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Today's Topics:
1. Re: HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
attract more interest and revenue] (Jerry Buxton)
2. Re: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more interest and
revenue (Jerry Buxton)
3. Re: Best APRS software for Windows (and Pi and Android)?
(Fred Hillhouse)
4. ANS-212 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - CAS-7B
Designated BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102) (Paul Stoetzer)
5. CAS-7B BO-102 over SA (Pedro Converso)
6. BO-102/CAS-7B Short life (Pedro Converso)
7. ARISS News Release (ANR) No. 19-12 (n4csitwo@?????????.????
8. ARISS News Release (ANR) No. 19-13 (n4csitwo@?????????.????
9. Re: Transponders For Rent??? (Ev Tupis)
10. Re: HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to
attract more interest and revenue] (Ev Tupis)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:11:06 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX
(HEO) to attract more interest and revenue]
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On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
goals?
Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
debris regulations.? GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go because the
enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.? We can't
license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years and a
HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is likely to
last "too long" by itself.? There are options available for deorbit BUT
the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by the
FCC.? In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
keeping within the current expectations of 3U.? A change in size (6U)
might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either, right
now.? We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
possibilities.? If something is available whether drag or propulsion,
then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a launch to
a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.? If we had a million bucks
and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
million budget then we would be pursuing that.
Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a lot of
say in specific orbit parameters.
One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.?
The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance is
on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into not
having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
along.? And then again, there's likely cost there too...? We have some
options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just won't
be happening today.?
Other possibilities?? As far as I know we are pursuing the current
options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
aren't other possibilities.? If you have any, keep in mind that building
a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
gaining any approval.? And 90% probability that whatever will get you
back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.?
We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with going
lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it is
new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as well as
the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years of
launches.? We are not magically known just because we launched some
pretty cool satellites in the past.? Hopefully we will be known by more
through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book" production
and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and others
who we look to for these launch opportunities.
Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
barrier...
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:37:32 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA solution: DX (HEO) to attract more
interest and revenue
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On 7/30/2019 11:34, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> This resonates with me, as I see a general decline in the ability of
> newly minted engineers coming out of our "higher education"
> institutions. Too many distractions have made the average youngster
> impatient, sloppy, and poorly focused.
I'm not commenting either way on this observation, but it did make me
think of another consideration in the return to HEO or for that matter,
non-LEO and anything with a hefty price tag.? There has been a fair
amount of outcry over not so much the failure of AO-95's receive
capability and yes we are still working on possibilities to help
determine what went wrong or perhaps, get it working (I'm an optimist)
but take that to the level of a $1M or more project and the scrutiny
probably becomes pretty hard to bear, as you can imagine.?
Given the money to do a HEO it is also necessary to exercise the caution
and care to make sure you succeed, lest a mistake cripple the satellite
and run off half the membership kind of like AO-40's unfortunate tale,
not to mention running off investors.? That takes a bunch of time and
dedicated volunteers who have the expertise and stick around long enough
to make it work and pass along the knowledge.? To my knowledge, all of
the prior HEO took a lot of time, money, and effort.? I would be happy
to be involved with such a well subsidized effort but I honestly don't
see it happening quickly in terms of member-years, although 5 or
possibly more years in the "construction" business is nothing and no
matter how many years, is always amazingly short.
Just sayin', return to HEO is as much my desire as anyone else and I
still have my AO-10/13/40 antennas so I have every incentive to
succeed!? (That's partially a joke, son.)
It just may not be fast, it has to be careful, and it sure has to be a
mission set in solid requirements from the get-go and free of politics
or personal desires to change the course once the requirements are
written and design begins.? And with volunteers, that's not always as
easy as you might think, especially because they come and go.?
Volunteers are in my experience, less inclined to stay around the longer
times needed for things like this, at least 'these days'.? Look at how
many worked long and hard at AMSAT's prior HEO and projects.? And these
satellite things, they will frustrate and contradict you every step of
the way.? It's almost like they resist being easy, perfect.? They are
the embodiment of Capt. Edward A. Murphy's law.? Ya gotta love it!
