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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 220 MHz Radios and Region 2 Hams (Edward Cole)
2. Re: presentation for hamfest (Wayne Estes)
3. Re: Pass prediction software requirement (Ollie Eisman)
4. Re: presentation for hamfest (Mark Vandewettering)
5. Symek TNC31S 38,400/9,600 bps FSK modem (Stacey E. Mills)
6. Re: presentation for hamfest (Bob Bruninga )
7. Re: NZ5N/HR status ?? (Scott Richardson)
8. Re: 220 MHz Radios and Region 2 Hams (Lowell White)
9. Re: presentation for hamfest (Roger Kolakowski)
10. Predict 2.2.3 for Linux (Kent R. Frazier)
11. Re: presentation for hamfest (Dave Guimont)
12. Re: [SPAM] Predict 2.2.3 for Linux (Andrew Rich)
13. Re: Swan Island DXpedition update (Bill Dzurilla)
14. Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux (Bruce Robertson)
15. Re: NZ5N/HR status ?? (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
16. Re: 220 MHz Radios and Region 2 Hams (Trevor)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:03:48 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 220 MHz Radios and Region 2 Hams
To: James Duffey <JamesDuffey(AT)comcast.net>, G8IFF/KC8NHF
<nigel(AT)ngunn.net>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <200803152003.m2FK3mQU034534(AT)malik.acsalaska.net>
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This discussion makes me want to begin production of a VHF/UHF
muti-mode SDR with dual Rx and plenty of access for addition of
modems into wide-band circuits...i.e one that incorporates all our
"wish lists". I wonder if the Gates Foundation has any grant money
for a poor dillussionary ham wannabee entrepreneur? Ha ;-)
KL7UW
At 07:03 AM 3/15/2008, James Duffey wrote:
>Nigel - ITU Region 2 includes all of what geographers call the western
>hemishpere, including South America. As you surmise, the US has about
>3/4 of the hams in Region 2. Region 2 has about a third of the World's
>hams.
>
>I suspect that several thousand 220 MHz multimode rigs could be sold,
>enough to recoup development costs and have a bit left over for
>profit. If an existing platform were used as a basis for the rig, or
>220 MHz incorporated into other VHF/UHF multimode rigs development
>costs would be low.
>
>US Ham gear manufacturers Elecraft and DEMI both make 222MHz
>transverters and in Elecraft's case they integrate nicely with the K2
>to provide what nearly transparent operation controlled by the K2.
>They still are separate boxes though.
>
>The US manufacturers are victims of the return on investment paradigm
>embraced by many modern companies. They have limited resources and
>those resources are used to address the big markets, high performance
>do everything HF transceivers and smart HF linears. The development
>funds never make it down to the demand for secondary ham markets like
>VHF/UHF multi mode rigs, nor to tertiary or niche markets like 220 MHz.
>
>The trend towards putting lots of functions into firmware that can be
>revised also drains resources away from development resources for the
>secondary markets. The Ten-Tec 6N2, a nice duo band rig, was dropped
>by Ten-Tec when resources were diverted to support the Orion, even
>though the 6N2 was well thought of by hams and sold reasonably well.
>With this happening to a reasonably popular rig, imagine the
>difficulty in getting development of a 220 MHz rig started. The 6N2
>was leveraged from the Argonaut.
>
>The 222 MHz band suffers in the USA from an uncertain future and has
>for the last 25 or 30 years. This uncertainty has limited interest in
>the band, both by potential users and by potential manufacturers. It
>enjoyed a brief stint of popularity in the late 70s as a refuge from
>the crowded 144 MHz band during the FM explosion of the 70s. A number
>of companies dipped their toe into the 1.25 M waters including
>Vibroplex and Sears Roebuck. Then UPS made a proposal to the FCC to
>take the band for a communication, location, and tracking service.
>This pretty much stopped any manufacturer interest in producing 220
>MHz equipment. And that slowed interest in the band by hams. The FCC
>finally gave UPS the bottom 2 MHz of the band and they promptly
>abandoned any plan for it. People are atill unusre of what the future
>holds for the band.
