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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Tripod mount for Arrow. (Robert MacHale)
2. Re: AO-92 camera mode (Hans BX2ABT)
3. Re: Tripod Mount for Arrow (Clint Bradford)
4. Re: AO-92 camera mode (Jerry Buxton)
5. Re: Technical Handbook for Satellite Monitoring - available
for cost of shipping! (Michelle Thompson)
6. CAS-7B (BP-1B) TLE (Alan Kung)
7. EN75/76/85/86 corner from earlier today (aa8ch)
8. object # for psat2 (Nick Pugh)
9. Radio Carrying Case (Kees van Oosbree)
10. RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3 (Zach Metzinger)
11. PSAT2 TLE object number (Robert Bruninga)
12. Re: RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3 (Michelle Thompson)
13. Re: RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3 (Alex Free - N7AGF)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 03:12:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
To: Brad Smith <corlissbs@???.???>, Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod mount for Arrow.
Message-ID: <366944241.4109120.1562555539283@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I use the Arrow antenna with this pistol grip tripod:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-70-Inch-Pistol-Grip-Tripod/dp/B01LQX0P8Q/r
ef=sr_1_1_sspa?
73
Robert MacHale
. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration
On Sunday, July 7, 2019, 03:38:09 PM PDT, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
I do not use a tripod, I hold the Arrow in my hand.
I have the IC-7100 head unit connected to a metal T, available at probably
every hardware store in the US, via the tripod mount on it.
I added a few more pictures to the album,
https://photos.app.goo.gl/q6IMFF4PjYb1c5HO2, one shows the under side of
the control head.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 18:01 Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Don: What kind of mount do you have to hold your Arrow on the tripod?
>
> I rove and the Arrow sits on a tripod while I sit on my butt.
>? ? On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 11:13:50 AM EDT, Don KB2YSI via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Sent from Brad's iPod
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 11:43:21 +0800
From: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@??????????.???>, "'Mark L.
Hammond'" <marklhammond@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
Message-ID: <26ad3c9c-633b-310b-9295-2c108706145a@???.?????.???>
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These are my N/S over the north pole passes for July 10/11 UTC
10-Jul 01:40??? E 96???? 27?
10-Jul 03:14??? WNW 289??? 11?
11-Jul 01:15??? E 97???? 13?
11-Jul 02:48??? W 285???? 21?
Elevations are not very high, so it might work with my fixed elevation
setup. If you could, then yes, please. I know for sure the guys in Japan
would love to track this.
73 de Hans
BX2ABT
On 07/08/2019 11:08 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> It was necessary as a consequence of our original imaging license from
NOAA. We could not image anything other than the surface of the earth, and
since the satellite is stabilized with a bar magnet, the camera points up in
the southern hemisphere. 45 minutes on an ascending pass means the camera is
off by the time it is pointed the wrong way. That's the reason as far as I
remember it. Jerry or Burns might be along to correct me if my memory is
faulty.
>
> You may have some shot at receiving the signal as the ascending passes
over the US go over the pole and down over China and western Japan. I can
add some of those passes if you will be ready to copy.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Hans BX2ABT via
AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 10:01 PM
> To: Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond@?????.???>
> Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
>
> Any reason for this limited setup? Would love to get some 9k6 frames.
>
> Hans
>
> BX2ABT
>
>
> On 07/08/2019 09:57 AM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
>> It?s on a timer, that cannot be changed.
>> Mark N8MH
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:04 PM Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB
>> <amsat-bb@?????.??? <mailto:amsat-bb@?????.???>> wrote:
>>
>> Why not leave the camera on for an entire day or two so people around
>> the world can enjoy AO-92 in another way?
