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Today's Topics:
1. Satellite Demo Schedule for Dayton Hamvention - 16-18 May
2014 (Keith Pugh)
2. AO7-FO29-VO52 (PY5LF)
3. Re: FOX News (K6LCS trolling...) (Ted)
4. Re: FOX News (K6LCS trolling...) (Personal)
5. Freq at satellite (John / NS1Z)
6. SATPC32 - Freq at satellite (John / NS1Z)
7. Re: SATPC32 - Freq at satellite (Alan)
8. Re: SATPC32 - Freq at satellite (Rolf Krogstad)
9. G5500 el rotor (Bob- W7LRD)
10. Lessons I learned the hard way (Thomas Doyle)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 15:22:50 -0500
From: "Keith Pugh" <w5iu@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Demo Schedule for Dayton Hamvention -
16-18 May 2014
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I have attached the planned Satellite Demonstration Schedule for Dayton this
weekend 16-18 May 2014. It is also shown below. The times are in UTC. We
will have several operators and you will easily recognize most of them.
Please check in with us and help us demonstrate Amateur Radio Satellites to
the Crowd.
73 - Keith, W5IU
AMSAT DAYTON HAMVENTION DEMOS - 2014
TZ = UTC
N 39.820328 W 84.255224 ELEV. 296 M
MIN PEAK ELEV. = 10 DEG
GRID = EM79ut
* = Listen Only Pass - Telemetry, Doppler, Ant. Perf, etc.
WinAos QTH: -84.3/39.8 T#: 13284 Sat.: 7 [Standard]
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Day Objects AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl AZ
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16.05.2014 FO-29 12:12 12:31 19 60 017 - 184
16.05.2014 VO-52 12:23 12:34 11 39 002 - 211
16.05.2014 ISS * 12:30 12:38 08 11 298 - 053
16.05.2014 SO-50 12:50 13:02 12 42 193 - 039
16.05.2014 AO-07 13:00 13:15 15 12 000 - 266
16.05.2014 FO-29 13:58 14:15 17 26 359 - 229
16.05.2014 ISS * 14:08 14:16 08 14 316 - 078
16.05.2014 HO-68 * 14:11 14:30 19 40 023 - 176
16.05.2014 SO-50 14:31 14:43 12 22 248 - 024
16.05.2014 AO-73 * 15:16 15:27 11 22 029 - 161
16.05.2014 ISS * 15:45 15:54 09 50 312 - 117
16.05.2014 HO-68 * 15:59 16:17 18 39 007 - 222
16.05.2014 AO-73 * 16:52 17:04 12 34 001 - 215
16.05.2014 ISS * 17:22 17:30 08 17 288 - 164
16.05.2014 AO-07 20:12 20:31 19 43 135 - 349
17.05.2014 VO-52 12:38 12:49 11 27 357 - 219
17.05.2014 FO-29 13:03 13:21 18 62 008 - 206
17.05.2014 SO-50 13:17 13:29 12 64 217 - 031
17.05.2014 ISS * 13:19 13:27 08 12 311 - 068
17.05.2014 HO-68 * 13:54 14:12 18 30 026 - 167
17.05.2014 FO-29 14:49 15:02 13 11 349 - 255
17.05.2014 ISS * 14:56 15:06 10 30 313 - 107
17.05.2014 SO-50 15:00 15:09 09 11 276 - 018
17.05.2014 AO-73 15:38 15:50 12 37 023 - 175
17.05.2014 HO-68 * 15:42 16:00 18 50 009 - 216
17.05.2014 ISS * 16:33 16:42 09 30 298 - 151
17.05.2014 AO-73 17:14 17:25 11 21 356 - 229
17.05.2014 AO-07 19:14 19:32 18 20 108 - 353
17.05.2014 SO-50 20:09 20:19 10 13 345 - 096
18.05.2014 SO-50 12:04 12:15 11 31 184 - 043
18.05.2014 FO-29 12:07 12:26 19 57 018 - 183
18.05.2014 ISS * 12:31 12:38 07 11 312 - 061
18.05.2014 AO-07 12:53 13:08 15 13 001 - 265
18.05.2014 VO-52 12:53 13:03 10 19 352 - 229
18.05.2014 HO-68 * 13:38 13:55 17 23 031 - 160
18.05.2014 SO-50 13:44 13:56 12 28 240 - 025
18.05.2014 FO-29 13:53 14:10 17 28 360 - 228
18.05.2014 ISS * 14:08 14:17 09 22 316 - 097
18.05.2014 HO-68 * 15:25 15:44 19 65 011 - 208
18.05.2014 ISS * 15:45 15:54 09 54 302 - 138
18.05.2014 AO-73 15:59 16:12 13 65 015 - 187
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 18:59:42 -0300
From: "PY5LF" <py5lf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO7-FO29-VO52
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Hi
Nice sequence of sats here in GG54;
AO 7 AOS 18:20 LOS 18:23 follow by FO29 AOS 18:24 LOS 18:40 follow by VO52
AOS 18:41 LOS 18:54 !