>
>Not all Americans that reside in the USA are the jingoistic egotists
>you imagine. Most are not. The current low exchange rate has made that
>painfully clear to most of us, as have rising energy costs. We live in
>a global economy. In the long run, that benefits everybody. I would
>like a 220 MHz multimode rig. I don't care where it comes from. I
>realize that most of the World's hams, including you, could care less
>about this. I don't have a problem with this. The rise of Japanese
>radio manufacturers was a contributing cause of the demise of ham
>radio manufacturing in this country. Some of us would like them to
>realize that they have most of the ham radio market here and that
>providing a rig that provides 220 MHz capabilities for an area in
>which they dominate the market is not too much to ask. They could
>probably make a buck or two on the deal in the meantime. - Duffey
>
>--
>KK6MC
>James Duffey
>Cedar Crest NM
>
>
>
>
>
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73, Ed - KL7UW BP40iq, 6m - 3cm
144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xp20, 185w
http://www.kl7uw.com AK VHF-Up Group
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:29:25 -0600
From: Wayne Estes <w9ae(AT)charter.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: presentation for hamfest
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <47DC3FB5.9070908(AT)charter.net>
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Bob Bruninga wrote:
The #1 point I make at hamfests are:
1) You dont need special antennas
2) You dont need elevation rotators
3) You dont need tracking software
4) Just operate from your mobile FM or APRS rig anytime you are
commuting or otherwise in the car.
Wayne replies:
I'm amused at your presumption that all hams have a mobile ham radio and
spend a great deal of time in their car.
Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:35:34 -0600
From: Ollie Eisman <ollie(AT)earthrobot.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction software requirement
To: David <m0zlb(AT)btinternet.com>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <4D219F80-41D9-4B42-9AC0-3E11E7E47516(AT)earthrobot.com>
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I run the web-based software on the AMSAT website on my iPhone.
Maybe there will be some cool apps after the SDK is has been out for a
bit.
On Mar 15, 2008, at 9:24 AM, David <m0zlb(AT)btinternet.com> wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a program that is suitable for a 32gig Apple
> iTouch?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> David
> KG4ZLB/M0ZLB
> Amsat UK
>
> m0zlb(AT)btinternet.com
> david.m0zlb(AT)gmail.com
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:18:54 -0700
From: Mark Vandewettering <mvandewettering(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: presentation for hamfest
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <17F18915-BEF4-41D0-8140-7C23C351DD38(AT)gmail.com>
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On Mar 15, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Wayne Estes wrote:
> Bob Bruninga wrote:
>
> The #1 point I make at hamfests are:
> 1) You dont need special antennas
> 2) You dont need elevation rotators
> 3) You dont need tracking software
> 4) Just operate from your mobile FM or APRS rig anytime you are
> commuting or otherwise in the car.
>
> Wayne replies:
>
> I'm amused at your presumption that all hams have a mobile ham radio
> and
> spend a great deal of time in their car.
I think it's a fair guess that more of them have mobiles than have alt-
az
rotors driving large antenna arrays. Bob's point (and it's a good
one) is
that you don't need that kind of equipment to work satellites and have
fun, and it _is_ a message that bears repeating.
If you look at The Radio Amateur's Satellite Handbook, you might not
even realize that you can work satellites that way. It'll tell you
all about
helix antennas and stuff that you might be able to use on birds which
are no longer active, or which might be active in the future, but really
doesn't tell you very much about working FM birds in the obvious,
inexpensive and fun way that I enjoy: QRP with a handheld Yagi.
I've worked from Hawaii to Maine, Manitoba to Socoros Island. It's
really
a hoot. I've also bounced APRS packets off
NO-44 and the ISS using just 5w into the mag mount whip on top
of my car.
It's a blast. It's gotten me excited about satellites. It made me a
member
of AMSAT.
Check out the ARRL handbook chapter on space communications. You'll
see a great deal about satellites that no longer fly, and microwave
modes
that are only part time on AO-51. It's really shameful that
absolutely no
mention of the fun of operating satellites mobile and QRP is made in the
premier publication of the ARRL.
Bob's message is a good one: you probably _can_ work sats, without a
huge investment of time, without a fixed ground station, without
computer
controlled doppler, without 17 element antennas. If anyone is even
faintly
interested, they can do it. I think they need to hear that.
