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Today's Topics:

1.  comprar antena arrow para satellites 144-432
(ea4fg fermin ciudad real im88ax)
2.  Replacement switch part for Yaesu G-5500 (Eduardo Jacob)
3.  Help with AO-16 and "reverse tracking" (Rick Mann)
4.  Help with rotor control and GS-232B (Scott Gillis)
5. Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux (w8iss(AT)wideopenwest.com)
6. Re: Help with AO-16 and "reverse tracking" (Auke de Jong)
7. Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux (Bruce Robertson)
8.  HP test gear... for free (Tyler Harpster)
9.  Fw:  Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux (Snyderb)
10. Re: Help with rotor control and GS-232B (K7WIN - Jeff)
11.  HQ8R (Alvaro de Leon Romo)
12. Re: Swan Island DXpedition update (Bill Dzurilla)
13.  Coax run on the Beams (Prathap Kumar)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:54:00 +0100
From: "ea4fg fermin ciudad real im88ax" <ea4fg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  comprar antena arrow para satellites 144-432
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BAY126-DS3AA5F8D728EBAACDE84BCFE050(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Gentlemen am EA4FG Ciudad Real in IM88AX SPAIN want any radioamateur I can do
or sell
ARROW antenna hope hearing 73's

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:08:08 +0100
From: "Eduardo Jacob" <ej.jacob(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Replacement switch part for Yaesu G-5500
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<9172b8c70803171308l7b7a8210m894c12e5b1e271bf(AT)mail.gmail.com>
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Hi

A switch of our faculty's club Yaesu G-5500 Controller is broken. We have
put another one but I would like to know of it's possible to get a
replacement for aesthetic view. Sent a message to Yaesu with no answer.

Any ideas?

Best regards and thank you


Eduardo/EA2BAJ

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:13:30 -0700
From: Rick Mann <rmann(AT)latencyzero.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Help with AO-16 and "reverse tracking"
To: AMSAT-BB Org <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <4ECF8CE5-0AF0-4537-AA0F-9FF2F79A1D49(AT)latencyzero.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Hi. I'm pretty new to all this. I've had one successful contact in my
life (with ISS, no less!), but I decided last night to try AO-16. I
have an ICOM IC-910H. I put it into satellite mode, and set it up to
receive LSB/USB on 437.0260 MHz, and transmit FM on 145.9200 MHz.

One thing the IC-910H instructions said to do is transmit a tone (like
a whistle) and be sure one can receive that. After listening for some
time (to a nearly overhead pass), at 5am, I tried doing that. Now, I
*think* I heard myself, but a weird thing was if my whistle tone got
lower in pitch it sounded higher. Not sure if that was just my
imagination.

In any case, MacDoppler seemed to be changing frequencies differently
for transmit vs. receive. The 910H's manual talks about reverse
tracking, where doppler on receive goes up while it goes down on
transmit.

Could someone clarify these things for me? Why would they be different?

Thanks!

--
Rick

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:14:16 -0400
From: "Scott Gillis" <sgillis(AT)toyotaofwaldorf.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Help with rotor control and GS-232B
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <3E0B52C80247EF449760176B69B5A0859FC95E(AT)echo.tow.local>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hope I can get some good feedback on this issue.

I bought a GS-232B and "assumed" (sigh) that it would be backwards
compatible (meaning anything written for any GS-232 would work)

I don't seem so lucky (or at least it seams that way with NOVA for
Windows).

I'm looking for suggestions on what software package (or combination) I
need to control my ICOM 910H and my GS-232B.

Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated

73
Scott Gillis N3UJJ
My Current Location <http://location.n3ujj.com/>
My Amateur Weather Station <http://weather.n3ujj.com/>

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:44:23 -0500
From: w8iss(AT)wideopenwest.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
To: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>, "John Heaton"
	<john(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <20080318004308.M9694(AT)wideopenwest.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=iso-8859-1

Bruce,

Do you have Gnome Predict installed also? I have found the same problem after
installing Gpredict, but it will do it still even after uninstalling gpredict.

