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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 145 MHz signal blocking 435 MHz downlink (Paul Stoetzer)
2. Re: status/rant (Gus)
3. Re: G5400B calibration problems (Joe Leikhim)
4. Re: Suggestions for "I want a HEO" (Lizeth Norman)
5. Re: status (R Oler)
6. ISS Packet RTL SDR / USRP (Andrew Rich)
7. Orbitron Question (Andrew Rich)
8. Re: Orbitron Question (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS])
9. Re: Orbitron Question (Andrew Rich)
10. Re: Orbitron Question (Andrew Rich)
11. ITAR Fun (Bryce Salmi)
12. TLE distiller / generator (Lizeth Norman)
13. Re: Orbitron Question (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS])
14. Re: Ancient History (Joe)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:47:15 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 145 MHz signal blocking 435 MHz downlink
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I have experienced some desense on the past two passes of FO-29, so
after this pass, I checked all the connectors in my system.
Turns out one of the elements of my Elk antenna was very slightly
loose. Tightened it up and I don't hear any hash at all on my 435 MHz
receive.
It doesn't take much to throw everything out of whack!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Art,
>
> Yep, corrosion is a great source for harmonics. I had a similar problem
> with AO-40, only mine turned out to be the relay contacts on the 70cm
> antenna's RHCP / LHCP relay. Cycle them a few times and things quieted
> down. But I only heard the problem when I was aimed at the big oak tree
> behind our house, which was odd because the 70cm transmit antenna was
> literally a few inches away from the edge of the 2.4 ghz receive dish.
> Never heard of a tree acting as a diode before. Maybe the squirrels were up
> to something...
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
>
>
> kc6uqh@xxx.xxx wrote:
>>
>> Greg,
>> I had a problem with 70cm jamming 2401 down link many years ago. The
>> problem
>> turned out to be corrosion between the coax connector shell and the
>> aluminum
>> antenna element. Cleaning up the connection solved the problem. The
>> corrosion acts like a diode and will make enough 3 order products to trash
>> any receiver. Use liquid electrical tape or non-corrosive (doesn't smell
>> like vinegar) silicon seal to keep these connections dry and clean.
>> Art, KC6UQH
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
>> Behalf Of g0mrf@xxx.xxx
>> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 1:23 AM
>> To: ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxxx kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxxx w4tas@xxx.xxxx
>> amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 145 MHz signal blocking 435 MHz downlink
>>
>>
>> Hi Greg.
>>
>> Most decent VHF transmitters will already have a pretty good LPF on the
>> output to reduce the harmonics.
>> However, receivers these days tend to be DC-Daylight, so frequently need
>> a
>> filter to prevent 'blocking' by unwanted high level signals. In that case
>> preventing the VHF coming into the UHF receiver can be important
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
>> To: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>; w4tas <w4tas@xxx.xxx>; 'AMSAT
>> Mailing
>> List' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 3:47
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 145 MHz signal blocking 435 MHz downlink
>>
>>
>> I know this has been answered before, but I forget. Given one Diplexer,
>> is
>> it better to put it on the Tx side to limit the 3rd harmionic going out,
>> or
>> better on the Rx side to limit the VHF fundamental coming in?
>> Tony's diagram shows the later; I would have thought the former would be
>> more effective (hitting the problem at its source).
>>
>> Greg KO6TH
>>
>>
>> Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep, been using one of those for years!
>>>
>>> I have a Sinclair Labs unit that provides 100dB rejection outside of
>>> the 2 Meter band.
>>>
>>> Jim KQ6EA
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/19/2014 07:32 PM, w4tas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would also suggest a low pass filter on the two meter transmitter.
>>>> A diplexer will work well for this also.
>>>> This will reduce the third harmonic which is causing your problem.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Jerzycke
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:09 PM
>>>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 145 MHz signal blocking 435 MHz downlink
>>>>
>>>> Buy a diplexer, and connect it as shown in the linked article:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/articles/Mode-J/
>>>>
>>>> I also tilt both of my Yagis so they're 45* to the boom, which makes
>>>> them 90* to each other.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I lose some signal on terrestrial use, but ti helped cut the
>>>> coupling, and desense, down quite a bit.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Jim KQ6EA
>>>>
>>>> On 01/19/2014 06:56 PM, Gabriel - EA6VQ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a coupling problem in my station when trying to work FO-29.
