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Today's Topics:
1. Re: grid locator program (Bill Bordy, NJ1H )
2. Re: grid locator program (Alan)
3. Re: grid locator program (Clayton Coleman)
4. The Chosen!!! (Clint Bradford)
5. Re: Rocket Man (Clint Bradford)
6. Re: Rocket Man (Clint Bradford)
7. Amazon Smile (Gus)
8. Re: Amazon Smile (Clint Bradford)
9. Re: Amazon Smile (Paul Stoetzer)
10. Re: Amazon Smile (Paul Stoetzer)
11. Re: JUNK (Bryce Salmi)
12. Field Day 2014 (Bruce)
13. Re: Amazon Smile (Gus)
14. Malaysian airplane mystery (Anthony Japha)
15. Re: Amazon Smile (Glenn AA5PK)
16. Re: grid locator program (R.T.Liddy)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:03:23 -0400
From: "Bill Bordy, NJ1H " <nj1h@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: grid locator program
Message-ID: <5328987B.3070207@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Not MAC or PC but Android GPS application for free on Play Store,
HamGPS, will give you Lat/Lon and Grid automatically.
73,
Bill
NJ1H
On 3/18/2014 2:33 PM, george hinkle wrote:
> I'm planning a trip this spring and plan on working some of the hard grids
west of me. I'm in EM59.
> I'm looking for a program that I can figure the grids both ways. Type in
my longitude and latitude and get the grid. Type in the grid and know the
longitude and latitude of that grid. If anyone knows of a program it sure
would help me. I have a Mac or PC would prefer using the Mac.
> george wi9i
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:41:01 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: grid locator program
Message-ID: <C6BBA72C25064DF99F56CC24FAE2FA96@xxxxxx>
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For the PC, try Wingrid:
http://keplerian.com/
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Bill Bordy, NJ1H
<Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:03 PM
<To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
<Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: grid locator program
<
<Not MAC or PC but Android GPS application for free on Play Store,
<HamGPS, will give you Lat/Lon and Grid automatically.
<
<73,
<Bill
<NJ1H
<
<On 3/18/2014 2:33 PM, george hinkle wrote:
<> I'm planning a trip this spring and plan on working some of
<the hard grids west of me. I'm in EM59.
<> I'm looking for a program that I can figure the grids both
<ways. Type in my longitude and latitude and get the grid. Type
<in the grid and know the longitude and latitude of that grid.
<If anyone knows of a program it sure would help me. I have a
<Mac or PC would prefer using the Mac.
<> george wi9i
<> _______________________________________________
<> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of
<the author.
<> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
<satellite program!
<> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<>
<
<_______________________________________________
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<the author.
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<satellite program!
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:54:45 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: george hinkle <gwhink41@xxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: grid locator program
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George,
I typically rely on a single website when planning my rover adventures:
http://qthlocator.free.fr/index.php
Originally F6FVY put it together but it was later updated F5UKW. You
can enter your home six digit grid and then work you way down to the
areas you will be visiting. It utilizes the Google API which means
you can look at map or satellite views.
On my phone (Android) I utilize an application called LocatorDROID to
tell me my 6 digit grid plus heading and distance to other grids.
The QRZ.com GridMapper (www.qrz.com/gridmapper) will convert LAT/LON
to grid but I still prefer the QTHLocator site referenced above.
73
Clayton
W5PFG
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:33 PM, george hinkle <gwhink41@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> I'm planning a trip this spring and plan on working some of the hard grids
west of me. I'm in EM59.
> I'm looking for a program that I can figure the grids both ways. Type in
my longitude and latitude and get the grid. Type in the grid and know the
longitude and latitude of that grid. If anyone knows of a program it sure
would help me. I have a Mac or PC would prefer using the Mac.
> george wi9i
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:59:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] The Chosen!!!
Message-ID: <df81c605-112d-459a-9cd1-749c2834002b@xx.xxx>
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OH MY GAWD - I was just chosen to attend this event!?Meeting and rubbing
shoulders with Astronaut Luca Parmitano for an afternoon in April ...
That's the GOOD news.
The BAD news?
The meeting is at the European Space Agency site in Rome, Italy.?
'Cuse me while I check out Travelocity for air fares ...