James W8ISS


---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
To: "John Heaton" <john(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:23:58 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux

> On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 7:37 AM, John Heaton <john(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >  Hash: SHA1
> >
> >
> >  On 16 Mar 2008, at 05:50, Bruce Robertson wrote:
> >  > Your Predict is possibly dying for a lack of a TLE file. Point to one
> >  > with the -t command-line parameter. Ensure also that a qth file is
> >  > being created in ~/.predict and that you as user can read it with,
> >  > e.g. 'cat'. I believe predict is supposed to find a tle file in that
> >  > same directory, but I think I've had troubles with that option.
> >
> >  Predict will run without a TLE file - you won't see any predictions
>
> I just double-checked this, and I still find that if there is no tle
> file and none pointed to with a -t switch, it will die as Kent
> described below. Namely, it will send you to the new user screen and
> then exit when the info is entered. (Unfortunately, it exits with the
> terminal in a funny state.) In my experience, it does this on a fresh
> install with apt-get on Ubuntu, or with a build install (using root).
> This is a frustrating loop for the user, since he or she can
> reasonably expect that the data is entered after the first attempt,
> and furthermore the qth file can be found in the ~/.predict
>
> I've taken a screenshot and posted it at
> http://heml.mta.ca/Amsat/predict-fail.png
>
> If, however, you use -t to point it to a tle file it can't parse, it
> will do as you, John, describe above. More specifically, you can
> select the [P] option from the main menu, but this results in a blank
> list of satellites from which to choose.
>
> For instance, the following command will produce this effect:
> brucerob(AT)heml:~$ touch foo
> brucerob(AT)heml:~$ predict -t foo
>
> I get the exact same effect if I use the documented nasa tle files.
> For example:
>
> brucerob(AT)heml:~$ wget
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
> brucerob(AT)heml:~$ predict -t nasa.all
>
> Fails the same as my 'foo' file above. However if I edit out the
> comments in the file describing the file format so that the first
> line begins with 'AO-07', predict operates normally.
>
> >  > Finally, make sure that your tle file does not have any comments at
> >  > its top before the actual elements. For instance, the commonly used
> >  > nasa.tle files have a set of comments describing the tle format.
> >  > Predict dies on these.
> >
> >  Predict ignores data in the TLE file before the TLE data, so if you
> >  get your TLE as a meil message you don't need to remove the headers
>
> Perhaps predict is written to ignore the headers of a mail message,
> but not the comments that appear in the nasa file?
>
> I hope it is understood that I'm documenting this because I like
> predict and consider it a wonderful arrow in AMSAT's quiver. Indeed,
> since it might be a potential AMSAT'er's first encounter with pass
> prediction -- given that it is part of the debian world -- I think we
> should ensure that it is very easy to use. Furthermore it
> cross-compiles like a dream: as I've said elsewhere it works
> identically on a Nokia N800; and another member of this list got it
> to run on the gumstix platform.
>
> 73, Bruce
> VE9QRP
>
> >
> >  >
> >  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Kent R. Frazier <k5knt(AT)amsat.org>
> >  > wrote:
> >  >> I just installed Ubuntu Linux 7.10 and Predict 2.2.3 on my
> >  >> notebook. When I
> >  >>  start Predict I get the "new user" screen where I enter the required
> >  >>  information. After pressing the "enter" key on the last entry I
> >  >> get a
> >  >>  command prompt. I can not seem to get to the main menu.
> >  >>
> >  >>  Is anyone using this software that could offer some suggestions?
> >  >> Or maybe
> >  >>  another alternative to run under Linux?
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------- End of Original Message -------

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:25:55 -0600
From: Auke de Jong <sparkycivic(AT)shaw.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Help with AO-16 and "reverse tracking"
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001201c88897$039cb520$6400a8c0(AT)sparkys>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
	reply-type=original

By the sounds of it, you'll just need to get some practice tuning for
doppler on the AO-16 downlink.  For this sat, it is not even necessary to
use doppler correction for your transmitter, but the FM might sound a little
clearer, if you do.  No need to make things harder than they need to when
yo're just getting started!