>>
>> 73 de Hans
>>
>> BX2ABT
>>
>>
>> On 07/08/2019 12:46 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > July 10 and 11 we'll be running the camera on AO-92 in support
>> of the ARRL
>> > Teachers Institute. Exact pass times TBD, but expect anything
>> that passes
>> > over Florida in the morning to be possible. More to follow.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 73, Drew KO4MA
>> >
>> > AMSAT VP Operations
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 20:17:01 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@?????????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod Mount for Arrow
Message-ID: <EB83C0DC-6A4F-4C5F-9CB6-6A0CCE3DB14B@?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
To relieve stress to your wrist, elbow, and shoulder, you could mount a
?handle? on the end of the Arrow?s boom.
Photos if this ergonomic enhancement here:
http://www.k6lcs.com/Photos/Pages/Arrow_Mod.html
Clint Bradford K6LCS
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 00:38:32 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera mode
Message-ID: <2f691417-abec-44b6-442f-383d42418f8a@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Drew's response is correct.? In addition the camera software ignores
images that do not appear to be of Earth and during eclipse so if left
on for a longer period, it would essentially waste repeater
opportunities by running high speed data that only contains the small
satellite/experiment telemetry.? It should keep repeating the last good
image until it changes modes or again sees Earth and captures a new
image but we considered that to be of lesser value vs. the power
required to maintain 100% duty cycle especially in eclipse, and the loss
of the use of the repeater in the southern hemisphere while in camera mode.
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
On 7/7/2019 22:08, Andrew Glasbrenner via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> It was necessary as a consequence of our original imaging license from
NOAA. We could not image anything other than the surface of the earth, and
since the satellite is stabilized with a bar magnet, the camera points up in
the southern hemisphere. 45 minutes on an ascending pass means the camera is
off by the time it is pointed the wrong way. That's the reason as far as I
remember it. Jerry or Burns might be along to correct me if my memory is
faulty.
>
> You may have some shot at receiving the signal as the ascending passes
over the US go over the pole and down over China and western Japan. I can
add some of those passes if you will be ready to copy.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 09:42:15 -0700
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Technical Handbook for Satellite Monitoring -
available for cost of shipping!
Message-ID:
<CACvjz2VSPEFsZdPBG_6mE-RanK=nn16nGVjBF30JFTMGPiqKuw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
21 responses with 3 of those clubs or school groups! I wish I had 21 to
give away.
I have asked ARRL if there is any scholarship or materials funds available
to buy some for clubs. I will see what I can do about getting some copies
for your members or students!
Today I made a list, gave it to a trustworthy person, told them to
randomize it, and then used an online customized dice generator (all those
years of playing D&D online pay off) to give a random number. The list
holder counted down from the top and the winner is:
Corey Shields
If anyone wants to buy or wish list the current version of this book then
it can be found here:
Directly from the author at
https://frequencymanager.de/produkt/technical-handbook-for-satellite-monitorin
g/
On Amazon at:
https://www.amazon.com/Technical-Handbook-Satellite-Monitoring-Proesch/dp/3744
836827/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=satellite+handbook+for+monitoring&qid=1562356591&s=
gateway&sr=8-6
-Michelle W5NYV
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:52 AM Michelle Thompson <
mountain.michelle@?????.???> wrote:
> I have an extra copy of the 2017 edition of Roland Proesch's Technical
> Handbook for Satellite Monitoring and I would like to give it away! Just
> setting shipping and it can be yours.
>
> Here's a link to the 2017 version's table of contents:
>
>
http://frequencymanager.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Technical-Handbook-for-S
atellite-Monitoring-2017.pdf
>
> Available from now through Monday.
> If multiple people interested, will pick someone at random!
>
> I enjoy and use this book and want to find it a new home.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 02:05:00 +0800 (CST)
From: "Alan Kung" <camsat@???.???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B) TLE
Message-ID: <590bc94b.8f0bb.16bd2c2a7a7.Coremail.camsat@???.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK
Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 22, 2019, the launch vehicle
Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B satellite will be
deployed at 05:14:22.0206UTC.
CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U 19203.21831019 -.00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 00008
2 99999 042.7339 005.2478 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575752000011
73
Alan, BA1DU
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 19:24:40 +0000 (UTC)
From: aa8ch <aa8ch@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN75/76/85/86 corner from earlier today
Message-ID: <355964717.2911735.1562613880391@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hey, if you worked me on AO92 at 1625UTC or AO91 at 1655UTC today,?
please log as AA8CH/MM to get a match in LOTW.? Thanks for the QSOs!