Almost one hour of sat available.
PY5LF
Luciano Fabricio
Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm
http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 17:48:59 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Rolf Krogstad'" <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT BoD' <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FOX News (K6LCS trolling...)
Message-ID: <001501cf6d7b$f8521e50$e8f65af0$@xxx>
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All, don't take the bait on this...
He is just trolling for an opportunity to bash AMSAT..
....just an unhappy, bitter man....still
73, K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:47 AM
To: Rolf Krogstad
Cc: AMSAT BoD; AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FOX News
THANK YOU for your reply.
But the fact that we have two entirely different, valid interpretations of
the same paragraph means - to me - that it needed to be more clearly
explained.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
On May 11, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Clint K7LCS,
I suspect you are reading too much into the statement, or applying an
unintended interpretation to what was said/written.
In any hardware or software deployment, ham radio or otherwise, there can
never be enough testing. ?That was my interpretation of the statement. ?
Rolf ? NR0T
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
wrote:
"This delay is mixed news for AMSAT. While we are disappointed that this
will mean that Fox-1 will not fly in 2014, it also means that we have more
time to complete and test the spacecraft prior to delivery to SRI. In the
overall scheme of things, it allows AMSAT to have greater confidence in the
delivery of a thoroughly tested spacecraft by taking more time to allow for
unforeseen contingencies and to do the ground testing." -AMSAT-NA
You mean we were going to launch a project that was NOT already thoroughly
tested? AMSAT has a fiduciary responsibility to its donors to only launch
thoroughly tested projects.
Not quite sure what AMSAT-NA "meant" to say ... but this paragraph plainly
states that AMSAT might not have been able to provide a stable satellite to
the launch site on time anyway. It states that AMSAT might not be as
confident with a 2014 launch as they will be for a 2015 launch. What was
written states that the satellite is not ready for a
2014 launch.
If that IS the case, then we should all be relieved that it will not be
launching this year. If that is NOT the case, then AMSAT-NA needs someone to
proofread their releases before publishing.
Clint Bradford K6LCS
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 21:54:11 -0500
From: Personal <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FOX News (K6LCS trolling...)
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I don't know how far along the bird is as far as construction. The way I
read it was that with Tonys passing and the appointment of new team
leadership, it gives additional time to check and double check. I seriously
doubt that a satellite would be sent for integration and launch in a
questionable state. So while we have to wait longer, it's worth the wait.
And I hope they decide to hold out for the flight that will take us to the
longest lived orbit.
I'll stand by for the "you're and idiot" commentary.
73,
John AG9D
Sent from my iPad
> On May 11, 2014, at 7:48 PM, "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> All, don't take the bait on this...
>
> He is just trolling for an opportunity to bash AMSAT..
>
> ....just an unhappy, bitter man....still
>
> 73, K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Clint Bradford
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:47 AM
> To: Rolf Krogstad
> Cc: AMSAT BoD; AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FOX News
>
> THANK YOU for your reply.
>
> But the fact that we have two entirely different, valid interpretations of
> the same paragraph means - to me - that it needed to be more clearly
> explained.
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> 909-241-7666
>
> On May 11, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Clint K7LCS,
>
> I suspect you are reading too much into the statement, or applying an
> unintended interpretation to what was said/written.
>
> In any hardware or software deployment, ham radio or otherwise, there can
> never be enough testing. That was my interpretation of the statement.