You can use either LSB or USB for listening to AO-16, but they will sound
very different.  listening to LSB with no doppler-correction causes tones to
go UP  in frequency as the sat passes, where they go DOWN when using USB.
Either way, your receiver should be tuning downward all throughout the pass.

You will have to manually center your receiver before applying
doppler-correction as you will need to be within 100Hz of the actual signal
to hear the audio correctly.  The computer can't get it fine enough on it's
own.  Also, of note, the speed of the doppler-shift is orders-of-magnitude
faster while the satellite is directly overhead, compared to when it is
aproaching or receding.  This is less-pronounced when the satellite pass is
not directly overhead, but accross your horizon, and is much easier to track
on these lower passes.

I have no automated doppler-correction, so I can only suggest what works for
me... AO-16, when not in use, sends a constant tone.  You can use this tone
to center your receiver at first, or if you get lost during the pass.  Just
set your receiver to USB, and then look for the tone.  The tone should be
around 30-60 Hz in order for the audio to be heard.  I think you will find
that you can hear yourself talking when this tone is anywhere below 60Hz.
You can test your computer's doppler-correction too, by seeing how well it
follows this tone during a quiet pass. If you have only basic antennas, you
won't need to send any more than 20 watts to hear yourself, unless, maybe if
it's almost directly overhead and you're using vertical-omni's.  With better
antennas, you might as well just crank your power all the way down, this is
a VERY sensitive satellite!  One last thing: the tone will shift, or
disappear completely when you key your transmitter -it's a nice clue that
the sat is hearing you, when this happens on-cue.

Enjoy!

73's
Auke
VE6PWN
DO33go


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Mann" <rmann(AT)latencyzero.com>
To: "AMSAT-BB Org" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with AO-16 and "reverse tracking"


> Hi. I'm pretty new to all this. I've had one successful contact in my
> life (with ISS, no less!), but I decided last night to try AO-16. I
> have an ICOM IC-910H. I put it into satellite mode, and set it up to
> receive LSB/USB on 437.0260 MHz, and transmit FM on 145.9200 MHz.
>
> One thing the IC-910H instructions said to do is transmit a tone (like
> a whistle) and be sure one can receive that. After listening for some
> time (to a nearly overhead pass), at 5am, I tried doing that. Now, I
> *think* I heard myself, but a weird thing was if my whistle tone got
> lower in pitch it sounded higher. Not sure if that was just my
> imagination.
>
> In any case, MacDoppler seemed to be changing frequencies differently
> for transmit vs. receive. The 910H's manual talks about reverse
> tracking, where doppler on receive goes up while it goes down on
> transmit.
>
> Could someone clarify these things for me? Why would they be different?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Rick
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> --
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> Checked by AVG.
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> 10:48 AM

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:25:35 -0300
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
To: w8iss(AT)wideopenwest.com
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
	<49657a760803171825n30e1424j6a46dcf692f6b723(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM,  <w8iss(AT)wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> Bruce,
>
>  Do you have Gnome Predict installed also? I have found the same problem
after
>  installing Gpredict, but it will do it still even after uninstalling
gpredict.
>
>  James W8ISS

I just checked my Ubuntu 7.10 and, no, I did not have the gpredict
package installed. In a private letter to KD2BD, I noted two other
things: first, if I uninstalled the package and built predict from
source  the result was a properly-functioning copy of predict;
secondly, the 'broken' copies could be fixed by putting a predict.tle
and predict.db file from a working copy in the ~/.predict directory.
It must be something about the routines that create those files for
the first time in ~/.predict; however, permissions are an obvious
problem because the predict.qth file makes it just fine.