Pictures /further details @?????????????? twitter.
73
Chris AA8CH
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 16:24:38 -0500
From: "Nick Pugh" <quadpugh@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] object # for psat2
Message-ID: <1d8b01d535d3$8d239a70$a76acf50$@?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
What is the object # for psat2
nick
Cell 337 258 2527
Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School
Disagree I Learn
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 16:19:35 -0500
From: Kees van Oosbree <arrl.kvan@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Carrying Case
Message-ID:
<CA+-4feNpAkD6Qi0-Y_K9T_BRF9XOqNx5NcUU1w_5ynpPGzH1=g@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hello,
I've been looking for a new radio carrying case for my handheld radios.
Right now I use an old camera bag to hold the radios, so then I can hold
the antenna in one hand, and the speaker mic in the other hand. This has
gotton complicated, however, because to adjust for doppler shift on my
radios, I have to rummage around in my bag to to find the radios and have
to push the buttons to change the frequency, which takes too much time.
Does anybody have any ideas for a cheap way to hold the radios so they are
easy to locate and don't take so much time to change the frequencies?
73 de KE0STO
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 17:16:17 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
Message-ID: <076c3b67-768f-dff0-8267-238bc07796f4@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware
of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m
during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor
increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation
had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and
leave the lot.
The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the
racket extended.
I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-r
adio--but-why
So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
time? :-)
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 18:20:23 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT2 TLE object number
Message-ID: <060511ddcbfb04f19966d9bf591b20cc@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> What is the object # for psat2
Its either 44354, 355 or 375. Those will certainly get you very close.
But they are too close for use to claim one.
BOb
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 15:21:17 -0700
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
Message-ID:
<CACvjz2U=-p-hma3mEw3BJOJ2TeW_JfV+Qff=zjZyt22Wfg8aEA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
We have a Nissan Leaf. Now that you describe this, I think I've seen the
same at home!
I have several friends with Teslas, and can get an i3 to characterize. If
you're interested write me off list and we can get some data, if you like.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:17 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware
> of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
>
> I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m
> during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor
> increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation
> had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and
> leave the lot.
>
> The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
>
> I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the
> racket extended.
>
> I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
>
>
>
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-r
adio--but-why
>
> So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
> time? :-)
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 15:39:51 -0700
From: Alex Free - N7AGF <alex@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RF noise from a passing-by BMW i3
Message-ID:
<CAG8VDhqgVX9RAYj6WWAXMfDynAOoxmxF4LZByXzN8XB2obcdFg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Can confirm. While roving, many FO-29 attempts have been partially wiped
out by me opening a door otherwise activating the MCU of my X.
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:27 PM Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> We have a Nissan Leaf. Now that you describe this, I think I've seen the
> same at home!
>
> I have several friends with Teslas, and can get an i3 to characterize. If
> you're interested write me off list and we can get some data, if you like.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:17 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> >
> > For those of you considering operating around electric vehicles, beware
> > of the copious noise emitted by the BMW i3.
> >
> > I was sitting in a parking lot, engine off, operating mobile on 10m
> > during the recent band openings. Rather abruptly, the band's noise floor
> > increased to mid-scale on the S-meter. I briefly wondered if propagation
> > had suddenly changed, and then I noticed a BMW i3 pass behind me and
> > leave the lot.
> >
> > The noise left as well... I was back to a nice quiet band floor.
> >
> > I didn't have time to switch over to 2m/70cm SSB and see how far up the
> > racket extended.
> >
> > I stumbled across an article relating much of the same, today.
> >
> >
> >
>
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098893_bmw-i3-electric-car-quirk-no-am-r
adio--but-why
> >
> > So, save the planet or save the spectrum. Perhaps not both at the same
> > time? :-)
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> > _______________________________________________
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