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 21:57:13 -0400
From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@???????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best APRS software for Windows (and Pi and
Android)?
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By the way, if you send a message from any client (YAAC, APRSIS32 or a D72
radio) to ISS with anything for text, you will receive the next pass
predictions.
Fred N7FMH
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From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Greg D via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 1:51 AM
To: Ken M
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best APRS software for Windows (and Pi and Android)?
Hi Ken,
APRS client for windows is easily APRSIS32 by Lynn KJ4ERJ
(http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/ ) Very much current and actively
maintained. It also includes satellite pass predictions via APRS
(keeping this satellite-relevant).
APRS client for Raspberry Pi: My preference here is YAAC by Andrew
KA2DDO (https://www.ka2ddo.org/ka2ddo/YAAC.html). If you don't need a
user interface (i.e. just for beacons, digipeating, and iGating),
Direwolf is a very good choice all by itself. I run them together, with
Direwolf just handling the KISS TNC functions, and YAAC doing the
Graphical interface.
Android: APRSdroid gets my vote, though there are others.
Greg KO6TH
Ken M via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm seeking suggestions for good APRS client software packages for
> Windows? There are a number of ancient packages out there but it would
> be nice to find one that's thoroughly modern and still being maintained.
>
> I'm also looking for an APRS client for the Raspberry Pi and maybe
> Android down the road.
>
> What's your favourite?
>
> Thanks & 73, Ken VA7KBM
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 22:10:30 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, ans@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-212 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin -
CAS-7B Designated BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102)
Message-ID:
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN
ANS-212
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.
The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.
You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service
Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans
In this edition:
* CAS-7B Designated BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102)
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-212.01
ANS-212 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 212.01
From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE July 31, 2019
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-212.01
CAS-7B Designated BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102)
On July 25, 2019, the CAS-7B (BP-1B) microsatellite was launched on a
Hyperbola-1 launch vehicle from the Jiuquan Space Center, China.
CAS-7B (BP-1B) was developed by the Chinese Amateur Satellite Group
(CAMSAT), and in cooperation with the Beijing Institute of Technology
(BIT). CAMSAT completed the project planning, design, build, and
testing, and manages the on-orbit operation of the satellite. BIT
provided the satellite environmental testing, launch support, and
financial support. Many students from BIT were involved with the
project, learning about satellite technology and amateur radio. The
satellite carries a CW telemetry beacon and FM repeater that has been
active since launch.
At the request of CAMSAT and the BIT team, AMSAT hereby designates
CAS-7B (BP-1B) as BIT Progress-OSCAR 102 (BO-102). We congratulate the
owners and operators of BO-102, thank them for their contribution to
the amateur satellite community, and wish them continued success on
this and future projects.
73,
Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
AMSAT VP Operations / OSCAR Number Administrator
[ANS thanks AMSAT VP Operations / OSCAR Number Administrator Drew
Glasbrenner, KO4MA, for the above information.]
In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.
73 and Remember to help Keep Amateur Radio in Space,
This week's ANS Contributing Editor,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
n8hm at amsat dot org
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 00:09:17 -0300
From: Pedro Converso <pconver@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B BO-102 over SA
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High activity on FM repeater on BO-102 sat, at 03:00z, orbit 91.
Many contacts, using 10w and 5 elem yagis, strong CW TLM.
Congrats on new designation and for this useful sat
73, lu7abf, Pedro
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 00:47:53 -0300
From: Pedro Converso <pconver@?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] BO-102/CAS-7B Short life
Message-ID:
<CANTZqK=bwUuQjGQPXrTxhjGg7Ya+fcQ0EKbrXJX0i3O=mvuzmw@????.?????.???>
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If trying QSO via BO-102, better hurry up, forecast shows reentry on August-9.
196 19043A 44443 19211.720223 19221.562494 (2019 August 9)
Reentry Calc with program at http://amsat.org.ar/satevo.zip
BO-102 is 2019-043A. Latest Keps at http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt
Will be interesting to watch when and where is reentry thru latest receptions.
