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Today's Topics:
1. Promoting the Satellites (Clint Bradford)
2. Re: Promoting the Satellites (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
3. Re: Promoting the Satellites (Clint Bradford)
4. Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net (Roger Kolakowski)
5. Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net (Anthony Monteiro)
6. Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net (Michael)
7. Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net (Angelo Glorioso)
8. FOX-2 Information (was: "Flying repeater" inquiry)
(Clayton Coleman)
9. Re: FOX-2 Information (was: "Flying repeater" inquiry)
(Bryce Salmi)
10. Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net (Anthony Monteiro)
11. Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net (Kevin Elliott)
12. Re: FOX-2 Information (was: "Flying repeater" inquiry)
(Bryce Salmi)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:03:17 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Promoting the Satellites
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>> ... At the same time I get tired of your constant grandiose self
promotion ...
A couple "negative" folks here are displaying a very common health
problem.
They are afflicted with what is commonly referred to as "small
beam syndrome." They are suffering, obviously, by the anxiety caused by
thinking that their handheld beams are too small.
Small-beam syndrome sufferers have hope, though. Urologists Kevan
R. Wylie of Royal Hallemshire Hospital and Ian Eardley of St. James
Hospital in Leeds, England, review the literature on this syndrome in a
recent issue of the urology journal, BJU International. They urge Web
site owners and educators not to laugh away these very real worries
over an imaginary defect.
"It is very common for men to worry about the size of their beams,"
Wylie says in a news release. "It is important that these concerns aren't
dismissed as this can heighten concerns and anxieties."
For more information - and help - I offer this valuable online resource:
http://www.baus.org.uk/
So excuse me, but I have work to do. I am preparing another presentation
that will be given to a club on the East Coast - as I surpass 80 such talks
on the satellites. And I am preparing another satellite article for
publication
in a national magazine. And I have to reply to another email request for a
presentation ...
Oh, that loud, hysterical laughter you just heard from afar just now? I
happened to be on the phone with my accountant, and I told her that I was
being accused of "grandiose self-promotion," and knowing my expenses
versus income for performing the educational activities that I do, she nearly
fell off her chair ...
And so it goes ...
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:38:44 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Promoting the Satellites
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Here we go again...I, Me, My.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid RAZR
On Feb 14, 2014 3:11 PM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> >> ... At the same time I get tired of your constant grandiose self
> promotion ...
>
> A couple "negative" folks here are displaying a very common health
> problem.
>
> They are afflicted with what is commonly referred to as "small
> beam syndrome." They are suffering, obviously, by the anxiety caused by
> thinking that their handheld beams are too small.
>
> Small-beam syndrome sufferers have hope, though. Urologists Kevan
> R. Wylie of Royal Hallemshire Hospital and Ian Eardley of St. James
> Hospital in Leeds, England, review the literature on this syndrome in a
> recent issue of the urology journal, BJU International. They urge Web
> site owners and educators not to laugh away these very real worries
> over an imaginary defect.
>
> "It is very common for men to worry about the size of their beams,"
> Wylie says in a news release. "It is important that these concerns aren't
> dismissed as this can heighten concerns and anxieties."
>
> For more information - and help - I offer this valuable online resource:
>
> http://www.baus.org.uk/
>
> So excuse me, but I have work to do. I am preparing another presentation
> that will be given to a club on the East Coast - as I surpass 80 such talks
> on the satellites. And I am preparing another satellite article for
> publication
> in a national magazine. And I have to reply to another email request for a
> presentation ...
>
> Oh, that loud, hysterical laughter you just heard from afar just now? I
> happened to be on the phone with my accountant, and I told her that I was
> being accused of "grandiose self-promotion," and knowing my expenses
> versus income for performing the educational activities that I do, she
> nearly
> fell off her chair ...
>
> And so it goes ...
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:41:07 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Promoting the Satellites
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>> ... Here we go again...I, Me, My.
Obviously a sufferer of the aforementioned condition, and in denial ...
Clint Bradford
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:45:55 -0500
From: Roger Kolakowski <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net
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For all the dissenters...
What have you done to promote AMSAT and how many people outside of nthe
satellite hobby have you affected?