>
>
> Rolf NR0T
>
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> "This delay is mixed news for AMSAT. While we are disappointed that this
> will mean that Fox-1 will not fly in 2014, it also means that we have more
> time to complete and test the spacecraft prior to delivery to SRI. In the
> overall scheme of things, it allows AMSAT to have greater confidence in the
> delivery of a thoroughly tested spacecraft by taking more time to allow for
> unforeseen contingencies and to do the ground testing." -AMSAT-NA
>
> You mean we were going to launch a project that was NOT already thoroughly
> tested? AMSAT has a fiduciary responsibility to its donors to only launch
> thoroughly tested projects.
>
> Not quite sure what AMSAT-NA "meant" to say ... but this paragraph plainly
> states that AMSAT might not have been able to provide a stable satellite to
> the launch site on time anyway. It states that AMSAT might not be as
> confident with a 2014 launch as they will be for a 2015 launch. What was
> written states that the satellite is not ready for a
> 2014 launch.
>
> If that IS the case, then we should all be relieved that it will not be
> launching this year. If that is NOT the case, then AMSAT-NA needs someone to
> proofread their releases before publishing.
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:01:40 -0400
From: "John / NS1Z" <ns1zjohn@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Freq at satellite
Message-ID: <E5386F942EA04EA9A4922ECCF801F250@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Running 12.8.B after many months and now I cannot remember how to get
the boxes under UPlink and DOWNline to show the frequency
?AT THE SATELLITE?. I seem to remember seeing it in one of the boxes above
the Earth window.
Thanks for the help.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:07:36 -0400
From: "John / NS1Z" <ns1zjohn@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 - Freq at satellite
Message-ID: <EB557D18775F436EB38EE97647EA4C61@xxxxxx>
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I left out one little detail...
I have SatPC32 12.8.B running and I would like to change the freq display to
show frequency at satellite.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:02:54 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'John / NS1Z'" <ns1zjohn@xxxxx.xxx>, "'amsat-bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 - Freq at satellite
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John,
I don't remember whether that is in 12.8B, but look at the Mode command. If
it is not there, it is
definitely in 12.8C, a free and easy update.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John / NS1Z
<Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:08 AM
<To: amsat-bb
<Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 - Freq at satellite
<
<I left out one little detail...
<
<I have SatPC32 12.8.B running and I would like to change the
<freq display to show frequency at satellite.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:53:08 -0500
From: Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "John / NS1Z" <ns1zjohn@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 - Freq at satellite
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John NS1Z,
Click on MODE
Then select radio button for "Freq. at Satellite"
73
Rolf NR0T
Grid EN34
Amsat #38889
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:07 AM, John / NS1Z <ns1zjohn@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I left out one little detail...
>
> I have SatPC32 12.8.B running and I would like to change the freq display
> to show frequency at satellite.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 16:31:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] G5500 el rotor
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
GM-has anyone had any experience installing the position potentiometer in
the elevation rotor.? Reason- they changed the?"type" of pot, it no longer
has that wire coming out the back, and the alignment key must be cut off to
make?it fit.? I could spend may hours figuring this out but hoping the
collective knowledge of this group has some good advice.? I have the
replacement pot, I could?just send the "basket case" rotor to Yaesu.? I'd
like to try to avoid that. ?As always--thankyou
73 Bob W7LRD
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 11:52:37 -0500
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lessons I learned the hard way
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When I was a young engineer working for Motorola Communication Division in
Chicago I recall a meeting where the engineers met with upper level
management on the release to production of a UHF mobile radio. Each
engineer had some additional tests they wanted to perform before it was
released to production and out of our hands. After listening to our
concerns for a fairly long time he said - "If it was up to you engineers we
would never release anything to production and we would have nothing to
sell and we would not have any money to pay you with". Never forgot that.
Any engineer worthy of his salt is never 100% sure about anything that is
going into an environment they can not control. The problem comes in when
there is suddenly more time to do additional testing and the time is used
to try out fun exciting new things rather than the much less
interesting and often boring testing and refining the existing product. I
do hope the hard working FOX crew takes advantage of the time they have
been given to make sure everything is right with the good work they have
done rather than trying out some new fun interesting things that could wind
up flying without adequate testing. We need something that works not
necessarily the latest trendy technology gadget. I have seen this happen
with unpleasant results in other non-AMSAT projects. In any event thanks to
the Fox crew for their hard work.
W9KE Tom Doyle
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