73, Bruce
VE9QRP

>
>  ---------- Original Message -----------
>  From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
>  To: "John Heaton" <john(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
>  Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>  Sent: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:23:58 -0300
>  Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
>
>  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 7:37 AM, John Heaton <john(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
>  > wrote:
>  > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>  > >  Hash: SHA1
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  On 16 Mar 2008, at 05:50, Bruce Robertson wrote:
>  > >  > Your Predict is possibly dying for a lack of a TLE file. Point to
one
>  > >  > with the -t command-line parameter. Ensure also that a qth file is
>  > >  > being created in ~/.predict and that you as user can read it with,
>  > >  > e.g. 'cat'. I believe predict is supposed to find a tle file in that
>  > >  > same directory, but I think I've had troubles with that option.
>  > >
>  > >  Predict will run without a TLE file - you won't see any predictions
>  >
>  > I just double-checked this, and I still find that if there is no tle
>  > file and none pointed to with a -t switch, it will die as Kent
>  > described below. Namely, it will send you to the new user screen and
>  > then exit when the info is entered. (Unfortunately, it exits with the
>  > terminal in a funny state.) In my experience, it does this on a fresh
>  > install with apt-get on Ubuntu, or with a build install (using root).
>  > This is a frustrating loop for the user, since he or she can
>  > reasonably expect that the data is entered after the first attempt,
>  > and furthermore the qth file can be found in the ~/.predict
>  >
>  > I've taken a screenshot and posted it at
>  > http://heml.mta.ca/Amsat/predict-fail.png
>  >
>  > If, however, you use -t to point it to a tle file it can't parse, it
>  > will do as you, John, describe above. More specifically, you can
>  > select the [P] option from the main menu, but this results in a blank
>  > list of satellites from which to choose.
>  >
>  > For instance, the following command will produce this effect:
>  > brucerob(AT)heml:~$ touch foo
>  > brucerob(AT)heml:~$ predict -t foo
>  >
>  > I get the exact same effect if I use the documented nasa tle files.
>  > For example:
>  >
>  > brucerob(AT)heml:~$ wget
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
>  > brucerob(AT)heml:~$ predict -t nasa.all
>  >
>  > Fails the same as my 'foo' file above. However if I edit out the
>  > comments in the file describing the file format so that the first
>  > line begins with 'AO-07', predict operates normally.
>  >
>  > >  > Finally, make sure that your tle file does not have any comments at
>  > >  > its top before the actual elements. For instance, the commonly used
>  > >  > nasa.tle files have a set of comments describing the tle format.
>  > >  > Predict dies on these.
>  > >
>  > >  Predict ignores data in the TLE file before the TLE data, so if you
>  > >  get your TLE as a meil message you don't need to remove the headers
>  >
>  > Perhaps predict is written to ignore the headers of a mail message,
>  > but not the comments that appear in the nasa file?
>  >
>  > I hope it is understood that I'm documenting this because I like
>  > predict and consider it a wonderful arrow in AMSAT's quiver. Indeed,
>  > since it might be a potential AMSAT'er's first encounter with pass
>  > prediction -- given that it is part of the debian world -- I think we
>  > should ensure that it is very easy to use. Furthermore it
>  > cross-compiles like a dream: as I've said elsewhere it works
>  > identically on a Nokia N800; and another member of this list got it
>  > to run on the gumstix platform.
>  >
>  > 73, Bruce
>  > VE9QRP
>  >
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Kent R. Frazier
<k5knt(AT)amsat.org>
>  > >  > wrote:
>  > >  >> I just installed Ubuntu Linux 7.10 and Predict 2.2.3 on my
>  > >  >> notebook. When I
>  > >  >>  start Predict I get the "new user" screen where I enter the
required
>  > >  >>  information. After pressing the "enter" key on the last entry I
>  > >  >> get a
>  > >  >>  command prompt. I can not seem to get to the main menu.
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >>  Is anyone using this software that could offer some suggestions?
>  > >  >> Or maybe
>  > >  >>  another alternative to run under Linux?
>  > >
>
> > _______________________________________________
>  > Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
>  > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>  > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>  ------- End of Original Message -------

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:04:49 -0400
From: "Tyler Harpster" <tyler881(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  HP test gear... for free
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <005c01c8889c$726ab290$14f23a47(AT)DD9MR751>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hello!  It's time to clean out the basement... again.