I consider the reports of "missionaries" to be a promotion of ideas on
how to spread the word.
If 60,000 doesn't impress ask one of the "missionary's" how you can link
to their presentation either via RF or internet and find you own 60,000
followers.
Roger
WA1KAT
On 2/14/2014 12:44 PM, Michael wrote:
> Wow a whole 60,000? So how many of the rest of us couldn't hear it? I
> honestly think it's great what you do for the satellite hobby Clint.
> At least for the part of it that likes to user HT's and handheld
> antennas exchanging grid squares on flying repeaters. At the same time
> I get tired of your constant grandiose self promotion. Your E-mail to
> the BB did little more than tout how "great" you are to everybody. It
> also had the unintended consequence ( by you) of someone calling you
> on your BS. Here's an idea, how about keeping on doing what you're
> doing for your segment of interest in the hobby and let the accolades
> fall where they may instead of constantly patting yourself on the
> back. That would be a refreshing change.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
> On 2/12/2014 9:30 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>> ... I guess but it's pretty meaningless for
>> those of us in the rest of the country.
>>
>> About 60,000 licensed hams were within earshot in
>> this region - I am not going to ignore such an
>> "open mic" opportunity to "spread the word" on
>> the birds.
>>
>> Clint K6LCS
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>> http://www.clintbradford.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:04:12 -0500
From: Anthony Monteiro <aa2tx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Roger Kolakowski <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net
Message-ID: <52FE84CC.10205@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Dear Friends,
Please use the BB to discuss satellites.
Any other communications should take
place off of the BB.
Thank you!
Tony AA2TX
---
On 2/14/2014 3:45 PM, Roger Kolakowski wrote:
> For all the dissenters...
>
> What have you done to promote AMSAT and how many people outside of nthe
> satellite hobby have you affected?
>
> I consider the reports of "missionaries" to be a promotion of ideas on
> how to spread the word.
>
> If 60,000 doesn't impress ask one of the "missionary's" how you can link
> to their presentation either via RF or internet and find you own 60,000
> followers.
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
>
> On 2/14/2014 12:44 PM, Michael wrote:
>> Wow a whole 60,000? So how many of the rest of us couldn't hear it? I
>> honestly think it's great what you do for the satellite hobby Clint.
>> At least for the part of it that likes to user HT's and handheld
>> antennas exchanging grid squares on flying repeaters. At the same time
>> I get tired of your constant grandiose self promotion. Your E-mail to
>> the BB did little more than tout how "great" you are to everybody. It
>> also had the unintended consequence ( by you) of someone calling you
>> on your BS. Here's an idea, how about keeping on doing what you're
>> doing for your segment of interest in the hobby and let the accolades
>> fall where they may instead of constantly patting yourself on the
>> back. That would be a refreshing change.
>> 73,
>> Michael, W4HIJ
>> On 2/12/2014 9:30 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>>> ... I guess but it's pretty meaningless for
>>> those of us in the rest of the country.
>>>
>>> About 60,000 licensed hams were within earshot in
>>> this region - I am not going to ignore such an
>>> "open mic" opportunity to "spread the word" on
>>> the birds.
>>>
>>> Clint K6LCS
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>>> http://www.clintbradford.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:57:51 -0500
From: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net
Message-ID: <52FE915F.1010002@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
OK then, I have a legitimate satellite question. Is Fox 2 going to be a
linear bird? See, I have some confusion on this. I could swear I read
somewhere that it was yet another flying repeater just like Fox 1 is but
then someone here told me I was mistaken. Since you're here Tony, I
thought I'd ask you since I'm pretty sure you can give me a definitive
answer. I mean after all, since we are talking about " Tech" as in
technology, I'd be interested to know if there is going to be any
technical challenge to working Fox 2 or if it will just be yet another
ones of Clint's Easysats. Unlike some folks such as Clint, I don't
delight in how "easy" it is to work a satellite and actually enjoy a
challenge like I had when I first got into this part of the hobby and
put my station together using the homebrew SAEBRTrack tracking system I
built along with the OR-360 rotators that you told me where to find back
then. Thank you btw.... I mean if people enjoy working "easysats" with
an HT and a handheld antenna, that's all well and good. To each their
own. It's just that I'd like a bit more of a challenge than that.
