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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Drifty LinearTransponder Oscillators (Paul Stoetzer)
   2. Re: antenna help (Nick Pugh K5QXJ)
   3. Re: Drifty LinearTransponder Oscillators (Rich/wa4bue)
   4. SWR on Satellite antennas (Peter Wilson)
   5. Re: SWR on Satellite antennas (i8cvs)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:31:58 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Drifty LinearTransponder Oscillators
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According to Wouter, PA3WEG, who designed the AO-73 transponder, PLL
frequency generation is possible now within the power budget of a 1U
CubeSat, but was not when the FUNcube's transponder was designed.

See his post from last month:

http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2013-December/047815.html

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> AO7 and FO29 seem to be very stable.  VO52 was my first experience with a
> drifty transponder oscillators. I read some explanations on the BB.
>
> What design element needs to be changed to stabilize the linear transponders
> oscillators on the new CUBESATS.
>
> Are the beacons crystal controlled?
>
> Rich
> W4BUE
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:55:50 -0600
From: "Nick Pugh K5QXJ" <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Robert Bruninga'" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: antenna help
Message-ID: <012101cf0eed$fc487a00$f4d96e00$@xxx>
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Hi Bob

By comparing the hot sun to cold sky you can figure out the Ratio of antenna
gain to system noise. My system noise is undetermined I suspect that my
antenna are under performing by about 5 db and I would like to compare it to
somebody else antenna. The solar flux numbers are available at both UHF and
VHF





nick



From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@xxxx.xxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:10 AM
To: Nick Pugh K5QXJ
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] antenna help



Is it not possible to simply point at the sun and observe the sun noise as a
way to baseline your station performance?

I dont remember if this can work on VHF or UHF, but it works for microwave.
Maybe some experts know the answer...
bob, wb4apr



On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Nick Pugh K5QXJ <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

I am trying to check out my antennas. I am looking for someone on the list
that has the ability to measure the incoming receive level of signal on a
high gain antenna at UHF/VHF . If you have that ability like a flex 5000 uv
or similar please contact me off list









Thanks



nick

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 12:15:38 -0500
From: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Drifty LinearTransponder Oscillators
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Yes.

I remember reading that, now.

Are the bacons more stable?

Rich W4BUE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Drifty LinearTransponder Oscillators


> According to Wouter, PA3WEG, who designed the AO-73 transponder, PLL
> frequency generation is possible now within the power budget of a 1U
> CubeSat, but was not when the FUNcube's transponder was designed.
>



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 18:08:26 -0000
From: "Peter Wilson" <protest@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SWR on Satellite antennas
Message-ID: <000001cf0ef8$1fff7f70$5ffe7e50$@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi All,



Another question from a newbie.



I noticed the SWR on Tx whilst operating AO-07 mode b was 2:1 on 432.125Mhz.
(A bit high for me...)



However, on VO-52 and AO-73, the SWR is 1:1, which is of course due to the
fact that they are 3Mhz away from Ao-07.

The UK band plan for satellite operation is 435Mhz - 438Mhz and my antenna
is virtually flat throughout that range.

So, I have two questions.



1) Should I be worried about damaging my rig (IC-9100) with the 2:1 SWR on
AO-07?



2) Will future satellites be in the 435 to 438Mhz range?



Thanks



Peter

G8KEK



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 20:35:06 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Peter Wilson" <protest@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SWR on Satellite antennas
Message-ID: <006401cf0f04$3bf48480$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Wilson" <protest@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:08 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SWR on Satellite antennas

> Hi All,
>
< snip>
>
> So, I have two questions.
>
> 1) Should I be worried about damaging my rig (IC-9100) with the 2:1 SWR
> on AO-07 ?

NO damaging to your rig will occur with a 2:1 SWR

>
> 2) Will future satellites be in the 435 to 438Mhz range?

YES

> Thanks

> Peter
>
> G8KEK
>
73" de i8CVS Domenico



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