Passes, frecs and height at http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=cas7b
73, lu7abf, Pedro
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:18:31 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release (ANR) No. 19-12
Message-ID: <8ECDC9DDE36B4D178290165C97898EBF@???>
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ARISS News Release
No. 19-12
Dave Jordan, AA4KN
ARISS PR
aa4kn@?????.???
July 30, 2019
SSTV Event planned for Early August
ARISS plans to celebrate the life and accomplishments of astronaut,
scientist and ham radio pioneer Owen Garriott with a commemorative SSTV
event featuring images from Garriott's work with ham radio during his
missions in space. This event is currently scheduled to begin on August 1 at
09:40 UTC and ends at 18:15 UTC on August 4. Please make note that the
content of these upcoming SSTV transmissions may change. An update is
expected after Friday, July 26 as to what the image content will be for the
August 1-4 dates. If this change takes place, the Owen Garriott image
transmissions will be postponed until another event can be scheduled toward
the end of August.
Transmissions will be sent at 145.800 MHz FM in the SSTV mode PD-120. Once
received, images can be posted and viewed by the public at
http://www.spaceflightsoftware.com/ARISS_SSTV/index.php and you can receive
a special SSTV ARISS Award for posting your image. See
https://ariss.pzk.org.pl/sstv/ for details. Also for simplicity, we have
added a new information tab for SSTV events, under the General Contacts
pulldown menu at www.ariss.org . The latest updates can also be found at the
ARISS Facebook site Amateur Radio On The International Space Station (ARISS)
and on Twitter @ ARISS_status.
About ARISS:
Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.
Media Contact:
Dave Jordan, AA4KN
ARISS PR
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:20:33 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release (ANR) No. 19-13
Message-ID: <90DC392C7D6846099E687ED6C4CBA705@???>
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ARISS News Release
No. 19-13
Dave Jordan, AA4KN
ARISS PR
aa4kn@?????.???
July 31, 2019
ARISS Next Generation Radio System Completes Critical Flight
Certification Tests
The Interoperable Radio System (IORS), ARISS' next generation radio system
successfully completed a battery of stressful tests required as part of the
final certification of the hardware for launch to and operation on the
International Space Station.
During the week of July 8, the IORS, consisting of the JVC Kenwood D-710GA
Radio and the AMSAT developed Multi-Voltage Power Supply, successfully
completed a series of Electro-magnetic Interference (EMI)/Electro-Magnetic
Compatibility (EMC) tests to ensure that the ARISS hardware will not
interfere with the ISS systems or other payloads. Testing continued into the
following week, where the IORS successfully passed power quality and
acoustics testing. These tests verified that the ARISS IORS will not
introduce harmful signals back into the ISS power system and is quiet enough
to meet ISS acoustic requirements. ARISS Hardware Team members Lou McFadin,
W5DID and Kerry Banke, N6IZW were at the NASA Johnson Space Center
supporting this two week battery of tests in concert with the NASA test and
certification team.
Kerry Banke states, "Since the IORS is being qualified to operate on 120VDC,
28VDC and Russian 28VDC as well as transmitting on VHF or UHF, a lot of test
combinations were required to cover all cases. Each input voltage type was
also tested at low, medium and high line voltage. Moreover, additional
permutations were required to test the IORS under no load, medium load and
full load at each voltage level. So it should not be surprising why the
tests took two weeks to complete."
Successful completion of these tests represents a key milestone in preparing
the IORS for launch. ARISS can now begin final assembly of the flight safety
certification in preparation for launch. ARISS is working towards launch
ready status by the end of the year.
About ARISS:
Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.
Media Contact:
Dave Jordan, AA4KN
ARISS PR
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 10:51:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Transponders For Rent???
Message-ID: <2040269993.129241.1564570297258@????.?????.???>
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This is interesting for sure, Michelle.
Traditionally, amateur satellites (and symbiants) have been self-contained
RX and TX systems.
Conjecture follows...If DVB-S2 could be negotiated to provide the downlink,
the missing component is an uplink within the amateur bands (just restating
you).
That means (if it can be negotiated), our work is cut in half because we are
reduced to providing the uplink (RX) side and a pathway to the DVB-S2
downlink.? Of course, this is an oversimplification because we would also
need all of the things that make a symbiant palatable to the host system.