>>>>> My 2m
>>>>> signal is completely blocking the 435 MHz downlink, and so I can't
>>>>> hear my signal off the satellite. I guess it must be something
>>>>> related to the distance between the two yagis. (I use the
>>>>> terrestrial horizontal yagis you can see at
>>>>> http://www.dxmaps.com/jm19hn.html ). With mode-B satellites there is
>>>>> no problem. I have tried it with two different 435 receivers, and
>>>>> it's exactly the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone has had this problem o have an idea of the possible reason?
>>>>> And what
>>>>> is more important, of some way to solve it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any possible help.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73. Gabriel - EA6VQ
>>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>>> Web-Site: HTTP://www.dxmaps.com
>>>>> VQLog 3.1 (build 78): HTTP://www.vqlog.com
>>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:52:36 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: status/rant
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Michael,
I also miss the HEO days, and have no interest in juggling multiple
radios and antennas in the dark in the rain, simply to scream my
callsign and gridsquare into the pileup and consider it an achievement
if I can copy someone else doing the same. I don't suppose we will ever
see another HEO hamsat, unless someone with real money gets bitten by
the bug. I assure you, if I had a spare 10 megabux laying around, I'd
pay for a launch... but I don't and so I can't.
I like to ragchew. Even on HF, I like to talk to people around the
world, to find out what type of car they drive, what their dog is
called, what is their favourite beer, etc. I've been ridiculed for
saying that I want to ragchew rather than simply exchange grids.
Now, some people actually like waving a broomstick beam around, and some
people are thrilled to have worked X-hundred gridsquares with people who
they know nothing about. More power to them! But for me, these things
are not exciting nor fulfilling. I want to sit in the comfort of my
shack, and ragchew. And I certainly think I deserve as much
consideration as the grid-chaser with the handheld beam.
Fortunately, we seem to be getting more SSB capable equipment going
aloft, with more useable bandwidth. So I'm even considering the
expenditure of some hard-earned gelt to put a satellite station on the
air. As soon as I am comfortable spending the money.
As for hamfest demos, I have no problem with a show of operating with
absolute basic gear, like the HTs and handheld beams. It seems to me,
however, that a demo of a PRACTICAL minimalist station might also be in
order. (I don't consider all that juggling to be practical, other than
for proving a point.) A modest multiband radio of some sort, a small,
affordable rotator perhaps controlled via bluetooth, from an android
phone or tablet (which also does orbit prediction/tracking), and an
antenna designed for satellite work, but with less than 22 elements on V
and 40 on U. Some of this equipment may still be awaiting development.
And if we are never again going to get a HEO satellite in space with a
visible window of several hours, then we need a lot of LEOs instead, so
I can switch from bird to bird and continue ragchewing!
I'll probably get slagged off for making some of these remarks, so I may
as well get hung for a sheep as for a lamb: I don't know why people
refer to certain satellites as amateur satellites when all they do is
send telemetry in the ham band(s). As far as I'm concerned, if you
can't have a QSO through it, it isn't an amateur satellite. If you
don't require a ham license to use it, then it isn't one of ours!
Regards to all,
On 01/26/2014 07:32 PM, Michael wrote:
> I think we should be striving for something more than trying to show
> everyone how "easy" it is to operate sats. Again, if you actually
> enjoy juggling an antenna , HT and a speaker mic with only two hands
> then more power to you. I think that's too much like work and would
> much rather operate from the comfort of my shack but even if I were
> going to operate out on my back deck, I'd rather do it with a small
> table and a laptop and a tripod with a small motorized tracking system
> controlling the antenna.
--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:28:01 -0500
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: G5400B calibration problems
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Tim; I believe there are two pots each for the azimuth and elevation
meter adjustments. One pair are for the internal meters, the other pair
for 0-5V to be used by the TrakBox (or similar) ADC. Make sure you
turned the correct pair. However first I would make sure the internal
7806 voltage regulator is producing 6 volts and does not oscillate or
have noise on it. Dig out a DVM and scope to make sure. Those
regulators, if not properly bypassed with a capacitor may oscillate.
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:57:40 -0500
From: Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Suggestions for "I want a HEO"
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Let your fingers do the walking. Good list etiquette states before asking a
question, that a search of the archives be done.
In this case, I wouldn't touch this one with a large fiberglass pole.
We're not taking about buying a pack of ciggies here.. This stuff costs
millions..
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> As if you and Clayton are doing anything other than sitting on your high
> horses judging other people for daring to ask a question or offer a
> differing point of view..... Talk about whining....And no I don't let
> people like you get me down.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
>
> On 1/26/2014 3:44 PM, Lizeth Norman wrote:
>
>> Clayton,
>> That implies action. Whiny type shout loud, do little.