I have a HP 628A SHF signal generator that needs a home.  I bought it at a
hamfest about a year ago really cheaply because it was going to go to the
scrapyard.  It looks fine cosmetically, but I have never powered it up, so
it's a complete unknown.   IT'S A FREEBIE!   I can deliver it to the
Baltimore hamfest on the 28th and 29th, or if you really want it, you'll
have to pay shipping or pick it up from 17361, Shrewsbury, PA.

I also have a HP 536 Frequency meter.  I picked it up from an estate sale 2
years ago.  It's a bit odd and I had to look it up to see how the thing
works.  Cosmetically it looks fine, but again, I have no way of testing it.
The delivery options from above are the same for this item.

Thanks,

Tyler
KM3G
tyler881(AT)comcast.net

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:16:50 -0400
From: "Snyderb" <snyderb(AT)cox.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Fw:  Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
To: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <002201c8889e$2025d620$6401a8c0(AT)Kitchen>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
To: <w8iss(AT)wideopenwest.com>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:25 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux


> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM,  <w8iss(AT)wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> Bruce,
>>
>>  Do you have Gnome Predict installed also? I have found the same problem
>> after
>>  installing Gpredict, but it will do it still even after uninstalling
>> gpredict.
>>
>>  James W8ISS
>
> I just checked my Ubuntu 7.10 and, no, I did not have the gpredict
> package installed. In a private letter to KD2BD, I noted two other
> things: first, if I uninstalled the package and built predict from
> source  the result was a properly-functioning copy of predict;
> secondly, the 'broken' copies could be fixed by putting a predict.tle
> and predict.db file from a working copy in the ~/.predict directory.
> It must be something about the routines that create those files for
> the first time in ~/.predict; however, permissions are an obvious
> problem because the predict.qth file makes it just fine.
>
> 73, Bruce
> VE9QRP
>
>>
>>  ---------- Original Message -----------
>>  From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
>>  To: "John Heaton" <john(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
>>  Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>>  Sent: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:23:58 -0300
>>  Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
>>
>>  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 7:37 AM, John Heaton <john(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
>>  > wrote:
>>  > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>  > >  Hash: SHA1
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >  On 16 Mar 2008, at 05:50, Bruce Robertson wrote:
>>  > >  > Your Predict is possibly dying for a lack of a TLE file. Point to
>> one
>>  > >  > with the -t command-line parameter. Ensure also that a qth file
>> is
>>  > >  > being created in ~/.predict and that you as user can read it
>> with,
>>  > >  > e.g. 'cat'. I believe predict is supposed to find a tle file in
>> that
>>  > >  > same directory, but I think I've had troubles with that option.
>>  > >
>>  > >  Predict will run without a TLE file - you won't see any predictions
>>  >
>>  > I just double-checked this, and I still find that if there is no tle
>>  > file and none pointed to with a -t switch, it will die as Kent
>>  > described below. Namely, it will send you to the new user screen and
>>  > then exit when the info is entered. (Unfortunately, it exits with the
>>  > terminal in a funny state.) In my experience, it does this on a fresh
>>  > install with apt-get on Ubuntu, or with a build install (using root).
>>  > This is a frustrating loop for the user, since he or she can
>>  > reasonably expect that the data is entered after the first attempt,
>>  > and furthermore the qth file can be found in the ~/.predict
>>  >
>>  > I've taken a screenshot and posted it at
>>  > http://heml.mta.ca/Amsat/predict-fail.png
>>  >
>>  > If, however, you use -t to point it to a tle file it can't parse, it
>>  > will do as you, John, describe above. More specifically, you can
>>  > select the [P] option from the main menu, but this results in a blank
>>  > list of satellites from which to choose.
>>  >
>>  > For instance, the following command will produce this effect:
>>  > brucerob(AT)heml:~$ touch foo
>>  > brucerob(AT)heml:~$ predict -t foo
>>  >
>>  > I get the exact same effect if I use the documented nasa tle files.
>>  > For example:
>>  >
>>  > brucerob(AT)heml:~$ wget
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