Unfortunately I missed out on A0-40 which I understand took a fair
amount of "tech" savvy to conquer. AO-7 and FO-29 were fun mixed with a
bit of challenge though and even AO-51 was pretty cool trying to conquer
the S band mode. I'd very much like to start putting my old homebrew
antennas and rotators back in the air if I feel like it will result in
some challenge and a sense of accomplishment and knowing that I did
something that "not just anyone can do" instead of "heck it's just so
easy" as Clint likes to point out..... If Fox 2 is a linear bird, I'll
even put my money where my mouth is and renew my long dormant
membership in AMSAT because I will feel that they are moving in a
direction that I and many others have interest in. If it's just another
flying repeater though well..... YAWN....I'm getting sleepy now.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 2/14/2014 4:04 PM, Anthony Monteiro wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> Please use the BB to discuss satellites.
>
> Any other communications should take
> place off of the BB.
>
> Thank you!
> Tony AA2TX
> ---
>
> On 2/14/2014 3:45 PM, Roger Kolakowski wrote:
>> For all the dissenters...
>>
>> What have you done to promote AMSAT and how many people outside of nthe
>> satellite hobby have you affected?
>>
>> I consider the reports of "missionaries" to be a promotion of ideas on
>> how to spread the word.
>>
>> If 60,000 doesn't impress ask one of the "missionary's" how you can link
>> to their presentation either via RF or internet and find you own 60,000
>> followers.
>>
>> Roger
>> WA1KAT
>>
>>
>> On 2/14/2014 12:44 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> Wow a whole 60,000? So how many of the rest of us couldn't hear it? I
>>> honestly think it's great what you do for the satellite hobby Clint.
>>> At least for the part of it that likes to user HT's and handheld
>>> antennas exchanging grid squares on flying repeaters. At the same time
>>> I get tired of your constant grandiose self promotion. Your E-mail to
>>> the BB did little more than tout how "great" you are to everybody. It
>>> also had the unintended consequence ( by you) of someone calling you
>>> on your BS. Here's an idea, how about keeping on doing what you're
>>> doing for your segment of interest in the hobby and let the accolades
>>> fall where they may instead of constantly patting yourself on the
>>> back. That would be a refreshing change.
>>> 73,
>>> Michael, W4HIJ
>>> On 2/12/2014 9:30 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>>>> ... I guess but it's pretty meaningless for
>>>> those of us in the rest of the country.
>>>>
>>>> About 60,000 licensed hams were within earshot in
>>>> this region - I am not going to ignore such an
>>>> "open mic" opportunity to "spread the word" on
>>>> the birds.
>>>>
>>>> Clint K6LCS
>>>>
>>>>
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:59:06 -0600
From: Angelo Glorioso <n5uxt@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Anthony Monteiro <aa2tx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Roger Kolakowski
<Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS20046110A8D62DD8835C125ED9C0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Amen!!!!!!!
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Anthony Monteiro <aa2tx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Dear Friends,
Please use the BB to discuss satellites.
Any other communications should take
place off of the BB.
Thank you!
Tony AA2TX
---
On 2/14/2014 3:45 PM, Roger Kolakowski wrote:
> For all the dissenters...
>
> What have you done to promote AMSAT and how many people outside of nthe
> satellite hobby have you affected?
>
> I consider the reports of "missionaries" to be a promotion of ideas on
> how to spread the word.
>
> If 60,000 doesn't impress ask one of the "missionary's" how you can link
> to their presentation either via RF or internet and find you own 60,000
> followers.
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
>
> On 2/14/2014 12:44 PM, Michael wrote:
>> Wow a whole 60,000? So how many of the rest of us couldn't hear it? I
>> honestly think it's great what you do for the satellite hobby Clint.
>> At least for the part of it that likes to user HT's and handheld
>> antennas exchanging grid squares on flying repeaters. At the same time
>> I get tired of your constant grandiose self promotion. Your E-mail to
>> the BB did little more than tout how "great" you are to everybody. It
>> also had the unintended consequence ( by you) of someone calling you
>> on your BS. Here's an idea, how about keeping on doing what you're
>> doing for your segment of interest in the hobby and let the accolades
>> fall where they may instead of constantly patting yourself on the
>> back. That would be a refreshing change.