Clint
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:08:33 +0000 (GMT)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Rocket Man
Message-ID: <e3cc0a46-031f-4c43-b0fd-166870abefc5@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Damon, just how much do you donate to AMSAT-NA annually? And how much?
is dedicated to them in your will?
I just need to know if I should continue to participate in a fun,
space-related thread?
where we are discussing the history of music and the history of space
exploration?
and music playlists for amateur radio-related events - or if my posts might
negatively?
affect the financial health and well-being of any AMSAT chapter.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
AMSAT-NA member, benefactor / AMSAT-UK, member
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:08:33 +0000 (GMT)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Rocket Man
Message-ID: <71ce90d2-42d8-430d-b222-283ddc0a3d11@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Damon, just how much do you donate to AMSAT-NA annually? And how much?
is dedicated to them in your will?
I just need to know if I should continue to participate in a fun,
space-related thread?
where we are discussing the history of music and the history of space
exploration?
and music playlists for amateur radio-related events - or if my posts might
negatively?
affect the financial health and well-being of any AMSAT chapter.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
AMSAT-NA member, benefactor / AMSAT-UK, member
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:14:07 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amazon Smile
Message-ID: <5328A90F.8000406@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
God above, who thinks these names up?
Anyway, Amazon Smile, with AMSAT as the recipient. It'll probably only
result in a buck or two coming your way, but if enough people sign up,
you might get $50, which apparently is all it costs to build a hamsat!
--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:21:51 +0000 (GMT)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amazon Smile
Message-ID: <22ee8739-420c-4a96-be03-1d0e10f3fdab@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I am a Prime member, and also a merchant on Amazon, and did not know about
this program!?
I donate a portion of eBay proceeds ... but THANK YOU for the heads up on
Amazon Smile!
I just entered "AMSAT" (without the quotation marks) and it found AMSAT-NA ...
=====================================================
Amazon will donate 0.5% of your AmazonSmile?
purchase price. We will?reach out to?RADIO?
AMATEUR SATELLITE CORPORATION?to ensure it?
is ready to accept donations from Amazon.
=======================================
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:25:56 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amazon Smile
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOrKskHPVNwcE_yJm6k-9fia84pukJezhjU7rgqFRP4L8g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Wow. I had never heard of that before.
Living in the city with no car, I'm a frequent Amazon shopper. Already
signed up and selected AMSAT.
Might net them a couple of bucks a year from me, but that's better than zero.
73.
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> God above, who thinks these names up?
>
> Anyway, Amazon Smile, with AMSAT as the recipient. It'll probably only
> result in a buck or two coming your way, but if enough people sign up, you
> might get $50, which apparently is all it costs to build a hamsat!
>
> --
> Gus 8P6SM
> The Easternmost Isle
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:30:58 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amazon Smile
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOp3kM4smTZLErzX45MwPQTBCwCoQMQAofPDFsUuR77n_g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
By the way, you do have to use the URL smile.amazon.com when shopping
or else your purchase won't count. Amazon doesn't log you into Amazon
Smile automatically.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Wow. I had never heard of that before.
>
> Living in the city with no car, I'm a frequent Amazon shopper. Already
> signed up and selected AMSAT.
>
> Might net them a couple of bucks a year from me, but that's better than
zero.
>
> 73.
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> God above, who thinks these names up?
>>
>> Anyway, Amazon Smile, with AMSAT as the recipient. It'll probably only
>> result in a buck or two coming your way, but if enough people sign up, you
>> might get $50, which apparently is all it costs to build a hamsat!
>>
>> --
>> Gus 8P6SM
>> The Easternmost Isle
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:44:30 -0700
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUNK
Message-ID:
<CAN5j0spvn_UqaUP_oWaNydtGBMcnpUc=HWV1ibrsSHyFcygbvA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Something tells me a while back it was made explicitly clear that the
AMSAT-BB did not reflect the views and agenda of AMSAT-NA. Something to
keep in mind.
Bryce
KB1LQC
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 06:49:37PM +0000, wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> > I thought this BB was for making satellite contacts on ham birds, I see
> everything but that on here.
> > Come on guys lets work the birds and make grid trips and things like
> that , Leave the spam off.
> > Support AMSAT NA not cube sats that we cant work
>
> I find it hard to support an organisation whose primary role seems to be
> to give a platform to grumpy old men to drivel on and on and on endlessly
> about how "things ain't what they used to be".