Interesting thought experiment, though.
Ev
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 4:26:39 PM EDT, Michelle Thompson via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Since the potential rentable birds generally all use DVB-S2 as a downlink,
then the work Phase 4 Ground is doing to bring that entire standard to open
source amateur radio use would seem to be quite relevant.
Different question is how to handle amateur uplinks, but there are some
internet backhaul options there that would work very well as an
intermediate step.
Great question and discussion.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 13:04 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Yes, I would rent in a minute. This would be my solution for working the
> sats. in the Wisconsin Winter!
> Brad Smith KC9UQR
> <So, like "FM Tower for Rent", signs as seen all over the U.S., could we
> soon see "GEO TV Satellite transponder for rent" as well ?Maybe this could
> be an answer to a ham GEO transponder ?>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 11:09:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HEO/Elliptical [was: AMSAT-NA solution: DX
(HEO) to attract more interest and revenue]
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Somewhere in AMSAT there is someone who has "Project Managed" long enough
(or has access to process-flow diagrams) and can publish a generic work
breakdown of both the steps and resources needed to put a highly elliptical
(presumably less expensive) or Geostationary (presumably more expensive)
bird into orbit and manage it.
If that person (or people) could publish that along with a "checkmark" next
to the items that are "already in place", "in active progress", and "needs
sponsor/enthusiast" then we are more likely to fill-in the gaps.
Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game (a.k.a. "Bacon's Law")??
Let's play it out here!
Ev, W2EV
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:15:19 PM EDT, Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
On 7/28/2019 18:46, Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> What are the top barriers to revisiting highly elliptical and AO-40 type
goals?
Actually, from my perspective right now the top barrier is orbital
debris regulations.? GOLF-1 isn't going where I wanted to go because the
enforcement has become stringent and a hot topic worldwide.? We can't
license or launch anything that doesn't de-orbit within 25 years and a
HEO orbit (GTO actually, keeping it simple for this point) is likely to
last "too long" by itself.? There are options available for deorbit BUT
the kicker right now is that they have to be proven and approved by the
FCC.? In that we know of no such device(s) available at this time,
keeping within the current expectations of 3U.? A change in size (6U)
might yield some possibilities but I know of none there either, right
now.? We have been discussing and working with both NASA and FCC for
possibilities.? If something is available whether drag or propulsion,
then we get into the cost issue not to mention the price of a launch to
a GTO which is currently around $900k MSRP.? If we had a million bucks
and approved device(s) were available right now that fit within a $1
million budget then we would be pursuing that.
Another option is to find a launch with a low enough perigee to
naturally decay in 25 years, but whether earning an ELaNa launch or
buying one, we will always be secondary payload and don't have a lot of
say in specific orbit parameters.
One more option is rideshare, and that is also in active discussion.?
The point there would be that the onus of orbital debris compliance is
on the satellite we hitch a ride with, although that also goes into not
having a lot of say on the final orbit not to mention satisfying a
primary payload that everything will be just fine if they take us
along.? And then again, there's likely cost there too...? We have some
options that wouldn't necessarily require lots of money, they just won't
be happening today.?
Other possibilities?? As far as I know we are pursuing the current
options available per NASA and FCC, but that doesn't mean that there
aren't other possibilities.? If you have any, keep in mind that building
a good case for use of whatever the possibility might be is key to
gaining any approval.? And 90% probability that whatever will get you
back in less than 25 years is a tough challenge.?
We are bucking a trend, general CubeSat missions are happy with going
lower or from ISS, and bucking the trend not new with AMSAT but it is
new in this world today because of the regulation and stakes as well as
the fact that most everyone we deal with has no knowledge of AMSAT
beyond the record the we have created and grown in the last 4 years of
launches.? We are not magically known just because we launched some
pretty cool satellites in the past.? Hopefully we will be known by more
through our continued contact, cooperation, and "by the book" production
and delivery of CubeSats with NASA, FCC, launch integrators, and others
who we look to for these launch opportunities.
Or get a bunch of money because that probably is the second biggest
barrier...
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
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