>> 73,
>> Michael, W4HIJ
>> On 2/12/2014 9:30 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>>> ... I guess but it's pretty meaningless for
>>> those of us in the rest of the country.
>>>
>>> About 60,000 licensed hams were within earshot in
>>> this region - I am not going to ignore such an
>>> "open mic" opportunity to "spread the word" on
>>> the birds.
>>>
>>> Clint K6LCS
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>>> http://www.clintbradford.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:25:10 -0600
From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX-2 Information (was: "Flying repeater" inquiry)
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Hi Michael
You're in luck. The Phase 2 Fox series are based on the SDX transponder as
tested on ARISSat-1 and not your favorite "flying repeaters."
Learn more by visiting the "Meet the Fox Project" page at:
http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1113
Welcome aboard. You can join AMSAT and renew via the web store or by
calling the office.
See http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ and click on "Membership" for several
options.
73
Clayton
W5PFG
On Feb 14, 2014 4:04 PM, "Michael" <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> If Fox 2 is a linear bird, I'll even put my money where my mouth is and
> renew my long dormant membership in AMSAT because I will feel that they
> are moving in a direction that I and many others have interest in. If it's
> just another flying repeater though well..... YAWN....I'm getting sleepy
> now.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:44:10 -0800
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FOX-2 Information (was: "Flying repeater"
inquiry)
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
You can already find out more about the prototype maximum power point
tracker that will be used to power the software defined transponder on
Fox-2!
http://edge.rit.edu/edge/P13271/public/Home
Bryce
KB1LQC
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> Hi Michael
>
> You're in luck. The Phase 2 Fox series are based on the SDX transponder as
> tested on ARISSat-1 and not your favorite "flying repeaters."
>
> Learn more by visiting the "Meet the Fox Project" page at:
> http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1113
>
> Welcome aboard. You can join AMSAT and renew via the web store or by
> calling the office.
>
> See http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ and click on "Membership" for several
> options.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
> On Feb 14, 2014 4:04 PM, "Michael" <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > If Fox 2 is a linear bird, I'll even put my money where my mouth is and
> > renew my long dormant membership in AMSAT because I will feel that they
> > are moving in a direction that I and many others have interest in. If
> it's
> > just another flying repeater though well..... YAWN....I'm getting sleepy
> > now.
> > 73,
> > Michael, W4HIJ
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 18:53:40 -0500
From: Anthony Monteiro <aa2tx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net
Message-ID: <52FEAC84.8000304@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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On 2/14/2014 4:57 PM, Michael wrote:
> OK then, I have a legitimate satellite question. Is Fox 2 going to be a
> linear bird? See, I have some confusion on this....
Hi Michael,
Good question. I think I can clear this up.
The main point of Fox-2 is to develop and fly an
advanced, software defined transponder (SDX.)
An SDX can be programmed to be any kind of
transponder. It will be a linear, inverting,
mode-J transponder by default.
We would also like to try some new and
interesting digital modes perhaps including
digital voice which would be my personal favorite.
That is the tremendous flexibility you get with
an SDX. You can change the transponder in software.
ARISSat-1 was our first attempt at an SDX and it
worked very well. It could only be programmed on
the ground though. The SDX for Fox-2 will
be programmable in orbit.
Fox-2 will be a 3U CubeSat (3x the size of Fox-1)
providing a lot more power and space for the
electronics.
The source of confusion may be because we are
building four Fox-1 flight units. The idea is
to have them available and ready to fly so
we can easily team up with universities that want
to fly science missions and get free launches.
Building them all at once is also a much cheaper
way to build satellites.
All four Fox-1 units will have the same hardware
and avionics. The universities will supply their
experiment cards and the software can be customized
for each satellite as needed.
Once the Fox-1 flight models are built, the engineering
team can begin working on Fox-2. That should start
this year.
The status of the Fox-1 satellites is as follows:
Fox-1 (Fox-1A) is scheduled to fly on NROL-55.