Mark KF6KYI
>
>
> Wayne Estes W9AE
> Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:27:00 -0400
From: "Stacey E. Mills" <w4sm(AT)keplerian.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Symek TNC31S 38,400/9,600 bps FSK modem
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org (Amsat Bulletin Board)
Message-ID: <E0.0E.07819.8596CD74(AT)smtp07.embarq.synacor.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
I've listed a Symek TNC31S modem/TNC setup for 38,400 bps FSK
downlink and 9,600 bps FSK uplink on Ebay, Item #330220133088.
This unit is for high speed downlink satellite use as when AO-51 is
in 38,400 bps downlink mode. These units are still in production and
thanks to the devalued dollar currently sell for about $420.00
new. This one is in perfect shape. Manuals can be found at www.symek.com.
Thanks for looking.
-Stacey
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Stacey E. Mills, W4SM WWW: http://www.keplerian.com
Charlottesville, VA PGP key: http://www.keplerian.com/key
_______________________________________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:43:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: presentation for hamfest
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <20080315214322.AFH15723(AT)mp3.nettest.usna.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> I'm amused at your presumption that all hams
> have a mobile ham radio and spend a great
> deal of time in their car.
Actually, I am amazed/amused at the number that don't. Nationally, the
average person spends what, 45 minutes a day in their cars commuting...?
And if we are to fulfill our radio service mission, are we not all supposed to
be prepared to comunicate in emergencies? So it has always been a surprise of
mine that some very active hams in fact do not have an FM rig in their car...
I'm not saying they need to use it, but It seems that it would be good
preparation to have one, at least an HT in the glove box. I guess it is the
boy scout legacy to be prepared. But then today, that means having a cell
phone, not a ham radio....;-)
On the otherhand, I can admire that many people do in fact have another life
besides ham radio too.
I now drive to and from work, purposefully not on any commuter repeater. But
my APRS position report always shows what frequency I am monitoring so that I
can be called if needed. Family communications also plays a big part, and so
monitoring a normally quiet repeater makes contact easier. A brief satellite
pass is also fun sometimes.
This is just my current state in life. It will change. So I do not in anyway
suggest any judgement on others use of Ham radio or lack thereof. I actually
longingly remember 20 years ago when I actually did have some time to play
radio while doing something other than commuting...
And the empty nest is less than a year away...
Bob, WbAPR
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:44:41 -0400
From: "Scott Richardson" <scott(AT)aves-specta.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NZ5N/HR status ??
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <005d01c88707$4e81cf30$6501a8c0(AT)seaturtle>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Heard HR/NZ5N and XE2AT at the same time this morning. Swan I departure now
scheduled for Monday.
73, Scott N1AIA
XE2AT wrote:
> Was Bill NZ5N/HR in the morning this Saturday ????
> Which grid is he now ??
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:48:29 -0500
From: "Lowell White" <whiteld(AT)usa.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 220 MHz Radios and Region 2 Hams
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <677mcPBvd8730S27.1205632109(AT)cmsweb27.cms.usa.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
------ Original Message ------
Received: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:36:52 PM CDT
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
To: James Duffey <JamesDuffey(AT)comcast.net>, G8IFF/KC8NHF
<nigel(AT)ngunn.net>Cc:
AMSAT <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 220 MHz Radios and Region 2 Hams
> This discussion makes me want to begin production of a VHF/UHF
> muti-mode SDR with dual Rx and plenty of access for addition of
> modems into wide-band circuits...i.e one that incorporates all our
> "wish lists". I wonder if the Gates Foundation has any grant money
> for a poor dillussionary ham wannabee entrepreneur? Ha ;-)
>
> KL7UW
Then maybe you want to take a look at http://www.ettus.com/
I'm not affiliated with Matt but respect the work he's done with the
equipment. Take a look. You may be pleasantly surprised.
73 de Lowell
K9LDW
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:31:39 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola(AT)aol.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: presentation for hamfest
To: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <003b01c8870d$dd5021c0$0200a8c0(AT)Tanguray>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Bob noted...