>>  > brucerob(AT)heml:~$ predict -t nasa.all
>>  >
>>  > Fails the same as my 'foo' file above. However if I edit out the
>>  > comments in the file describing the file format so that the first
>>  > line begins with 'AO-07', predict operates normally.
>>  >
>>  > >  > Finally, make sure that your tle file does not have any comments
>> at
>>  > >  > its top before the actual elements. For instance, the commonly
>> used
>>  > >  > nasa.tle files have a set of comments describing the tle format.
>>  > >  > Predict dies on these.
>>  > >
>>  > >  Predict ignores data in the TLE file before the TLE data, so if you
>>  > >  get your TLE as a meil message you don't need to remove the headers
>>  >
>>  > Perhaps predict is written to ignore the headers of a mail message,
>>  > but not the comments that appear in the nasa file?
>>  >
>>  > I hope it is understood that I'm documenting this because I like
>>  > predict and consider it a wonderful arrow in AMSAT's quiver. Indeed,
>>  > since it might be a potential AMSAT'er's first encounter with pass
>>  > prediction -- given that it is part of the debian world -- I think we
>>  > should ensure that it is very easy to use. Furthermore it
>>  > cross-compiles like a dream: as I've said elsewhere it works
>>  > identically on a Nokia N800; and another member of this list got it
>>  > to run on the gumstix platform.
>>  >
>>  > 73, Bruce
>>  > VE9QRP
>>  >
>>  > >
>>  > >  >
>>  > >  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Kent R. Frazier
>> <k5knt(AT)amsat.org>
>>  > >  > wrote:
>>  > >  >> I just installed Ubuntu Linux 7.10 and Predict 2.2.3 on my
>>  > >  >> notebook. When I
>>  > >  >>  start Predict I get the "new user" screen where I enter the
>> required
>>  > >  >>  information. After pressing the "enter" key on the last entry I
>>  > >  >> get a
>>  > >  >>  command prompt. I can not seem to get to the main menu.
>>  > >  >>
>>  > >  >>  Is anyone using this software that could offer some
>> suggestions?
>>  > >  >> Or maybe
>>  > >  >>  another alternative to run under Linux?
>>  > >
>>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:21:43 -0700
From: "K7WIN - Jeff" <k7win(AT)k7win.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Help with rotor control and GS-232B
To: "'Scott Gillis'" <sgillis(AT)toyotaofwaldorf.com>,
	<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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Hi Scott,
I am using the GS-232B/G-5500 with SatPC32 (Yaesu_GS-232 rotor selection)
and a Kenwood TS-2000X and it works very well. I haven't tried it with Nova.
SatPC32 does have a radio selection for the 910H so I presume SatPC32 would
control both Doppler and your rotor just fine. You could download the trial
version (http://www.dk1tb.de/satpcsetup_a.ZIP) and give it a try. If you are
a member of AMSAT then it would only be $45 to register the application.
SatPC32 is a little complex at first; however, if you spend some time to get
comfortable with it, I am sure you will like it.

I hope you get everything working.

73 Jeff - K7WIN

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Behalf Of Scott Gillis
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:14 PM
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with rotor control and GS-232B

Hope I can get some good feedback on this issue.

I bought a GS-232B and "assumed" (sigh) that it would be backwards
compatible (meaning anything written for any GS-232 would work)

I don't seem so lucky (or at least it seams that way with NOVA for
Windows).

I'm looking for suggestions on what software package (or combination) I
need to control my ICOM 910H and my GS-232B.

Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated

73
Scott Gillis N3UJJ
My Current Location <http://location.n3ujj.com/>
My Amateur Weather Station <http://weather.n3ujj.com/>

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:30:50 -0600
From: Alvaro de Leon Romo <xe2at(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  HQ8R
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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I talked in 40m with Bill NZ5N in Swan Is and he will be Tomorrow Tuesday in
the morning in AO51 so GL all...
Al XE2AT
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Swan Island DXpedition update
To: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org,
	fm-satellite(AT)yahoogroups.com, moon-net(AT)list-serv.davidv.net
Cc: sixclub(AT)mailman.qth.net, wsjtgroup(AT)yahoogroups.com
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Well, the "23 hour boat ride" took 31 hours, rough
seas and slow going.  I was not too active on the LEOs
due to the conditions, although had a lot of fun
working MM on HF from the bridge.