>
> Cubesats are the future of amateur satellite work. If you don't like
> that, try and find a source of cheap flights for something OSCAR-40 sized.
> Can you afford it? I sure as hell can't.
>
> Your only hope of getting an AO-40 size bird up is one of the "up and
> coming" space programmes, like Iran or Pakistan. You've missed the boat
> with India already.
>
> --
> Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:45:31 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day 2014
Message-ID: <5328B06B.30403@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Field Day 2014 is right around the corner. If you would like to pick up
your copy of the AMSAT Field Day rules, they are now available at
http://www.amsat.org
click on the Event drop down and select Field Day 2014 (file is a PDF)
You can also get a copy of the rules in PDF or DOCX formats from my website
http://amsatnet.com/2014fd.docx
http://amsatnet.com/2014fd.pdf
73...bruce
--
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AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
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AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:56:30 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amazon Smile
Message-ID: <5328B2FE.8010700@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Yes, but I keep an Amazon tab open in my browser at all times, and I've
changed that to smile. instead of www. so all links followed from there
will be smiley. Also, bookmarks have been altered to suit.
It only remains to be seen what percentage of items are smiley.
Encouraging to discover that of nearly 100 items in my wishlist, in a
broad range of categories, the vast majority were smiley. (Only 4 items
were not.) Smiley items include Amazon Prime items as well as items
shipped from and sold by non-Amazon vendors.
On 03/18/2014 04:30 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> By the way, you do have to use the URL smile.amazon.com when shopping
> or else your purchase won't count. Amazon doesn't log you into Amazon
> Smile automatically.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Wow. I had never heard of that before.
>>
>> Living in the city with no car, I'm a frequent Amazon shopper. Already
>> signed up and selected AMSAT.
>>
>> Might net them a couple of bucks a year from me, but that's better than
zero.
>>
>> 73.
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> God above, who thinks these names up?
>>>
>>> Anyway, Amazon Smile, with AMSAT as the recipient. It'll probably only
>>> result in a buck or two coming your way, but if enough people sign up, you
>>> might get $50, which apparently is all it costs to build a hamsat!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gus 8P6SM
>>> The Easternmost Isle
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:07:45 -0400
From: "Anthony Japha" <ajapha@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Malaysian airplane mystery
Message-ID: <D03EDC39BB8441ABA7DB6DD231CB7414@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Thanks much for all the thoughtful comments.
The fact that the sat pings the plane is very revealing because it means
that the timing of the return transmission from the plane does not have to
be independently timed. That makes the calculation of distance more credible.
Let?s hope that one day we?ll have a bird up that high, i.e. 22,000 mi.
73,
Tony, N2UN
LM 183
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:51:19 -0500
From: "Glenn AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amazon Smile
Message-ID: <EE3093D693E0413B893C896ACE51F7A0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
I just signed up also.
73 de Glenn AA5PK
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stoetzer
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:25 PM
To: Gus
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amazon Smile
Wow. I had never heard of that before.
Living in the city with no car, I'm a frequent Amazon shopper. Already
signed up and selected AMSAT.
Might net them a couple of bucks a year from me, but that's better than zero.
73.
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> God above, who thinks these names up?
>
> Anyway, Amazon Smile, with AMSAT as the recipient. It'll probably only
> result in a buck or two coming your way, but if enough people sign up, you
> might get $50, which apparently is all it costs to build a hamsat!
>
> --
> Gus 8P6SM
> The Easternmost Isle
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:50:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat - BBs <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: grid locator program
Message-ID:
<1395186636.39069.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
George,
Check this one out. It gives you a map of a selected Grid Square
or the Grid of a Callsign or the Grid of an Address. Really cool!!
http://www.levinecentral.com/ham/grid_square.php
GL/73, ? ? Bob K8BL
________________________________
From: george hinkle <gwhink41@xxx.xxx>
To: Amsat - BBs <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] grid locator program
I'm planning a trip this spring and plan on working some of the hard grids
west of me. I'm in EM59.
I'm looking for a program that I can figure the grids both ways. Type in my
longitude and latitude and get the grid. Type in the grid and know the
longitude and latitude of that grid. If anyone knows of a program it sure
would help me. I have a Mac or PC would prefer using the Mac.
george wi9i
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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