>On the otherhand, I can admire that many people do in
>fact have another life besides ham radio...
There's something other than Ham Radio in life?
Roger
WA1KAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
> > I'm amused at your presumption that all hams
> > have a mobile ham radio and spend a great
> > deal of time in their car.
>
> Actually, I am amazed/amused at the number that don't. Nationally, the
average person spends what, 45 minutes a day in their cars commuting...?
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:59:27 -0500
From: "Kent R. Frazier" <k5knt(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<7caa889a0803152059r43511beci33d81e729b16c435(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I just installed Ubuntu Linux 7.10 and Predict 2.2.3 on my notebook. When I
start Predict I get the "new user" screen where I enter the required
information. After pressing the "enter" key on the last entry I get a
command prompt. I can not seem to get to the main menu.
Is anyone using this software that could offer some suggestions? Or maybe
another alternative to run under Linux?
Thanks,
Kent
--
Kent R. Frazier, K5KNT
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:04:34 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: presentation for hamfest
To: Wayne Estes <w9ae(AT)charter.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<20080316040435.KCZI25331.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 02:29 PM 3/15/2008, you wrote:
>Bob Bruninga wrote:
>
>The #1 point I make at hamfests are:
>1) You dont need special antennas
>2) You dont need elevation rotators
>3) You dont need tracking software
>4) Just operate from your mobile FM or APRS rig anytime you are
>commuting or otherwise in the car.
>
>Wayne replies:
>
>I'm amused at your presumption that all hams have a mobile ham radio and
> spend a great deal of time in their car.
>
>Wayne Estes W9AE
>Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
>
Yes, so am I Wayne! If button pushing on a hand held was all there
is to amateur radio, I doubt it would have held my interest for 70 years!!
But maybe that is all some have the capability to do?? And there is
certainly nothing wrong with that, I suppose...
But I'd have an awful sore thumb by now!!!
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:51:27 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec(AT)people.net.au>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [SPAM] Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
To: "Kent R. Frazier" <k5knt(AT)amsat.org>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000801c886bc$d03e5a20$6501a8c0(AT)home7bfc9638a1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
i remember something like this
it was trying to write a file and could not due to permissions
it was trying to create the config file
try root and then another user
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent R. Frazier" <k5knt(AT)amsat.org>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:59 PM
Subject: [SPAM] [amsat-bb] Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
>I just installed Ubuntu Linux 7.10 and Predict 2.2.3 on my notebook. When I
> start Predict I get the "new user" screen where I enter the required
> information. After pressing the "enter" key on the last entry I get a
> command prompt. I can not seem to get to the main menu.
>
> Is anyone using this software that could offer some suggestions? Or maybe
> another alternative to run under Linux?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kent
>
> --
> Kent R. Frazier, K5KNT
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Swan Island DXpedition update
To: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org,
fm-satellite(AT)yahoogroups.com, moon-net(AT)list-serv.davidv.net
Cc: sixclub(AT)mailman.qth.net, wsjtgroup(AT)yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <514901.66702.qm(AT)web51110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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The boat is repaired and we leave for Swan at 1200z on
Sunday. Arrive early Monday. We will have a maritime
mobile op on HF and LEOs all day tomorrow. Moonrise
at 2030z on Monday and we will be on 6 and 2 eme then.
Will try meteor scatter on Tuesday morning after
moonset.
73, Bill NZ5N
--- Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:
> due to mechanical problem with the boat, we are
> stuck
> in trujillo, grid ek66, and will not arrive at swan
> island until monday. will be operating on hf and
> the
> sats tonite and saturday, we may also break out the
> 2m
> yagi and amp for a little eme and ms, but it would
> be
> difficult to unpack and repack. will be on so50 at
> 0400z friday evening.
> 73, bill
> --- Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It looks like a go for the HQ6A expedition this
> > weekend. The 6m and 2m gear has arrived safely in
> > Honduras, so let's hope for favorable propogation.
>
> > I
> > arrive in San Pedro Sula, EK65, on Thursday
> > afternoon.
> > At the very least, I hope to make some satellite
> > contacts from there on Thursday evening and Friday
> > morning. On Friday, we go by land to Trujillo,
> > EK75,
> > then 23 hours by boat, leaving Saturday morning,
> > through grid EK76, and arriving at our
> destination,
> > Big Swan Island, EK87, on Sunday morning.
