54000029C02000026B922193100029B0A02D2089B9A019C0
4040A0DBFB4ABCCB2@xxx.xxx>
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My apologies to all who use the AO-7 log. You'll see that,according to my last
entry, I worked K1VZI an hour after he worked me. My CW is slow, but it's
really not that slow....
Merry Christmas to all,
Tim - N3TL
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:08:57 -0600
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Earthrise - add
To: <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W630DD857DE2872C9B6AB75D6EA0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
I think that the first black and white photo of Earthrise over the Moon...was
from one of the Lunar Orbiters... I think 5...
Robert
> From: clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:03:32 -0800
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Earthrise - add
>
> That first, incredibly wonderful black-and-white Earthrise photo
> almost didn't happen. From NASA transcripts:
>
> 075:47:30 Borman (onboard): Oh, my God! Look at that picture over
> there! Here's the Earth coming up. Wow, is that pretty!
>
> 075:47:37 Anders (onboard): Hey, don't take that, it's not scheduled.
>
> There was limited film available for the Hasselblad ... and what was
> in it at that moment was a black-and-white magazine.
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
> 909-241-7666
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:17:56 -0500
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] A Quantum Mechanical Analysis of the Santa Claus
problem
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <036mLyHq50720S02.1230189476@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Every year about this time, various analyses go out over the net purporting to
show that Santa Claus cannot possibly exist, because of the extremely high
speeds and accelerations required for him to make his rounds, absence of
chimneys or other means of ingress, etc.
The analysis about the death of Santa Claus, based on classical physics, is
seriously flawed owing to its neglect of quantum phenomena that become
significant in his particular case. An application of Quantum Mechanics to the
Santa Claus problem shows that the situation is not nearly so hopeless as a
classical analysis would have you believe:
Consider the following:
* Santa is never directly observed, but indirect evidence of him abounds.
* If direct observation is attempted (say, by staying up all night with the
lights on), not only is Santa not observed, but the indirect evidence of his
presence does not appear either--only if no attempt is made to observe Santa
do the stockings get filled.
* Evidence of Santa appears in multiple locations simultaneously throughout
the world. (The multiplicity of time zones does not substantially alter this
argument, and will therefore be ignored.)
* Evidence of Santa appears even in rooms that are separated from the rest of
the universe by barriers (small or non-existent chimneys) that Santa cannot
classically pass through.
It is obvious, then, that Santa can best be described by a quantum-mechanical
wavefunction SC, which is nonzero at midnight on Christmas eve throughout the
world. Like other quantum-mechanical wavefunctions, it is not confined to one
spatial location, and can "tunnel" through classical barriers (house walls and
roof), producing a potentially nonzero expectation value in (classically
forbidden) living rooms and apartments. Children expect Santa to arrive;
therefore, in living spaces with the child operator (closely related to the
annihilation operator), the expectation value is small but finite, and a small
but finite fraction of Santa's presents are deposited. However, if an attempt
is made to observe Santa, the observation finds the Santa wavefunction in
either a "not-Santa" (OC|SC> = |SC->) or "Santa" (OC|SC> = |SC+>) eigenstate.
Because of the very small expectation value of the Santa function
(approximately the reciprocal of the number of houses Santa visits, adjusted
by local "naughty" and "nice" operators), the eigenstate is extremely likely
to be "not-Santa" (|SC->)--no presents appear. One cannot really blame these
intrepid experimentalists, however: if one of them did succeed in finding
Santa in the "Santa" (|SC+>) state, he or she would not only have
unprecedented direct evidence of Santa Claus, but would find Santa's entire
load of presents deposited in his or her living room.
(The foregoing analysis attributed to R. Carey Woodward, Jr., Ph.D.)
Another, less mathematical, analysis (gotta love Google) is that:
As it happens, the terminal velocity of a reindeer in dry December air over
the Northern Hemisphere (for example) is known with tremendous precision. The
mass of Santa and his sleigh (since the number of children and their gifts is
also known precisely, ahead of time, and the reindeer must weigh in minutes
before the flight) is also known with tremendous precision. His direction of
flight is, as you say, essentially east to west.
All of that, when taken together, means that the momentum vector of Mr Claus
and his cargo is known with incredible precision. An elementary application
of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle yields the result that Santa's location,
at any given moment on Christmas Eve, is highly imprecise. In other words, he
is "smeared out" over the surface of the earth, analogous to the manner in
which an electron is "smeared out" within a certain distance from the nucleus
in an atom. Thus he can, quite literally, be everywhere at any given moment.
(Author unknown)
Merry Christmas. Get to bed tonight and maybe Santa will bring Amsat a launch
vehicle in 2009.
Dan Schultz N8FGV
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:25:42 -0500
From: Joe Fitzgerald <jfitzgerald@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Earthrise - add
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <495389D6.1000709@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Rocky Jones wrote:
> I think that the first black and white photo of Earthrise over the
Moon...was from one of the Lunar Orbiters... I think 5...
>
>
>
There was a nice story recently about a recent restoration of that photo
...http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-111408a.html
-Joe KM1P
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:54:51 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] A politically correct Christmas greeting
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4FC216837A9A4618A3CB74FDE814B35E@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>From a lawyer:
>From us ("the wishors") to you ("hereinafter called the wishee"):
Please accept without obligation, explicit or implicit, our best wishes for
an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, politically correct, low
stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice
holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious
persuasion or secular practice of your choice, with respect for the
religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice
not to practice religious or secular traditions.
Please also accept, under aforesaid waiver of obligation on your part, our
best wishes for a financially successful, personally fulfilling and
medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of this calendar year of
the Common Era, but with due respect for the calendars of all cultures or
sects, and for the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious
faith, choice of computer platform or dietary preference of the wishee.
By accepting this greeting you acknowledge that:
This greeting is subject to further clarification or withdrawal at the
wishor's discretion.
This greeting is freely transferable provided that no alteration shall be
made to the original greeting and that the proprietary rights of the wishor
are acknowledged.
This greeting implies no warranty on the part of the wishors to fulfill
these wishes, nor any ability of the wishors to do so, merely a beneficent
hope on the part of the wishors that they in fact occur.
This greeting may not be enforceable in certain jurisdictions and/or the
restrictions herein may not be binding upon certain wishees in certain
jurisdictions and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wishors.
This greeting is warranted to perform as reasonably may be expected within
the usual application of good tidings, for a period of one year or until the
issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first.
The wishor warrants this greeting only for the limited replacement of this
wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wishor.
Any references in this greeting to "the Lord", "Father Christmas", "Our
Savior", or any other festive figures, whether actual or fictitious, dead or
alive, shall not imply any endorsement by or from them in respect of this
greeting, and all proprietary rights in any referenced third party names and
images are hereby acknowledged.
Sincerely,
Dewey, Cheetham, and Howe
Attorneys at Law
====================================================
And a sincere, unreserved Christmas greeting from WA4SCA!
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:15:06 -0500
From: Peter <roi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 Telemetry
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <001d01c966a3$c10989e0$6901a8c0@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all,
I will be using a PK-96 to decode AO-51 TLM using TLM echo, what terminal
program are you using and what are the TNC commands that you use, thank you.
73,
Pete, WB2OQQ
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