RadFxSat (Fox-1B) is a joint project with Vanderbilt
University. It has already been accepted into the
NASA ELaNa program but it has not been assigned a
launch yet.
Fox-1C and Fox-1D are not currently assingned.
OK?
Best satellite DX and 73,
Tony AA2TX
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:55:15 -0800
From: Kevin Elliott <kevin@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another Great Tech Tuesday Net
Message-ID: <08EFE9FF-FDB4-46E7-9BF0-EF110BF440F9@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Perhaps that was a legitimate question hiding in there, but I read most of
that as cheap shots at Clint. Will you please let it rest? You don?t have to
like him, but I?d appreciate some positivity.
Like you, I want to do satellite tracking hardware and not just point HTs at
the birds and do manual doppler correction. But, there?s a very, very useful
place for the newbie stuff that seems useless to you. Everyone benefits when
the hobby grows, and overwhelming new people to the hobby with excessively
technical projects can serve to scare them off. When more people join the
hobby, more products are made, more competition between hardware
manufacturers occurs, and the costs go down for all of us! That alone should
be incentive for everyone to bring the newbies in.
So, I?m not suggesting that anyone needs to lighten the technical offerings,
or make anything more simple. But, I do think that anyone offering
marketable material that attracts newbies, regardless of how simple it may
be, should be welcome.
We have to remember that there are people of all skill levels in this world,
and not all of them are able to grasp things immediately. Sometimes, adding
a lot of complexity isn?t fun for people looking for a little instant
gratification. And it?s that fun that powers the interest in the hobby and
creates a lifelong connection to it. So let?s avoid bashing anyone who likes
?easysats? or anyone who wants to help others with them, OK?
Kevin
On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> OK then, I have a legitimate satellite question. Is Fox 2 going to be a
linear bird? See, I have some confusion on this. I could swear I read
somewhere that it was yet another flying repeater just like Fox 1 is but
then someone here told me I was mistaken. Since you're here Tony, I thought
I'd ask you since I'm pretty sure you can give me a definitive answer. I
mean after all, since we are talking about " Tech" as in technology, I'd be
interested to know if there is going to be any technical challenge to
working Fox 2 or if it will just be yet another ones of Clint's Easysats.
Unlike some folks such as Clint, I don't delight in how "easy" it is to work
a satellite and actually enjoy a challenge like I had when I first got into
this part of the hobby and put my station together using the homebrew
SAEBRTrack tracking system I built along with the OR-360 rotators that you
told me where to find back then. Thank you btw.... I mean if people enjoy
working "easysats" with !
an HT and a handheld antenna, that's all well and good. To each their own.
It's just that I'd like a bit more of a challenge than that. Unfortunately
I missed out on A0-40 which I understand took a fair amount of "tech" savvy
to conquer. AO-7 and FO-29 were fun mixed with a bit of challenge though and
even AO-51 was pretty cool trying to conquer the S band mode. I'd very
much like to start putting my old homebrew antennas and rotators back in the
air if I feel like it will result in some challenge and a sense of
accomplishment and knowing that I did something that "not just anyone can
do" instead of "heck it's just so easy" as Clint likes to point out..... If
Fox 2 is a linear bird, I'll even put my money where my mouth is and renew
my long dormant membership in AMSAT because I will feel that they are
moving in a direction that I and many others have interest in. If it's just
another flying repeater though well..... YAWN....I'm getting sleepy now.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
> On 2/14/2014 4:04 PM, Anthony Monteiro wrote:
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> Please use the BB to discuss satellites.
>>
>> Any other communications should take
>> place off of the BB.
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Tony AA2TX
>> ---
>>
>> On 2/14/2014 3:45 PM, Roger Kolakowski wrote:
>>> For all the dissenters...
>>>
>>> What have you done to promote AMSAT and how many people outside of nthe
>>> satellite hobby have you affected?
>>>
>>> I consider the reports of "missionaries" to be a promotion of ideas on
>>> how to spread the word.
>>>
>>> If 60,000 doesn't impress ask one of the "missionary's" how you can link
>>> to their presentation either via RF or internet and find you own 60,000
>>> followers.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>> WA1KAT
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/14/2014 12:44 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>> Wow a whole 60,000? So how many of the rest of us couldn't hear it? I
>>>> honestly think it's great what you do for the satellite hobby Clint.