>> Don't let the idiots get you down.
>> Norm
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx
>> >wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to propose some alternatives to the whiney "I want a HEO" BB
>>> emails:
>>>
>>> - Write up your vision for how a HEO linear transponder might be
>>> constructed and launched. AMSAT-NA is always looking for articles.
>>>
>>> - Share with us your plan for obtaining the funds necessary to launch
>>> a HEO linear transponder
>>>
>>> - Publish a paper with your technical design for a next generation HEO
>>>
>>> - Designate part of your estate towards the launch funds of a HEO
>>>
>>> - Participate in the various AMSAT-related in-person forums worldwide
>>> discussing this issue
>>>
>>> - Contribute your engineering expertise to current goals so that
>>> future technologies can be discovered through one of the many ongoing
>>> satellite projects throughout the world
>>>
>>> The best part about the above suggestions is all but one require no
>>> money, perfect for most hams who want to complain but never open a
>>> wallet when there is a need. It's also worth noting that you don't
>>> have to be a member of an organization to contribute, though it is
>>> often beneficial in my humble opinion.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Clayton
>>> W5PFG
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 00:28:25 +0600
From: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: status
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well there is a Falcon heavy demo launch that has almost no payload on
it...Robert WB5MZO and likely S2USN
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> On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:49 AM, "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
>
> Hi John, W0JAB
>
> At the moment there is no hope to see again a satellite like AO40
>
> If we are like in the future probably we will see P3E, a satellite
> similar to OSCAR-13 built by AMSAT-DL
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Becker" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:01 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] status
>
>
>> Whats the status of a replacement for the likes of AO 40?
>>
>> I know I ask this from time to time but never seem to see anything.
>>
>> I for one would very much like to see this type the a boat load
>> of small FM only type while there is still a place to park one.
>>
>> John, W0JAB
>>
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:40:58 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Packet RTL SDR / USRP
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Hello
Is anyone using
1. RTL SDR with doppler correction
2. USRP SDR with doppler correction
to recieve ISS ? AX25 packet
Andrew VK4TEC
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:14:08 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbitron Question
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Hello
Orbitron
Can you make a custom list of sats to track ?
WX and HAM are spread across two groups
Can get them to who up together
- Andrew VK4TEC -
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:25:51 +0530
From: "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Orbitron Question
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Yes, Dear Andrew,
Create a new 'Note pad' file in the TLE folder and name it whatever way you
want. Copy TLE's from different files (groups) of interest and choice and
paste in the new file.
73 de
Quoting Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> Hello
>
> Orbitron
>
> Can you make a custom list of sats to track ?
>
> WX and HAM are spread across two groups
>
> Can get them to who up together
>
> - Andrew VK4TEC -
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Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]
Secretary & Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(Office)91-80-25082598/25082054/25082192
Mobile: 91-9880 341 456
E-mail ID: wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx
vu2wmy_mani@xxxxx.xxx
isrohams@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:22:52 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Orbitron Question
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Perfect thanks will do
Vk4tec.txt I will call it
Sent from my iPhone
> On 27 Jan 2014, at 5:55 pm, "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
>
> Yes, Dear Andrew,
> Create a new 'Note pad' file in the TLE folder and name it whatever way
you want. Copy TLE's from different files (groups) of interest and choice
and paste in the new file.
>
> 73 de
>
>
> Quoting Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Orbitron
>>
>> Can you make a custom list of sats to track ?
>>
>> WX and HAM are spread across two groups
>>
>> Can get them to who up together
>>
>> - Andrew VK4TEC -
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]
> Secretary & Station-In-Charge
> Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
> ISRO Satellite Centre
> HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
> Phone:(Office)91-80-25082598/25082054/25082192
> Mobile: 91-9880 341 456
> E-mail ID: wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx
> vu2wmy_mani@xxxxx.xxx
> isrohams@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:31:44 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Orbitron Question
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But will that update ?
Sent from my iPhone
> On 27 Jan 2014, at 5:55 pm, "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
>
> Yes, Dear Andrew,
> Create a new 'Note pad' file in the TLE folder and name it whatever way
you want. Copy TLE's from different files (groups) of interest and choice
and paste in the new file.
>
> 73 de
>
>
> Quoting Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Orbitron
>>
>> Can you make a custom list of sats to track ?