> Satellite
> > contacts should be possible from any of these
> > locations, and I know a major HF operation is
> > planned
> > from the boat, but since the amps and big antennas
> > are
> > packed up it seems doubtful any serious EME or
> > meteor
> > work can be done before we get to the island,
> maybe
> > if
> > lucky some 6m E skip with a small antenna.
> >
> > We will have internet and will post news on
> > reflectors
> > and DX clusters. Log and other info on our
> website
> > at
> > http://www.hondurasdx.com/.
> >
> > 73, Bill NZ5N
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:50:02 -0300
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Predict 2.2.3 for Linux
To: "Kent R. Frazier" <k5knt(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<49657a760803152250v60ddf330g89fe7a16836c94e9(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Your Predict is possibly dying for a lack of a TLE file. Point to one
with the -t command-line parameter. Ensure also that a qth file is
being created in ~/.predict and that you as user can read it with,
e.g. 'cat'. I believe predict is supposed to find a tle file in that
same directory, but I think I've had troubles with that option.
Finally, make sure that your tle file does not have any comments at
its top before the actual elements. For instance, the commonly used
nasa.tle files have a set of comments describing the tle format.
Predict dies on these.
I've ported predict to the Nokia N800 palmtop linux machine. On both
it and a recent Ubuntu build, it seems the ncurses formatting can
sometimes leave residual effects in the terminal. For instance, when
exiting from the condition that Kent describes, I end up with a
colored xterm that does not echo my typed commands.
I suppose if anyone wanted to spruce up the Predict source code I
would recommend allowing comments within tle files and fixing the
terminal on exit.
73, Bruce
VE9QRP
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Kent R. Frazier <k5knt(AT)amsat.org> wrote:
> I just installed Ubuntu Linux 7.10 and Predict 2.2.3 on my notebook. When I
> start Predict I get the "new user" screen where I enter the required
> information. After pressing the "enter" key on the last entry I get a
> command prompt. I can not seem to get to the main menu.
>
> Is anyone using this software that could offer some suggestions? Or maybe
> another alternative to run under Linux?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kent
>
> --
> Kent R. Frazier, K5KNT
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:10:46 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb(AT)wd9ewk.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NZ5N/HR status ??
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Buenas noches, estimado Alvaro!
> Was Bill NZ5N/HR in the morning this Saturday ????
> Which grid is he now ??
Saturday morning he was on the 1808 UTC SO-50 pass, and
then in the evening was on the 0113 UTC AO-51 pass. He
said he was in EK66, IDing as HR3/NZ5N on both of those
passes.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:07:28 +0000 (GMT)
From: Trevor <m5aka(AT)yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 220 MHz Radios and Region 2 Hams
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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--- James Duffey <JamesDuffey(AT)comcast.net> wrote:
> The rise of Japanese
> radio manufacturers was a contributing cause of the demise of ham
> radio manufacturing in this country. Some of us would like them to
> realize that they have most of the ham radio market here and that
> providing a rig that provides 220 MHz capabilities for an area in
> which they dominate the market is not too much to ask. They could
> probably make a buck or two on the deal in the meantime. - Duffey
It seeems to me the Japanese manufacturers are primarily geared towards the
Japanese Amateur market. This is still the worlds largest market although it's
shrunk considerably since the days when Japan has 1.3 million Radio Hams. They
acheived that phenominal number through the introduction of a code free HF
Amateur licence way back in the 1950's.
In global terms Japanese Amateur rig manufacturers aren't really that big,
they
are small companies.
When Motorola took over Yaesu (Standard-Vertex) it wasn't the Amateur Radio
part they were interested in. The ham side was just a small niche division
that
happened to come with the rest of the business.
Over 40 DXCC countries have an Amateur band at 70 MHz but that suffers from
the
same lack of commercial rigs as 220 in the states.
I feel that unless an Amateur band is available globally it's just not going
to
be worth any manufacturer producing rigs for it. So it'll be up to Amateurs to
design and build their own rigs for their "local" bands.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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