>>>> At least for the part of it that likes to user HT's and handheld
>>>> antennas exchanging grid squares on flying repeaters. At the same time
>>>> I get tired of your constant grandiose self promotion. Your E-mail to
>>>> the BB did little more than tout how "great" you are to everybody. It
>>>> also had the unintended consequence ( by you) of someone calling you
>>>> on your BS. Here's an idea, how about keeping on doing what you're
>>>> doing for your segment of interest in the hobby and let the accolades
>>>> fall where they may instead of constantly patting yourself on the
>>>> back. That would be a refreshing change.
>>>> 73,
>>>> Michael, W4HIJ
>>>> On 2/12/2014 9:30 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>>>>> ... I guess but it's pretty meaningless for
>>>>> those of us in the rest of the country.
>>>>>
>>>>> About 60,000 licensed hams were within earshot in
>>>>> this region - I am not going to ignore such an
>>>>> "open mic" opportunity to "spread the word" on
>>>>> the birds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clint K6LCS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:00:21 -0800
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FOX-2 Information (was: "Flying repeater"
inquiry)
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To expand upon the flying repeater email.
"I'd be interested to know if there is going to be any technical challenge
to working Fox 2 or if it will just be yet another ones of Clint's
Easysats."
Now, the actual important comment in this sentence is the reference that
Fox-1 being an FM bird is assumed to be easy to build. Strictly and
professionally speaking this is a huge understatement of the technical
challenges of any satellite. I'll assume you do not work in the the
aerospace industry or have volunteering to build one of the AMSAT
satellites (more than welcome to give it a shot!). Even an easysat is
incredibly hard to build. Beyond the actual transmission mode the satellite
must maintain a healthy power budget, provide telemetry to monitor the
status of the satellite, be implemented in a 95mmx95mmx95mm space (inside
the cube), survive the 5 year mission's expected 30krad dose of radiation,
and survive 16 sunrises/sunsets per day in the vacuum of space (have heat?
can't use convection to get rid it!). Just to name a few items...
To put the sunrise/sunset into perspective (think of the road and other
objects you see cracking due to expansion and contraction) MIL-STD-1540
which is a good idea to follow and the associated specifications usually
require a spacecraft to be designed to survive -34C to +71C temperature
extremes. Try operating a consumer product in that environment and it will
fail pretty quickly.
Also, from an extremely high-level point of view, the only difference
between Fox-1 and Fox-2 will be the FM repeater being changed to the
Software Defined Transponder (SDX). The SDX is a bit more power hungry so
it requires an upgraded Maximum Power Point Tracker and more solar cells to
produce the needed power. Otherwise, Fox-2 and Fox-1 will share a lot of
the same technology. This is good because we don't want to re-invent the
wheel. Therefore I respectively reject the idea that just because Fox-1 is
an FM bird it is not technically challenging to design and build.
Bryce
KB1LQC
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> You can already find out more about the prototype maximum power point
> tracker that will be used to power the software defined transponder on
> Fox-2!
>
> http://edge.rit.edu/edge/P13271/public/Home
>
> Bryce
> KB1LQC
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Clayton Coleman
<kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael
>>
>> You're in luck. The Phase 2 Fox series are based on the SDX transponder
>> as
>> tested on ARISSat-1 and not your favorite "flying repeaters."
>>
>> Learn more by visiting the "Meet the Fox Project" page at:
>> http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1113
>>
>> Welcome aboard. You can join AMSAT and renew via the web store or by
>> calling the office.
>>
>> See http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ and click on "Membership" for several
>> options.
>>
>> 73
>> Clayton
>> W5PFG
>> On Feb 14, 2014 4:04 PM, "Michael" <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> > If Fox 2 is a linear bird, I'll even put my money where my mouth is and
>> > renew my long dormant membership in AMSAT because I will feel that they
>> > are moving in a direction that I and many others have interest in. If
>> it's
>> > just another flying repeater though well..... YAWN....I'm getting sleepy
>> > now.
>> > 73,
>> > Michael, W4HIJ
>> >
>> >
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