>>
>> WX and HAM are spread across two groups
>>
>> Can get them to who up together
>>
>> - Andrew VK4TEC -
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>
>
> Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]
> Secretary & Station-In-Charge
> Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
> ISRO Satellite Centre
> HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
> Phone:(Office)91-80-25082598/25082054/25082192
> Mobile: 91-9880 341 456
> E-mail ID: wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx
> vu2wmy_mani@xxxxx.xxx
> isrohams@xxxxx.xxx
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 00:47:10 -0800
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ITAR Fun
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In light of the bi-monthly HEO discussions that pop up here I figured I'd
share some info that many non-US aerospace industry people may not realize.
The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) is a set of laws that
those of us in the United States must adhere to, even as volunteers for
AMSAT. I just finished up yet another refresher course from my employer so
this is fresh on the mind.
This email is my own and I don't claim to be 100% to the book accurate,
this is my understanding of it.
Some notes on what it means:
- *Negligence is NOT a waiver for a violation*
- just because you didn't realize you violated it, doesn't mean you
won't/can't be prosecuted
- *Simply inquiring about ITAR related subjects can be a violation*
- If I called a company in Germany about their product I'd like to
use on Fox-1 but need a small modification to the design and suggest the
modification to their product so it works with my design... I could have
violated ITAR.
*Individual Criminal Violation*
- Up to $1,000,000 fine *per violation*, 10 years in prison, or both.
*Individual Civil Violation*
- Up to $500,000 fine *per violation*
Those are the big hitters so-to-speak. They are also some of the main
reasons we cannot team up with other AMSAT groups to work on projects
together. Plain and simple. Heck, if I was conversing with some of the
Funcube volunteers and helped them with one of their designs via email,
even simple schematic review to help them I could be violating ITAR. So
those of us here volunteering for Fox-1 do our best to operate with these
rules in place and watch the other groups do their own thing.
*Non- ITAR....Launches*
I work in the launch industry and have quickly realized that the commercial
rocket industry is filled with companies who's satellites cost upwards of
$0.5 to $1 billion each.* To them, a $100 million launch is pocket money as
long as its reliability is high*. Until we see reusable rockets this will
be the playing field in which every AMSAT group in the world has to abide
by. Therefore, cubesats are the ticket into orbit*. On the notion of demo
launches for new rockets such as ones obtained my AMSAT for AO-40... Launch
integrators no longer have trouble finding payloads for them*. There are
more than enough university small sats and cubesats willing to dish out
$100,000+ if not a few million for a ride. Why would an integrator pass up
the opportunity to reclaim a few million $ on the test launch with people
throwing money at them?!
Again all thoughts are my own and would like to state that just because
some people express opinions on this list doesn't mean they are the
opinions/direction of AMSAT. Several posts on here lately have generalized
one or two peoples responses as the direction of AMSAT-NA which is very
much not the case.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 04:14:07 -0500
From: Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "<,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE distiller / generator
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Hi all!
What tools are available to work with TLE files? I'm looking for a tool
that takes multiple files with TLE sets in them, and outputs at least one
file with a custom set of TLE's.
Norm n3ykf
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:19:49 +0530
From: "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Orbitron Question
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No, your favorite file (group) needs to be updated manually, every time.
Quoting Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> But will that update ??
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 27 Jan 2014, at 5:55 pm, "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx>
> wrote:
> ?
>
>> Yes, Dear Andrew,
>> Create a new 'Note pad' file in the TLE folder and name it whatever way
>> you want. Copy TLE's from different files (groups) of interest and
>> choice and paste in the new file.
>>
>> 73 de
>>
>> Quoting Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Orbitron
>>>
>>> Can you make a custom list of sats to track ?
>>>
>>> WX and HAM are spread across two groups
>>>
>>> Can get them to who up together
>>>
>>> - Andrew VK4TEC -
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>>
>> ?
>> Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]
>> Secretary & Station-In-Charge
>> Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 21:37:33 +1100
From: Joe <gjmagee@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ancient History
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On 26-Jan-14 5:44 AM, Jim Sanford wrote:
> All:
>
> Back in the early days of PACSATs, I ran SatLink, and somehow acquired
> the source code -- which is printed in a stack of paper several inches
> high.
>
> I would like to electronically archive, and before spending hours at
> the scanner, wonder if anyone knows where it may be published? Google
> searches lead me to commercial programs, and I've not found at the
> amsat web site either.
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Jim
> wb4gcs@xxxxx.xxx
>
>
Check here http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftpsoft.html The source code is
available as zip file.
I'm assuming this is the same programme Satlink
73
Joe
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