We landed about 2:30pm and worked fantically to get
set up before dark.  One HF SSB station is in
operation this evening, although we are having
technical problems with the generators and some rigs.

Boyd and I worked late to get the 2m station up, the
6m antenna goes up in the morning.  We made one EME
qso with W5UN and then lost the amp, may be just a
cable issue.

Look for us on Ping Jockeys in the morning.

73, Bill NZ5N

Worked our very first QSO of the expedition with W5VG
on AO-27 with the HT and the Arrow before the
generators were turned on.  Also worked a few on AO-51
this evening.  But please folks on the FM birds, stand
by and give everyone a chance to work us and get the
new grid.
--- Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:

> The boat is repaired and we leave for Swan at 1200z
> on
> Sunday.  Arrive early Monday.  We will have a
> maritime
> mobile op on HF and LEOs all day tomorrow.  Moonrise
> at 2030z on Monday and we will be on 6 and 2 eme
> then.
>  Will try meteor scatter on Tuesday morning after
> moonset.
> 73, Bill NZ5N
> --- Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > due to mechanical problem with the boat, we are
> > stuck
> > in trujillo, grid ek66, and will not arrive at
> swan
> > island until monday.  will be operating on hf and
> > the
> > sats tonite and saturday, we may also break out
> the
> > 2m
> > yagi and amp for a little eme and ms, but it would
> > be
> > difficult to unpack and repack.  will be on so50
> at
> > 0400z friday evening.
> > 73, bill
> > --- Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It looks like a go for the HQ6A expedition this
> > > weekend.  The 6m and 2m gear has arrived safely
> in
> > > Honduras, so let's hope for favorable
> propogation.
> >
> > > I
> > > arrive in San Pedro Sula, EK65, on Thursday
> > > afternoon.
> > >  At the very least, I hope to make some
> satellite
> > > contacts from there on Thursday evening and
> Friday
> > > morning.  On Friday, we go by land to Trujillo,
> > > EK75,
> > > then 23 hours by boat, leaving Saturday morning,
> > > through grid EK76, and arriving at our
> > destination,
> > > Big Swan Island, EK87, on Sunday morning.
> > Satellite
> > > contacts should be possible from any of these
> > > locations, and I know a major HF operation is
> > > planned
> > > from the boat, but since the amps and big
> antennas
> > > are
> > > packed up it seems doubtful any serious EME or
> > > meteor
> > > work can be done before we get to the island,
> > maybe
> > > if
> > > lucky some 6m E skip with a small antenna.
> > >
> > > We will have internet and will post news on
> > > reflectors
> > > and DX clusters.  Log and other info on our
> > website
> > > at
> > >  http://www.hondurasdx.com/.
> > >
> > > 73, Bill NZ5N
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:04:11 +0530
From: "Prathap Kumar" <vu2pop(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Coax run on the Beams
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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Hi All
I have a question regarding the coax run on the boom or cross arm supporting
the Vhf and Uhf beams.
All these years I was feeding the coax to the beams running it backwards and
allowing it to drop behind the relector downward as suggested, that it does
not affect the performance.

But most pictures I see these days have the coax being run forward towards
the centre and supported on the crossarm and brought downward to the AZEL
rotor.
Now does these different coax runs have any  effect on the performance
forward gain or radiation  pattern ?

Just a few days ago I had a tough time on the new tower lifting the 2 beams
with coax weight at the back and placing it on the rotator.
Hence if it does not matter much I plan to change the coax run towards the
centre and bring to the crossarm holding the V and U cross yagis.

Looking forward to your valuable suggestions and knowledge.
Best 73
Pop
VU2POP

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